Help! Am going to be in Fort Davis next week, and need info on the scene (if any) in Ojinaga (across from Presidio). Checked Redsnake and couldn't find anything.

Hello friend, hard to believe somebody actually posted on Presidio/Ojinaga. One of my favortie getaways and starting point for the best summer I have had in years. I sent you an e-mail with some not too valuable info, just some ramblings...

Hope you have a good trip. It's isolated out there. Hell, that's why I go...

Your e-mail arrived several days after I left, unfortunately (I'm an over-the-road trucker). The Fort Davis destination was an unusual one, and the likelihood of my being that close to Ojinaga again are slim to none.

Anyway, arrived Sunday afternoon, and dropped my trailer in Ft. Davis and headed "bobtail" for the border. Got stopped about 10 miles south of Marfa by a Deputy and a Border Patrol car -- made a pretty exciting tableau for passersby. I refused to allow a search, but allowed them to have the dog sniff to his heart's content. After about 30 minutes, I guess they were satisfied, and became a little friendlier; neither the Deputy nor the Border Patrol officer had spent any significant amount of time in Ojinaga (they claimed), so could tell me little of it. But they did say the US 67 corridor is a major one for passage of all sorts of contraband (including large amounts of cash moving south). So, anyone heading that way can expect pretty aggressive law enforcement between Marfa and the border.

On arriving - finally - in Ojinaga, I arrived at the crossing almost before realizing it. Found a fellow working on a nearby building who gave me some info -- then I parked and walked across.

As you cross the border, you can see a radio tower off to the left -- looks a long way off at first, but it turns out to be no more than a half mile away. My informant said this is the location of the local "boystown" -- but that I might try "La Fiesta" on the way, as Boystown is pretty "seedy".

As it was still daylight, I decided to hoof it, but asked for directions to La Fiesta -- it turns out to be right on the way to Boystown and about 2/3 of the way there (at the base of a slight hill, the top of which is Boystown).

Both La Fiesta and the bars in Boystown are about the same. Both were dead late on a Sunday afternoon, but considerably more activity (according to girls) during the weekend. Apparently, this is a destination from towns like Midland and Odessa. Boystown is a collection of buildings all well, well past their heyday; in fact, most of Boystown is actually ruins of old bars. But a few survive. Sunday afternoon there was only one open with girls looking the least bit attractive -- I have no idea what its name is, but it is toward the center of the area.

Engaged the services of a fairly attractive lady for a half hour (including room) for $40 (which did not include oral service, which she did not want to perform). I returned via La Fiesta and that was more ($50 for the senorita and $13 for room), and worth less (this time, anyway) -- nicer building tho.

The room in Boystown was better cooled than the one in La Fiesta, tho -- neither was good. The room at La Fiesta was otherwise nicer, and reasonably nice; that in Boystown was crude, but functional (no visible animal life).

My informant in Presidio said there are also some girls that work the main street, but I didn't really check that out. By the time I finished with the constabulary and had a couple relationships, I had to head back for Ft. Davis. The next day it was off to El Paso to find a load, but not before a much more enjoyable time in Juarez Monday afternoon.

A final word about los peligros de Ojinaga. I had the feeling the walk between the bridge and Boystown was not real safe after dark, but I made it (tho I did take a detour out the back and through a residential area, after a car of locals passed me on the road, then pulled over to the side ahead of me a ways -- probably they just wanted to make sure I would be safe -- but being alone, I elected discretion).

Thanks Uncle for another good post.
Come to think of it, the last time I was out that way I did have a cab take me out there (during the day) and it was rundown as hell. But at night, with a few cold beers in you, it probably looks a whole lot better.

I'll e-mail you upon my return. Later...

Please keep any e-mail pretty innocuous (sp?), as it is not private. Gracias.

I doubt Ojinaga will fit into my travels again (tho I have been thru Marfa before, taking the US 90/67 route from the left coast to south TX). Even on that route, I would probably choose Del Rio/Cd Acuna over Ojinaga. Still, I wouldn't entirely rule out a return. I do agree with you about liking the off-the-beaten-path destinations.

Just got back from a far West Texas odyssey. My trips took me all the way out to Presidio. Had to again grab the bus to Chihuahua in Ojinaga.

If you've never taken the bus ride from O to C try to do it once. It's a dangerous, super-scenic fantastic ride and only 14 bucks.

Prices in Chihuahua are as usual, way cheaper than places like Mexico City and Monterrey. I did make the rounds but didn't procure the service of any of the locals. Had a good time just kicking back with the locals and having some cold ones. I definitely saw where the places to be were.

Apparently they have added a couple of high-end gentlemen's clubs but didn't make it out to them. Stayed pretty much downtown area south of the cathredal.

On my return to Ojinaga, I had a cabbie again take me out to that rat hole they call a BT. Yes the word seedy would be high praise for that place. Went in to Fiesta for a beer, didn't see the kind of talent I wanted and we left in about 15 minutes. This was 2 p.m. in the afternoon though. They said the action starts around eight.

Well, there you go. Not too exciting in the mongering department. But enjoyed the isolation of Presidio and far West Texas again.

Thanks for the tip about the bus ride. How long is the trip, and just what is dangerous about it? (Driving or bandidos?) How often do the buses go?

Copper Canyon isn't too far from there is it? That would be something to see!

Five years ago made my first trip to Chihuahua City. Then hopped the bus from there and went down to Creel, which is the beginning of the CC.

It's a long six-hour bus ride south of Chihuahua City but worth the trip because of the scenery. Creel is a beautiful, cool, rustic mountain logging town. Good food and clean, but basic hotels. Doubt if there's any action for mongers though, but didn't ask around...

As for the Ojinaga-Chihuahua City leg, it's dangerous because of the torturous mountain terrain you cover to get there. Several dead man's curves as you make your way up and up and up. Finally though it levels out...There are a few spots that will make your jaw drop.

Anytime you want to e-mail me, do so at
UHalum@excite.com

Gregorio
Any other information on Chihuahua city. Yours is the only reference i've seen posted. Are there chica bars other then the high end strip clubs, sg's, massajes, casa de cita's or ?. I will be stopping on my way to Creel also. Also did it have a safe feel, hotels clean etc.

Thanks Perorojo

Pop me an e-mail

Gregorio;

Unfortunetly my e-mail is not free of prying espousa type eyes. Can you post a few tips ?

thanks
Perorojo

Perorojo,

See Chihuahua, Mexico section, just added.

Regards,

Tiny

Que bonito es Chihuahua, algun dia volvere...