Any info on this place? Anyone do any mongering while here? I've done Nogales, just looking at expanding my mongering horizons.

I was down there several years ago. The brothel bars are located a few blocks in on the right and burried back in a few blocks. Took a cab in. They have little rooms in the back for service. The few I went into had average lookers, not great. Got a great BBBJ for $20.

I'm located in the S.V area. Where are you?

I live in Phoenix, but travel around the state quite a bit.

Used to live in Phoenix. How is the Van Buren street scene these days? And the strip club scene? Are table dances still $5 in most places?

The fuzz is really cracking down these days and it's one of those too much to lose - so little too gain things. Plus, although Nogales is 2 1/2 hours away, the difference in quality between Van Buren and Nogales is great, it's worth it...

Is there any MP's here?

How about driving directions from Phoenix? Gracias.

Roberto - Take I-10 east till exit 331 which is the U.S. Route 191 south. That will take you right into Douglas. Exit 331 is after the town of Benson and before Wilcox. The border is clearly mark once you get into Douglas.

Is this about a 3 hour trip? Are there all night hotels? Any regular bars? Where should I park?

From the time you leave I-10 at Benson, It's about a 1 1/2 hour drive. If your coming from Phoenix, Its about 3 1/2 hour drive, maybe a bit more. Its about a 35-45 minute drive East of Bisbee.

There is a pretty cool Historic Hotel in Douglas called the Gadsen Hotel. Its the landmark for Douglas. There is a Motel 6 as you come into town ( at the North end) about 3/12 miles from the border.

There are several public lots real close to the Border, you can also park in some of the adjoining streets. I suggest you use the lots, as they are cheap, well lighted and patrolled.

I'm not sure about the regular hotels around Aqua Prieta, but I'm sure there must be some OK ones near the town center.

There are a few regular bars in Douglas, and there are also plenty of them in Mexico as you cross. There are "working girls" in most of the bars in Mexico that are close to the border, but the quality is pretty poor. I have hears a few of the nightclubs/discos have some pretty part-time pros working out of them, but I no first hand knowledge.

You can catch lots of cabs as you first cross the border, cab ride to El Paraiso should be under $4.00. El Paraiso, Flamingo and the 5-10 or all on the same block/street.

OG

What time does the border close? Also, any decent hotels in Agua Prieta?

The border at AP is open 24/7. I don't know from 1st hand knowledge about "good" hotels. There are plenty of bad ones though. There is a tourist bureau about a block or 2 from the border. I imagine they would have some info.

OG

Explorer8939 - There are four or five nice hotels with security in AP. Just drive around on the main street and you will come across one. As for the border parking in Douglas, some are close after 10 or so. Your car will be stuck there till morning.

Was down last night with a buddy for dinner and stopped by El Paraiso again. About ten ladies at around 10pm. Much lower quality than Nogo. Got a drink, waited a few minutes, and then left shortly after. Didn't see anyone worth the trouble. There are about four other bars in this area. There is one right across El Paraiso with a couple of ladies standing in front.

There is a Disco on the first left after crossing the border. It is about 100 yards in. Lots of cars there last night.

Let me ask a practical question: is it *practical* to park your car somewhere near the border, walk across and book a night in a hotel in AP somewhere near the bars?

I am not familiar with AP but I personally would not like my truck to be unattended. If I am going to be somewhere overnight my truck must be right outside the door. This includes my own home.

There is a city-owned parking lot (cheap) across the street from the border entrance at AP. I thinks its about $5 for 24 hours, but if I remember it closes at 4 or 5 in the morning and opens again at 8:00am
I'm sure there are other places to safely park your car overnight within walking distance to the border. The border crossing is not at all like TJ or even Nogales, more like Mexicali's.

I don't think there are any decent hotels where the El Paraiso/Flamingo bars are at, the official zona tolerencia, but I have seen some OK ones downtown (near the border crossing). There are a lot of bars/discos/nightclubs in the downtown area and many of them have girls that work them (unofficial of course).

If you go, the this board need a report on the strip club mentioned here before (Taurus ?? ). I've been meaning to head down there and check it out, but never got the time.

OG

One of the thing I've noticed about AP, is that all the INS/Border/Customs cars, all have metal grills covering all the glass everywhere on the car, from the headlights to even the front windsheilds.

It seems that AP is full of "chuckers" guys who just love to chuck rocks and other objects at the US INS cars and trucks from the Mexico side. Its quite a "sport" down there, and some of them are quite good!! Although they only go after the INS cars, it might be good to park outside of "chucking distance" from the border.

OG

I have been to AP twice and always just parked on the street and walked on over. I don't see any advantages to staying in AP because there is no wait at the border and the BoysTown is a five-minute cab ride away.

Just stay in Douglas or Bisbee or even Sierra Vista or Tombstone.

I don't think I am making myself clear, my object is to spend the night in AP, but I don't want to drive my car over the border. So, the plan is to park the car in a safe place on the US side, and then walk (?) over to AP, and find a hotel near the chicas.

Explorer, I understood your question. My answer remains the same - why are you planning on staying in AP? I never saw a girl there, either in the semi-Boystown area or downtown, that I would want a TLN with. I also never saw a hotel that I would want to stay in. The Boystown is in the middle of a residential area and I think there is one little hotel down the street but it looked more like a shooting gallery than a place to stay.

You can get near the chicas in five minutes from the border crossing, and back again in five minutes, any time of the day. I don't think staying in a fleabag joint on the other side of the fence is worth it, just to save 5 minutes time.

I too have been to AP several times. I see Explorer point. Targets of opportunity are not just in the Boystown, most all the bars/discos downtown have girls working there now. I would prefer to get my own room in a more decent and secure room and bring the girl there instead of using the sweatboxes at El Paraiso and the other clubs.

I thinks there are several 24 hour pay lots within walking distance to the border. And I've seen,what looks to be, several half-way decent hotels in downtown AP, but I don't remember their names.

A Taxi from a Hotel downtown to boystown and back, with a chica is only a couple of dollars, but the comfort factor iwould be priceless.

OG

OK, I will settle for a reasonable hotel in downtown AP. In fact, I am devolving into staying in a hotel in Douglas, parking my car in the city lot for a few hours, and just taking a cab from the border to wherever.

Of course, since I would be on a weeknight, I am getting the idea that AP is dead during the week.

I've stayed in the Historic Gadsen Hotel in Douglas which might be called within "walking distance" of the border. (If you don't mind walking 1.5-2 miles)

I have been to AP only once during the week and, yes, it was pretty dead. At least in the boystown. The bars and discos, though were quite lively and there are working girls in some of these bars.

You also might want to check out the strip-club, I believe it's called "Taurus".

We need to get some info on AP besides what is available in boystown, which is not really a whole lot.

OG

I'm finally going to do my AP trip report. Hey, it's only been 4 months, I've been busy!

En route to Nogales, AZ from Denver last week, I stopped to check out Agua Prieta. I was originally going to stay 2 nights but due to bad planning I left a day late and was only able to stay 1 night. This was a bad mistake on my part.

I arrived in Douglas, AZ around noon last Friday (July 2nd). Just before the border crossing after passing the Checker Auto, take a left at the public parking sign and there's a secure lot for $10 per 24 hours. I then hit the duty free store for some cheap smokes and crossed on foot.

I chose to stay at a Hotel called La Hacienda (400 pesos) it's walking distance from the border, it had nice clean rooms, good a/c with a bar/rest. Immediately after crossing you'll see calle 1 that runs parallel to the border...go left (east) about 3 blocks until you see Av 6, take a right and you're there.

After a shower I took off on foot to exchange some money, buy beer, and water etc for my fridge at the hotel. Now, it was about 1:30PM and I decided to take a cab to "the zona" which is located around calle 3 and av 15. This is a rundown part of town that has unpaved roads and looks like a warehouse district. Cabs are scarce in this city and all cost the same...$5 or 50 pesos. If you find a good one get his phone number or you'll spend forever trying to find one. Unable to find a cab I made friends with a guy delivering water and gave him 50 pesos for taking me there. It was now a little after 2PM.

I first went to Flamingos...very dead as expected...there was one young hottie talking to a local borracho and a fat chick snorting some drug. The bartender offered to bring me some more chicas, but I decided to move on. I then walked into Paraiso...no-one was there but I sat down at the bar anyways and ordered a bottle of water and talked with the fat but nice bartender for awhile. She then asked if I was looking for a chica and if I'd like to meet some. What the hell I thought...and said sure. About 10 minutes later a real hottie around 24 years old, 5'8", slender, childless, wearing only some skimpy shorts and a tube top with great tits came and sat down next to me...excellent I thought! Then, a strange thing happened...another one arrived who was old, fat and uglier than a mud fence. I mean this broad was disgusting. I'm normally extremely polite when in Latin America but after giving her many subtle hints that I wanted to talk to the other one, I finally asked her why she was here? I thought at first maybe she was there to provide translation but as I'm fluent in Spanish obviously this was not the case. After turning her down for buying her a drink, giving her a cigarette etc I finally told her I would give her a cigarette if she would leave. She agreed and I was able to finally talk to my hottie. She claimed to have just arrived from Chihuahua, was new to the biz and was there to earn $$ for her sick mother...blah blah. I then proceeded to talk to her for a half hour or so to build a little chemistry. I then told her I would return later to see her (not my intention) and she suggested now...I agreed and quickly negotiated 400 pesos for a full hour, bbbj, and 2 times. As always, it's very important to make everything very clear upfront. We then proceeded to her room and it was a great GFE experience once she was comfortable…at first she didn’t seem to know what to do so I just made out with her for awhile until things became mutual.

Turns out, at both Flamingo and Paraiso there are many gals that live in rented rooms on premises...so, if you arrive during the day and they ask if want to see chicas...say yes and tell them what you want as the chicas are in their rooms sleeping or whatever. (They’re more than happy to wake up) Also, in any of these places you’ll be lucky to find a rusty sink with running water. I’d advise bringing a small bottle of Purel and a couple of paper towels or some handy wipes if you want to clean up. All the gals I encountered were very clean.

I then returned to the main bar around 4PM and there were a few gals and a really petite hottie...I talked to her for a bit but decided to wander across the street to 5to patio bar. To my surprise there were 8 gals…mostly younger with 2 hotties and 2 do-able. However, I decided to find a cab and return later. I returned to Flamingo and had them call me a cab.

After talking to the cab guy for a bit I asked him about a massage place...he said there were none but that he knew a gal that was a little chubby but very pretty that cost $20 for an hour. I said let's go and after a quick phone call he took me to some run down hotel. I knocked on her door and she was very nice looking, friendly with great breasts. I only confirmed that the price was 200 pesos for a full hour and didn't inquire about extras. We then both fully disrobed and she proceeded to give me a very sensual massage while having a great conversation. When it was time to roll me over she proceeded to give me a great bbbj followed by her on top for a long time and I finally finished with doggie. I gave her 250 pesos and tried to get her number but she said she was returning to Chihuahua the next day. I had her call my taxi guy to return me to my hotel.

After resting up, eating and showering I had the hotel call me a cab and had him take me to Club Taurus. This is a local’s tittie bar located in a decent part of town (calle 3 av 21). I arrived about 9PM and the place was dead, just 8 guys and a fat chick sitting at the bar. I had a beer (Tecate only, 200 pesos, 12 oz bottle) and then called my new taxi guy to take me to "the zona". BTW, my Mobile Phone (Nextel) worked perfectly off the US system.

I arrived and went into Flamingo at about 9:45 and there was a great full blown ranchera band playing, about 20+ gals and some local guys...no gringos. Half of the gals were old fat pathetic ugly hags and the other half were do-able with 4 being real hotties. Beer in all 3 of these clubs in the Zona is the same...250 for a can of Tecate or a 7 oz bottle. They also have quarts. (Next time I’m bringing my own good Mexican beer and paying them a serving fee, I hate Tecate cans) The price for the chicas is 350 for a 7 oz bottle. If the waiter is friendly it's smart to give him a good tip on the first round as to use him for chica advise later on. After a couple of cans of Tecate, I was about to leave and in walks a mid 30's gal with an older lady. This gal was beautiful and defiantly girlfriend/ wife material. I asked the waiter and he had no idea who she was. I then took off to scout the other bars knowing I would return.

I then went to Paraiso...there were about 8 chicas...3 hotties and 5 hags. My gal from earlier was there and all made up...she looked really hot. Also, the hag that wouldn’t leave, from before was there all made up also but you can't polish a turd. It's beyond me why some of these gals are there.

After talking to my gal for a bit I left to check out el Patio Club. To my surprise there were about 20 gals, some local guys and no gringos. About 6 of these were hotties and the majority were do-able...no hags. I sat down at the bar and in walks this gal that was a solid 9...wow I thought. I talked to her while she was cutting up cucumbers making some food thing. I confirmed that she worked there, that 400 pesos would buy me a full hour with bbbj and 2 times at the nearby motel and told her I would return.

I then returned to Flamingo and after a beer I had the waiter ask my future wife to join me and we proceeded to talk and drink a few beers. She supposedly didn't work there and was from Hermosillo and was there because she had some cousin the band. Of course I said that a taxi brought me here and that I had no clue to what kind of place it was. After about 3 beers I asked her if she wanted to go to the nearby motel to relax...she said yes...I about died and off we went. The motel wanted 100 pesos for an hour...but seeing that they weren't exactly busy I told him 100 for 3 hours and he agreed. I then proceeded to have an incredible GFE experience, 2 rounds etc...Then, I returned with her to the bar almost 2 hours later. I then handed her a 500 peso note…she looked surprised and said what for? Thinking fast I told her I wanted to buy her something special but since there were no stores nearby, she could find something later. Finally she agreed and took the $$. I almost made arrangements to have her be my novia etc…but my head above my shoulders did the thinking and I told her I'd see her the next day knowing I would never return. I value my bachelorhood and the variety of life.

I then called my taxi guy and returned to Taurus at 1:30 or so. The dancers were ok but the place was pretty dead and the local gals hanging out were a little scary. I was told that FS is available for 500 pesos upstairs with the dancers. The local gals you have to take-out. I drank 2 beers and I was feeling a little spent after my previous gal so I didn't pursue anything. I then went to a place about a block away called Iguanas. This was a very nice normal club and my taxi guy told me that some semi-pros work there and if a gal likes you can have an all-nighter for 500 pesos. I will return in pursuit of this. However, having one more place to go I drank a beer and called my taxi to take me to a new night-club on av 6 y calle 5 called Antiguas. They asked for a 50 peso cover...I said no but they let me enter anyways. There were some hot gals but at 200 pesos for a private dance I chose to drink my beer and return to my hotel. Customs were real assholes the next day when crossing the border but such is life.

All in all, I thought Agua Prieta was fine and safe. Plenty of chicas, no gringos, good prices and only 13 hours from Denver. In the last 2.5 years I've spent 4 months in Colombia and 8 months in Central America and as I haven't been down south for awhile I was suffering from withdrawal. This was just what the doctor ordered. Also, this is a normal town and no touts or tourists.

What's a "tout"?

Street people trying to sell you things/services.

I just returned from AP. The drive is 3 hours from Phoenix. I parked on the street in Douglas for free. I stayed at Hotel Hacienda for about $34 American. The exchange rate is very good these days and I would encourage everybody to use Pesos. I basically spent the night partying at Paraiso, Flamingo, and 5th Patio. I banged three girls last night. I payed $30 each and 2 out of the 3 were real all stars both in the looks and performance category. There were alot of hot girls at 5th Patio last night. Probably at least 20 and nearly all were very hot. I am gonna keep exploring Agua Prieta. It is really a cool little town.

Thanks for the updates Majordude and Roberto. I may head down for the first time this weekend. I have always been concerned about selection and quality though. So I guess I'll see.

Should be interesting, but $30 pussy it just too tempting to pass up. That is cheaper than Thailand and most other countries.

AP First Impressions:

A mini trip report will be forthcoming.

AP is about 270 miles round trip from my home in north Tucson. The trip takes a little over two hours. The Phoenicians should add 160 to 200 miles to that 270 so figure around 430 to 470 miles round trip for Phoenix residents. Keep in mind that if you go a portion of the trip is on two lane roads. Once you get off of I-10 at Benson, you go through Benson, St. David, Tombstone, Bisbee and then finally Douglas. There are speed reductions through all these small towns. I left around 4:30 in the afternoon and was often caught at 45 or 50 mph behind slow moving vehicles before I could pass. Coming back there was no traffic and I made much better time.

This is a big difference from the 60-80 miles and hour to hour and 15 minute trip that Nogales is from my house. It is a lot easier and a shorter trip to Nogales. That being said, at this point after my first trip, I give Agua Prieta “half a thumbs up.”

The brothel bars are ranked in the following order.

1. 5to Patio Bar (by far)
2. Flamingo Club (a distant second)
3. El Paraiso (a complete bomb and waste of time)

I wish Nogales had a setup like this with rooms attached directly to the bar. I didn’t get a chance to check out Taurus or the other strip club in town. That will have to wait for another trip. 5to Patio Bar has a decent selection, but quite a few “gravity challenged” women as well. Out of the 15 ladies I saw there, two or three were stunners and had terrific bodies. 4-6 were slightly overweight, but still doable or cute. The rest were ugly and fat.

Flamingo didn’t have any in shape women. There was one 19 year-old I met there. She was cute, but slightly overweight. I turned her down after she refused the BBBJ while we chatted in the bar.

El Paraiso had about 3-5 women working. They were all overweight and not very attractive. There were hardly any customers there.

I highly recommend changing your money into pesos before crossing the border. If you pay in dollars they are going to quote you at a 10-1 rate. 400 pesos or $40 dollars. If you pay in pesos you can save $5.00.

I also checked out two discos close to the border. They were called Metropolis and Panchanga (I think). Metropolis was packed and full of people, but they were mostly Douglas residents in their late teens who were there to drink since they weren’t 21 yet. I didn’t notice any of the freelancer action some others have mentioned previously. Panchanga had all of five customers inside.

There was a parking lot directly to the left of the border crossing. But it closed at 11pm. The cost was $1 per hour or $5 for the day. I parked on the street right by that lot and didn’t have any problems.

I did the same lady twice at 5to Patio Bar. She was a hot 22 year-old from Sinaloa. I should have done her blond friend as well. The blond was 20, in good shape and the second best looking woman in the bar.

Thanks for the update. It seems AP varies from weekend to weekend as different gals arrive from other parts of MX to make a little cash.

As long as there's enough stunners for me I'm happy.

Soon, I'll check out Las Palomas again and report back as I can drive it in 9 hours.

Agua Prieta I have not been to in over 10 yrs, I think the arrival of girls in that part of the universe are there so they can make the run to the usa. At least thats what I can remember of it. But for a great breakfast on your way down or coming back, try the copper queen hotel in Bisbee. Agua Prieta is the gateway to the usa now. If I remember the name there was a helluva steakhouse just east of the hacienda hotel, I will post it.

Are there in existence maps or guides to the bars. I have read this thread but the text directions scare me. I'd really like to make a road trip some time soon.

Rabidkang

It is a small town. No need for maps. There are a few strip clubs downtown right around the border. In addition to that, there are 3 whorehouses if you keep walking South on Avenida 2. There is a luxury apartment complex full of whores on the South end of town. I think it is called San Carlos?? or something.

Recently visited Esqueda, a very small town south of Agua Prieta. It is so small that it has only one motel and one cantina next to the motel. The cantina had a sign outside that said "Ladies Bar". In Mexico that means that the ladies are available. They had only two young cuties there that were dancing and drinking with the customers.

One of the cuties looked a lot like Uma Thurman:
thin and blonde but with smaller chi chis. I negotiated an all nighter with her for $70. She turned out to be one of the hottest fucks I ever had in my life, and I have lost count of all the pussy I have had in my 50 years on this planet!

She was so horney that she begged me to fuck her in the ass! I tried, but she was too tight! Good thing her pussy was very tight also!

I have her cell phone number and I took a some pictures of her. Not sure when I will feel like sharing either of these on this board. I am feeling greedy and want to keep her "for myself"!

Keep watching the Mexico board for info on AP and surrounding area. I may post a trip report, with photos, in the near future.

I almost forgot! While in Esqueda, I met a young pimp named Saul Lucero (sounds a lot like Lucifer, doesn't it!). He speaks excellent English and said he would be glad to help mongers with their "hobby". He said he is usually in AP, but was in Esqueda because his wife lives there. His cell phone number in Mexico is: 0446331072155.

Photos submitted by Brewmeisterbro

Photos: Uma 01 02 03 04 05

I am tentatively planning a mid-week mongering trip for next week. I will leave either Tuesday or Wednesday for an overnight stay. I work weekends so that's the only time I have free.

Plan on calling Saul to see if he can help arrange a date with Uma. This time I won't forget my digital camera.

If anyone else can make it, I wouldn't mind a trip buddy.

I hit AP Tuesday night. Very slow in the bars but 5th Patio Bar was the best of the bunch. Flamengo was filled with old, fat and ugly putas. Most of them had checkmarks in all three categories! Paraiso was a waste of time, two girls were in there. The dance club at the front of the compound was somewhat crowded, though.

Catocony, did you fuck any of the women in AP, or were you just an "observer" like me? I agree with you in that 5th Patio Bar is the best AP has in terms of quality.

I had to change the plans I gave in the above entry and go the weekend of Cinco De Mayo. I will be spending the weekend in Esqueda and other places South of there. I prefer mid-week but "shit happens".

Of course I fucked a chica! Never got her name or anything but she's one of the 5th Patio squad.

I had been wanting to check out Agua Prieta for quite some time now. So Saturday at 5pm I headed out. Sure it was a late start but the road itch needed scratching. I had decided that if I ever went I would take the back roads rather than the interstate. So from El Paso I headed to Columbus on NM 9 and continued to Animas NM until I hit highway 80.

I was lucky, at first the sun was too high then clouds set in and blocked the sun from my eyes. Funny thing about the desert, it gets dark fast. Squished bugs disappear at night.

When I was finally in AP not knowing anything at all except for some small posts on other boards I did the best thing, just walk down the main avenida by the border. I walked down about 10 blocks or so until the avenida turned from paved to dirt. Nice. When I passed each intersection I looked both ways for anything that looked like the place to be. I found none.

Sure I saw some clubs but they were just regular bars. There were 2 discos, Metropolis and Pachangas. Both dead but they said it didn’t get started until about 11 or 11:30. Keep in mind AP is an hour behind El Paso so I am still on my time.

So what do I do now? Time to hit find a taxi. Outside of Metropolis was a line of taxis eager to serve. I approached them and asked what they recommended. Right away they say, “Escandalos”. I took them up on the offer and we headed off. The driver filled me in on the scene. Not much. Not within walking distance of the border there are only 5 bars in the area one of which was a gay bar, I passed on that one. He gave me the loop of the area. I have never been to Nuevo Laredo boys town but that was the impression I got minus the wall.

Imagine a square of 4 streets with the middle being empty with the exception of an abandoned police hut and a walled off cellular tower. He dropped me off at Escandalos as promised and I paid 60 pesos rather than the 5 bucks offered.

Escandalos, nice. Small but nice. 5 dollar cover and 2 bucks for a soda. Table dances are 10 bucks and 20 for privates. 5 minutes is the length of time explained to me. There were about 10 ladies of shift. Most weren’t my type but I would not turn any one of them down for some fun. It goes without saying; they ranged from tall to short dark to fake blonde. Lots of tangas and high heels. Very low pressure but the waiters will stop by your table and as if you want a lady for a drink, dance or private. I exchanged emails with one waiter and this really peaked the ladies interests. Especially when I mentioned LOJ and what I do with it. I didn’t take advantage of this as I had 3 other bars to check out.

So I head over to Paraiso club Cabaret. A few ladies but no dancing. They seemed to be there hustling drinks and who knows what. A couple were fairly cute but why bother with all the hotties at Escandalos. Just my luck I sit at the bar between 2 types of people you don’t want to sit next to in a bar in Mexico. A drunk that speaks English and a homo who thinks you are there for him. Why wasn’t he at the only homo bar in AP, I don’t know. I was only approached by one upper middle aged over weight dyed blonde lady. She hits me up for a drink. NO! She hits me up for a smoke. NO! Then she points to a door and motions her hand in front of the mouth while blowing obscene kisses. Definitely NOT!!! I left shortly there after scared half out of my wits.

I then head off to Flamingos in the other side of the square diagonal from Paraiso. A brightly lit club with plenty of cute ladies and some less than attractive ones thrown in the mix. They don’t dance on stage; instead you can dance with them in a sunken dance floor. I didn’t get the charge for that but then again I didn’t see money changing hands. I did find out that drinks are 5 bucks for the ladies as I bought 2 for a cutie with braces and an ass to die for. I asked for the low down and found out there were rooms in the back for a 60 buck fee. I told her I wasn’t interested. I was tapped out from the night before and I was really only there in AP scouting around. Maybe she thought I was playing hardball because she mentioned she hadn’t done a private since Thursday because she has to charge 60. Oh well, back to Escandalos.

I go to the 5th patio, I just didn’t like the way it looked. Maybe I missed out on something but I think I made the better choice.

Back at Escandalos things picked up and the girls were getting crazy. Totally nude dancing, hot table dances and lots of flirting. I didn’t go for any action, I guess I was there to get out of town and check things out. It seems the best is at Escandalos.

When it was time to leave I go outside and ask for a cabbie. Instead they sent me a security guard who drove me back to the border. He told me of another club on the other side of town called Tauro. By this time it was late and I was looking ahead to a long drive back home.

It was weird to cross back into the U.S. without walking over a bridge. I asked the customs guys where the line was and they showed me. They asked the usual but much more casual as over here in El Paso. They were actually conversive.

After a good nights sleep and breakfast at Denny’s I head up highway 80 but this time for I-10. I wasn’t in the mood for the bumpy back roads lower speed limits in New Mexico. The trip back was about 4 hours but that included a soda and piss break.

Did I enjoy AP? Yes. Will I go back? Not any time soon. Do I recommend AP? Sure if you want a change of routine and want to get out of town, go for it. Just don’t forget to report of any changes.

Rabidkangaroo

You totally missed out on Cupulus and 5th Patio. Lots of hot women.

I knew I should have poked my head into 5th Patio. I did not hear of Cupulus.

Greetings:

My take on Agua Prieta was that it just wasn't worth the effort. Flamingowas only and totally gordas, or old and tired ones.
5thPatio didn't get started until 10pm on a Fri night, and when it did the women were as hard as American women. They did have some nice looking ones, but,theyre as hard as Kerosene. Paraiso had 2. 1 old girl who was just wanting someone to talk to and 1youngerbut overweight nice and sweet girl. I drank a river of their Tecate and staggered back to Motel 6 in Douglas.
No reason to go to Agua Prieta for me.
By the way, the strip club Escandalos. I did stop in there about 1130pm. I was pretty lit by then, but, even though it was Friday night and late enough for some action, not one single person was in there, except for managers and women. They quoted $20 to get in and I just turned and left. My experience there was about 30 seconds.

All told, I was in Agua Prieta on a Friday (July 22, 2005) from 3pm until about midnight.

I did enjoy the conversations I had, and I got to see a cop stop and get out of his pickup (1 of 4 in the truck) and make out with one of the girls in front of 5th patio. He felt her up and nearly fucked her right there on the street. Those folks I was sitting with across the street viewed this with contempt for him and the police in general. We were sitting outside the bar on the curb.
No place for me(Agua Prieta)but suit yourself
Regards,
-Wmax2

Has anybody successfully mongered during the afternoon hours in the 3 whorehouses?

Roberto

whorehouses in AP? I must know more.

Paraiso, 5th Patio, Flamingo are all whorehouses with bars attached. They are in the zona roja.

Are they worth checking out? AZ

IMHO, AP is better than Nogales. The chicas can be ugly and the facilities are certainly not Rio quality, but they are cheap and the service isn't bad.

Let's put it this way - you can spend $30-50 and get some pussy with a smile and a beer or two, vs going to Nogi and spending a lot more money and getting less.

Thanks. Sounds like a deal to me. I think I will try it out. Hey Cat, seems like you are all over the place. Where do you live?

DC. But, I've hit 24 countries over the past 10 years or so, for work and pleasure.

Wow, you get around. So is it true there are 7 girls to every guy in DC? AZ

Ap is a great option on Friday or Saturday nights.

AZ,

Never heard that one before. Since I haven't done an American woman since 1995, I don't really keep track these days. I don't do any clubbing or anything in DC and these days only go into the city if I have a business meeting or to show someone from out of town the sites.

Since 1995? are you pulling my leg? cant say I can blame you. AZ

Nothing but liars, thieves and scum sucking republicans in Washington DC these days.

Even if 7 to 1, hey are either fat welfare mommas or worthless bitches who practice some sick distortion of Christianity.

Hot4ass2 - Actually, I was asking about pussy, not your political views, but thanks anyway. Its nice to know though there are caring, loving liberals out there to take care of the world. AZ

Well, considering that DC is about 93% Democrat, the Maryland suburbs a solid 60% and even the Virginia suburbs where I live over 50% Democrat, I would tend to argue with that fairly fucking stupid generalization. But then again, I do live in the highest per-capita income county in the USA, with the highest percentage of population with bachelors and graduate degrees, so I'll be sure to step gingerly over the welfare types and Jesus freaks as I go about my daily business.

I may be in AP Tues-Wed and I'm wondering if I should be able to find any 8+ chicas? If so, where will I have the best chance? What should FS cost for high quality chica in AP?

Although I know Agua Prieta like the back of my hand, I have a question: Is there any daytime mongering in the zona? Are the bars even open in the zona during the day? I have never mongered before 8 pm so I have no idea.

I may be taking a bordertown tour in mid-May and I have the same questions as the last two posters: Is there daytime and midweek action in A.P.?

I'm looking for a taste of Mexicali, Tecate, A.P. and Juarez. Not very interested in Nogie considering what it has become and I was there several times in the good old days.

Any other suggestions for small treasures along the AZ and NM borders?

If you have the time stop in at Algadones and San Luis.

You can try Sonyta and Rocky Point too.

what is the action like in Rocky Point? AZ

Checkout the Puerto Penasco thread as that is the Mexican name for Rocky Point. To sum it up there is 1 brothel, about 3 to 5 strip clubs, streetwalkers, and semi-pro freelance girls.

I recommend talking with the taxi drivers as some of them are pimps for the hookers. Also, at the border town Sonyta there is a brothel(Mocambo) as well. I really enjoy Rocky Point but not because it is a mongering destination. I like the beach, bars, sand, etc.

When you say "brothel" are you referring to an old fashioned brothel or as they say in Mexico, Casa de Citas, or the AB model...hooker bar with attached hotel?

RE: "Brothels"... Never visited the one mentioned in Sonoyta. Went to the legal brothel in Rocky Point a few years ago. It is called the Crystal Palace.

It was a big disappointment when I was there. Only one or two women and both fat, old and ugly.

I guess the Mexicans would call it a "Casa de Cita". It is legal to buy pussy there. But what is the big deal about doing something legal.
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I made my virgin expedition to Agua Prieta about a week ago. Parked in the WalMart lot three blocks from the pedestrian crossing then walked into Mexico. It was near sunset, but still light enough to enjoy the scenery, so I decided to walk to the zone. However, my directions were all screwed up and I went up Calle 2 to Avenida 26 before heading south to Calle 6 then back to the border. About 2/3 of this walk was after dark, but I never felt any danger. Never saw a cab either until nearing the border, so basically 4 to 5 miles of walking for nothing except exercise, but this may have worn out my Levitra too.

The cabbies had absolutely no idea where 5th Patio was or where Taurus was, but they did know Flamingo and we agreed on $5 for the ride there. Taxi seemed to take a very round about route, so I do not exactly what barriers a walker would encounter. Anyway, I was in the zona by 8:30 PM on a Saturday night and absolutely nothing was happening. BTW: The correct address is Calle 15 at Avenida 2.

By this time, I desperately needed to take a dump and Flamingo's did not have any toilet stalls with a door or tissue. So I got some napkins at the bar and found a shitter that had not been pissed all over and dropped my load. When I went to flush, there was no water. When I went to wash my hands, there was no faucet on the sink. Why don't these people appreciate hygiene?

The first Flamingo's chica that zoned in on me had three tits! Two where they are supposed to be and a third much larger tit was centered below them. On second thought, it might have been her belly and her navel must have been an outty. Needless to say, I was not going to waste my jizm on this cow. I walked over to 5th patio and there was one ugly whore and a half decent looking uniformed security lady who did not seem to be part of the program. Inside was one couple drinking at the bar. I scoped out the cabelleros room and found the stall had a door and a toilet actually flushed. At least the place had a bit more class.

Walked across the street to what I assume was Pariaso. Ordered a beer from a bartender who spoke very good English and asked when the place livens up and he told me around midnight. Shit, what am I supposed to do for the next three hours? There was one so-so chica dressed for the business who sat on a stool three feet from me for a couple minute, but left after saying a few words to the bartender. I went to check out the bathroom in this place and was repelled by the smell while still ten feet from the entrance. It was certainly more disgusting than Flamingos. Another SCARY UGLY chica called me over as was leaving, but one good look was all it took to make me run for the door.

Not much luck so far, so I decided to walk south to Calle 21 where my notes said that Taurus would be. Instead I came upon a big tent revival on a side street with some preacher saying each verse in English, then a translator repeating it in Spanish. Did not make any effort to figure out which ministry was scamming the Mexicans. With no Taurus in sight, I turned around and headed back to 5th Patio for a beer and still nothing happening there. Left and walked toward the other bar in the zone that I think was named Bohemia.

However, I only got about halfway there when a door in the wall popped open and a slender lady in a slinky dress introduced herself as Maria and assured me that she does everything. She did not look half bad, although obviously in her late 30's whereas I really wanted early 20's. However, the $40 price was right and everything else I had seen so far was much poorer quality, so I gave her a roll. The gate keeper wanted $10 rental for the room and I did not bother to barter that charge. Anyway, we proceeded to get naked and her body disappointed as the clothes disappeared. Dipped a finger in her very wet and loose snatch and it came out smelling clean, but I did not try the taste test. Pounded her in several positions, but her pussy was not tight enough to get it done, so I pressed my cock against her anus and asked if I could go there. At first she said it was another 100, so I gave up that idea until she clarified 100 pesos. Hell, that is just USD $10, and I certainly could not pass up that offer. Fortunately, her backdoor was tight enough to extract my milk. When finished, all she had for cleanup was a faucet that spilled on the floor, some powder soap and some toilet paper, but no towels. Hygeine seems like a really abstract concept in AP.

After leaving, I took a peek in Bohemia bar where nothing was happening, then went to Scandellos. Other posts on this board told me to expect something like the Nogales strip club hustle and that certainly what I found. The quality of girls in here, although better than any other AP club that I visited, was way below the best that Nogales has to offer. Bought one USD $10 ficha drink, but she did not thrill me enough for the private routine. Hung out for about thirty minutes before leaving.

Final stop was back to Flamingos where another middle aged lady about four feet tall and chubby latched on to me. Her English was as bad as my Spanish, but I bought her a beer just to be nice. It was about midnight when I took a cab back to the border. The customs agent seemed especially interested about why I was down there and all I told him was checking out the night life and spending the weekend exploring the Southeast corner of my home state.

Also saw one other club very close to the border called "Continental Ladies Bar". I don't know the whole story about this place, but when I stuck my head in around midnight, it looked more like a regular night club than a brothel.

Damages for the evening:
$5 -- cab ride to the zona
$10 -- room rental
$40 -- Maria
$10 -- Anal upgrade
$5 -- Scandellos cover
$10 -- Scanellos ficha drink
$20 -- my beer and a couple beers for chicas
$5 -- cab ride to the border

At $105 for the entire evening, it is certainly a lot cheaper than I ever get by in Nogales, but the quality of the pussy was so mediocre that I cannot imagine making a return trip anytime soon. Also cannot recall seeing any other gringo in the zona. Walmart did not mess with my car, so the fringe of their lot may be your best bet for parking.

P.S. Scandello's also has a decent cabellero room with toilets that really flush.

I don't know why you had such a bad time. I always have great luck especially at 5th Patio late night.
Sounds like you might be better off just going to La Conga in Nogales depending on where you live if you are looking for a straight lay.

By the way, there is a high-end whorehouse in AP that I posted on too. The girls are high quality.

Roberto, It was not so much a bad time as it was bad quality. Cannot complain too much about $60 for a three holer, but I certainly did not see anything remotely resembling a stunner anywhere around the zona.

I don't know if any of us who have written about AP ever talked about a lot about stunners. It's been 18 months since I was last in AP, and over 3 years since I was in Nogie. Nogie has better looking women, it's just very expensive to fuck them. You pay US prices and get US services, but you're in Mexico and sitting in a telephone booth (now without a door) while doing so.

AP is quite cheap and very quiet and laid back. The working girls are older and uglier than in Nogie, but much cheaper and provide better service.

and there are still the occassional lookers to be found. it is just a bit more hit or miss than nogales.

I have not been to AP in so long. Can't wait to get back.

If you happen upon a stunner there, consider it a large bonus. Otherwise, enjoy the good service at economical prices and be happy you're not in Nogie trying to get jacked off in a telephone booth while five waiters stand around interupting every two minutes and asking for their tip.

I have often found hotties and gfe in AP. I guess I am just a lucky guy. When I don't see what I like, I make them go and bring out more girls.

Roberto, maybe its because you are such a sexy BITCH!

I'll vouch for that. lololololol

funny comment

I can always count on the old Nogales crew. We have that common bond.

Roberto,
Sorry, I missed your post on the "high end brothel" in AP. Are you talking about the No-Tell Motel out on the highway that has the domes?
I think it is called "Los Arcos"?

I know that Los Arcos has a lot hookers available but I have never tried them.

Roberto,
Sorry, I got the name of the motel de paso wrong. It is "Las Cupulas".

I am planning a bachelor party for a buddy in AP. Probably will take place in May. Has anyone been down recently and is the scene basically the same?

Also, are there any open stripclubs these days in addition to the regular brothels?

I just made a quick trip down to AP last Friday and I have decided to post this abreviated report.

To answer the above question, Roberto: Yes,in a nut-shell, the scene is basically the same.

I drove down from Tucson at about 7pm Friday. From my house on the far side of Tucson, it took me about 2 hrs; 20 minutes to get to AP. Driving there and back it cost me about $50 in gas.

I did not walk accross, but drove my fairly nice new SUV. I was a little nervous but no one fucked with it all. I made sure I parked in well lit areas. I activated the alarm and put the "Club" on the wheel. Of course, I also have Mexican insurance.

I cruised past the disco clubs near the border, but they did not seem to have much of a crowd at 10PM so I headed over to Tauros TD club.

I killed some time by calling my brother in Wisconsin on my Sprint phone. One nice thing about being close to the border is that the US cell phones still work.

While talking to my brother, I notice a few chicas walking out of the club. Obviously dancers so I said "Hola!" and they said "Hola" back.

I was the only guy in the club except for another local sipping a beer. The club was dead and I basically had all the girls to myself!

I started talking to one of the girls. I bought her a chica drink and a beer for myself.

Her name is Gabby and she is a dead ringer for Salma Hayek. I told her so in Spanish and she said "Who's Salma Hayek?" I thought that was pretty funny but then I realized that Salma has made damn few movies in Spanish.

Gabby and I played some pool to kill some time. She was pretty damn good at it too!

A group of young Mexicans wandered in about midnight so the DJ/owner cranked up the music and the chicas started dancing. I decided to try to give a couple of local girls a call and come back later. Actually, I never returned that night....which may have been a mistake as I think I would have loved fucking Gabby.

I was never able to get through on the cell phone numbers I had for the local girls so I headed over to the Zona Rosa.

You AP regulars know the area. It is just south of the central area of the city near a cemetery and baseball stadium. There are a few cantinas with connecting whorehouses surrounding a big open field. All the roads are dirt in that area.
That kind of pissed me off as it got dust all over nice pretty truck!

I parked my truck in a well lit area and went over to La Bohemia Club. There was a tall blonde girl standing in front and she addressed me in English with an American accent!!

She said her name was Rebecca and she just came accross from Douglas a little earlier that evening. She was dessed pretty conservatively in tight jeans and a tank top. She had a nice hard body and I told her so. She told me: "Well, it's yours, if you want it!". I thanked her but I said I wanted to look around first.

I was shocked to find an American hooker in Mexico. Have any of you guys reading this had any such encounters? It through me for a loop and was totally disconcerting. Now that I am back home though, I keep thinking about Rebecca and wishing I had given her a spin!!

I went inside La Bohemia but quickly exited as there were only two Mexican guys in there and no chicas at all.

I headed accross the square on foot to The Flamingo Club. It was pretty busy with a large crowd Mexicans drinking buckets of beer sitting with some chicas. There were also some unaccompanied chicas sitting around the bar.

Most of the chicas were not my type. Either too heafty or too old or ugly or all the above! One chica sitting at a table with an older Mexican dude caught my eye.

Since she was sitting and drinking with this guy, I figured she was his. However, she soon noticed me looking at her and started flirting with me with her eyes. I bought a beer and lifted it in her direction as a toast. Within a couple of minutes she was sitting next to me at the bar.

She said her name was Gracia and she was from Juarez. She looked to be about 25 with beautiful eyes, black hair and a nice pair of chi chis. I bought her a couple of those expensive little chica beers and another or two for myself and we started talking about leaving.

She told me the bar fine was $100 pesos and it was $500 pesos for her. I asked her if this was for an hour and she said yes.

We headed to her room which was connected to the bar. That's the whorehouse part I was talking about.

After about 20 minutes of covered BJ and covered FS there was the god damned fucking proverbial knock on the door! I was pissed and I told her so. I hadn't even had time enough to pop my load! I told her I did not like lying chicas.

I was not going to pay any more money so we got dressed and headed back to the bar. She said she wanted to meet me after the bar closed at 3AM
and I said "Maybe" but I never went back.

It was about 0130 or 0200 so the figured the night was young and headed over to the new club called Scandalos.

If you guys don't know it, it is on the other side of La Bohemia and it is the only place that charges a cover charge as it is the only traditional TD place in AP. I think it is owned by the some people that own similar type clubs in other parts of Mexico by the same name.

Very few of the staff speak any English. I told one guy at the door that he should learn some as : "It is the language of money!".

I asked the guy at the door if it was really worth my $50 pesos cover charge to go inside. He told me that they had seven beautiful chicas dancing there that night and it was definitely worth it.

Well, I paid the $50 pesos and I had a good time but I guess I have a different concept of beauty as I did not find any of the chicas that good looking. I did find out that the privados cost $200 pesos.

Not sure how much time you get for that price. I am sure it is the traditional three songs.

I am not sure if you can fuck the girls in the privado, as I used to do in Hermosillo before they outlawed it. I did not give the privados a try the night I was there.

There was one young Mexican dude celebrating his birthday that night and it was really fun to watch him. They were playing some really great Mexican dance music with a really great beat and he was dancing up a storm.

Finally, the DJ got him up on the stage and announced that it was his birthday and blindfolded him in a chair for his "Birthday Party".

Two chicas came out and started teasing him with there bodies. They poured beer all over him and stripped him completely naked. Unfortunately, the chicas never got naked! He was loving it all and just kept screaming and dancing.

At this point, I decided to go look for a place to get a nice Sonoran style hot dog at 2:30 AM before I hit the road back to Tucson. I found a place near the little park with the gazebo in the center of town. I ordered two dogs and a Pepsi. There was a big after hours crowd ordering hot dogs. It was interesting just sitting back and watching the crowd while I ate.

The dogs were O.K. but nothing compared to Gordo's Hot Dogs in Hermosillo. Those are the best I ever had in my life!

I stopped at a couple of Circle K's along the highway back to Tucson to load up on English Toffee cappucino. That sugar and caffiene laden mix kept me awake!! It was a very easy drive back as I was nearly the only car on the highway.

By the time I got to Tucson, the sun was coming up in the East. All and all, not a bad little road trip.

If any other Hombres ever want to make a similar trip with me, let me know.

I love AP because it is so quiet and in such a remote area.

as for the american girls in mex...yes i see alot of them in mexicali. usually they are runnin from the law. or they are deported as some of you have seen with the ins crackdowns peps who have been in the usa for all their lives and speak english as well as any are now stuck in mexico. but yes to answer your question...yes..

nice write up

laters
kiryuz

A neighbor of mine who goes to AP every other day said the town was devoid of gringos, especially older ones (but not the younger ones) after the gun battle in Canannea that day! Even some of the bars were subdued. He was told people were worried that the turf battle between the cartels would spill over into AP.

I came back from Hermosillo last Friday. Two days after the rolling gun battle in Cananea. I took the highway that leads northwest from Hermosillo through the Sierra Madre mountains. I passed through Moctezuma and Nacozari on the way to Fronteras to see my novia who lives there. I did not pass through any of the towns where the action occurred. I only like that kind of action in the movies.

Before leaving Hermosillo, I read the stories in El Imparcial about the gun battles. I new it was big but it really didn't really hit me until I returned to Tucson and read it in an English language paper. Funny how it scared me more in English than in Spanish, eventhough I understood the Spanish in the news article I read.

There were many more checkpoints on the highway between Hermosillo and the border than usual. As far as I know, all the check points were legit and manned by bonifide Mexican Army Regulars.

I can't be sure of that however, since I know that the drug lords are now setting up there own highway check points and donning Army fatigue uniforms and sporting automatic weapons just like the regulars.

It is getting scary down there. I may even stay in Tucson for a few more days before I return to Hermosillo!

Roberto,
I made a trip back to AP about two weeks ago and after an uneventful evening in Zona Rosa at La Bohemia, Flamingo and Scandalos I decided to drive over to the local "Motel De Paso" called Las Cupalas mentioned above.

At 0330, it was very late or very early. It all depends on your attitude. Just like every thing in life!

I asked the dude at the gate if there were any chicas. He laughed and said yes. He got on a phone for a second and then came back and told me "Numero once".

Seconds later, I pulled my truck into the car port for apartment numbered 11. There were two chicas available at that hour.

I chose the skinnier of the two, a chica of about twenty by the name of Dulce. She had a very beautiful face and a very fine delicate body with about a C cup. Almost like a model. It was $1,000 pesos per hour.

After about 30 minutes of CFS she refused to continue fucking. I had not yet shot my load. I was not happy. But what could I do?

It was a better deal than the AP Zona Rosa (Flamingo, La Bohemia and especially Scandalos)
but the service was no where near as good as I get in Hermosillo.

I have decided to stay away from AP for now and just continue my trips to Hermosillo.

I would have complained to the guy at the gate. She might get in trouble.

What kind of action will I find in AP during a week day? Is the zona open?

Yes, of course it is open. It is pretty slow in most of the zona bars. Some of them only have a couple of customers and very ugly women. It seemed like Flamingo had the biggest crowd and, therefore, more chicas.

Scandalos is a typical TD club. My last trip was on a Thursday night. Except that, if you want to spend hundreds of dollars they do have a room where you can fuck the dancers. You cannot fuck or get a BJ in the privados I was told.

One of the women was very American looking. She is a busty blonde with a very big but shapely ass. She almost always wears the same outfit. It is an American flag made into a bikini.

I asked her to sit at my table. I bought her a couple of chica drinks and we started to get cosy. I was feeling her up and we were kissing. I was really wanting to fuck her hard!

I had a privado with her for about $20. She got naked and I was fingering her pussy but I got no BJ. It was the traditional fucking 3 songs for $20. I have really outgrown that shit!

I was told by one of the waiters that speaks good English that I could fuck the dancers for $200. I asked this chica about that and she said that she charges $300 per hour because she is better than the other girls!!

I about flipped out! I told her to forget it! I then told her about my experiences in Hermosillo, Mazatlan and other places in Mexico.
She found it hard to believe that pussy was that cheap.

She said she was from Sonora. I told her that if she expects to make that kind of money she needs to stay right where she is, near the border. I told her she won't make that kind of serious money most other places in her country.

Roberto, I had decided that the only way to have a really good time in AP is to stay away from the Zona.

If I don't have any success with local independent hookers I just drive on to other places in Sonora where I have friends. The Zona and even Las Cupalas is really a rip off in my opinion. I would rather go to a massage parlor in Hermosillo and pay $100/hr for a beautiful young affectionate hooker.

I have only been on the weekends but I would not call the zona expensive. Nogales is expensive. I found AP to be cheap, you just have to be patient and different girls keep coming along. They get snatched up quickly.

You and I must have completely different set of standards for women. I did not find most of the women in the zona very attractive. Add to this the short-time fucky-sucky with the knock on the door and I don't see any value in it.

Not really sure how it compares to Nogales as I use just drive through Nogie on my way to Hermosillo. I may decide to check out Nogie some night. However, I will stay away from the TD clubs near the border as I remember them to be a BIG RIPOFF!

I wouldn't say there are alot of hot girls but I can find 3-5 good ones in a night. That is plenty for me. I haven't been rushed in the zona.

I am thinking of going down on a weeknight because that is my only opportunity. Are the brothels open Mon-Thurs? I am assuming they are and the selection may be light. I guess the other and better option is to go the other way to TJ. Just a bit longer drive.

I spent last Thursday and Friday night in AP. It's not as busy as I remember it before but pretty much the same.

There are the border area night clubs that I stayed away from and the zona. In the zona El Pariso is closed, didn't see much at the Flamingo and did just fine at 5to Patio, good selection and the rooms are ok with basic showers.

I consulted 5 taxistas about other places, brothels mentioned above with no luck.

There is a new tabledance called guau-guau. It is located at Calle 3 and panamerican avenue (from the por of entry keeo going straight forward 3 blocks)I did not went in but hope to report soon.

SAT-10-JAN-2009:

Had an event in Sierra Vista that afternoon, so decided to make the 45 mile journey down to Douglas. Parked at Walmart and walked six blocks through border gate then got US $5 taxi to La Zona.

The only surviving brothels are Flamingos and Fifth Patio. The selection at both was awful.

Fifth Patio had ONE fairly attractive lady doing a bit of ballroom dancing with customers, but she was not wearing the hooker outfit that all the Gorditas had and did not act as if she was part of the program. I did not see a single light in the bedrooms beside the club.

Flamingos had about a dozen girls that were slightly smaller, but also rather elderly and with large bellys. Maria offered me a full night no holes barred deal that was $50 for her and $20 for the room. Somewhere along the interview Maria told me her 107 year old mother and her son lived in Tucson. I suppose that would make Maria sixty something. Only one other gringo showed up in the zone that evening.

I gave up around 12:30 AM and walked back to the border without finding anything worth a fuck. I do not know if there is any hope for an AP revival in warmer months, but it was certainly a lost cause this visit.

(Message edited by Hot4ass2 on January 18, 2009)

Hi all! Great forum with a lot of information!
I am passing through AP on a Friday night and I am looking for
The prettiest girls at a TD or motel. Looks like things
Are a little quiet in AP right now. Any recommendations?

Here is a link to a gallery of the girls from guau guau which is just acros the border, as you cross go straight 3 or 4 blocks and turn right:
http://elperiodicodeap.com.mx/guauguauhtml/galeria.html

I find it hard to imagine they have all those girls. It must be every girl in town. I like that Navidad pic.