New Zealand might sound like a small boring country at the end of the world but it's populated with sensational women.

Auckland is filled with massage parlours and for about US 60.00 you can end up with a model 18-22 year old beauty.

Recommend Pelican Club and Femme Fatale in Auckland but there are many more which you'll find listed in the Truth newspaper ( 8 pages of whores) genuinely available.

Particularly recommend the local part Maori, part kiwi girls who like to play and will do their best to literally fuck your brains out.

The Pelican Club in Auckland has over 100 girls and if you hit the beginning of the nightshift at 6.30 you won't forget it.

FYI Christchurch (on the south island) also has a huge contingent of working girls. Stay away from the strip clubs- they're rip offs like everywhere else. Tons of massage parlors and out-call girls, though, and I was impressed with the overall quality.

Question about New Zealand as it may be on my menu for July this year. I have heard the pickings are good but as far as the rate I am in doubt. It seems 60.00 U.S. gets a parlour session, at least that is what I glean from the posting but can anyone supply info on a long term rate? Thank you team.

I recall paying about 100 US for an outcall girl to come to my hotel in Christchurch. Lasted 1 hour.

I was in New Zealand a couple of years ago, and mongered in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. I could not believe the number of brothels in Christchurch, especially given the relatively small size of the city.

NZ was a bargain, as one US dollar bought two NZ dollars. At the time I paid between $50-75 US for sessions (the $75 was for a slinky brunette who was actually the receptionist at the massage parlor I visited; I convinced her to go with me, a story which is easily my most humorous and unique mongering experience). None of the sessions were LT.

There were a lot of Thais working at the time, so my time was split between the Thais and the Kiwi's. Never found a half-Kiwi/half-Maori working girl, but some I saw on the streets were quite appealing.

New Zealand is an overlooked but fantastic destination for the monger. The dollar is about half that of the US so everything hobbyist activities included is half price.

Femme Fatale is one of many such places in the city and has just been renovated. Not only the building but the stable of girls, about 100 of them from 18 up.

Yesterday visited to find a selection of about 20 girls available at midday. Picked a young strawberry blonde cutie with a body you'd pay just to view on a porn site. But forUS $70.00 you get the works. (the choice was difficult thre were several there I'd rate and hell I'm just back from Argentina and the selection here's about the same).

Her name was Heidi, 18 years old and in her own words someone who just loves sex. A session involved full kissing, BJ with condom and sex any way you can think of.She's been working there for 3 weeks and her best quote was "funny the more sex I have, the more I want." 3 weeks ago she was straight out of school selling vacuum cleaners so if anybody knows something about sucking..

Strangely enough they've been advertising the new rooms there but I can't remember the room at all.

Femme Fatale is just one of the many places in Auckland. They're all listed in the Truth Newspaper on Friday and you can truly have a good time trawling through them.

It's funny, to me, imagining visiting New Zealand as opposed to imagining visiting Bangkok (for example). I don't know what it is -- some kind of ingrained prejudice I have, I guess -- but the thought of paying for sex with a girl who reminds me of someone I went to High School with (although titillating) makes me feel like a loser.

It seems that, if she's white, middle-class, English-speaking, from a developed Western nation, somehow it's no longer an "international experience" in which I am involved in "multicultural sharing" and am simply "being a natural man." Instead, somehow it changes in my imagination into me being "unable to get a date" and it all becoming quite dirty.

I don't know why. It must just be some sort of resistance I have. I feel similarly about the walk-up type arrangements readily available in London, for example -- I just can't bring myself to do them. But the cheaper, trashier settings of Amsterdam's red-light sections, with the fishbowl-viewing and the girls from all countires -- that excites me, and makes me somehow think of it as "legitimate" rather than "fodder for losers only."

Anyone else have similar prejudices and problems they'd like to share? Or at least links to the New Zealand ladies? :-P

"It seems that, if she's white, middle-class, English-speaking, from a developed Western nation, somehow it's no longer an "international experience" in which I am involved in "multicultural sharing" and am simply "being a natural man." Instead, somehow it changes in my imagination into me being "unable to get a date" and it all becoming quite dirty."

Come on Book Guy. You mean we are all paying foreign women because we can't get anyone "normal" in our own countries? Do you suppose these women in BKK, Rio, Cuba, CR, etc all know what Pathetic Losers we are in real life?

Tell the truth. Do you really care one way or another anymore? I mean, if there was a magic lamp with a genie inside waiting for you and your 3 wishes would you waste one on becoming Mr. Stud USA? Suppose you could have just only one wish and it was either to become super attractive to any and all American chics or you could have access to an equal number of foreign women who would find you charming, sexy, and loving? Dumb question, right?

I admitted it was a prejudice, and didn't try to defend it, and spoke in a tone that bemoaned it initially. Now you're lambasting me for it. What part of my post didn't you understand?

"It's funny, to me, imagining visiting New Zealand as opposed to imagining visiting Bangkok (for example). I don't know what it is -- some kind of ingrained prejudice I have, I guess -- but the thought of paying for sex with a girl who reminds me of someone I went to High School with (although titillating) makes me feel like a loser."

Lambasting? No way. I'm just kidding around with you. Your point about seeing certain women as exotic while others are only representations of past failures made me smile. I know exactly what you are talking about.

My first real successes in the paying world came long after I had started. It took some Korean staffed local AMPs to provide a place where I could walk in and feel totally at ease with what was about to happen. I guess this is a racist attitude in a way but since I knew for a fact that none of them were going to judge me as a man but solely as a (round eyed) customer any feelings on my part of having to compete for the woman's love and affection, if that's the right way to express it, were completely gone.

Once you arrive at a point where you don't need the woman, or all women if that's the case, because of whatever else you have available, then you are suddenly free from worrying about how she sees you. Does that make sense?

I am betting that a large number of guys who prefer foreign destinations are taking that route because they know, regardless of all the talk about GFE and what not, they are not going to be dealing with any sort of a normal relationship. And as such, they can relax from all the BS that accompanies virtually any interaction between themselves and females in their own society. Not only is there going to be no rejection from the women but neither is there going to be any unhappy or unflattering comparisons between these foreign women and the ones of their past experiences.

Again, I don't know if this makes any sense. It's after 1PM, all the pills I take before bed kicked in hours ago, and I feel like I am slightly disconnected from whatever is being written here.

"Lambasting? No way. I'm just kidding around with you." Yeah, I know, I was kidding right back.

"Once you arrive at a point where you don't need the woman, or all women if that's the case, because of whatever else you have available, then you are suddenly free from worrying about how she sees you. Does that make sense?"

Oh yes indeed. As the Taoists evidently say, all unhappiness is rooted in the lack of fulfillment of desire (most Westerners misquote the Koan as, "Desire is the source of all unhappiness," leaving out the "lack of fulfillment" part and missing the point). Or, to put it differently, when you ain't desperate, they want you.

"I am betting that a large number of guys who prefer foreign destinations are taking that route because they know, regardless of all the talk about GFE and what not, they are not going to be dealing with any sort of a normal relationship. And as such, they can relax from all the BS that accompanies virtually any interaction between themselves and females in their own society. Not only is there going to be no rejection from the women but neither is there going to be any unhappy or unflattering comparisons between these foreign women and the ones of their past experiences."

This is certainly part of it. But there's another thing going on for me ... probably related, but also slightly different. For me, it's the capacity for verbal communication, plain and simple. I want to be able to snort, grunt, and growl with her, but I DO NOT want to have a political discussion. Maybe my overly zealous verbal nature, in almost all waking moments, is something I need a rest from, and maybe it's the thing that is hampering my civilian relationships and "forcing" me to find sexual gratification only by means of paying for it.

Because yes, it's true, I feel "driven" to providers and to the hobby, and not that I have "chosen" it. If I COULD get laid as well or easily by civilians, I WOULD, and so, to answer an earlier question of yours, I think in many ways I would indeed choose being super-stud over many other life goals. You asked:

"Tell the truth. Do you really care one way or another anymore? I mean, if there was a magic lamp with a genie inside waiting for you and your 3 wishes would you waste one on becoming Mr. Stud USA? Suppose you could have just only one wish and it was either to become super attractive to any and all American chics or you could have access to an equal number of foreign women who would find you charming, sexy, and loving?"

Since I somehow perceive that my unhappinesses in life mostly stem from my lack of studliness with the women, I think I WOULD "waste" one wish on becoming the ideally desired partner. I'm sure there'd be concomitant griefs and logistical difficulties (but heck, it's a hyphothetical question anyway, so who cares!?), but I sense somehow that "if only" I could get laid more often and be more sexually satisfied, then I'd be free to MOVE ON from this obsession with being a sexual stud, and MOVE ON from this need to secure civilian partners, and actually start ahead with my life.

I feel stunted in my growth. If only I could get a decent girlfriend, instead of having to work to pay for providers, and instead of having to put in the effort of learning all that charm bullshit just to fool attractive women into acting like hominids, I'd have so damned much time on my hands I'd probably be able to cure cancer, solve homelessness, feed the starving in India, and launch a safer Space Shuttle. As it stands, I can't do good stuff cuz I'm so busy just trying to keep my little head satisfied.

Sad but true. And the New Zealand thing just points it out to me all over again ...

New Zealand is relatively cheap but the quality of girl or experience is far from the GFE you get in Cuba Dominican Rep or any where in Asia.
However for a specific niche service it's quite good, I like a good titty fuck as it's relatively
safe with out a condom & besides nothing like blowing your load between two huge melons.
Natasha an mature indian lady who advertises in the Truth (a local mongers paper) as "mature indian lady in lingere" is very hard to confirm a booking with but after the occasional call & attempt at booking for about 12 months finally
I hooked it up. "big grins"
Now she ain't much to look at but has fantastic tits with an exceptional titty fuck bare back blow job service. I have had whores from Thailand,
Filipinos, Black White Australian & American, she is by far thye very best titty fuck I have ever had & for $80 for the hour (I came twice) it's niche satisfaction heaven.
well woth a visit if thats what your into.

fearwax

I think I agree with Fearwax here. I prefer mongering in Thailand (love those Thai girls and GFE!) but you can't get a good titfuck to save yer life there. I had three different ladies in three different parlours in Auckland do me right that way. Sometimes, that's exactly what I'm looking for. (I'm sure there's something deep-seated there, and I could spend three years in analysis with a shrink to fix it. Or I can spend a fraction of that money and just indulge. Duh... :-)

I heard on the Rush Limbaugh radio show that New Zealand's Govt. is attempting to advertise their possition as the worlds best prostitution site. Limbaugh was of course poking fun at it; but alledgedly New Zealand loves their red-zones....

Now, dumb questions - maybe I should just go and find out???? 1) Englisgh speaking people? 2) Visa required? 3) Flight hours from LA ?

Im still leaning to going to Pattaya Thiland for a vacation.

Having read these posts, I can't help wondering why it makes a person a loser to have paid for sex anyway, whether with a white girl or an asian. I have paid for sex more times than I can remember, I don't have any hangups over doing, and I don't think it makes anyone a loser any more than buying a coffee in preference to making your own does. I know that I may be rationalising the whole thing, but as long as it works.

I'll confess I strongly prefer Asian women myself--and I'm the type of person who guiltily feels that he must be a racist for even saying that. But, let's face it, as a group Asian women treat us better--nicer, not as cold a deal, like she's really into it (when of course she's just earning her living), even with respect. While American women sometimes act like they're not even sure why they're there.

My favorite personal story is what happened in Honolulu with a white free-lance escort. She couldn't stop talking about her boyfriend--who was in the Marines--the entire time! I almost had to yank her back to the time-and-place we were in. I suppose I should have kicked her out, and kept my money--but I was horny, and only had one night in the city.

I have never been treated like that by a Filipina or Chinese woman.

Scotsman,

This is why I love the PI so much. The girls are not the top of the crown in terms of hard bodies and blonde hair, but their attitude and hunger make them the top choice for the money, for me.

Cambodia is the best screw for the $, and Jakarta girls of Singapore blood have the nicest bodies IMHO, but like you, I favor the attitudes of the PI girls, who know how to treat a man. Best of all, they don't try to be feminist pigs. That by itself is almost reason enough to get the hell out of the US for awhile.

are any of the above discussion thread contributors a native kiwi like me?

When a Kiwi tells you he's been screwed by a cop, you have to ask him for more details. . . .

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Policewoman who worked as prostitute 'censured'

UPDATED 2.35pm Thursday July 20, 2006

A policewoman who worked as a prostitute to ease financial difficulties has been censured, Deputy Commissioner Lyn Provost said today.

Earlier police had confirmed the officer was based in the Auckland City district and was still in the force.

A source revealed to the Wairarapa Times-Age that the officer involved was a female who had earlier this year sought a second job because of financial problems.

The nature of the employment had come to the attention of authorities within the force in the past month, the source said.

Mrs Provost said this afternoon: "The officer concerned has been counselled. Under police procedures this amounts to a censure.

"I can assure the public that police have acted properly in this matter and that this type of secondary employment would never be approved given that the type of work is inappropriate and incompatible with policing."

Mrs Provost said she believed that commonsense dictated that the vast majority of police staff simply knew that sex work and policing were incompatible.

Jon Neilson, police media communications manager, earlier confirmed that a serving police officer had worked "for a limited time" as a prostitute.

Mr Neilson would not say when or where the officer had worked as a prostitute as these were "matters confidential between the employer and employee".

Applications for "secondary employment" were handled "on a case-by-case basis" and incompatibility of additional work with policing would be considered.

Police Minister Annette King said the matter was an internal police employment issue and it was inappropriate for her to make further comment.

John Saunders, executive assistant to the minister, said the ministry had known of the matter for some time.

An Auckland spokeswoman for the New Zealand Prostitutes' Collective said that depending on the parlour in which she worked, the police officer could earn $500 on a Friday night

Asked if she'd heard of other police officers moonlighting as sex workers, she said: "We have law students that are sex workers, we have doctors that are sex workers, I mean anyone can be a sex worker."

Police secondary employment rules needed tightening following the case, NZ First law and order spokesman Ron Mark said.

Mr Mark said the matter raised questions about the vetting of police recruits and the protocols regarding serving officers who apply for secondary employment.

He said he would seek explanations from Ms King and Police Commissioner Howard Broad, "so there is a clear understanding for both the police and the public".

He added: "My concern is the association of criminal or gang with prostitution. It is commonly known that organised crime and gangs have a large investment in massage parlours and brothels right throughout the country. They always have had, and clearly always will have.

"There is the very real possibility that a police officer could be quietly moonlighting as a prostitute and under threat of being found out, to be subjected to extortion or demands to provide information or turn a blind eye to criminal activities."

He added: "I know a hell of a lot of police officers who struggle with the cost of living in Auckland but they don't all rush out and become prostitutes."

- WAIRARAPA TIMES-AGE, NZHERALD STAFF, NZPA