Im going to NL for the first time business trip pleasure as well what is the best time to go to get best prices and choice of women my schedule is flexible also some place to stay

Michael,

First of all don't bother to go before 9:30 pm, EXCEPT perhaps you can check it out a little earlier on Thurs-Fri-Sat. For good deals, well it depends what you want. If you want to fuck something young & cute (but fairly motionless) just go for a SG and be sure to negotiate for "sin ropa" (sets you back $25 tops). If you want a shot at a GFE (only a shot, no guarantees) go for a club. Rule #1 for getting a bargain in a club is for there to be a favorable guy/gal ratio AND a good selection of chicas attractive to you AND NOT on a Saturday. Then you should shoot for $35/$40 at Shamrock (includes room) or Marthas (room extra); $45 at Tamyko (room $7); and $50 at Pgo or Marabu (room extra; and I've never done better than $55 at Marabu for some reason). Those prices are for 1/2 hour; I wouldn't offer too much more than 1.5x that amount for an hour. And here is my experience with days:

Tuesdays: Best between 10-12, pretty quiet but there can be some good deals at Tamyko or Shamrock; also the SG's are best during the week.

Wednesdays: About the same but there's a LITTLE bit of a buzz around 10 when chicas from Mty trickle in for a long weekend (esp. at Pgo and Marabu)

Thu: This is my favorite night; starts going a bit earlier, an a GOOD stream of Mty chicas coming in around 10

Fri: Like Thu, even more Mty chicas, but by about 11:30 the place is really ragin' and if there's even a slightly unfavorable ratio forget bargains;

Sat: I just hate saturdays, too busy, SG's turning such volume it's not too apetizing unless you're into sloppy fourteenths; 'nother thing, if you are looking for an all nighter watch out, a lot of the girls expect to get a bus back to Mty at 4 am or so.

Note on clubs... Here's how I see them these days:

Papagayo's: Boredom. Mainly I see are not-very-attractive chicas with bellies; not especially-attractive faces; a few well-put-together babes with implants; and very little in the way of..well just the nice bodies you see all over the place in Europe, Asia, and on US college campuses. Also, I find the guy:gal ratio is often not in our favor at Pgo's when at the same time it's much better elsewhere. Also dark as hell.

Tamyko's: You'll think I'm nuts after the big rag on Pgo's above but I like this place, there are a lot of PRETTY ok looking women here, it's not too expensive, and I've had real good luck here with GFE's. Also the ratio is often awesomely in OUR favor. Downsides include some pushy chicas, including the notorious Melisa.

Marabu. Basically I love this place and have met some great chicas there but it's VERY empty and on many nights you'll find nothing. The chicas vary a lot--some can be very attractive, others not so much. There are a few kind of hardened pros there but a lot of turnover as well and you can hit a real gem on occasion. I admit no real luck there in the last half year but YMMV and it depends on your taste. Also most of the guys who work there are great.

Martha's: A total shithole and the barkers can be assholes and the chicks often have dicks BUT--for a while last year there were some cuties there and the prices were good. May not be worth your while even to check it now.

Shamrock. I'm just kind of getting into this place; good prices and some ok chicas--I'm a bit ambivalent on my recent experience there because my chica was very cute and very eager to please, BUT, she was also uh, doing airplane glue or something (huffing out of a coke bottle)...

1-2-3. I started hanging out there whenever in BT and once went to the room with a chica but now I am kind of cooled on it; I don't like the atmosphere and I find the chicas weirdly difficult to connect with (other than to pay them for a lap dance) and they seem to have zero interest in talking to patrons (maybe it's just me but I don't think so). Also somehow the chicas look better from a distance (and on stage) than they do up close and personal.

As for places to stay, just look through the postings here, much has been said already.

One more thing--you MIGHT want to engage the services of Chris, a guy who wanders around, will be a guide if you keep sending beers his way, and always claims to have the line on great new girls. But if you're reasonably comfortable going around on your own, you'll do just fine and it's more fun to get to know the chicas than it is to get to know Chris.

Ok, well that's my quick take. Have a GREAT time and be sure to tell us all about it!!

--Sigue

Sigue,

You wrote, "Shamrock. I'm just kind of getting into this place; good prices and some ok chicas--I'm a bit ambivalent on my recent experience there because my chica was very cute and very eager to please, BUT, she was also uh, doing airplane glue or something (huffing out of a coke bottle)..."

I had a similar experience about a year ago, but assumed it was a one off experience. The girl was using a plastic bag filled with something. That girl has kinky hair and looked about 18. Sorry forgot her name. I may still have a photo somewhere, but doubt it. Killer Body and no kids. Gave great service, but had I known before hand would not have tried her. It was during the day around noon. I never saw her again. Word had it she was a part-timer.

What did this one look like? Do you remember her name? How old was she? How much? Day or night? At least she didn't break out a pipe.

If you want a great one, try Laura at one of the bars on the top of the back street. Very reasonable. She hangs out at Peluda? Something like that. A real dive, but she was worth it.

AB

AB, didn't see yr post till just now....

OK, her name was Rosi, and I think she was new about a half year ago (Chris pointed her out to me around then and said she was new).

I think it's a different girl from the one you mentioned. Rosi said she was 21, from Monterrey, had 1 3-y.o. daughter; she had somewhat bleached-to-reddish hair, beyond shoulder length and wavy; she was about 5'4 tops; thinnish shoulders, medium tits, totally untrimmed bush (stuck out in "wings" past her panties, heh...) Basically gentle and sweet.

Hey thanks man about the tip on Laura, I never EVER woulda thought to check out the bars on the top of the back street--you must mean on the row where the "Western" is and those other TV bars, right? Well I'll look for it next time I'm there.

--Sigue

Sigue,

If her hair was straight then probably a different girl, and the timing sounds off, but the untrimmed bush sounds about right.

No top end. Avoid the TV Bars. Chris knows who she is. As a matter of fact he recommended her. Enter through the gate, and take a left immediately after entering and go all the way down to the end. Laura's bar at least a month ago, was on the top of the last street.

Avoid Maritza like the plague. She works out of the same bar. She will promise anything to get you in the room, but is real bad news.

Good luck,

AB

NEED ADVICE AND DIRECTIONS TO BT
What are the pros and cons of driving there yourself? What are the directions? Mexican driving habits are no problem for me, and I was thinking of overnighting on the Mexican side in any case.

Palmiro, I just brought my SUV over from Juarez to NL and there is no problem driving over there. I'll get you directions tomorrow. I know how to get there but I don't know the street names off the top of my head. It is not difficult to find though. Occasionally, early in the morning, the police will be checkiing for drunk drivers but not often! Matter of fact, I'm going over there tonight! For the overnight, try the Villa Real Motel. Damn nice! Great steaks for 50NL