RT here. I often have nothing better to do, so, back in April, I was looking at the ads on Craigs List, and replied to a cryptic ad.

She wrote back in very good English, introducing herself, telling me that she was 25, worked at this for a while all over South America, was intelligent, classy, skilled, and beautiful. To prove the last point, she sent me this picture:



We exchanged emails for a while. She asked for US$300, saying she wasn't an hourly girl. We finally agreed that we would have drinks, dinner and debauchery, with me giving her US$200 in the morning. I figured that if she was as hot as promised, it would be worth it, and I could bail anytime if she wasn't.

Well, my April trip arrives, but no Maysa. No calls, no emails... nada. Nothing really lost, I figured, and I forgot about it.

Two weeks before my June visit, I get an apologetic email from her, asking if we could try again. Sure, I replied, and we set an appointment for a Monday night while I was there. She sent me a few more pictures to whet my appetite:



We met at La Esquina Wine Bar in Miraflores. She's on time, and is the girl in the photos. One problem: She's dressed like a street hooker in Miami... shirt shorts, fishnet stockings. Alarms should be going off, but she's hot, so I ignored them.

We (well, she; I don't drink) have a couple of glasses of wine, and she's pretty much as promised. Smart? Yes. Beautiful? Sure. Skilled? To be determined. Classy? Hardly.

It was an empty bar on a Monday, but she was yelling for the waiter, and generally acting not classy-like. I hit the snooze button on the alarm, and we go to dinner.

We get to a restaurant in Miraflores. It wasn't 4-star fancy, but it was sort of grown up. Again, classy didn't enter into it.. When she saw my camera for the food pictures, she insisted on posing in the restaurant, despite being dressed like a hooker. Here are some of those shots:

Photos: Maysa 01 02 03

I again ignore the alarms going off and we get to my apartment. We shoot some more pictures, make out for a while, and head into the bedroom.

First, she asks me if I am the kind of guy who goes to sleep after sex, or if we can hang and talk some more. Well, it is late, and I wanted to sleep, but I tell her, "Of course we'll hang."

Then, she asks for money. Things come to a halt, and we go back & forth for a half hour. ME: We agreed to $200 in the morning. HER: Girls always get the money up front. ME: Why did you agree otherwise? HER: Girls always get the money upfront.

So I disconnect the alarm totally, and we agree to money on the dresser. We get down to business.

Question four... Skilled? Extremely.

It was great. I'm usually pretty easy to please, but this was great. She knew what she was doing, did it well, and really acted like she was having the time of her life. I even bought into her screams and moans, and that's usually a real turn-off for me.

After we're done marveling at the wonder of it all, she goes to the bathroom, comes out, and I hear her on the phone in the living room.

She comes back into the bedroom and announces that she spoke with her Prima, and there was an emergency, and she had to leave right there and then to rescue her. All this at 4:00 in the morning.

My afterglow disappeared rather quickly. These girls all think that they invented this scam. It got ugly, she insisted that it was the truth, I told her that she was full of shit and a liar, etc. It ended with me telling her to get dressed now and get out. She started with, "all you American guys..." I shut her up, telling her that she was lucky that I was giving her all the money, and that it was worth it to me to get her out of my life.

The tears started. I wasn't having any, and she finally left. Five minutes later, she's back at my door, trying to make another date for Thursday. I had unplugged the alarms, and the sex was awesome, but I threw her out again.

It's a shame, because not only did she throw away repeat business from me, but she has no idea of the amount of PMs I get from guys looking for a hot, English-speaking girl in Lima that knows her way around the sack like she does. She could retire just on the emails I get. And all because she didn't want to hang around another couple of hours and toss me another roll in the hay, that she had agreed to.

She continues to advertise in Craigs List, and perhaps she has learned something, because she replied to a friend of mine four days ago, and offered basically our date (drinks, dinner, sex, but not all night) for US$200. Or maybe not, because I just emailed a reply from a different email account, and here's what she sent me:

Hola,

Thank you for the email,

My rates is 250 dollars per night, not all the night but it can be a beautiful time having dinner enjoying a nice red wine, an interesting conversation, know each other before to have a beautiful and sexy night on bed. 100% preservative, and NO anal sex.

If you are interested, please let me know. Im sending only 2 pics mine, I wont send u more..I hope you can understand

Best regards

Maya

This happens in every country. SA, Asia, Europe. She's a hard pro, looking to turn $200 a few times a night, then maybe passing the cash to her lazy BF.
You'll know you landed a pro when good English, USD pricing, money up-front, etc arises.

Maybe you should of paid half and tell her to earn the other half tomorrow night.

I was in Bangkok this year and met a chic from Maxim magazine at Supperclub. We had drinks the next night and she threw out 20K THB ($600USD). I looked at my Blackberry and said "my buddies in trouble, I'll call you later". I left her on that stool and bailed for a cab.

True, every girl thinks she's the one who invented that scam. I would have sent her into the night with half...

Jonesie; She would have never had the chance to "make" that phone call, with your cell jammer in action. You really would have been able to call bullshit had she come out of the bathroom, telling you that she just talked to her cousin, if you had a jammer working.

RG- The cell jammer probably wouldn't trouble her since the call was faked in the first place.

RT- Those poses from the restaurant are priceless. Classy (NOT) indeed! She's a good looker. Too bad about the rest of the BS you had to put up with. Thanks for sharing this.

I know nothing about lima, so maybe you guys can answer this for me. Why are you taking hookers to nice restaurants for dinner and drinks? Why not just have them come over and suck & fuck for the night?

I have had many gdps in rio want me to take them to expensive ass clubs in Barra Tijuica for a night of dancing and then they will spend the evening with me. As soon as I say "Well the 300R I will spend entertaining you, will come out of your end!" They instantly change their mind and decide they will just come to my place instead. LOL

Thumper asked:

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I know nothing about lima, so maybe you guys can answer this for me. Why are you taking hookers to nice restaurants for dinner and drinks? Why not just have them come over and suck & fuck for the night?

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• Because I like to go to nice restaurants for dinner and drinks. In the overall scheme of things, the extra meal/drinks won't kill me.
• I don't/can't suck & fuck all night, like when I was 20.
• It's nice to be out with a beautiful woman, especially when she's not dressed like a hooker
• Because that's how I enjoy myself, and it's MY vacation

Nothing wrong with taking the girls out and having a good time. I do it often in Rio, if I find a girl I know I'll enjoy chatting with for a few hours. The additional investment (lunch or dinner) almost always pays huge dividends, as the girls will show their appreciation for being treated like something other than a puta.

Of course, it's a whole different matter if (or when) the girl starts asking to be taken here and there. When they start treating me like an ATM, I treat them like a puta--I fuck them and send them on their way.

Well said RT and Bwana_dik. During some visits to Cuba back in the day I'd often take girls out for dinner or to a club for some drinks. After that they'd spend the night and in some cases never asked for an additional fee.

But yes, if they start to take advantage of you it's time to get down to business then send them packing.

Sometimes I like a quick mindless fuck, other times some personal interaction can lead to a better experience in the sack.

RT, it's a shame about this one. She's not too tough on the eyes. Thanks for the heads-up. I know I won't be calling her when I get to Lima next week!

I do this kind of date on a lot of my trips. However, it's always with a girl that I know. I never take them right out on a dinner date during the initial meeting. I like to give them a test drive before moving on to spending more time with them.

My favorite date is have them come over to my hotel in the later part of the afternoon and go to the local race track for a couple of hours (I'm a light betor). This is followed by dinner and then a session in the hotel. I've been to the tracks in Rio, Sao Paulo, Lima, BA, and Bangkok. I've always had fun on these type dates and the sessions afterwards were almost always top notch.

Like RT said everyone is different.

The way you kept drawing attention to ignoring warning signs, I was thinking in the back of my head: she isn't going to turn out to be dude is she? Compared to that a runner isn't so bad.

200/screw is mighty steep regardless unless she shits ice cream.

Gents,

Her looks would be what I like in a gal except:

She's 25, which is at the edge of oldness to me. I find those girls can quickly turn into to women (get it?).

I don't take hookers to eat and or/drink. There was a time that I did but that is long gone. It distracts me from what I really want from the girl.

I don't do all nighters. One of the reasons why I never got married (lol).

AND I don't do more than Cien. Unless a girl is working for an agency that does not negotiate prices, MANY independents will negotiate way lower than 1st asking price. Especially since the time frame is changed. ALL girls are HOURLY girls, just depends on how many hours.

That being said. I would let this girl know that my intentions were short time and when I would be in town and let her decide about the $100 ST. Now this could result in nothing OR if rent time is approaching or a birthday, holiday, she may very well have taken the offer.

Maybe not...but maybe?


Cheers,

Cubanut

RT here. Sorry that I wasn't clear enough, CN.

Everyone is different... we all monger differently. For example, I would never consider staying in a place where the same batch of girls have been passed around throughout the house. Nor would I relish the idea of being immersed in a situation where I was living, eating and drinking with a bunch of mongers 24/7. But I respect the decision of guys that do that. For me, hanging out in another country as if I lived there and finding the girls on my own is part of the fun. But back to your points...

I manage to keep the focus on sex, even if I have eaten with a girl first. But everyone is different.

I like all-nighters. I wish I was one of those guys that could pop, smoke a cigarette, and be ready to go again right away. But I'm not. So all-nighters work perfect for me. But everyone is different.

If I only did short-time, I probably wouldn't fork over more than $100 either, but I often do all-nighters. I paid a girl 15 sols for 20 minutes on this trip as well... my expectations were way different for US$5.28.

In my initial contact with to her, I asked about her hourly rate. She replied that she wasn't that kind of girl, and only did all-nighters. Her original request was for $300. Four emails later, she agreed to $200 in the morning. My bad for not including this info in my original post.

This date appealed to my sense of adventure. That's why I did it. Also, she was hot. But everyone is different. As long as we honestly report on what we did, who we did it with, what we paid, and we disclose any business relationships with any related facilities, it's all good.

RT, I 100% concur with your last sentence.

Beyond my .5 cent on pricing, I would like to add- thanks for sharing the info!

RTGooch,

Just an fyi- I don't smoke AND who better than I to know that EVERYONE mongers differently.

My post was not meant to say that you did anything wrong. I was just thinking (& writing) what I would do if presented with the same situation.

I have NEVER disrespected ANYONE'S mongering habits and this was not a start.


Cheers,


Cubanut

It was a real pleasure reading about your encounter with this chica. Thx RT

Thanks for sharing. I always appreciate it when people post photos.

That said, I hope you didn't fly all the way to South America just for her! I would be interested in hearing about the rest of your trip to Peru. I hope all the women were not like her. Maybe you would have better luck if you learned to speak a little Spanish.

Maysa is not bad looking and I am glad the sex was good. Personally, I prefer a girl with some tits.

As far as the game playing goes, you sure didn't have to fly all the way to South America to get that! LOL! You can certainly find that in Mexico or even right here at home in the "Good 'ol USA" and for a lot less money!

I agree with your comment on the dining out and all nighters. I like to do that myself, if the chica is willing. I actually like it if they dress slutty. The sluttier the better to draw some looks. I kind of get a kick out of the looks other people give us!

But I don't know your situation. You may know a lot of people in the area and are concerned about your reputation.

I would not ask for an all nighter on the first date but I may do it with a chica I know.

Brew:

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I hope you didn't fly all the way to South America just for her! I would be interested in hearing about the rest of your trip to Peru.

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I actually like it if they dress slutty. The sluttier the better to draw some looks. I kind of get a kick out of the looks other people give us! But I don't know your situation. You may know a lot of people in the area and are concerned about your reputation.

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she has no idea of the amount of PMs I get from guys looking for a hot, English-speaking girl in Lima that knows her way around the sack like she does.

There are a lot of guys who travel for business and just want a "date". Think about if someone is paying for your travels, that certainly factors into it. Though "english-speaking" is a turn-off for most of us, others really need it.

As for taking "pros" out for dates -- you win some , you lose some (when it comes to sex).
If I take a girl out for the evening, that is it. I do not give the girl money also. Maybe some transportation money.

I recently took a "pro" out on a "date" in Rio. It was basically a cheap date -- Lapa club entrance for 2, a few drinks and transportation. The girl stayed all night, the next day breakfast, a day at the beach. She then made some dinner for me that evening and stayed the night again. I didn't mind at all spending that much time with her and the sex was fantastic.

In my experience, the best times with girls are the ones that were completely unexpected. If you tried to pay for it -- it would probably would have never went down the way it did.

Dudes wine and dine hookers for the fantasy and emotional stimulation. I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. I like having a for-pretent girlfriend for a day, but we have to click within the first 15 or so minutes of meeting. Sometimes you just have to let your gut instinct decide how far you want to take it with a chica.

RT here. I was cleaning up my hard drive, and I found this video of Maysa. Except for the acting like a whore in public and being a lying tramp, she was a hell of a date.

RT here. She's still out there, but advertising under a different name and with a new, improved pricing structure. Here's her ad today.

I wrote to her, and this was her response:

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Hola,

Thank you for your email me
It is my pleasure to give you all the information you need,

kind of information about me and my work

Rate for 4, 5 hours aprox 300 American Dollars include taxi-- An interesting dinner, enjoying a nice bottle of wine and good talk to know each other better. I love to meet interesting people, share different cultures, languages, about people love to travel, experiences. I like men well educated, polite mature and very gentleman when they are with me. I consider an Lady Companion more than a simple escort. I'm very communicative, mature for my age, I know almost all South America, I had the oportunity to visit and learn about every country, people, thoughs, lifestyles, poor places like the most beautiful places, bars, restaurants, clubs etc

My especiality is ( G-F-E ) OR GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE, a sexual companion and will fullfill your wildest phantasies. I speak english very well, so the language won't be a problem
I only have two rules, NO anal sex and the USE of condoms.
Tell me about your likes, dislikes if you prefer and expectations and how I can make your visit more comfortable. I just need to know the exact time of your arrival to Lima and how long you will want my services and where you want us to meet

After you read this e-mail Please, let me know if you are interested..Or if you have another ideas to share
Im attaching some photos mine (these pictures are real 100%). I hope you like them
I am looking forward to your answer.

Kind regards

Viktoria

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...."Rate for 4, 5 hours aprox 300 American Dollars include taxi-- An interesting dinner, enjoying a nice bottle of wine and good talk to know each other better".....you got to be kidding! Might as well stick to the escort services in the US for those prices, figuring in traveling expenses as well. For $300USD I would want to fuck her as quickly and as often as I could, WITHOUT "an interesting dinner" and a "nice bottle of wine". If I want something interesting, I will read a good book over dinner instead and save the expense of wining and dining her....

I know this thread is about on its last leg, but I have to go back to RT's statement

I would never consider staying in a place where the same batch of girls have been passed around throughout the house. Nor would I relish the idea of being immersed in a situation where I was living, eating and drinking with a bunch of mongers 24/7. But I respect the decision of guys that do that. For me, hanging out in another country as if I lived there and finding the girls on my own is part of the fun

The more I read the Colombia threads the more I so agree with this statement.

Buffer:

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My favorite date is have them come over to my hotel in the later part of the afternoon and go to the local race track for a couple of hours (I'm a light betor).

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Final words;
fact of life is that every experience teaches us some wise lessons, so, is up to us to learn and remenber NOT to repeat them. other than that, sorry that RT Gooch had some misfortunes, better luck next time./

RT,

I think this is the same girl..?
http://www.travelgirls.com/member/926315-Lizzy-Peru-girl/gallery

Yes, Kidceo, that's her.

And one of her other names is indeed Lizzie.

As an aftermath, I posted basically the same thing as here on PeruTops (English section) with the photos after it happened. The discussion that followed told us that -- earlier in her hooker career -- she was doing 100 sol tricks at a massage parlor. They have a strict rule about no face photos of Peruvian girls in that Forum, but I was pissed off, and since I moderate that section, and the Spanish guys don't really read it, her pictures stayed up for quite a while.

One day, some visiting American showed her the PeruTops article and the photos. The next day, the owner of that board received a message from her, calling me despicable, claiming that her mother thought she was a virgin, they were going to throw her out of the monastery, and the RT guy should go to hell. On the way there, he should also delete the post about her. And further, she said, she really, really, really was going to come back the next night. So I blanked out her eye area on the photos, deleted the link to the video and wrote her, saying that the post was not going anywhere... the date was the date, and if she didn't want people to know that she lied to me and ran, she shouldn't have done it. I might have even threatened to bump the thread to the top of the page every week for the rest of my life.

I never heard back from her, though I still see her advertising on many sites. It just pisses me off that some guy read my post, and felt such gratitude for my sharing of information that he showed it to her. It hasn't stopped me from posting pictures (I just take less of them now), but I can understand why some guys are reluctant to share photos.