I keep hearing Nogales will be dead this weekend. Anyone know if that is true, or will the selection be any good

I was in Cherry's last Friday afternoon and Manuel asked if I wanted a hotel date with Reina. He told me it would cost $75 to take her to hotel Andres for one hour. The $75 includes a room at the Andre Hotel. That is not bad compare to the $24 for six minutes in a cube. Of couse you still have to pay the girl. It still cost more than TJ but Nogo is not as far.

thanks Kojak,

good to know she is available for a hotel date.
I would probably wait till 8:30-9:00 and just hook her up when she gets off work.

She is hot, and she is fun............

Justdan - She couldn't or wouldn't do it after work. She said that she needed to get home. That is why we went over to the hotel then. Initially I thought $75 was too much for the house. But with the room included, it wasn't too bad. May be you can talk her into doing after work. I think I try another time before and she said the same thing. The hotel deal was too bad. It is better than the Placer's $175 for half a hour.

Give Manuel a good tip and have the girl say she is going out for something to eat. Worked for me three times last fall.

Help, someone discribe Reina please. Last 2 times down I've gotten the impression business was not so good in nogiland. I wonder if lowering of the prices and more flexiblity on the girls part support this theory? When Monserat spends 1/2hr with me - things have to be tough.

and I was thinking they gave me the extra time because they liked me

At Cherrys on Saturday, April 6. Had a lap dance from the famous Leslie and a finger bang. What a set of boobs! Also has a lap dance from Dinora (SP), she is a girl that really enjoys her work. There was also some blonde who had a set of bulleyes from implants. Had another lap dance from a fairly flat chested girl, but boy was she beautifiul in the face. About 4:30 PM things got pretty heavy in the corner. Three guys were getting serious lap dances and a girl was getting a lap dance. The girl was chica with bib boobs and the lap dancer was rubbing nipple to nipple. The all of sudden some manager came out and shut down the corner. He was shouting out instructions and the place cleaned up. Not sure who he was or maybe he had some insight that the policia was coming, don't know. We left shortly afterwards. I told Leslie that she was recommended by Mr. Bill. She does not speak any enlgish so I had one of the pedros interpert for me. Sorry Mr. Bill, she did not recognize your name.

That's okay, Bushmaster. I don't go around introducing myself to the chicas as MrBill... I'll betcha she would recognize my wallet, though! (She is da bomb, though, isn't she?)

MrBillO^™- ~ Your hapless lapdance reporter... ~

Mrbill,
I thought you had billboards all over Nogi, so that the chicas would think you are a rich gringo and give you TLN GFE's.


Bluelight,
Description of Reina, sounds like one of the girls Bushmaster described up above. She is rather slender, small boobs, and very pretty face. Kinda has small chinese like eyes. She is pretty quiet until she gets to know you. Then its all fun. One of my favs. Ask one of the ticket sellers who she is, they all know.

Justdan - I found out last night why she won't go out after work. She's married and her husband picks her up after work. She's been married for two years now.

As for getting the girl to go out for something to eat, I went out once with a girl and she got into a little trouble when the management found out. Since the hotel is included, it is only $50 dollars more. And the bed makes up the the cost difference. I didn't mind so much.

Thanks for the info Kojak, I always wondered why she doesnt work elsewhere after Cherries closes. Just curious did she tell you this first hand?
Or did you hear it from a chica.

I need to get back to Nogi, havent been for several weeks now. Gotta get my fix. Addicted to Mexico.

Justdan - Reina told me this herself. At the hotel she seem in a hurry afterward so I asked her why she was in a hurry since I paid for an hour. That is when she told me that her husband might be waiting for her. It was only 7:30pm. Don't know if I'll have another hotel visit with her again. She is quiet and sweet but I don't like the idea that she is married. It is just me.

Ditto that last comment

The above comments are exactly why most chicas will not tell you they have a husband or boyfriend around. Most of the chicas have a husband or boyfriend, or both, somewhere (though often they are in some distant city).

El Tecolote - I have known several ladies here and in TJ over the years. Most of them are working to support kids and/or their parents. Or just saving to buy a house or pay for school. Most of the ladies aren't married, that is why they have to work. If they are married, then the husband would be supporting the family. Reina being married and that he picks her up is a total different thing for me. I just don't like the idea of playing with someone else's wife.

You give the ladies too much credit when you think that they know what to say and how to act with customers. If that was the case, our experience at the boarder would be much better. I put my experience at the boarder just a little above the U.S. strip bars which I don't bother to go at all now. The average sessions I had in Montreal are better than the most of sessions in Nogo, TJ, or NL. And at Montreal you don't even have the advantage of seeing and talking with them first. You just call the agencies and pick them by descriptions or photos on their wedsite. In addition, Canada cost less than Mexico. For that matter just about everywhere else cost less than the boarder towns.

Kojak: My basis for saying that many of the chicas lie about having a boyfriend or husband, is mostly from info told to me from experienced TJ mongers. I would certainly agree it is unusual for a chica to actually have a husband picking her up at work. I wouldn't underestimate the chicas knowing a few professional lies they stick to.

As for the boarder experience,I think they get away with giving as little, for as much money as they can get especially from gringos.

Having mongered in Amsterdam and Canada, I would certainly agree with you about cost and, in general, quality of experiece. The main advantage of the boarder is that it is close.

Went there last Wednesday afternoon and the place was full of chicas. Must have been around 20-25 girls! I had a strange experience with one of the ladies. I don't know her name yet but she is the really dark skinned girl who likes to play with herself on stage and she has big natural tits. Anyway, I got a table dance from her and I'm sucking on these babies when she pushes my head into her tit. Then I realize that I can't breath and I try to pull away but she starts to push harder. I finally got away from her tit and she's just sitting there laughing at me. Really kind of strange. But what is even more strange is that I got another dance from her so she could do it again! BTW, this is by far the best club going right now.

El Tecolote - The biggest reason the ladies don't like information out is bacuse they think some how it is going to get back to the hometown. All of them either have families and/or friends that don't know what they're doing for a living.

Have you been to Montreal? I have been to Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal. The other Canadian city don't compare with Montreal.

Sundevil, the girl you had was the famous Leslie. On Saturday I had a great couple of privados with the beautiful Alodra. Cherries is absolutely stacked with talent right now. You have Leslie, Abigail, Alondra, and Carla. There are many more but I haven't met them all yet.

Kojak: I've been to all three: Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal, but have only mongered in Vancouver. I was in Vancouver last summer and it was great! This year I'm going back to Vancouver and will also spend some time in Victoria, which I'm told is even better for mongering.

When I was in Montreal several years ago, I was not yet on the internet, so didn't really know about the great mongering there. In what way(s) was Montreal better for mongering?

I visited Cherries this last Saturday after a very nice rain storm. I had stopped by Rio first but it was DAMN hot up there, much better outside or in Cherries.

In any case, I noticed Hera (from Placers) dancing there. Theodora was my choice that day though. Had a very nice session (OK, three. I was a little uptight that day) with her. I do recommend her if you get the chance. She speaks English fairly well and is always smiling talking to various people. Not a high pressure kind've girl either. Quite nice.

On another note, the border is changing again. For those of you who haven't been down lately, there've been some changes to the entrance and exit to/from Mexico. They've put up some steel fencing so you have to walk a bit farther now and loop around to go across the road.

Anyone know why? Are they looking to cut down on the traffic over there? J/C

Lord Blackrose

The fencing is on the main port of entry, it's basically because more extensive questioning and searching is going on by u.s. immigration types and it causes a huge backlog of pedestrians that would normally wonder (or stand) in the street in the way of Southbound traffic. Now it just curls around those funky bat-man winged buildings. It also provides seclusion to the mexican immigration's secondary inpection area.

A theory I have about the Cherry's chicas, is that it is much more likely to find a chica there, that has local connections. This is the result of Cherry's being a daytime place.

This is relevant to the discussion of a few days ago about Reina, and her husband picking her up.

It seems that many of the chicas are on some sort of rotation of different cities of Mexico. However, at Cherry's, my impression is that more of the chicas live in Nogales and only work at Cherry's and sometimes Lipstick's. This is in contrast to Placer's and Lord Black's. I would be interested to hear from other mongers about this theory.

Tecolote: This is true of the girls that do not go to Lipstick's afterward. They are: local, do not rotate out, have a family (kids, mom, significant other [not too many dads around]) and need that "daytime" type schedule. If you look in the archives, some of us have been writing about those girls that are there for a long time.

Nogi Boy: Thanks for the response. I would just add that it seems that some of the local chicas that work at Cherry's also go to Lipstick's after their Cherry's shift, just because they need the extra money or are greedy.

El Tecolote - There are lots of agencies in Montreal with many ladies. Many of the ladies are students at the four universities there. So most of the ladies are 18 to 25. You just call a agency and get a girl to come over to your hotel room for $130 to $150 Canadian which is about $100 USD. The hour starts when they arrive at your room and they all stay the whole hour. Some agencies are open in the daytime as well. Starting at 0900 in the morning. You'll never have problem at any of the hotels in Montreal for having girls over. Most enjoy sex and BBBJ is the norm. And multiple shots on goal in the hour. Total opposite of Mexico. In addition, if you want them for more hours, the other hours are cheaper than the first hour. All this in your own hotel room. I have stayed in Queen Elizabeth, Courtyard, and Holiday Inn. Great city to hangout as well.

You can get lots of info on www.canbest.com. There you can get review on girls. One disadvantage is that you don't meet them first. But I have never had to turn one back. On the average, most are nice looking and some are model types. Some agencies have website where you can see the ladies body.

I find that the cost of Montreal is much cheaper than other cities in Canada. Now I only go to Montreal.

FYI: Anyone looking for Fernanda (blond hair, big fake tits, braces) she is no longer working at Cherries. In fact she no longer works in Nogales. I recently saw her at Bush Co. II on west Indian School Rd. (east of 43rd ave.). It surprised the hell out of me when I saw her! But after I asked her for a privado I think she was even more surprised than I. After talking to her it seems that she came across the border with her twin sister. Fernanda works in the day (I was there on a Wednesday) and she said her sister works at Christies during the night. And I just want to say thanks the Border Patrol for letting this one slip by.

Sundevil - is this in Phoenix? She has a twin sister?? Hmmmm...

WOW,

yes Mrbill its in Phx.

Sundevil, is she "only" dancing or will she still do dates after work? I'm gonna have to go see her. Maybe we can get some more chicas from Nogi up here then we can save ourselves of taking that long ass drive. wishful hoping

Can't wait to have a pool/hot tub party with her and her sister at the casa!! Somebody post her phone number.

she told me end of March she would be here. I bet they brought the devil child with them. 43ave and I.S. That's a drive for us Roberto. They sure won't have a car. So Roberto, you think she'll take another swing at you when you see her?

No, she likes me again. She got all weird when she saw me do a girl (Paula) she didn't like. Next time I saw her we hung out with Cindy at my hotel. The following time they had me do a threesome in Rios. I want a 3some at the ABC!!

confirmed (almost),

went to see her this afternoon, wasnt there, described her to the bartender, she now goes by the name Andrea, she works Wed-Sat, dayshift

suerte

bluelight roberto, justdan, anyone else, wanna make a trip over to the WEESSSIDE on sat afternoon....oh wait i am supposed to go to nogales sat..hmm decisions...

For once, you guys in Phoenix are lucky - hotel date chica just across town (especially if she works the day shift...) I wonder if her English is good enough for her to get by - but I've heard it's better than she lets on sometimes.

Anyone know what her sister looks like? I also wonder if she'll raise her prices now that she's in the US. If anyone gets her away from the club, why don't you let us know how it goes.

MrBill

Hey MrBill,

It all makes sense now???

I have a job that allows me a lot of freedom so I went over to the Bush Co. once again. Fernanda sees me and comes to chat. The funny thing is I have seen her often in Nogi, however I never took part in any fun with her and she recognized me.

So we begin chatting and she calls another girl that use to work at Nogi, her name is Cindy. Her face looked vaguely familiar but the one chica that I thought she was, had rock hard enhanced tits. This girl didnt, although she may have had them removed.

So they start asking me about what is happening in Nogi, I tell them who I know and what I know, and it was pretty funny they started bad mouthing the chicas they dont like. A couple of the girls they were calling maranas (pigs).

So I buy a dance from Fernanda, IT SUCKED!!! Not that she didnt do all she could its just that american strip clubs suck. No touching. So anyway I did behave myself and we talked some more and she springs the first suprise on me.
She tells me she is now married. Has a big ass ring on her finger. She told me some dude from Phx that she met at Cherries asked her. So I dont know if she will do dates anymore. (Ofcourse she could be lyin to me).

The second suprise that she told me. Her sister is here also working in a club (I know, you already knew that) her sister is a twin, and her name is Venus!!!

I read how some of you guys have mentioned that she is psychotic. It makes sense now, they are 2 different people.

Fernanda= blond, braces, average tits
Venus= brunette, huge tits, no braces
I will verify this Fri. nite.

I recall in Dec. that I reported Santa had got Fernanda some new larger tits, it turns out that it was Venus. When I saw her today I asked her did she have her tits reduced, she said no, that her sister has large ones.

They apparently kept this fact a secret, it seems Monserat was after one of them, and only one of them would work at a time.

I know this all sounds like it is from bizzaro world, and I'm not sure what I believe yet. I will verify Fri. nite, if they are 2 different people.

Sure seems plausable with all the confusion about Fernanda/Venus and the erratic behavior.

BTW Venus is suppose to get married in June/July
Hope you enjoyed this tale, I relayed to you all the same way it was relayed to me.

jd

Exellent recon jd - excellent....

But now I'm really confused. I thought it was the same girl that used a different name for each hair color. She was Fernanda when she was brunette and Venus when she was blond. I was with her once as each. Both had braces and the same tits. If it was 2 different girls, then they share a whole lot of info! Her sister who she lived with in Nogi had a 3year old son and is married. I didn't think they were twins.

Now the reason I'm pretty sure of this, is the first trip down when she was in Rocky Point - Dinora and I talked about her. Dinora told me her name was Fernanda but she used Venus as a stage name - they were close friends.

Who would name twins Fernanda and Venus? Come on, Venus for a Mexican name?


The married part - I doubt it - she told me in Feb that she was coming over the end of March and we would go to Vegas and Disney Land when she got here.

JD, how are you going to verify it friday night? You going to Christies? to see Venus.

Something that does seem right though. From what Venus told me about Roberto, no way she would ever talk to him again let alone do a 3-way. Maybe it is 2 diff girls. One likes him and one doesn't.

I just might come back from Nogi early Sat to help figure this out.

Bluelight,

the only way I can verify is by the size of the tits. Venus are profoundly larger. As far as the names Fernanda and Venus I get the feeling they are stage names. I agree that some things dont add up, then some things make sense.

For instance, they never worked in Nogi at the same time, then here in Phx. one works the dayshift then the other works the night. hmmmm
Maybe they take turns watching the child but who knows.

As far as being married, I get the feeling it just happened as a way for her to get to stay here permanently.

Anyway you look at it, makes for an entertaining mystery or more like a soap opera. I'd like to see what she tells someone who knows her better. If you see her, dont let on what you know, and see what info she volunteers.

We might get 4 or 5 different versions of what I was told

Venus and Fernanda are the same girl. She used to go by Venus before she got her implants put in. Later when she went blond and implants she changed her name to Fernanda. I have known her to work in Rios,Cherries, Lipstick, and most recently in Placers. Cindy(formerly Tiana)from Lipstick is her sidekick. I am not saying that there is not a sister in the picture but there are not twin sisters by the name of Venus and Fernanda.

They may or may not be twins, however the girl I saw in Dec. at both Cherrys and Placers, without a doubt had much much larger tits than the girl I saw this afternoon

Roberto do you remember when she got the impants? My first contact, she always had impants as long as I've known her, was the friday after Thanksgiving in Lipsticks. Kandew and spent most of the evening at Fernis with Baby and I spent my time in Lipsticks with dark hairded Fernanda as I remember it. New Years she had dark hair, monger convention was blond and Venus, feb was butch short blond and still Venus. Jesse and I both told her she looked like shit that friday night so we went shopping for hair extentions the next day. First time I've ever shopped for hair extentions. That was the last time I saw her.

Married and working double shifts? What a lucky guy she found!

what a crazy story, sounds like a bad b grade David Lynch film... twin mexican strippers, mongers, border crossings, drugs, ..heck all we need now is some demented midgets and some crossdressing FBI agents, and we would be set....Lets Rock... (David Lynch fans will get the joke)

Wow, I'm totally confused. I was with Fernanda three times and I'm sure each time it was the same girl - blonde hair, braces and big implants all three times. I never saw the brunette, so who knows... Does the "Venus" incarnation have implants, too?

MrBill

They both have implants. Its just that Venus has huge ones.....

I am telling you guys it is the same girl. Her hair in the daytime is brunette and when she goes to work she usually wears it as blone. I have a feeling she went up another cup size around the beginning of the year.

I agree with Roberto. She is one person. Braces, blond or brunette, nice implants, nice round rear, kinda tall, minimal ingles, Cherry's early and Placer's late.

Bluelight and I are thinking about doing a recon mission later today at ABC to check out Fernanda...

I'm considering making a trip down to Nogie for some day time action. Get there @ noon , leave @ 5:00 pm, be back in Phoenix by 7:30 - 8:00. I want to catch some daytime action and at least go see whats cooking at cherries , rio, and (god help me for saying this) la conga. If anyone is interested , alphabits4l@yahoo.com , we can set something up for the future.