| By Esteban on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 08:10 pm: Edit |
One recent night in Mexico City.
I've titled the report after a stripper I met in one of the clubs. When she told me her name was Nebraska, I cracked up.
| By Esteban on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 08:13 pm: Edit |
The airport is big. Lots of exchange booths. I exchanged $400 US to 4760 pesos at a rate of 11.90. The pay phones require a special card, the cheapest card is about $3. The recommended taxis are at one of the far ends, with several booths lined up to intercept you. $21 fare to the "safe" Zona Rosa area. The wait outside was about 10 minutes.
At the airport I had tried calling some numbers from www.zonadivas.com/principal.html. Some numbers didn't work, some got an answering machine, and one said I had the wrong number. I would recommend being discrete and confirm the name of the lady speaking, rather than "Hola sexy are you working tonight?". Did get through to one "Emily" who said her rate was 2500 pesos/hour (about $200 US), as many "actionnes" as I want and she works all night. I decided to explore some clubs first; if I came up empty handed I could always call her back. There are definately some hot chicas on that website, if I was in town longer I'm sure I would have sampled one or two.
| By Esteban on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 08:40 pm: Edit |
FOXY'S
Foxy's is a medium size club in Zona Rosa. There is a long center stage with numerous small tables and chairs around, probably seats about 70-80 when full. There were about 15 chicas and 15 customers on a Friday around midnight, not real busy. Chicas in the range 6-8, maybe one or two 8.5. Not bad. Whether because it was slow or because I was the only gringo (or both), I got almost non-stop attention from the staff and chicas. Not too annoying, but I would have preferred to be left alone more.
I ordered a beer, they only have Mexican brands. The waiter was very attentive and I also had another guy near me who said he was "security" and to let him know if there was anything I needed. The chicas came over almost non-stop and sat down at my table. I probably chatted with 5 chicas in sequence over the first half hour. At one point a second chica sat down, but turns out she is not working she is the chica selling "boletas" (tickets) for the private dances. Clearly the 'sell' is on here. I got basic info on prices and time from the chicas, but let them go as I was in no rush.
I had eyed a hot one a couple times and when I got free she came over and we started chatting. Her name was Stefany, slim brunette with large natural C cup. She was easygoing and we had some chemistry so I decided she would be the one. She first quoted a higher price, but then made an offer of 1500 pesos for the VIP room. I knew from talking with other chicas I could get a slightly lower price, but thought maybe I was getting a deal for a better room. In hindsight, I think all the rooms are the same, just small booths. I accepted and we made our way to the back of the club where the booths are. The security guy said something I think was about him able to get me more time in the booth for a tip so unwittingly I tipped him 20 US, but I think this was wasted money. The real guy you have to deal with is another dude guarding the booths and who monitors the time. He motioned with his hand for a tip and it seemed clear it was not optional. I tipped him 100 pesos and he motioned for more, I added another 50 (150 total) and that seemed to do it. I didn't care too much as I was determined to see what I could do with the chica in the booth. They got all the money gimmicks going on here for sure.
Stefany and I settled in one of the booths, pulled back the curtain for privacy and the fun began. Basically lots of mutual touching, slow strip and grind, started roaming over my pants then inside, unzips the fly, tug down the pants for more roaming, then off with the pants and underwear altogether. Very hot. She had brought some baby oil which I had inquired about during prior negotiations. Nice. Lots of slow stroking with her hands and breasts, I paced the session to make it last. As we neared 30 minutes, she let me know time was almost up. I had her pick up the pace, and within a minute I was shooting between her breasts. OUTSTANDING. Would definately recommend this chica. In the booth I recalled comparing it to lackluster US strip clubs and thinking "This is the kind of service you should get at all strip clubs!"
SUMMARY
Entrance fee: none
Beer: approx. 200
Chica: 1500 for 30min
VIP security guy: 150 tip
TOTAL: 1850 pesos/$150 US
I also tipped the chica $20 US (well deserved), and tipped the first "security guy" near my table $20 US (mistake/not earned). So total expenses were $190 US.
| By Esteban on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 09:02 pm: Edit |
CADILLAC
When I had finished in the booth at Foxy's I came back to a table near the stage. The "security guy" who I tipped $20 US was even more friendly now, and offered to take me to another club. I was interested, but I made it clear I would not tip him any more. He was fine with this, he would just ride along in the taxi. As it turned out, the club we went to (Cadillac) was also owned by the same owner so the security guy was an employee there too. I paid the taxi (50 pesos), we went inside and he also got me a 2-for-1 drink deal. So this worked out well.
Cadillac is a slightly smaller, cozier, and more upscale club than Foxy's. More packed this night as well, about 20 chicas and 30 guys and few seats available. I found a seat near the stage and ordered my first beer. Within a minute a tall, tan morena in her 20s, with a slim waste and DD's parked herself next to me. She said her name was Nebraska. Now, I've heard a lot of stripper names over the years but this was a first! LOL. I was highly amused to meet a stripper named Nebraska in Mexico City. I slowly sipped my beer and chatted with Nebraska for awhile. She was unusually persistent in trying to get me to go for a private dance. She was hot no doubt, but I usually don't go with chicas so soon after entering a club. I like to take my time and look around and enjoy the scene. Besides I was spent from the chica at Foxy's. She kept persisting though, at one point she tried to pull me off the chair by my arm and say "you're coming with me!". In the end her attempts were unsuccessful and I made it clear it was time for her to leave. Nebraska left with a big pout. LOL. Like that name.
Cadillac had better talent than Foxy's, with most in the 7-8 range and a couple 9's. Most of the chicas were sitting with other guys, on the stage, or busy doing dances in the private booths. Only a few were 'free' at any given point in time. After Nebraska left, I didn't get much attention from the chicas, complete opposite from Foxy's. Although the ticket-selling girl did stop by and chatted me up on what chicas I might want to have a dance with. I think the private dance prices were similar to Foxy's. I ended up not taking any dances at Cadillac, I was spent and content to drink my two beers and just watch the scene and the stage.
Total expenses just 250 pesos for the two beers (220 plus 30 tip). There were some hotties in this club, no doubt. Would have returned to try one or two if I was in town longer.
| By Blazers on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 07:39 am: Edit |
Paying $150 for a HJ? I am taking a wild guess that you dont speak Spanish or have never been to TJ.
| By Cincoleche on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 04:36 pm: Edit |
Hombre.
Please revise the title to a Nebraskan in Mexico City.
Paying $20 for 2 beers and exchanging money at the airport, good grief.
| By Treker on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:44 pm: Edit |
All the information on this board and some people still choose to go blind. At a very high cost also.
| By Gooch, RTGooch on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:59 pm: Edit |
Jesus, the guy had a good time and he's telling us about it.
He's not shilling for anything, just sharing information. Even if he paid more than he had to, we now have current information on two places in Mexico City. Cut him some slack... pricing can always be dealt with.
Esteban, thanks for the report. The prices you paid seem a little high, but you had fun, and that's what counts. Please keep us up-to-date with any future visits.
| By Buick on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 08:30 am: Edit |
a friend of mine goes to mexico city on business several times a year. he's been doing it for at least 15 years. he travels alot for work (including asia and south america) and he tells me mexico city is on the pricey side. no doubt there is a low end available but the high end is pretty popular according to him. i thought about visiting him there but he said not to bother. not good for a non business trip.
| By Esteban on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 05:35 pm: Edit |
Hombre.
Please ignore Cincoleche. He apparently did not understand the part where I explained that "Nebraska" was the name of a stripper I met in Mexico City.
| By Esteban on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 08:11 pm: Edit |
This is my style of mongering. I seek quality and enjoy the night club scene, especially if there are take-out or in-house options. I usually budget $300+/night for entertainment. If I'm in Mexico City for the first time for a one night layover, you bet I'm heading to the top clubs, not wasting time trying to find the cheapest girl on the street or in a privado. I also dislike rubbers so I'm not always looking for FS. I had a fun time and came in under budget. By all counts for me, my brief few hours in town were a success.
My espanol is just fine. As far as exchanging money, when you get in town at 11pm for an overnight layover you don't have too many options. Better to exchange at the airport than at the clubs, in my experience.
It sounds like some of you have "elite budget monger syndrome", quick to look down on others who enjoy and can afford different things than you.
Last review here for Mexico City was 2004. So any recent info is valuable. I doubt I will add Mexico City to my rotation, the quality is there but the cost can't be justified with the low city safety factor. But I won't be adverse to a short layover, especially if it's bringing my airfare down en route to another destination.
| By Cincoleche on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:52 pm: Edit |
This is my style of mongering.
You don't even need to leave the US then, if you are interested in expensive handjobs, overpriced drinks, and money gimmicks. It is not that we are a bunch "eliteists", but I doubt anyone enjoys just throwing money away. That is just being foolish and hardly the footsteps to follow no matter your financial merits.
| By Catocony on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 06:46 am: Edit |
190 US dollars for a handjob in a strip club is fucking outragious even in the US. I agree with Cinco's point, why go all the way to Mexico to get scammed and overpay for questionable services?
The main point of this board is not to advocate for the cheapest piece of pussy in a given spot. There's always a toothless 50-year old hooker who will fuck you for $5.00, but we don't aim for that. Most of us, at least. What we do aim for is good intel on a variety of places with a variety of prices with value - fair price for good services - being the goal of most. A major part of that is explaining how to not get scammed. Would a Mexican tip a "security guy" $20.00 just for "looking out for him"? Would a Mexican pay a stripper US$20 tip on top of her already high prices for a fucking handjob? Never. So, ask yourself this question - why did you?
| By Bwana_dik on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 09:04 am: Edit |
"It sounds like some of you have "elite budget monger syndrome", quick to look down on others who enjoy and can afford different things than you. "
Esteban, I think you missed their point. There are plenty of guys who spend tons more money than you did while out having a good time, but they get way better value for their money. Believe me, there are quite a few guys on this board who can drop a ton of money without batting an eye. Some of my friends think nothing of dropping about US$300-$500 for an evening of fun at Centaurus in Rio. Cat certainly dropped some serious cash during his recent stay in São Paulo. The difference is they got exceptional service--bbbjcim, fucking in any position desired, and often anal sex if desired, with very hot and accommodating girls.
In other words, the point is not that you paid a lot, it's that you paid way too much for what you got. Now, I really don't care, as I would never go to Mexico for p4p. But others who might spend time in Mexico City hate seeing people throw money around unnecessarily, as it distorts the girls' expectations.
Personally, I think that paying for a hand job is kind of sad. In my book, hand jobs are strictly off-limits, and I'll give a girl a hard time if she uses too much hand while giving me a bj. But if that's your thing, so be it. I don't like condoms either, but getting a bbbj is a piece of cake in the places I choose to frequent, and I pay less than you paid for a hand job....and I get to fuck her as well.
| By Catocony on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 10:34 am: Edit |
My philosphy is to do what locals would do in a particular venue. That doesn't mean to go where the locals would go, but to simply act the same - and be treated the same in return - as a local guy would if he had your bankroll and was in the same spot as you. Oh, and by local guy, I don't mean some dirtbag off the street, but a local middle-class/upper-class guy with the same job as you and similar education, that sort of thing.
In your example, a local guy would certainly not pay what you paid for the services you got. He would either get much better service for the same price, or would pay much less for the same service. Either is a acceptable course of action.
| By Tiny123 on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 02:06 pm: Edit |
Thanks for the report Esteban. Anybody who's been to Tijuana or Juarez and thinks he's an expert on what top end prices should be in Mexico City is fooling himself. There's a reason why some of the hottest hookers in Argentina, Venezuela and Brazil end up there, when they could go to Europe instead. Prices are high. It's not a locals vs. foreigner thing. There are lots of Chilangos, and very few gringos, paying 2500 pesos for an hour with a Diva.
(Message edited by Tiny123 on August 06, 2010)
| By Branquinho on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 06:32 pm: Edit |
There are lots of Chilangos, and very few gringos, paying 2500 pesos for an hour with a Diva.
For a handjob?
| By Esteban on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 07:35 pm: Edit |
You guys are missing the context here. I didn't fly down to Mexico City just to get a HJ in a stripclub. I was flying to another destination (Panama) and had an overnight layover in Mexico City. I arrived at 11pm. My priority was to check out some of the top night clubs. I achieved my objective, and had an enjoyable half hour session in one club to boot.
Different strokes for different folks (pun intended). I'll take a good baby oil handjob/tittyfuck over a CBJ or lame BBBJ anyday. Especially with a hottie. Yes other things are fun too, but sometimes mongers like a little variety. That night I was in the mood for night clubbing, and finding a hottie for just the kind of fun I had.
The $20 tip to the "security guy" was a mistake which I noted. The $20 tip to the chica was not - she gave great service with a smile and did everything I asked. I had no time or interest to bother figuring out what a local might do in those clubs. Tipping aside, I doubt I overpaid significantly. Those of you speculating what might be possible in the high-end MC clubs don't know, don't pretend you do.
You guys are a hoot. Thanks for the tips.
| By Cincoleche on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 09:18 pm: Edit |
What's to speculate, its the 2nd biggest city in the entire world so how difficult would it be to get more than a hj with a "hottie" for at least 30 minutes for basically $200 US.
If well-educated, hard-working professionals don't make $200 in a day, why would a poor uneducated girl with only her looks not take that for 1/2 hour.
| By Copabrasil1 on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 12:26 am: Edit |
Somebody above mentioned lots of gdp's working in Mexico. First of all, it is very difficult for a poor Brazillian woman to get a visa to Mexico (yes you need one). Second, while Brazillians love to dance, pole dancing is like pilates, yoga, and aerobics combined - anybody who really ever knew a GDP knows they'd rather get fucked 3-4 times a day than actually participate in physical labor for 8 hours. Prior to the visa issue, I have met some Brazillian gdp's in Mexico, they were fucking, not dancing. Lastly, Mexico City is very expensive as well as many other cities I've been to, that being said, I've never been to a place that was a "strip club" that was not really a "clip joint."
So my take from this report is don't go to "strip clubs" and expect to have leave it all out there type sex for an hour for a reasonable price.
| By Copabrasil1 on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 12:28 am: Edit |
clarification - Brazillians need a visa to enter Mexico
| By Brazil_Specialist on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 03:03 am: Edit |
Cut the guy some slack. He is reporting a way of mongering he enjoys, and is getting flamed.
If he can afford it, why not? $20 to security guard? I always suggested people to give a tip to a Help security guard if they live across the street, to make sure they would not get robbed on the last 50 feet on their way home. Probably a good investment. At least it does not hurt.
I also have nothing against good quality hand jobs by hot girls. To each one their own.
CincoLeche, I usually agree with you. But cute prostitutes make lots of money, check out Centaurus, for example. Of course, I prefer to pick those that don't make insane amounts of money, that is true.
BwanaDik,
$300 to 500 does not get you very far at Centaurus. Just 2 basic programs. I have heard of free-wheeling spenders that get 4 girls at once into a suite, and that more then once in a night. That way you can easily spend several thousand $$.
I get a minimum of 4 girls, one by one, on my average massage parlor run. That would set me back over $1000 at Centaurus (instead of $100, insane overtipping already included)
| By Buick on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 08:51 am: Edit |
every couple of months we get a good debate going on pay/value etc..... i think cat gives a good summary on the topic in his post. and when someone goes somewhere for the first time (or maybe even second) he deserves a free pass from us on hombre.
the guy rolled into town, dropped some cash, and rolled out. should he have paid $100 for the HJ ? "saved" $50 ? should he have left town w/o the HJ ? when i do something like this (quick stop over/visit) i just roll, couldn't care less about the pricing.
again, i haven't been to mexico city and i don't plan to visit ever in my lifetime. but my friend goes often and he tells me stories. he is in these clubs with his mexican customers. these guys have ALOT of money. my friend takes them to the places in hong kong when the mexican guys are there on business, that is hong kong china not hong kong TJ. in places like fenwick/escape and neptune these mexican guys go hog wild. i've been there with them.
ps. some of you may remember when i made my first (and only) trip to AC. i had a miscommunciation with my buddy that lived there and i TIPPED 1,500-2000 pesos for the girls. that was overpaying in a huge way and i was/am a complete idiot for that. i was there for 8 days doing this. i asked my buddy how much and in our drunken stupor i thought the total was in addition to the bar fine. but no, it was the bar fine plus the tip. we don't talk finances much so the topic never came up again. not until i reported on it here and the boys explained my misfortune.
| By Catocony on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 10:08 am: Edit |
BS, you're really confusing the issues. Tipping the Help goons to watch your back as you walked down probably one of the most dangerous blocks (at that time) for gringos is one thing. Tipping a guy SITTING IN THE CLUB WITH YOU is another. That's just dumb, be it Mexico City or Rio or Paris or Timbuktu.
Second, paying a few hundred bucks at Centaurus WILL GET YOU LAID - plus some ass grabbing. This guy paid that for a handjob. Just a slight difference? Plus, Centaurus is a clip joint, so again, why compare the relative value in one clip joint to another?
Esteban has posted similar accounts of grossly overpaying for services in other trip reports, so it's not a new thing here. Going to a strip club is not the best way to get laid in just about any city in the world, that's the real emphasis here.
| By Copabrasil1 on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:33 am: Edit |
Just to clarify, my post was not a flame on Esteban...in fact I appreciate the info and so should everyone else. As pointed out, Mexico City is very expensive, on the level of Paris or NYC. Rich Mexicans transacting on the basis of the dollar with living expenses based on the peso builds wealth real fast...fat cats in Mexico are a little fatter than their Brazillian counterparts and they are a little more open with their wallets as well, in my experience...
| By Esteban on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 07:28 pm: Edit |
Clarification... I usually check out the top clubs when I travel. It's a sub-hobby I enjoy and over the years I have been to some truly incredible places.
In some cities the top clubs are expensive. Paying the going rate at an expensive club is not necessarily overpaying. Budget mongers should learn the distinction.
(Message edited by esteban on August 10, 2010)
| By Catocony on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 10:00 pm: Edit |
Jackass, who's the budget monger when you're the one getting clipped in a Mexican strip club? If you want to argue the merits of whether or not strip clubs are the "top clubs" you can, what you can't argue is that you overpayed dramatically for a handjob.
| By Batster on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:01 pm: Edit |
I lived in Mexico City from 1998-2001. I actually lived only a few blocks from the places this guy mentions. I generally avoided these places like the plague. Real clip joints. Even then there were Brazilians, Colombians, and even some Cubans working in them. Real mercenaries. I did go occasionaly with co-workers and business contacts. These clubs are not kept afloat exclusively by tourists. They get a lot of local and out of town Mexican visitors. I must say that I have been with several Mexican businessmen who had no problem dropping big money like that for just a handjob, or even less. Sometimes they will drop hundreds for just drinks and never go in the booth. I was once with one of the owners of the RIU hotel chain in CHAOS in Guadalajara( He was a spaniard not a Mexican) who dropped probably $1000 bucks and never went in the booth. Whatever. My own belief is that the concentration of wealth in the DF causes prices to be completley skewed. A huge percentage of all the money in Mexico is in the capital. I realized that Mexican businessmen who delight in paying their gardener $2500 a year have no problem dropping that much on a night's entertainment.
All in all, Mexico City is a terrible place to hobby. There are other options than the clubs, but you really have to be on the know. On the low end, there were always some diamonds in the rough among the street girls around parque sullivan and the Telmex building. But you had to check adams apples closely because there were a a lot of trannys ( now Milkman will be booking a ticket). But you could easily get a pop for $30 around there. On the higher end, There was a guy years ago, Ingeniero Norman, Who would organize parties in a penthouse in Polanco or in the high end Hotels ( camino real, Nikko, JW, etc)where you could meet his stable of really outstanding model type girls. You could get royally laid by one of his girls for 300 dollars. Not bad for the quality. They were outstanding. Infinitely better than 150 for a handjob.
I was young enough back then that I did just fine cruising for amateurs. But I am old enough and fat enough now that I would certainly consider tracking him down. At one time, his phone number was posted in the info section.
However, take it from someone who lived there for several years and got to know the place better than most, if you are young ( or old and in good shape)and have time and some game, its a great place to pick up non pros. If you are hobbying go somewhere else. Pay4Play there sucks.