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	Archive 01	50		2005/04/25, 10:40 pm

Jesse was working the street last night.

As I was walking from Placers to LB I was approached by a guy who turned out to be Jesses brother Alex. I saw him a couple times during the night and he said Jesse had been stabbed 5 times in front of Fernis and wasnt working a lot yet. Hes not as pushy as Jesse, sat with me for a bit at LB and then later at Placers but was on the move. I was going to give him some $ after Rio private but when I came out he was gone.

Jesse doesn't have a brother named Alex. His brother is Gilberto.

Roberto, Jesse asked me to give you a message. I forgot what it was - sorry.

Jesse aka Scarface was out working again. He wanted me to let you all know he got the dudes that jumped him. Also, he wanted me to tell you guys not to trust either Gilberto (bro) or Alex (cuz)........

Fellow mongers....

Allow me to post some contrarian thoughts here...I'm not addressing any monger, so don't take offense....

This whole thread is beginning to piss me off. After all, Club Hombre is supposed to be about the girls, not about the pimps. Why are we promoting this one pimp?

Step back from any personal attachments, and the tread is beginning to read like a daytime soap. This pimp punched out that pinp, this pimp is really his brother...no he is not...well, maybe he is. Who kicked theshit out of who. Who is a liar and who is not.

Look, I'm not sure I ever met Jessie...but then again, maybe I have as I generally don't strike up acquaintences with the pimps....most are a royal pain in the ass.

Hell, if you can't get laid in Nogieland without a pimp, then maybe you'd better quit going there. And yes, I've used pimps on occasion, and generally been pissed with the results.

Yeah, I know, if I don't give a shit about the pimps, don't read the thread. Agreed. I just wanted to get my two cents in that I think a thread that promotes a pimps (as opposed to one that give general, useful information) is out of place.

But then again, I AM a miserable old fuck, so what do I know?????

Go start an anti-pimp thread then. That is the beauty of this site. We have the right to say whatever we want on this site as long as it is within the rules.

Your point is well taken, Diabetic. But I think this thread is useful. Most pimps should be avoided, for sure. I've had very good results with Jesse, but others haven't. I would advise extreme caution when dealing with any of them. But he's there, he's a part of the scene. Chances are you're going to run into him whether you're looking for him or not, so best to be informed about him and others.

I don't deal with other pimps or touts, and don't even usually enlist Jesse's help. But he can be very useful for scoring a decent, cheap hotel date with one of his girls, and can also help with the club chicas. He knows which club chicas are sure bets for hotel dates, and can hook you up with them when you might strike out on your own. He can also get you a reasonable price, whereas the club chica might otherwise demand a fortune.

We went to go visit Jesse at his house last night. He seems to be doing well. They really cut him up good. I think he said that he lost three pints of blood. Fortunately the only damage he sustained were a bunch of scars. According to him he is done working. I have my doubts about that. Opportunities are limited down there. I wish him luck.

Jesse is no different than the street guys in TJ and they are talked about all the time on this board.
I see no problem with having a Jesse section.
As long as he is not ripping off people and doing a service that you feel is justified for paying why complain ?
Everything is overpriced in Nogales anyway so what is an extra few bucks ??

Have any of you Nogales tough guys ever think of hitting Mexicali >?
I will be hitting that place again soon
I am saving my pennies and collecting cans for the trip !!

take care
TG Milky

Milky ,

let me know when your gonna go to mexiccali, i'd be down to hit it up with you.

Jesse is back in business now. I figured the retirement wouldn't last. If anyone needs his phone number it is 01152-631-305-4973.

I ran into jesses buddy, i forgot his name the short fat guy, we were trying to track down leslie/alondra/abigal, we went to tecolote, and a couple of strip bars... I saw some SG near the "donkey" area, then i saw this really hot looking blond SG, but jesses buddy told me that she was GUY?? i was like damn , thank god i am not drunk. be careful of the TS in the area... Another crazy thing happened earlier in the night...some young looking guy came up to me and asked me if i wanted some action, said he had a sister, I said yeah, right, whatever.. then he said, do you want to have sexo with me?? I was like what the hell?? now we have gayboys hustling the streets..I told him he really shouldnt solict gringos on the streets, he is liable to get his ass kicked..

Fuck that shit.

Yeah, I'll bet his "sister" is really his brother, LOL (or him in a dress and pumps)...

i saw alex and jesse last night. alex has another fucking black eye, his eye is filled with blood, ugh.... he said he got jumped again...jeez, what is up with these guys? i got a broken nose a few years ago mouthing off to some people..i gave alex $5 to help me find some people...jesse was at fernis, introducing me to some friends.. jesse said he was going to "hook me up" with some of his girls, i said no thanks and left..

Alex has had wounds the last two times I have seen him. I have had good experiences with about 5 Jesse girls.

Jesse is now working mainly out of Obsessions. They are under new management (thank GOD) - and things are really looking up for that joint. Jesse is still the best pimp in town - he's the only pimp I trust. He's never scammed me or ripped me off, and has really cum through with some hotel dates (club chicas) for me. Odds are at least 90% that he can get you the girl you want (or at least your 2nd or 3rd choice) -- they will say "yes" if you are with Jesse when they might otherwise say "no". Believe me, I've tried it both ways. And the odds are even better than that that he can get you a better deal than you can on your own.

I thought I would pass the information along that Jesse died late last week. I was told that he asphyxiated on gas (perhaps CO) from a faulty heater in his home.

He was a good guy, as most of these posts attest. I met Jesse back when Lipsticks and Fernis were the only joints in town. At that time, the place to hook up with Chicas was actually Pancho Villa's on Obregon. (I haven't read any posts about the place, so I assume it's reverted back to a normal bar.) Jesse was well regarded by most of the people in the bars, and well be missed. He is survived by his parents, wife, and two children.

That story sounds a little fishy. Almost like a coverup. He told me regularly that someone was trying to kill him. I think this goes back to the stabbing incident. It was hard to get an answer out of him but I think he pissed off a big drug dealer over money most likely. If this is all true and I have no reason to doubt anybody, it is sad. Jesse could be very abrasive but deep down he was a good guy. I will miss him. Nogales won't be as much fun from now on.

The story about Jesse is true. I talked with Alex and then to Sherry at Fernis. both gave me the same story, that he is dead.

Papc_C, do you know if this happened in Nogales? Do you know what day this happened?

i talked with various dancers thru out the night, and they all told me the same story, it happened in Nogales, sometime dec. 10th or 11th...Most of the dancers seemed visibly upset of the passing of jesse..someone mentioned that the funeral may possibly be this sunday? not sure

Alex said that he saw the body in Jesses apartment. Alex thought that things in the apartment were not right. When he saw the body Sunday night it was in bad shape. Death might have been Friday.

Anybody seen Gilberto(Jesse's brother)since this shit has happened? He should know the truth. I would assume that Gilberto will be the new guy except that he doesn't speak english. This could pose a problem for some people. Is there a wake or a funeral or has it already happened? If it has happened then is he buried somewhere? The reason I ask is I will not be able to go down there to investigate until I get back from Christmas.

Look for Alex to pick up the slack, unfortunately. Almost makes you nostalgic for the littlest pimp.

He can get the job done but I don't like his style.

Yeah, Alex just plain stole $20 from me one time, and was always badmouthing Jesse. But I imagine he's the heir apparent because he speaks very good English. Gilberto doesn't speak much English at all, but if you know a little Spanish, you can get by with him.

How hard is it to hook up with these chicas by yourselves ?

Met a guy in front of Rio's Saturday night. I was trying to ask the door people what time the place closed and he coudnt understand english so he Called this one guy over. This one guy's name was named Reese I believe. He walked me upstairs,got me a good seat and said that if i wanted a girl for cheaper and longer than what they offered in Rio's. After having spent some time in a booth in rio's with Samantha, i was spent and decided to call it a night. As I was leaving Reese caught up with me and talked me into meeting a girl for $70 US (he also said he had one for $100). Unfortunetly, i had maxed my ATM withdrawel for the night and will have to wait. This guy seemed on the Up and Up and was obviously known by those at Rio's. He says he works around Rio's every night except Mondays. Could he be Jesse's replacement?? . Anybody have any info on this guy?

Milky, these girls aren't standing aroud somewhere on a street corner where you can just walk up and talk to them. They are semi-pros who are at home watching novellas and tending to their wailers in the trailers until somone gives them a call. If you have their phone number and have seen them before, you're in. But if not, you need someone to call them for you, ie a pimp.

I don't know this Reese guy, but I'd ask Miklo (mesero at Rio's) about him. Miklo is one of the few mesero's in Nogie I trust. Tony at Lord Black is a good guy, too.

Well gents, just got back from Nogi. Got yet another confirmation from Negro that it's true about Jesse. To the best of Negro's knowledge Jesse fell asleep with a heater left on or something. When no one had seen a sign of Jesse for two days they went looking for him, and found him in his apt. Probably happened shortly after Negro and I bumped into Jesse the other Thu night. I didn't even know who he was, since I'd never met him before. Vaya con Dios, hombre.

I just wanted to pay my respects. Dec. 7 was the one year anniversary of his death. I do still hang out alot with his brother Gilberto.

Raising one up, (a beer) to Jesse RIP

Just wanted to let everybody know that my sister-in-law lives in Mexico and just had a baby boy. I talked her into naming him Jesse. So now there is a new Jesse in Nogales!!