This is to establish a forum for questions on NL street girls. I'll kick it off.

Ok. I've been with a little less than 20 SG's, some multiple times, so I'm hardly a beginner. Nevertheless I'm pretty perplexed by the whole SG scene. Here are some of my questions:

(a) What is the financial arrangement for SGs? Are all working for pimps? I know they put in hellacious hours--I was talking last night to one of my favorite SGs, Ana de DF who hangs out on the south side of 3rd Av., halfway down the hill (see my post on street designations--3rd is the uphill-downhill street just beyond 2nd Av., the street with Tamyko and Marabu). She said she works 9 hours a night every night but Sunday, from 7pm to 4am. Who sets these hours? And does each pimp have his own little colony of girls (as I suspect from the fact that girls in each little gaggle tend to follow the same pricelist, and these pricelists vary from gaggle to gaggle--e.g., Ana's gaggle charges $21 for a swive sin ropa, whereas the gaggle just below her, same side of the street, asks $30 for that).

(b) Why have I never scored a GFE with a SG? I score them all the time in clubs, with full on kissing, etc.? [Story: Last night, kind of as an experiment but also because I had really blown my load with a Tamyko chica and wasn't up for another session, I went around to a lot of the street chicas with a proposition. They'd ask me if I wanted fucky-sucky and I told them no I was pretty spent; but that I had a proposition for them worth whatever the price of a regular desnuda swive. What? They ask and I'd laugh and sort of fake-blush and say I'm too embarassed to tell them. I'd offer them gum as a distraction and then they'd ask me some more. I then would reach in my pocket and bring out one of those $10 pocket rocket type electromagnetic minimassagers that you can get at Brookstone and turn it on--you know what this is? And I'd hold it against their wrists and they'd kind of go "eek!" but then take it from me and show it to the others. Do you know how to use it? I'd say... and I'd whisper to one of them that if it is held against a chica's panocha she will start to come again and again--and of course they'd giggle. Well, I said, my proposition is for you to go in the room with me and we'll give it a try. Well, their reactions were uniformly negative--nearly all of them tried to convince me that they could indeed make me come again (probably true, but I denied it); some said flat out that they didn't want to come (I'd suspected this from most of my prior SG encounters, because I've only had a very few SGs who really seemed to me to be coming). Some said they were afraid to try it; one said she really liked to come from a mouth, not a machine, although when I offered mine she seemed scandalized and said no no, only her bf (I don't know if I would have followed thru if she said yes--I go down on club girls all the time but I don't think I've ever gone down on a SG, it just doesn't seem safe.). Anyway I was kind of amazed at how UNIFORMLY I struck out, even if I did provide a certain level of entertainment. And by contrast, the club girls often go for the Brookstone thingie--I feel like the Johnny Appleseed of BT, I've given so many of them away as gifts. But as for the SGs, my sense is that they are very narrow-band providers compared to the club girls--they'll fuck and suck, but not much else. So what's going on? Do they all have bfs for whom they're saving the GFE? Or are the pimps those bfs? Or is it that their service volume is so high that they don't want to do anything exotic, or even come? Or am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to cajole GFE's with the SG's that I'm just not picking up on?

(c) I notice the SG's basically LOOK different--they're shorter, more mestiza or indigena looking, and they're from a wider range of places than the club girls, who tend to be from Monterrey, or somewhere fairly close by (including NL itself), or (for some reason) Acapulco. I think I've met only a single SG who said she was from Monterrey. What's up with all this? I assume it means they are really from poor backgrounds. I wonder how they get to NL? Are they recruited? This gives me the shudders, frankly.

Anyway, anyone who knows something beyond my really superficial observations--I'd really like to hear about it. I'm really curious about these girls.

Balam;

Just returned from my quarterly visit to NL and couldn't agree with you more. The level of GFE available from the club girls is amazing. Particulary Papaguyos, Tamyko and 1,2,3. And it is not related to how much you pay. Club girl sessions can be had for $50 no problem, and there's rarely any knock on the door pressure. Amazingly, I've found that 2 out of three club girls will virtualy demand that you chupa de panocha. I think the difference is these girls really enjoy the drinking and by the time you head for the room they are as drunk/horny as you are. I'll also point out that there's none of the bogus tequila shots and coronita's filled with aqua that is so prevelant in TJ. When the NL girls match you beer for beer and shot for shot they are really drinking.

As for long hours, I sometimes go to boystown in the early afternoon and many of the SG doors are open and the girls ready to work. In the daytime you can easily negotiate SG session's for $13.

Hey Perorojo,

Just curious--were you ever able to negotiate something more than standard coger/chupar from the SGs in the daytime?

Good theory about GFE's and drinking in the clubs... I always ask what they're drinking and try to notice if they seem a bit smashed. I also think it has a lot to do with when you are there, and I'm still learning. I think the crappiest time of all to be there is Saturday night, because the girls are all feeling pressure to make some bucks, plus there are lots of our brethren roaming around who, well, whom I wouldn't want to FOLLOW with the same chica! I have been coming early on thursdays (about 8:30) and that's been working pretty well--you see the girls coming in directly off the bus from Monterrey for their weekend in BT, and I often find that they actually can be pretty horny, especially after a drink; AND, you're not pulling sloppy seconds that way. Also, I was their last TUESDAY and it was terrific... I went into Tamyko at 8:30 and there were maybe 3 clients and 10-15 chicas, some very nice ones. And I hit Pgo at about 11:00, and, to my surprise, there was a very high chica:cliente ratio, and the atmosphere was very nice just for mingling and talking (I had more or less had my fill by then but I must have met 3 or 4 I really would like to do sessions with)--way better, oddly enough, from what I'd been used to on thursdays. What are your thoughts on days/times?

Also, I agree that the knock at Pgo depends on traffic, but in my experience, at Tamyko and Marabu it seems pretty regular regardless of traffic.

do either of you guys or anyone else know if the strip club Egyptias in NL is still open?
I always found that to be a nice way to start off the night before to BT....last time I'd say about 4 months ago i was up there and egyptias was close?
did it should down for good?
and have any of y'all been to colorados? very classy place don't ya think?

I've seen billboards for egyptias but I've never checked out the strip clubs outside b.t...

I'd suggest checking both of those out.

Balam, Ruffryder;

I've never had a great interest in attempting to negotiate GFE with a SG whose goal is to screw 15 mexicans a day at $15 ea.
The way i see it, if your investment is only $15, just climb on top and plow away. If it happens it happens, if it doesn't, your out less then the price of one table dance in Houston or San Antonio.
As you suggest, the place for GFE is with the part timers who take the bus from Monterray, Tampico, and Matamoros. By the way, Reynosa seems to have even more of these "college student" types. And there is none of the "reynas" who seem to be constantly increasing in number. I don't think it would be far off to estimate that 1/3 of all the girls in NL BT are TV's.

I've not gone to the strip clubs you've mentioned, mostly because I assume it would further increase the cost of the cab trip from the standard $10. Also BT has 2 strip joints, one of which has lap dancing etc.

IMHO the place to warm up for BT is dancing with the amatuers in Nueva Herradura, see the earlier posts for more info.

Perorojo, I'd like very much to hear more about Reynosa and the 'college student' types there (or are you saying that Reynosa chicas come up to NL?)

You're right of course about all the reynas in BT--but don't forget the princesas you meet a bit too often in the clubs!

Back to the street girls, point well taken on GFE's, but I'm still perplexed--why would a chica who takes 15 bones a day BALK at anything slightly non-vanilla (like the clit vibrator I alluded to in my post)?

what's Nueva Herradura...i normally get a room on the NL side, drive to the strip club then go back to th hotel and get a cab to BT.

I'll probably be there this thur/fri

Ruffryder the Nueva Herradura is a club downtown
with working girls. See the previous posts for
directions

any of y'all going to be down in NL this thur/fri or fri/sat?