No Paper, No Plastic, Will Girls Take Coins???

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By Twoweekslate on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:13 am:  Edit

the class i took in Bangkok really didn't help me. When i went around to apply for the higher paying teaching jobs they actually frowned upon it. if you do not have a degree it can help you but i have a graduate degree, great references and a lot of experience.

i landed a job in Bangkok two months ago and have moved to the On Nut area off of Sukhumvit paying 8000 a month for my place. it looks like a hotel, brand new and right next to the BTS! now i have cash flow but before that, funds were VERY low!

if you know your way around Thailand you could get a plate of Pad Thai for 30 baht. you could also buy the same dish at a fancy place for 500 baht. i was eating 30 baht meals and re-filling my water bottles for 3 baht at water stations. but i still went after girls!

while in Bangkok, i like to go to Nana. some of the bars have an upstairs short time room which is convenient. i also stayed a few buildings down at Dynasty Inn (www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnBangkok.htm). it was the first place i ever stayed in my first time in the Land Of Smiles. about 1300 a night with free wi-fi. i NEED good wi-fi.

i forget the name of the bar but when you walk in Nana Plaza go towards the right up the escalator and the first bar there is where i have pulled some girls. this is Phu and Na.

Photos: Na - Mandarin 14 15
Photos: Phu - Mandarin 16 17

they look young because they were. 19. but i questioned them constantly and checked their id's and checked with their mama-san. 600 bar fine and i tipped 1000 for short time. Bangkok girls ask for more than the Pattaya girls. maybe i could have given less but after negotiations this is what we agreed on before hand. initially they asked for much more!

i began to explore the soapies in Bangkok before i met a special girl (more on that later). there is an area off of the Ratchadaphisek stop on the MRT. i only had one taste so far at the Nataree Entertainment Massage. prices run like Pattaya. 1700 and a small tip.

Photo: Ae - Nataree 18

i have been living in Bangkok for two months now. at first i lived in the Chatuchak area which was near the Mor Chit Bus Station. from there it was a two hour ride to Pattaya for 121 baht. not a bad deal. i would go hunting at Soi 6 at times during the day. these girls, Bia and Nah are from Quicky Bar.

Photos: Bia - Quicky Bar 19 20
Photo: Nah - Quicky Bar 21

been with Nah a few times. it's just as the bar's name suggests. a quicky. good times. good times! haha.

but like i said earlier, i met a special girl. this is just a story and i will not post pictures of her but this is what happened or is happening. let me start by quoting, "there are no happy endings in Pattaya." i met Ti in Pattaya late last year as i was going to school. we locked eyes and picked each other. the first few nights were cool but i was kind of spending a lot of time with Nam. eventually that changed. i spent a lot more time with Ti.

Ti might be one of the most beautiful girls i have ever been with. was i smitten? yes. was i thinking straight? no. it evolved slowly. i would go to school in Bangkok then see her on the weekends. the calls and texts and emails came everyday. when i went back home to the states it continued. when i got the job in Bangkok, i saw her regularly again. she has come to stay with me a few times. where is this going? i met her dad! i met her mom! i spent time taking care of her brother. for Songkran her mom invited me to their hometown. because of work and booked trains and busses i didn't make it. i might have dodged a bullet! going to her hometown is a big deal.

when girls are 25 or older, and they are not hard core bar girls then they start thinking about other options. girls want to take a step up from social standings and farangs (even poor ones like me) is a step up. can you trust them? not completely. will it work? i say 90% of the time it will NOT! so why am i with her? i can't help it. you can say what you want about that.

bottom line. she still is a working girl. i have to be ok with that. during my poor period she let me stay in her room every weekend i came. in the last few weeks, she doesn't even let me give her money. we fight a lot but it's because Thai girls and American guys cannot see eye to eye on things. i thought girls were hard to understand in itself. try layering that with a different culture and religion and habits. we are "friends" but i cannot deny that i am special to her and vice versa.

i left New York to go on a grand adventure! i saw some of the world! decided to live in a country that is torn politically and may see more violence. Ti is another adventure. my contract is for a year. i am making decent money and i will see where this ride takes me! as much as i am crazy over her, i have a good sense and understanding that i should not expect anything from this. i just want to know from you veterans what were your experiences. or have you always kept it professional? have i stopped mongering? i try to be good but she said, "as long as i don't know i can't get mad." hehe. what a thing to say!

By Blazers on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:36 am:  Edit

The girl withe the yellow bow in her hair and white school girl shirt is super hot. Very nice find at SOI 6. Just curious, how much are they paying you monthly as a teacher in BKK and what type of school is it. I also hear that tutoring can land you good extra income.

By Twoweekslate on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:50 am:  Edit

Blazers, i landed a job at an International School. 65,000 baht a month right now. a fraction of a western paycheck but considering most Thais earn 20,000 if they are lucky and the cost of living is as cheap as you like, i am doing well. i can even save. something that was tough in NYC. tutoring can make some extra cash but it is a lot of work. it is easy to get jobs though if you work through an agency. they will take a share.

the girl in the white school girl shirt is Bia. a very good time! Quciky Bar on Soi 6. the girl with the hat and the other girl from Quicky Bar wanted the lights off. no fun! here are some other girls from the recent past...

i don't know this girl's name but as i looked at some old reports i saw that someone else had met her too. she's on Soi 6. i forget what the bar name was.

Photo: Soi 6 22

these two are from Windmill Bar on Walking Street. i took them together a few nights and alone on other nights. Windmill has a back room if you guys are interested in a quicky. most of their girls will go only short time before midnight. they have to go back to work after that. you can negotiate with mama-san for long time but if you wait until after 1 then you can take them long time without problems. this is Pom and May. May (without the braces) told me today that she is looking for another job outside of the gogos. they both have kids.

Photos: Pom & May 23 24

this last girl works on Soi 7 at Silver Star. i pulled her because her English was good and we were able to have good conversation and share a lot of jokes. her name is Gan.

Photo: Gan 25

ok. nuff said...

By El_apodo on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 04:07 pm:  Edit

I always laugh when I read about someone looking for a job teaching English when their primary qualification is being a native speaker. With that shingle, you "might" get some tutoring work that can bring a little money in or get a job at a second-rate school that teaches a couple classes of English, but most legitimate international schools will not look at you without a teaching certificate or a master's degree.

Salaries at good international schools vary depending on your qualifications and their location around the world, but many of the best offer benefits in addition to salary (housing, club memberships, retirement plans, etc.) which allows one to save A LOT more money than at a comparable job in the States. The best locations, salary-wise, are schools in the Middle East, some of whom pay salaries equal to what a teacher would make in the States AND include the extra benefits. Of course, school with those salaries also carry the baggage of other issues (political, social, economic) that make life there less desirable.

When you consider in the fact that teachers in the States are losing their jobs at a rate not seen since the Great Depression, you should count yourself lucky to have gotten your job.

Enjoyed your report and am looking forward to your AC chapter.

EA

By Blazers on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:54 pm:  Edit

You can live quite well on that salary in Bangkok, especially if you have a Thai gf. In addition, the first $93,000US is tax free. Lot better than giving half of your money to the US government.

By Don Marco on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 06:16 am:  Edit

"there are no happy endings in Pattaya"

Seems like things turned out OK thus far...

Thanks for sharing and agree w/ Blazers - she was certainly the pick of the litter from the ones posted.

By Erip on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 10:48 pm:  Edit

2Weeks, that is something, really something! I hope you will continue to post further chapters in your adventure wherever it may take you.

By Twoweekslate on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 07:20 am:  Edit

thank you Blazers, el Apodo and Erip. my AC report is coming soon and as i am living in Bangkok, i will do my best to fill in and update what i can on the Thailand scene.

and thank you Don Marco. ok so far but i feel it is the end. somethings changed. she has new friends and new influences and it seems like she is becoming a hard core bar girl now. she's been in the game two years now.

again, we'll see where it goes. i am trying not to put so much energy into it and just have fun but it is different when you move to a new place and don't know the language, the city, with no friends or family and the closest person to you is a working bar girl.

By Lovingmarvin on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 01:31 pm:  Edit

I can relate to how you feel, i.e. "different when you move to a new place and don't know the language, the city, with no friends or family and the closest person to you is a working bar girl.". That is how I felt when I first moved to Rio about 5 years ago...the best thing that happened to me was two years later when I broke up my relationship with a pain-in the ass girlfriend and starting experience life in my new home outside the mongering circle. I have been super happy since and my life is much better now then it has ever been.

Everytime I went to Thailand for vacation I always scratched my head about life existing as a non-monger. Non-working girls seem to be so difficult to find...one way or another they seem to be working. Not my idea of a GF... It just almost never works out.

It takes awhile to feel home in a new country, with different cultures, and ways... Not sure I could ever relate to Thai culture or the girls.

In Rio it took me about 2 years to build a good base of friends and experience life like a typical Brazilian would. 5 years later I have a hard time adjusting back to life outside Brazil, as the culture has become such a part of me. Made many fantastic friends along the way...learning the language certainly helped! I guess that can happen in Thailand, but from all I have heard and read so far it seems to be so much more difficult. Does a traditional non-financial relationship with a Thai girl exist???

By Twoweekslate on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 08:30 am:  Edit

Lovingmarvin, wow! thanks for that man! i appreciate you sharing your experience! as of now, i am in too deep and although she really is a pain, i can't seem to let go yet!

but you have encouraged me! eventually i will build a base of friends here. eventually life will be different. i cannot deny that part of my thinking was to work and get laid whenever i wanted but now i will try to keep the "relationship" out of it.

i know it will take time and i have time with my work contract. i just want to be happy. hmm. next paycheck maybe i should try phukket! hehe.

By Lovingmarvin on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 10:25 am:  Edit

From what I have seen with many mongers (Including myself) that decide to live in their favorite mongering destination is a gradual migration away from steady mongering to a more stable "normal" relationship with a local girl. Getting laid whenever you want, the pay 4 play scene is fun - but for me it got tiring on a full time basis. I still regularly enjoy it - of course - but only a part time basis, even so it is soooo available where I live. In the end, however, I enjoy coming home to my girl!

What I realized with my first GF was that I got so used to all the craziness of that life. I started getting caught up in myself...nothing positive was going to come from it. Just contrary, it started to drag me down... once i realized that and was able to completely break-away from it (Trust me, I was a basket case for awhile but stuck to it) my life started from gradually declining to once again turning to a positive - and now very positive and constructive - direction.

By Twoweekslate on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 07:50 am:  Edit

Lovingmarvin, it seems like the relationship has come to an end. it drove me crazy and i cannot deny that that she still dominates my mind at nights or whenever i am alone which seems to be when i am not working. so i am doing a lot of work.

at least i have closure. we exchanged a last email and it is all cool. i started to go out hunting again and have found some good times but i am keeping it professional. short time exchanges. i have also started to meet some people outside the bar scene. it's pretty tough though to mask the fact that i am a monger from them. i mean 99% of single guys in Thailand are... well, here for a reason!

cheers mate! let me know if you ever come to town.


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