STDs in Nogales

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By Papa_C on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 10:42 am:  Edit

Two weeks ago I cross the border and before I can get to Cherrys for my first beer three street guys run up to me and tell me that Baby is back in town .She had put the word out that I was to come to see her. I say to myself, what the hell, just do it and get it over with. I am on my second beer when she sets down on my lap. We look into each others eyes and the emotion from the past year passes between us. I buy a couple of vips just to talk where the music isnt so loud. yah, we talked for over a half hour... about my family, her family, our dreams in life, and about how stupid it was to get so pissed at each other. I said to say hello to her brother , and to give her grandmother a hug for me. and, no, I will not have sex with you. Well, later, if I get drunk enough. It took me two weeks to get drunk enough. I spent Friday night and saturday evening with my novia, the new girl at cherrys, so I had plenty of money left to spend on the putas. LORD BLACK was close by, so I go in and order a beer. She is there in the nude as usual. It gets my brain working, and I am doing a little thinking also. About all those times, banging away at that tight little pussy. The sheets so fucking wet from her cuming. Her wanting me not to cum inside of her, but then at that moment begging me to fill her full of cum. OK, she says, 200.oo for one hour. Blowjob and sex sin condon. thirty seconds later I find myself on top of her in the bedroom getting a good bbbj. No, I am really just fucking her mouth. I am about ready to cum in her mouth so I get off of her,flip her over on top of me, and start to lower her down. she twists to one side and says, No Michael, we cant. I try to stay calm, which is very hard to do, and try again. She says No Michael, you will get STD. I have STD, she says..................I get up and leave. The mgr. give me my money back and a free beer. He say that next time I come in he will set me up with a NICE girl. BABY probably does have STD. from the way she acted last July, the times she cried, the things she said, the time she was gone, and the fact that she was planning on leaving Nogales very soon. When she left in July I thought that she was going to have a baby, or that she did have STD. I had myself checked in July, after Baby was gone. justcallmeoneluckysob

By MrBill on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 11:56 am:  Edit

Papa_C - don't you think Baby was telling you she had an STD because she isn't on the pill and doesn't want to have a child right now? Seems entirely plausible to me... Besides, if your bare cock is already inside her, what difference does it make if you cum in her or not??

I don't think Baby has any STDs. And I think it's really unfair of you to acuse her of such - especially when you THINK about it.

Get over Baby and give her a break.

By Happyboy on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 12:07 pm:  Edit

there are probably some sex workers in nogales who have STDs..just a numbers game, actually. i always use condoms for intercourse, and oral sex as well, and i know with me, baby always insists on me wearing condoms..it could have been an act of desperation, knowing you like BB sex with her, and knowing how difficult it is for her to say no, she said something that would make you not want to have BB sex with her...

By Papa_C on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 12:29 pm:  Edit

Just the facts as she tells it. No girl that works in a club would say that she has STD, ESPECALLY IF IT WAS NOT TRUE. And Mr. Bill I do not acuse her of this.It is what she said. I have been over her for a long time, she is the one that put the word out all over Nogie for me to come to her. She was the one that set the terms for the bedroom.And there are times when many of us dont think. One of the things that this site does is to help some of us get our heads on straight when we need it. It is a better use for clubhombre than than being a site for putas to hustle mongers.

By Papa_C on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 12:41 pm:  Edit

Its a good thought Happyboy. But there are too many clues from the last 4 mo. that back up what she said last night. Hell, I am just telling the story as it happened. thanks for the input.

By MrBill on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 12:56 pm:  Edit

Okay Papa_C - a bit of a retraction... I misread your post to think, when she said she had an STD, that you were already inside her bareback. My apologies on that.

But I still think she just didn't want you to cum inside her. If you were just about to blow your load, I don't think she wanted you to cum in her, for whatever reason. The least of which might be that she's not on birth control - or I assume so. I've never known any Nogie chica to be on birth control of any kind except condoms.

Maybe she had every intention of going bareback with you, but didn't want you to cum inside her. I really don't know. But that seems much more plausible than her actually having an STD.

Don't you know by now that chicas sometimes tell you 'non-truths' - sometimes even when they don't have to?

I know you're just reporting what she said. But I think, in this case, Baby was just BS'ing you. I just strongly suspect that there is another side of the story, and I don't think it's fair to report that Baby has an STD - especially when the circumstances under which it was said is highly suspect, IMO.

By Papa_C on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 01:29 pm:  Edit

Thanks again Mr. Bill. But I cant think of what you have to back up your statement that she is just bsing me. Yes it took me a long time to understand her non truths. and even longer to accept them. There is one very fine chica that is not my best friend any longer because I was so stupid about Babys non truths. And IMO I have been with her more than all of you added together. I think? I know her?? I saw her every weekend when she was in Nogie.somethhing was very different when she left in July. I believe what she said was true.that is what I saw in her eyes and in the sadness of her voice. Please understand that my comments, other that Babys statement are my humble thoughts, based on what she has said to me. I mean her no harm, my heart goes out to her because of what I know about her. But it is too bad that she is on this site. much would be said by all of us that is not. And I now understand that i was foolish to get to know her so well. or any other puta for that matter. Today, for the first time I feel that I have joined the club of mongers. I can only hope that i stay on the right track

By MrBill on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 01:33 pm:  Edit

Okay - fair enough. I always assume las chicas are full of shit - that's my basis, LOL :) Welcome to the club of mongers...

By Papa_C on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 01:48 pm:  Edit

Going to cherrys now.

By Roberto on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 02:31 pm:  Edit

This type of post would be more useful if it was limited to facts.

By Papa_C on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 02:40 pm:  Edit

True,but I didnt think that anyone would want to believe just the facts. too much background

By MrBill on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 02:48 pm:  Edit

Papa_C - if you get to LB, can you ask about the whereabouts of the Famous Samantha for me? Not the other Samantha that's there (very formerly Rio - just had her kid). (If there's any confusion, the Famous Samantha is the one with tattoos on each butt cheek). Thanks!!

By Baby on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 12:56 pm:  Edit

papa_c- FUCK YOU
if i dont want to have sex with you without condom because you have sex with 1000 putas without condom & LIER i never told you i have or i had STD, i told you i dont want have STD because maybe you have STD... never ll have sex or bj without condom with you...im ok... i have my health card...

p.s you ll should to go to the doctor

By Milkman on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 01:20 pm:  Edit

You go baby :)
Give him the business !!
by the way for those who don't know Baby is a verified chica on the board.

This is known as an internet kick to the balls !!
hopefully papa wil not show his face inside the club where she works again.
What you posted Papa made almost no sense i am sorry , perhaps we will give you the benifit of the doubt and you didn't understand her.
With the way girls talk what rep this guy must have by now.

papa i would slow down before one of these girls gets even the Chiapas way. Posting that is pretty serious especialy when she is a member of the board.

Milkman

By Justdan on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 04:01 pm:  Edit

Baby glad to hear its not true.

and

stay away from Milkman,
he's muy malo........

(just kidding he's a nice guy)
just confused

By Happyboy on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 01:00 am:  Edit

papa c, do the mexican sex workers a favor, please wear a FUCKING CONDOM!!! i know it feels good, the joy of bareback sex, blah blah, but hell, we dont need all the sex workers preggo, and/or stds.. buy some durex ultra thin condoms, feels like nothing at all... just a friendly PSR from the monger board..
p.s. dont you remember what we talked about last week? did you forget already?

By Baby on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 03:47 pm:  Edit

papa_c- if you know about club hombre it was for me... did you remember that? maybe this site no is for putas but no is for mongers liers like you... how many lies you will say about me?...why do you make me that?...do you want to finish with my friends? like my mom & my exboy...remember when you were in obregon in my home with my mom & all my family, in the house of my exboy & you told Baby is my lover (this was lie) never was your lover... & you told to my friends that i had 3 months living with you (this is a lie too)...& you told & wrote that Baby is pregnant (another lie)...now you wrote that i have or had STD(one more lie)...which is your next lie maybe that i have AIDS or so?... do you remember that always you asked to me Baby do you want to marry with me? & always i told you im young but ever i thought he are crazy is more old thant my grandfather...hahaha...but its the truth...i think so...you are NASTY & dirty... sorry men...i dont want to listen more lies about me...dont bother me more...forget me please...you can do it...i not will let that you hurt me again...
stay away of me...
stay away of my family...
stay away of my friends...
get out of my life...

By Roberto on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 04:53 pm:  Edit

This is better than any soap opera. Where oh where is Papa C??

By Chucky69 on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 05:50 pm:  Edit

Give him hell Baby, I don't know who any of you are, but isn't this great. Is this the Young & the Restless or As The Ho Turns.

By Roberto on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 06:12 pm:  Edit

It is just like Pedro Escamoso on Telemundo.

By antonio9977030 on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 08:19 pm:  Edit

This is the funnest thread I have read in a year. Baby I want to ver tu en nogales.

By Griff on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 10:00 pm:  Edit

man I can't beleive I just caught this thread.....shit....I have spent Allot of time in Nogi the past six months and have got to know many people, many owners and many clubs. I have had my share of good fortune and bad>>>Yet I never could really see the benefit in bragging on it. we are all doing each other a favor by posting the facts laced with an opinion here and there which is usually intended to produce a chuckle, nothing more. I had developed the OPINION, long ago, the Papa C was the very best bullshitter in the nogales threads...yet I kept it too myself because that opinion serves no real purpose I thought.....Yet it does, for every new monger who joins this site looking for viable info. Then they read a bS thread about I guy who NEVER pays more than $50 U.S. for a hotel date.....and usually pays nothing at all. I think deep down we all knew that was BS yet I, for one, kept quite. But I think sometimes maybe we should chime in and help to expose the inaccuracies. In closing.......I know Baby vaguely, yet I truely feel for her. That was a malicious thread, and a vicious statement to make.........way to go Baby...and to Papa C....I for one am quite aware how fast news can spread in nogi. I would have to say that you are on dangerous ground my friend.....If word were to get out that you spread those kind of rumors about Dancers, by the way those are also girls who are employed by DANCE CLUB OWNERS, there might not be wallet big enough to get you into another club in nogi.....IMHO

Griff

By Justdan on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 05:47 am:  Edit

If I was him, and thank god I'm not....lol

I would stay away from Nogi for a long while. I would definetly fear for my well being. I mean seriously, do you think its beyond the realm of possibility that he could get thugged or worse for the statements he's made.......

some unsolicited advise

By Mr. Bad Example on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 12:45 pm:  Edit

Considering the type of people these girls hang out with, it's well within the realm of possibility.

By Baby on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 02:22 pm:  Edit

im tired of him...just i want to say STOP to this obsession...dont love him...dont like him... he cant understand it...so i feel fear of him...im afraid...

By The Gnomes of Zurich on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 06:03 pm:  Edit

Sounds to me like she's juking you, PapaC.

Had she heard, e.g., a slanderous rumor about your having an STD she (sh/w)ouldn't have agreed to sexo sin condon.

If she had one herself, as you say, her best interest would have been to silently infect you.

So either she spontaneously decided she couldn't stand you, and used the STD thing as an excuse; or she just got a bunch of money por nada.

STBY,

Dem Gnomes

By Papa_C on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:13 pm:  Edit

I have enjoyed all of your posts. yes, I have been silent because of the the threats on my life.But I just posted the truth. BTW do you really know anything about Chiapas? And I do sometimes pay more than 50 for a hotel date. 100 for a good all night fuck and again when we wake up. I think that we all pay too much for these girls. There are quality girls out there that do not work in the clubs that will charge half or less of what you will pay in a club. over the last year I have had 7 girls that were Nogales locals, all for less than 60. After about three mo. working in a club they think that they are worth 100 or more. they get together to keep prices high, we can do the same and bring them down. there are better girls out there that will charge you less. And for those of you that think I am a BSer,Let me know and I will show you that what I say is true. Unless you are afraid to be seen in Nogie with a walking dead man

By Azpartyboy on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 09:18 pm:  Edit

regarding Baby and the guy obsessed with her. He and everyone is paying for sex. She likes his money and thats it. He should know the drill. We go there for many reasons, some can't get any in the states, so just dont want to deal with the crap that goes along with it but lets not fool ourselves. One other comment I keep reading of how to get a BBBJ and who does it. I would stay clear of them. I will be sticking to hand jobs myself. You can never be to carefull. I'm sure there is a lot of stuff down there that I don't want. More power to you Baby, make money and tell it like it is.

By Dragoncelt1 on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 07:53 am:  Edit

one walking dead man.....two walking dead men....whats it matter...no problem Papa c..I'm not afraid to be seen with you.Sorry I had to pass last night maybe the next time down you can show me.

By Griff on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 12:54 am:  Edit

Papa C, NAME THE TIME, NAME THE PLACE!!

Griff

By Phoenixguy on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 08:27 pm:  Edit

Saw this writeup about HIV in Nogales today: http://www.diariodelafrontera.com.mx/Historial/122031b2.htm

Not meaning to encourage foolish behavior, but in a nutshell it says they detected 14 cases of HIV in Nogales this year - not a single one of them among the 600 workers in the city's sex biz who have been tested to get health cards.


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