Trip Report Sao Paulo September 2010

Arriving in Sao Paulo my flight was 2 hours late and my cab driver was no where to be found. This delayed my arrival at my hotel by 3 hours.
I had an early afternoon appointment with Vivian (vivian.hot@hotmail.com) (75116426), who is a mulata and a favorite from a previous visit. I had been emailing her prior to arrival because I did not want to play phone tag with the many chicas on the web sites.
I always go to her apartment to reduce the extra person charge at my hotel and it ends up costing less for cab and service.
Vivian charges $300 R at her apartment which is very comfortable and she loves to kiss and is taller than the average chica at about 5;9” and very proportional with C cups and large nipples. I personally love the olive skin of the mulatas. Vivian speaks good English but on the phone she is less secure so email is easier for her.
I ended up visiting her 4 times in one week as my schedule was hectic and she always found time for me at all hours.



That Saturday afternoon I was still jazzed up and called another old friend and also a mulata named Alice. (n_362@hotmail.com). (76988366). Alice speaks very good English and moans in 3 languages so she adds excitement to the experience. Both Alice and Vivian are very reliable which comes as a relief for the many scatter brained chicas that seem to be out there. Alice is very punctual also so when you have a tight schedule as I had the last day she was there on time. Alice also is a great kisser and she told me many good “work” stories. She does not like real fat men so if you are over 300 lbs. don’t call her as she will tell you so and leave.
She told me she did this to a guy, but that she was also polite about refusing to go to bed with him. Alice is also a repeat for me and she charged me $300 R for my usual 2 hour request.


I worked some very long days and late during the night I called Vivian and she asked me over. She lives in the Bela Vista area which is a nice area of SP.



I had been speaking with a 23 year old named Caroline (9425-3683). I found on the Pimp.com web page and had tried to call her during my last visit unsuccessfully. Caroline looked promising and also agreed to come over at 10 on a Saturday morning. We had agreed on $250 R for 1 ˝ hours, plus cab fare.. Her English was minimal but she was right on time. She looked about 20 lbs heavier than her photo showed and it was all in her lower side. She started to ask me about paying the $250 R in advance. This sent up warnings and we went back and forth on this. I agreed reluctantly as this is never a good thing in my opinion, but she was already naked. 30 minutes later she is getting her clothes on and I asked her about the agreed 1 ˝ hours. I told her I usually want to go 2 or 3 times and she told me once was all she offered. Well I pretty much escorted her out in a hurry as this session was obviously over and I did not want to be with her any more either. So I would not recommend Caroline.


I decided I needed to turn this around quick as I did not want to leave Brazil with this bad chica on my mind.
I sent an email message to Alice and she agreed to come over that afternoon and after 2 great hours with her the bad mojo from my morning session was gone. Thanks Alice.

Jerente.

A few of your other SP reports mention paying these girls an additional 120R for taxi fare. I don't know where these girls live, but in a city of 20 million people there has to be GDPs that live within 50Km of your hotel.

Too bad about paying in advance. It takes self-control, but it is best to show the girl the door at that very moment in every circumstance. It always goes south paying a girl before a session.

Good report....it is funny how the Sao Paulo girls are so different and expensive. I have pretty much given up on P4P action in SP...even Paulista's in Rio seem to be the most complicated and expensive (with the exception of girls from the South of Brazil). Now, if I am in a bar in Rio and a girl tells me she is from Sao Paulo I write her off pretty quickly!

Agreed, LM. My worst experiences in Rio were with Paulistas (before I learned better). Especially the ones that spoke good English.

As a regular visitor to Sao Paulo & Rio, if you don't care about the beach then Sao Paulo can be just as good as Rio for the hobby if you know where to go. Sao Paulo can definitely be more expensive but not by much, if you stay away from the chic eateries, 5-star hotels and shopping.

I know the concept of "you'll get poor service, if you pay beforehand" but in practice it doesn't matter IMO. Don't you pay in advance in a terma? as the pricing is fixed and when the girl walks into the room with you she is guaranteed her portion of the payment? I have seen very few mongers complain to management if the session was not great or the phone call comes early. You pay in advance at almost all massage places and private apartments. You pay then you bang.

Traveling in Sao Paulo by taxi can be deadly. Just think of rush hour traffic on the main street in your home city. The city is pretty spread out. The girls may be over-charging him at 60R each way, though. That price for the round trip would be more like it.

Jerente: As a repeat client, did either girl offer you a discount? Either less money or more time? just curious.

As for being shorted by Caroline, I hope you did not pay her the additional money for taxi. That was complete BS. But I guess we've all been there. I know tougher mongers would argue with girls like her but I rather not cause a scene & just "chock it up to experience".

Late at night can be tough in Sao Paulo if you don't want to pay the high price entrance fees for the clubs.

Next time you are in Sao Paulo, try out my friend Liza Barros. She gets a lot of positive test drives on GPGuia. Works out of the Blue Tree Premium off Paulista. http://lizabarros.zip.net/ Her english is poor to zero though.

No, you do not pay up front in any termas except for Centaurus, which most of us don't recommend anyways. As to the girl getting a guarantee, you can generally bail on a program and not pay if the girl flat-out renegs on something like a BBBJ.

Termas are highly competitive which is why your odds of a dud program are a lot lower there than with an agency or a freelancer.

I have never visited a terma in Brazil so I dont know how to compare.I did visit one in Panama and did not like the way it was set up. I felt like I was having sex in a doctors office on a small table.
The two chicas I repeated with both gave me a lot of extra time and treated me very well, more like GFE than I have ever had, even from novias so I cant complain there.
I must have spent 3-4 hours each time with Vivian as we were listening to music and discussing a lot of things before and after.
To me the attitude of the chica and the quality of time determine if they were worth the price. In my case both of my mulata friends gave me unrushed service and stayed as long as I wanted them to without asking for any extra money for additional time.
The bad chica Caroline asked for cab fare but I told her she already had it with the short time of service she provided, and yes, I should have known better but the wrong head was doing the thinking and it was my last day so I wanted to have a big send off for myself.
My second to last day in SP I did see an attempted robbery on the highway where the traffic was backed up and a guy tried to steal something out of a car by walking up to the car stopped in traffic. The car took off with the robber holding on to the car and he was thrown about 10 feet when the car ran into another car. Too bad the robber walked away with just a few scratches.
This woke me up to the dangers of travelling in SP and to keep my guard up at all times.