I hope that all the hype that I have been hearing about Montreal is true. I originally had planned to spend August 30 thru September 10 in T.J., but changed my mind, and I am now going to Montreal. Part of what changed my mind is my other interest, baseball. I am an Atlanta Braves fan and they will be in Montreal for 4 games during that time frame. Philadelhia will also be there for four games. I will miss seeing Tony G. playing his last games. I know I will also miss A.B. and C.C. and my amiga especial. Too late now, I have already bought my airline tickets through Priceline.

Avltourist-It no hype! Given the choice, I perfer Montreal. 1) Communications is easier. 2) You get to use your hotel rooms and not a hole in-the-wall. 3) You get one hour(that's 60 minutes). 4) Most ladies enjoy doing their job. 4) No problems from TJ cops or bandits. 5) The prices are cheaper per hour! It true that you don't get to check the ladies out before the deal but I have never had to send any back. I like beauty and personnality. I do recommend that you read up on the Canbest and look on the Montreal spreadsheet for recommendations. They are usually right on the money. You can also see some of the agencies wedsite for photo of the ladies. Montreal is hard to beat. Please give us a report when you get back.

Kojak, Great Information, You mention Montreal has the younger and better looking ladies then the ladies in TJ. What about the ladies in Vancouver, similar or a close 2nd? Can you recommend using the outcall service and checking out the massage places?
thanks

I was in Vancouver six weeks ago. With the exchange rate being about 0.65 US to the Canadian dollar and the women charging $150 to $200 for an hour it was more expensive than TJ, but with the added dimensions of a nice variety of Asians, Europeans, etc.

I exclusively went to women who had their own place and massage places. It was great. I can not contrast it to Montreal, as I have not mongered there. However, Vancouver is a great place to monger.

I suggest you buy a newspaper there called "Buy-Sell", they also have a free web site at something like buysell.com. Also, look at terb.com (Toronto Escort Review Board), they will direct you to verb (Vancouver Escort Review Board).

Happy Mongering,

El_Tecolote

Reefrider - I've been to Vancouver three/four times and for me it doesn't compare. There are not as many escort agencies there. If you read WWW.canbest.com, you'll see not much is said about Vancouver compare with Montreal. It is much harder to get good service in Vancouver. Also it cost much more for the same thing! In addition, something special about those French gals.

Reefrider - I got a OK session at an Oriental Massage place in Richmond. Never called an agency. Saw a lady from the stript joint and it was terrible.

For those of you who want a quick rundown on just about all of the agencies in Montreal (with fairly accurate descriptions of the ladies), here is my resource:

http://www.sexwork.com/montreal/spreadsheet.html

Enjoy.

Kick Stand

Since Montreal isn't covered on any threaded board, I thought I'd create this discus thread for general questions.

I'll be in Montreal for an overnight visit next week, and hope to sample some of the local pleasures while I'm there. I've done some research (www.canbest.com and the Montreal escort spreadsheet), and I must say I'm surprised/impressed at the "scene" here. I had no idea... it's probably the closest international destination, mileage-wise, for me.

For those who have been there... does the scene slow down during the colder months (like now)? And is Monday night a bad night to be there? I noticed that one of the premier escort agencies (Asservissante) is closed on Mondays.

I'll report back with full details of my visit, and if I can gather enough information to do so, I'll also write up a Montreal vs. Tijuana comparison.

Meanwhile, I gotta go work on my French...

No, the scene does not slow down Winter is part of the course of day-to-day living.

Farside - I wouldn't write a Montreal vs. TJ unless you want to be on someone hit list. Some people are way too sensitive about the favorite city!

If you read Canbest.com then you have a lot of info on the girls already. There are no bad nights. Some girls don't work on weekends so they can go out and have some fun. You won't have problems finding girls for monday. Try some of the independents too. Stay near downtown because most of the agencies operate more in that area. Those French girls enjoy sex almost as much as the Brazilian girls.

Thanks for the info, Citydude and Kojak. You're really whetting my appetite here.

Yeah, I'm staying downtown. I've actually been to Montreal before, so I'm familiar with the area, but I wasn't able to partake in lewd pursuits that time.

I'll only write the comparison vs. TJ if I feel I can give a fair shake to Montreal, which may not be possible after spending 12 hours there.

But even so, it will be interesting to see how this longtime, diehard TJ defender's opinion changes after finally getting a chance to try another location.

By all accounts, Montreal is very underrated on this board.

What do you mean underrated? Go Canadiens...

Farsider,

Does this mean there's a possibility of us having a Canadian "fishing trip" next summer?

Scope out possible locations for ECHO 5 when you're there too!

Enjoy and report!

Farside - I have contact info on Coralie and Gabrielle. Let me know if you want it. They are both independents with great service. Coralie has a playboy model body and Gabrielle with a cute girl next door body. Coralie charges $200 CND/hour and Gabrielle charges $150CND/hour.

You can read about them in the independent section of Canbest. Gabreille just came back from France this summer.

Athos... good one! I guess I better leave my Flyers jersey at home...

Bill.. ECHO 5 in Montreal, now there's a thought!

Kojak... beleive it or not, I have info on both already. My "possibilities" list at this point is way longer than I can squeeze into 12 hours. But they're both on it... thanks for the recommendation.

Farsider - You're welcome. Coralie is one of the prettiest I met in Montreal and Gabreille is one of the sweetest. You can't help but have a great time there. In the summer is nicer because you can sit at an outdoor cafe and watch the girls go by. They dress very sexy and don't wear much makeup. The underground mall is a good place to walk around and get some food between outcalls. You are going to love having the ladies delivered and having fun in your own hotel room. The only negative is that you don't get to see the ladies before hand unless it is a repeat.

Have fun and let us know how your trip goes.

Montreal is a great city - from the middle of May until early October, that is! Great food, great scenery, tons of woman, legal mongering and only one hour from DC, 45 minutes or less from New York or Boston.

Here's a few pics from this afternoon.


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Photo: Kate 1
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Hey guys.

I've reviewed some of the threads on Montreal, but they are fairly old. Can I get and update?

I've decided to accept a position in the Boston area and I will be relocating there later this fall. Though this puts me further from my favorite mongering grounds (mostly Panama/sometimes Mexico), I see that the Canadian border is not that far away from Boston (as the crow flies)?

I am a seasoned mongerer having mongered in the PI, Mexico and Panama (over 20-years experience)...but I am just a newbie when it comes to the far north.

I hear P4P is legal, or "semi-legal" in Canada? Can someone clarify this?

I'd appreciate too, feedback on what is the best way for me to travel to get to the mongering grounds around Montreal from the Boston area? Though the two cities look relatively close on the map...anybody know how many hours drive it would take me via car?

Curious too if there are any good places to get laid just across the border without requiring that I drive all the way into Montreal? Perhaps similar to Mexico, is there any action in the Canadian border towns SE of Montreal (closer to Boston)?

I'd also like to know what is the current P4P rates? Consider that sometimes my tastes are fickle...at one time I may be willing to pay a higher premium for 8, 9 or 10s. Yet, at other times, I may be happy just busting a nut with a cheaper average 5 or 6 lay. (Please show me it all). What is cheap, reasonable and expensive?

Any warnings about places to avoid, or solid recommendations of places to visit?

What is the attitude of the women in Canada towards us white non-Canadian Americans? Do they love us? Hate us? Screw us over, if they get the chance?

And places to stay. I prefer to stay in cheaper (safe/clean) hotels. Can I find anything okay for $30 - $75/night?

I appreciate any advice and leads.

Thanks.

AJ

Whoa! Too many questions, Alecjamer. Yeah, Boston is kinda close to Montreal. It's about five hours driving time but a reasonably quick commuter flight. There's LOTS of action in the city. There are other sites that detail all your options; a bit of web research will provide more specific info for you.

Prostitution is legal, so there are quite a few agencies with quite a range of girls. The reports from the last couple of years are pretty accurate as far as how things are since not much has changed (other than specific recommendations, but even plenty of those girls are still working).

The cheaper agencies are around the $150 mark. Expect to pay 180 to 200 for some of the more professional agencies. Quality and looks at both levels range from mediocre to fantastic.

As far as attitude, like most of the free world they think Bush is a total butt-head (to say nothing of the government) but have nothing against any individual US citizen. In other words, you'll enjoy yourself in the company of most any Quebecoise babe.

Can't help ya on the hotels, though.

I love Montreal but with the Canadian dollar as strong as it is, Canada has gotten expensive. It was around US$0.89 - $1.00 Canadian recently, so no real discount in going there. The only thing illegal in Quebec is pimping and to a certain extent working the street, but escorts are basically legal.

As far as anything else, would you pay $30 a night for a hotel in Boston? I'm not sure exactly what you're thinking but Canada is about the same as the US. The ketchup is much sweeter and the A1 sauce is too, but other than that what we have here is what they have. Same hotel chains, same pretty much everything. And now, at pretty much the same prices as here, just with better service and no LE issues.

Alec, when you come to beantown, buy a bike, and I'll take you on a cruise up to the fair city of montreal. Bout 5 hours driving the speed limit, little more whith the traffic conjestion getting over the bridge just before montreal.


As cat said, everything is legal except street solicitation for the most part. I'm white, so I can't comment on that question. There are a few border bars, but quality can be quite iffy, cheap hotels-- dunno I stay at the courtyard usually, but rates are just a tad higher than what you mentioned for downtown pads.

i'm being sarcastic when I said a "tad higher" btw.

Thanks for the inputs. Sorry for asking so many questions up front...but eventually I'd ask them all anyway.

Flying to Montreal seems to be the best to do a weekend...fly-up Friday and return Sunday...or maybe during a holiday weekend...even better.

Don - I guess I'll have to tune-up the Road King. A 5-hour ride up and 5 back is about the max for me. I rode my bike from Seattle to Ohio one time. Did the trip in 2-days. Needless to say, I prefer shorter trips.

I have no idea about pricing hotels in Canada. I don't need plush...yet I do need clean and secure. Just give me a bed, a/c in the summer or heat in the winter, hot shower, TV and phone and I am just fine. I could give a rat's ass about a chocolate on my pillow for an extra $75/night.

AJ

For a hotel, you're probably best off with the Chablis. Not exactly downtown, but you're not exactly coming here for the architecture, are you?

If I can spend 10+ hours in the saddle on my sport bike, u should be abl eto hadle 5 on a road king + its a beautiful ride thru vermont.

wombat, I've always stayed downtown. I assume incall is a little harder to arrange when outside of montreal proper?

If you are not in downtown Montreal, they will charge extra or may be unavailable. Even Verdun is considered too far, so forget about staying out by the airport. Most Americans wouldn't stay in East Montreal due to the lack of English, and South Shore and Laval aren't options either.

The hotel Wombat linked in is pretty far from the action, although funny enough, one of the few full-service Russian MPs is pretty close to there on Rue Notre-Dame Oeste.

My advice on Montreal is always the same - stay downtown in the hotel chain of your choice. I usually stay at one of the Marriott properties, in fact I've stayed at every one of them in Montreal over the last five years. If you're not a Marriott fan every other chain is available, with the same prices variances and options as in the US. I usually use the Metro a lot, so being close to stop is key. You probably will want a car, though, to get out and see the city - it's a huge island.

There are good restaurants all over, so you wont' be far from good eats wherever you stay, but another aspect is incall entertainment. A lot of the incall action is downtown as well, although there is quite a bit of incall on the South Shore as well. The half-dozen or so clubs where you can go in and pick up a working girl are downtown as well, and the street walkers are all along Ontario and St. Catherines on the east side of St. Laurent. Thats where a lot of the strip clubs and lap-dance handjob/jackoff places like Pussy Corps are too. The swing clubs are spread out, but again, either downtown or a little north of there. Massage places are all over.

It just depends on each guy's style. I like to have outcalls to my hotel and to go to massage places where the Eastern European girls give great massages and pretty good happy endings. I don't do much incall anymore, and have never picked up a street walker or the girls (older units in general) working the clubs. I also love the restaurants in Montreal and could spend all day roaming around the Old City and the Westmont area looking at houses and everything.

However, as long as the Looney is as strong as it is now, Montreal will be out of my rotation. I was last up in August and do love the place, but the prices are sky high right now.

Actually, the Chablis is quite well known to the various agencies on the island -- and no, you won't pay a premium for the girl or the room. This is the hotel where the married guys meet the local talent without alerting nosy neighbors. The Chablis caters to an adult market and is very discreet (not to mention that they rent rooms for short time stays).

Prostitution is illegal anywhere in Canada. There are lots of street walkers in any large city, and then there are the agencies and massage parlours. The police normally only bust Johns that pick up street walkers as you may get an undercover cop and have to go to John School. In Montreal I would recommend staying at Hotel de la Montagne (514) 288-5656 address 1430 rue de la Montagne. This hotel is dead centre of the entertainment district. Behind the hotel is Cresant Street where there are lots of clubs and bars. Also strip clubs whithin walking distance. The main advantage is the two night clubs in the hotel. Upstairs is a cougar bar hard not to get laid in there. Downstairs is the disco mostly 30-50 age range with some Philipina nannies. I have always got laid free in these clubs. The bar is called Thursdays.

what the fuck you talking about willis?????

Outcall is perfectly legal throughout Canada. Windsor Ontario requires a license requirement under the Windsor by-law.

Incall is illegal throughout Canada because it is illegal to operate or be found in a "bawdy house" or a place where prostitution is the main business. An incall location would qualify as a brothel for purposes of the law, and is not permitted even though the same business can be done on an outcall basis

Drove up to Montreal last weekend for a night to look around. Getting into Canada is about as pleasant as getting into North Korea. I recommend you take a back road that has a lame checkpoint.

There really are strip joints along the roads, but I have not checked the offers there. Montreal has many strips joints and massage parlors. I had a 2 hour session at Massage Adagio for 280CAN. That is about 240US -- the dollar has gotten stronger. It is worth paying 10CAN extra for the jacuzzi, but the service is sub-par. You get to touch and kiss her body but no full service or kissing. She gives you a hurried hand job at the end.

I'll try the escorts next. Given the stronger dollar, it may be a decent deal for a weekend shot. Canada is no replacement for Rio, as you might have guessed.

The border circus on the way back was just as bad. Only the barbed wires are missing.

Well, most massage places in Montreal should run you about C$80, plus C$40 for tip for a handjob. That would be for a little over an hour, usually Eastern European girls or English Canadian. There's a wide variety, sounds like you picked a clip joint.

Did you do any research on MERB or MERC before going? Montreal is excellent for mongering, I may head up next week for 3-4 days since the Looney just dropped to 80 cents or so.

The best girls in Montreal are the French Canadian escorts. The best agencies are
www.eleganzaescorts.com
www.montrealgirlsonfire.com
www.montrealxxxtase.com
www.devilishescorts.com
www.montrealsexcity.com

All of these agencies provide GFE (bbbj/dfk/daty). CIM is very common as well. My favorite agency is Eleganza, they have the most stunners that give the best service, but it can be hard and tricky to book with them. I highly recommend Montreal to all of you, these agencies that I listed charge 160-200 per FULL hour (msog), a lot of the rip off agencies will be pop and go or upsellers.

I go up there every few months and I'm in NYC. Use priceline to book your hotel rooms for additional discounts.

What the..$240 for no full service? What's the point? You can get FS in San Francisco for less than that. BTW there is an initiative on the Nov. ballot in San Francisco that would prevent police from charging anyone for prostitution, girls or guys. If it passes (I'm not holding my breath) S.F. will be monger friendly (it sort of already is but this would make it legal under the law).

I just finished reading a vintage Montreal TR from Farsider on another site, circa 2004. He described getting the full blown GFE services from French Canadian escorts described by Infanticide for $60 per hour just 4 years ago....inflation and weak dollar compared to 2004, but strong service from beautiful young women.

BTW, Farsider also had nightmare border crossings both ways. The answer to that I assure you are not secondary road border crossings. The customs inspectors are bored at those crossings and will go over your car and question you with the closest scrutiny and worst attitude.

Re SF Decriminalization: Bbig12, see my posts on the Mexico chat board. This is about decriminalization as the city of SF can't legalize a crime under state law. The state may choose to enforce prostitution laws in SF if the city refuses (similarly to how the feds close down medical marijuana clinics legal under California law). IMO this has no chance to pass because it unwisely includes street prostitution in its protections.

Your right about Calif state being able to prosecute, but what state agency would be responsible for enforcing the law? I doubt Calif Highway patrol will get into the vice business, so if that passes it would make SF a viable mongering destination, other than Nevada. I really hope this passes, although I wouldn't go out of my way to head up to SF for that.

160-200 cdn right now is 128-160 usd... let the canadian dollar tank some more, the Montreal girls are stunners.