As the AC portion of this trip comes to a close I'm compelled to rate this experience with prior experiences. Although much has changed in Angeles over the past thirty plus years I've been coming here, many things are common and remain the same.

The obvious changes are the relatively fast paced construction, now with high rise hotels and classier, larger show clubs on the newly anointed "Walking Street". This time I noticed a broader mix of foreign nationals. The segment which I don't remember seeing before isn't Koreans but Malaysians and East Indians. Angeles is starting to share similarities in that regard with Pattaya which for years has been a diverse, international playground. Even though their was a wider spectrum of nationalities, visitor count was much lower than I anticipated but that only confirms my long held belief that this city has highly fluid demographics with respect to visitor counts. The weekends seemed like typical weeknights and on weeknights few visitors were out on the streets. All made for a competitive environment which kept me a happy hunter.

One good trend is that local enforcement seems to be doing a good job policing under aged freelancers which were more prevalent in the past. I've never witnessed them here in large numbers and they seem to be nonexistent for now. I didn't notice any this trip and would hope this trend continues. One step they've taken is at the entrance of every bar they've posted a fairly large notice warning minors to stay away. I'm would assume the three to five ID tags the club's girls are sporting have been required in an additional step to curb abuses in clubs and bars.

As far as the quantity of girls, the small clubs were consistent with past engagements however the larger show clubs typically had half the bodies I've see in the past. Blue Nile (CH Link), Doll House (CH Link), Crystal Palace (CH Link) and Atlantis (CH Link) all surprised me when it came to the number of available girls. The mix for the type of workers seems to reflect a shift towards fewer dancers with more hostesses and waitresses. In the past hostesses/waitresses rarely had the plastic, numbered ID tags. They all do now, and lots of them. Usually three to five on each employee. Some are required but I think the tags which are bold numbered and colored help the managers and owners with the tiered pricing scheme but also to let everyone to know that they are available employees for BF's.

Quality on this foray was much the same as the past keeping in mind my conception for quality is weighted not solely on look's but personality, attitude and enthusiasm as well. Even the hottest gal in town won't get a LD out of me if she needs a check up from the neck up. Perfect example came about yesterday. The club I visited had just one dancer who got my attention so I grabbed a booth. When I motioned for her to step off the stage, for some unknown reason she immediately copped a bad attitude and started talking shit not knowing I knew the basics of her rant. Not only did I waive her off, I made a point to the mamasan she needed to insure her customers will never be offended in that manner. Got up and left without paying for the just opened beverage either. I hope the little snit got a tongue lashing and the drink deducted from her salary. If she didn't then things have truly changed in Angeles. That type of behavior was never tolerated in the past. There were again IMO, plenty of doable girls however there's no getting around it, lots of dancers were way below my bar-fineable index. How bad was it? Serious, there was a dancer on stage at least five months pregnant at the club where I made the twosome pull. It wasn't body fat and my BF's confirmed it. That's a first for me in any country. I was saying it jokingly when I was referring to the fuglies at Emotions earlier in the TR but this one was real. Lot's of older dancers who should find a new gig or moved on to hostess/mamasan long ago.

Don't interrupt the high number of fat and fuglies assumes there was a lack of "look's wise" hotties because there were plenty to be had. I typically get out on the town earlier than most since I prefer to be playing with my new found pet at a restaurant or my room instead of late night drinking in the bars. I'll typically will have found a date and be in my room sharing new skill sets well before 9:00 pm. Even keeping an early schedule it wasn't hard finding a looker but finding decent looks and the other qualities I prefer did require some extended shopping but nothing out of the ordinary. AC seems to have a larger percentage of Metro Manila transplants and the girls from the Provinces continue to provide an endless stream of newbies which are my preference.

So overall in my mind the fundamentals for a great mongering destination remain in place. Lot's of fun, friendly and attractive gals who speak your language. Pricing while a bit higher remains stable averaging around 1500 PHP or $35 USD, lower than almost any other destination in the world. Good lodging options with more higher end facilities yet still many decent and affordable rooms. Wish I could tout the food but it's not a highlight for me. The other two drawbacks which most will concede are the travel time required and the lack of a beach of any sort. Set those aside and I for one will always find time in my mongering pursuits to visit this ever evolving shit hole!

And last but not least some snaps from my parting event. My last two pulls have come from the same area near the far end of Walking Street at the newer, smaller bars, Tight Jeans (CH Link) and Colors (CH Link). Last night I was prepared to drop big dollars ($70 USD, lol) which is not aligned with my MO, remaining cost conscience when it comes to BF pricing. Turns out I still boned up for the 3000 PHP BF but managed two hotties for the price of one. I will throw out an inquiry at this juncture of the TR. If there's another place on the planet which offers up the look's, attitude and enthusiasm a pair such as the following can provide at $35.00 USD per girl, for LT and great GFE, please share where that might be because I'm doubtful it exists anywhere outside of Central Luzon.

Emily is very cute and petite at 4'11" and tipping the scales at a whooping 87 lbs. Another Samar Girl who worked at Fantasies (CH Link) for a few days before heading to Color's where she's danced for the last three months. A very attentive companion who was very open to improving her BJ skill sets in the wee hours of the morning. Marilyn recently moved here from Quezon City, part of Metro Manila. She has an American boyfriend who's a serviceman but since he's currently in Korean, no problem, right? They are great in the sack, good GFE from both and kept me quite busy for hours on end. We had a great time, playing cards, swimming in the pool and fun in the sheets. I would highly recommend either of them individually and most definitely as a dream team.

Photos: Emily/Marilyn - Bar Color 22 23 24
Photos: Emily - Bar Color 25 26 27 28
Photos: Marilyn - Bar Color 29 30 31

I'm off to Olongapo this afternoon and I can't imagine a better way to ring the bell, putting AC once again in my rear view mirror. I've had one of my best visits in years and surely won't wait so long to book my next tour :o)

Thanks for the great report and pictures.

They both have excellent bodies but the one without the war paint is really cute.

By the way, the average barfine is now 2,000 pesos if you take into consideration all the bars. Perimeter has some 1,300-1,500 peso barfines but the lion's share of bars on Fields are now 2,000. Basically $50 to barfine an AC girl not including a tip. Not cheap when you consider the lower scale of looks in AC IMHO.

Blazers, maybe you have been frequenting different bars than I did. At one time or another I visited about 70% of all the bars in AC on this trip. I did see some 1500 - 2000 and 1800 - 3000 tiered BF pricing however they were the exception, not the rule. When I inquired about BF pricing 1500 was the norm including the two Bininis above. 1200 - 1300 is less likely but still available in a few spots. Yeah, she went overboard on the make up but still cute IMHO.

16 bars on Fields now are at least 1800 pesos and the Champagen group and La Pasha group are now all 1,900. Guarantee you that they will nearly all be 2,000 by July.

Am I wrong, but it seems like back around 2003, when guys from this board started invading AC in droves, the barfine price was like $25-30 USD and that included everything? WTF went wrong? Japanese and Koreans with more pisos than brains or just general idiocy on the part of English speaking mongers?

The prices being quoted now just don't make the god awful travel to AC worth it any more...

Lots of things have gone wrong, but you also have to realize that 2003 was 9 years ago, and that a certain degree of inflation is inevitable. Prices were bound to rise, but they have risen faster than is warranted by external economic factors over the past 3 years. Why?

Greedy bar owners
Planeloads of Korean businessmen
Rising materialism among the bargirls themselves
Costs of dealing with corrupt officials and police always rise faster than inflation.
Too many idiots willing to sponsor girls
Etc. (add your own items to the list)

Blazers - You're guarantee is based on pure speculation but since you've written Angeles off as a mongering destination, why would you care what the pricing is?

QL - As I mentioned most of the barfines which were quoted or I paid were 1500 PHP or $35.71 USD. I paid only one BF over 1500 during my entire stay for the door girl at Tight Jeans which was 2150. Yep, I did hear up to 3000 but I never really felt the need and I also feel most would agree the gals in this report aren't bad looking. There's cars that cost one million dollars but that doesn't mean you have to pay it for a clean comfortable ride. So the larger message is there's no shortage of quality hook ups for prices as low as you'll find. I'll drop what others consider too much for lodging or other stuff but not for the girls, so call me cheap or frugal in that regard. What makes no sense to me is anyone whining about BF prices in Angeles. If BF pricing is an issue and a weighted consideration when you plan your next trip, please share with everyone where you feel the better pricing value lies for procuring cute, friendly, English speaking gals.

Bwana's list is good, but the last 2-3 years have also seen an exponential rise in South Asian/Malaysian mongers, who are even more anti-old-school AC than Koreans: They puke double drinks to differentiate themselves from the fat whitey cheapskates, cultivate barhop entourages, while remaining fastidious in staying in low-end hotels and crowding 3+ on rented motorbikes...

Popcorn, IF, and that's a BIG IF, the current BF prices were no questions asked for LT, then AC would indeed still be a bargain. I think that default LT is long gone in AC, though, which means that there are plenty of other places offering 35 dollar short times.

Porker - All of my pulls were and will continue to be LT which is solidified before payment. I did cut a couple loose early but that was my call with one exception for the gal I jumped last night. She was a runner but would have been around in the morning had I insisted. Knowing she was lacking in her enthusiasm, poor GFE and not into Mr Happy, I cut my losses and sent her on her way after six hours. If a gal isn't into it I'd rather not waste my time.

Popcorn - Excellent report and dead on from my experiences in recent months. The argument of ST versus LT seem to be mute, since it appears that you are choosing ST and retiring to the room early in the evening, not the girls pushing it on you. Your style seems to be producing based on the pics of girls you have posted so far.

When I went in January, and then again in March of this year, I had no trouble finding barfines in the 1500-1800 range. Also, with those girls that I clicked I had no pushback on LT - since that is my preference. But that is really more do to mongering style differences, since I prefer to stay out late drinking and sleep late (ST just does not work very well with that). Considering that this only $40-$45 USD, quite a bargain in my book.

While I have not mongered as long in AC as some board members, I can see some of the changes that Bwana mentions over the last few years. But quite frankly it has never negatively impacted me - I adjust my behavior to avoid Double lady drinks, "Top Model" barfines, etc. I just go to another bar until I find something I like.

Also, I think idea of service, ST or LT, attitude, etc, can be identified pretty quickly as Popcorn already stated. If you pick that '10' from the stage and she already has an attitude, I can't see that improving in the room. If someone insists, the girl might go with (or find an excuse after getting a few LD, like she is menstruating) and then exercise her free will and bolt early, or provide bad service. Again, that seems easy enough to avoid from the beginning.

Excellent trip reports - Really no sense in trying to convince those that do no like AC, the type of girls, or whatever else. AC is not for everyone, but that is part of the attraction. I do not ever seeing it becoming like Pattaya, for example. This is excellent and is why I keep coming back - even so I can only handle short stints at a time because of the lack of things to do other than fuck girls.

If someone agrees or not, not really important to me, but I still think the girls in AC continue to be one of the best GFE experiences of the top mongering destinations in the world. I truly hope it never becomes popular and just continues to evolve the way it has been since I have been there - with that I can deal with (up to now, at least). So, stay away - horrible place, horrible girls, horrible everything!!! :-)

The girls change all the time anyway, come and go...so there is always a fresh batch of girls fresh in from the province. Then a few old timers to keep things interesting as well.....

Are the barfines clearly on display in most of the bars as before? With the caveat that there would be 'special ladies' with for example different color badges or numbers.

LM - I feel attitude and personality is generally quickly diagnosed however in a percentages of instances it will change. A few gals are fine with LT but clam up after the first session as they feel one pop is enough. In some cases before I make the pull I will negotiate the number of sessions, typically requesting five and ending up at three. Three good sessions is a lot of boom boom in an evening but there are rare gals who really enjoy sex and happily provide five or more. Angeles and most other destinations in the PI don't really have standard separate ST and LT pricing which is common in many other countries.


TF - I rarely see BF pricing posted in an establishment.

I must have got my facts mixed up as my last SEA trip was to Pattaya, which does post barfine & drink pricing on their mirrors & walls. With that said, how do you know whether you are being quoted an inflated barfine?

TF - Since almost all BF's have cost 1500 PHP I'm not tripping over toothpicks to find out if I'm getting jacked. It's too low to worry over IMO. My take is there's too much emphasis on the price of a single BF on this board. To me it's better to quantify what you'll spend on a cost per day metric. I calculated prior to my visit $300.00 USD per day including air fare, lodging, food, transportation, outdoor activities and barfines. I'm tracking right at that pace which would be even lower had I chosen to stay at a lower priced hotel. Varying departure points will also alter this equation.

PC - Well said. I agree about the 'all-in' per day metric as well. Unfortunately, I need to replenish my ff mileage so this year I will have to purchase a SEA ticket ($1200) instead of using points which means an additional $92/night on a two week trip (lose some days in the air)

Good points indeed. When you look into what it costs to get there and be there, that determines the overall value, monetarily. The PI may have cheaper bar fines, but for years from my different departure points, airfare to Bangkok was much cheaper, thus the PI got a miss for quite some time from me and gets one again now, what with $1700+ airfares.

I'm still a bit mystified by the ridiculously high airfares to PI. Why is it I can fly further, to BKK or Singapore, for hundreds less? Is it just lack of competition in the PI market?

I'll be interested to see what my all-in per day costs are for my trip next week. I'm pretty damned sure they'll be below the numbers I racked up in Rio earlier this month (and reported in a TR).

Thanks again, PC, for a well-written TR.

BP - Not sure where you're purchasing airline tickets. I used Orbitz and RT was $975 including all fees and taxes. I saw a couple of bargain prices at $850 but they had long layovers. You must live far from the West Coast?

The prices to the Pi are indeed quite high....

Lol yes. This board is California centric I know. My airport is RDU right now, connections guaranteed and well over $1000 RT for anywhere in Asia.

I know it's been suggested by others to Greyhound or Amtrak it to Atlanta etc, but my reply there is with 13 Thailand trips and 4 PI trips....I'm good.

Why twist myself into a pretzel for it, when there's S. America and the Caribbean I'm still working on exploring? Every let down in the PI or Thailand gets amplified like crazy when you've spent so much time and money to get there. I'll be diving in Curacao and visiting MDE for $782 in airfare in June.

MDE is good times pussy wise for sure...especially if you are wiling to explore el centro and peripheral areas (and...No you will not killed cuz you are white but you do need to use common sense).

I am with BigP here...south america needs more exploration...Colombia and Brazil obviously have been done to death.

I am very interested in Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and Paraguay. I am going to check out Bolivia but that is more for cultural reasons and do not expect much and will be arriving with ground floor expectations.

I am little puzzled how this digressed into MDE or South America by individuals that have not traveled to PI. Without having visited, how can one compare????

Asia is a completely different experience than South America. Even within Asia girls are very different.

I have been to Colombia many times, as well as most other mongering destinations (from Venezuela, Peru, Argentina, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Mexico, etc) and lived in Brazil.

Instead of wasting my time and money, I pretty much have settled on the following: #1 continues to be Brazil, followed by the Philippines, and then Thailand.

It is simple - the GFE experience you will have in the Philippines is just not as readily available in South America (with the exception of Brazil).

In my opinion traveling to South American destinations other then Colombia and Brazil for mongering purposes only is just not worth it.....I prefer to pay more and go to Asia.

Mmmm...not sure about that.

The Phils babes are super sweet no doubt and the GFE is almost guaranteed.

But GFE can be obtained in south america: DR, Colombia, Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala. Not to the same extent as the phils granted and it does take a bit more effort but it can be found consistently.

Fortunately we all have different tastes, mojo, and levels of interest that we are not all cramming into the same place at once.

I remember in the early 00s the airfare to Angeles could be found for $600. There were these sales that Cathay Pacific would have and sometimes they would even throw in the first class lounge for an extra $50. The hotels used to be uber cheap too. There used to be rooms for $15 a night. The barfine came out to $20-30. I remember it being so cheap that if the girl was a "runner" you didnt care too much.

Looking at all the prices today, I would say the prices have inflated 200-300% in the last 5-10 years and I expect them to inflate another 200-300% in another 5-10 years so the time to go is now.

There is no shortage of guys willing to pay the higher prices.

Protege, you have pretty much lost all credibility on this board....I doubt you have traveled there.....

Also, your comment about prices being inflated are absurd - the fact of life is inflation! If someone expects prices to remain stable and the same for the next 5-10 years then they are just not living in the real world!!

If you click on trip reports and my name, then you can see my trip report of Angeles City. There were many positive comments in that trip report about the ladies and the report in general. I have been there several times over the years with plenty of photos and I might post a report of those past trips if I get the motiviation to do so.

Your negative comments to myself will only galvanize my resolve in posting on this board so that is not a good conversational strategy to stop me from posting. Might I suggest using a different conversational strategy and not being so prejudiced against people you have never met?

I did enjoy this trip report and was especially impressed with the threesome up top. I didnt like the cigarette or the white ghost like makeup, but still an impressive pull. Even though Angeles is more expensive when compared to the days of uber cheapness, its still a bit cheaper then Pattaya. I found more ways to spend cash in Pattaya then I did in Angeles. I guess there is not too many things to spend your money on in Angeles besides the ladies, the food and the hotel. I guess that keeps you focused.

Portege, Rosy Palmer in still in your budget category. I was amazed to see two posts in a row from you without a word of worship for saint romney! Did you finally get a clue?

Protege - You're comparison on prices in 2000 or 2001 make me laugh. If you had been there in 1971 like I was, you would really have something to complain about. ANYONE who bitches about LT, full service and great GFE for $35.00 should find a new hobby!

AC prices have not "inflated" all that much. The biggest change has been the devaluation of the dollar. If you go back to the mid- 1990s, the dollar was only getting 25-30 pesos. 2001-2006 were the glory years, as the dollar bought over 50 pesos the entire period. But the decline began in 2005 and bottomed out in early 2008, peaked again in Nov. 2008 (at about 49), and has been sliding down ever since (now at 42.25).

Bar fines (or whatever the fuck the bars call them now) have increased, but not much at all beyond inflation. Inflation is a fact of life everywhere in the world. You expect costs to increase over time, or at least most rational people do. That's one of the reasons people try to increase their earning power.

If AC is getting too expensive for you, you are screwed as a sex tourist.

BTW, Portege, when was the last time you took a trip???

Greetings to all from AC.

Lets not muddy up Popcorns report with profane comments and other behavior which goes against the rules of the forum. Its a good report and thats all we should be talking about. So lets respect the report and leave it at that. If you have some type of personal issue with me then take it to private message, but dont throw a childish tantrum in someone else's report. Lets respect Popcorn.

Some of you get real brazen when a keyboard is placed in your hand. Sounds like a personal problem.

Protege - Talk about muddying up a TR. That's your MO. How about everyone chip in to purchase a pair of rosy shades for Protege and a reasonable price adjusted for inflation?

BD - Looking forward to your as usual awesome TR. Have fun and happy hunting!

Look, Im glad you enjoyed your trip. Thanks for the report.

Bwana....while AC is still cheap, the only destination that doubled its prices in 10 years is Brazil and AC has doubled its prices in every way, epecially in drinks, ladies drinks and food. Barfines have doubled as well.

Believe it or not, I spent less money in Medellin than AC. AC has lower grade looking girls and should be as cheap as Cambodia but isnt. I dont mind spending to get quality but quality tough to come by in AC. Bareback full service can only go so far.

Blazers - Your 2010 TR to MDE only reflect cheaper prices for ST not LT. In some instances you were paying $55 a crack. Drinks, food and lodging were like less as was the airfare. Look's are preferential and subjective but I would submit few of the gals you lined up in MDE are as compelling as what you've found in the PI. IMO the finest looking chica in that TR was a Filipina.

This is true. Every time I have been to AC the women stayed all night and it was me who had to kick them out. Of course, there was a runner every now and then, but for the most part I was treated with respect and the woman delivered on her side of the bargain. At times, it didnt feel like I was hiring a prostitute but more like being with a girlfriend.

On the other hand, in other locations I have been, it seemed more business and the ladies did not always live up to their side. So while some of these Filipinas cant be put on the front of magazine, the service cannot be questioned.

Popcorn...i struggled a bit as it was my first time to Medellin and I didnt stay at the Mansion. I never banged a Filipina in MDE. I spent less in MDE and LT is for cheap charlies IMHO. You are not saying AC girls are hotter than Medellin girls right?

"LT is for cheap charlies?" I'm missing something. I thought the casas in MDE were for cheap charlies. LT in MDE tends to be fairly expensive.

Over what period of time have prices doubled in AC? I paid 1200 for a barfine yesterday, and I certainly never paid 600 for one in the past. The DH group and their top end EWR prices are certainly ridiculous, but who pays those? And there are a few greedy bar owners out there in addition to the DH group, but they are easily avoided.

My biggest complaint about AC right now is the level of talent. The bars are empty, there are often few girls in the bars, and they percentage of undoables seems to grow. I barhopped for 3 hours this afternoon and saw nothing of interest, even at the low price of $30.

I still think the claims regarding the changes in prices in AC are exaggerated. It seems to me they've bumped up at a rate consistent with overall inflation. Any other differences are due to the weakening of the dollar, not the changes in prices. Lots of Americans feel poorer when traveling these days, but that's mainly to do with a weak dollar, not price gouging.

Santos was 500 @ 54 Piso/USD = $9.25 currently it's 700 @ 42 Piso/USD $16.67 80% price increase. :D

I'm sure Fields bars are greater than that and probably well over 100% increase (but I never go in them)

1200 BF would be Perimeter rd = $28.57 today. Not that long ago it was 800/1000 @ 54 PHP/USD. 50% to 100% increase.

My little fuckfests are nowhere near creating even mild financial discomfort for me in PI and it is still cheap as hell but as a general statement I think it is fair to say "prices have doubled in 10 years".

Blazers - Correct, you only stated she "looked filipina". LT is for Cheap Charlies is only YOUR opinion, same as your statement that guys who won't disclose how much they tip, usually over tip. These generalizations are off base in a number of cases but if you chose to believe them, up to you. I would submit people who stay in low budget hotels are Cheap Charlies but that's ok, at least you freely admit you're cheap. Yes, I am saying AC girls are hotter than Latina's, MDE included as Asian's are my preference. Too many latina's at a young age are already overweight, excuse me, CURVY! I will concede based on my experiences they are usually better in between the sheets but still not my first preference.

BD - I was surprised. The smaller bars seemed to have the usual number of dancers, 5 - 15 but the big show clubs were typically staffed with half the dancers I remember from previous visits. No doubt one has to sort through a high amount of fuglies in pursuit of a decent pull.

Popcorn:

1. You are the first person that I have ever heard that prefers Filipinas over Latinas....especially Colombianas. Sometimes they are fat but normally are in shape and have incredible faces, something near impossible to find in AC sometimes.

2.I should have been more specific about labeling LT guys cheap charlies. I was not referring to Latin America. I was referring to AC. Guys go for LT's with girls because it's cheaper and you really see it now with increased barfines. I prefer to do 1-3 ST's a day and only LT if exhausted, really click with the girl or she is so damn hot that I want to fuck her all night(rare).

3. I choose cheaper hotels to have more money for pussy. Blue Rock was not cheap and my hotel was cheaper in AC but most of the time I stay at PB which is not considered budget by anyone.

I prefer ST in AC so for me AC is more expensive than Medellin and even TJ on most nights. Pattaya is about a draw as you can see that I paid 500 baht for a hotel in Pattaya that would be 3,000 pesos minimum in AC.

AC and most Asian destinations are still pretty cheap but AC for me has a poor value now. It's not because I am jaded or that it has become more expensive, it is because the talent is too spread out and tough to find pretty and young talent worth barfining who are not cherry.

It's the reason I am skipping AC and going directly to Subic next trip. About the same price in all but a more concentrated pool of young girls without kids who are hot and few mongers and zero Koreans.

Does anyone actually find Filipinas attractive? I've done hundreds and generally speaking maybe a dozen were what I would consider hot. Verses hundreds of Brasileras of which a majority of them were hot.

Filipinas are like McDonalds. Plentiful, convenient and cheap. Beyond those things, they don't bring a whole lot to the table.

I've done hundreds and generally speaking maybe a dozen were what I would consider hot.

One can only imagine the copious amounts of alcohol consumed in order to compensate for their appearances.

I like filipinas and I like Braziliaras. I don't do ugly chicks, only hot chicks.

There's no debating it, good looking gals are few in any country you'll ever visit.

I'm with Blazers on the Filipina vs Latina issue. Mexico has too many "curvy" girls for my taste, but most other places I've mongered in LA (Cuba, Brazil, Argentina and Colombia) have tons of girls with fabulous bodies.

The filipinas often have a definite lack of curviness. Asses are often absent, and there are plenty of rice bellies on view doing the AC shuffle. And many of the girls who look nice have a definite lack of firmness to their bodies. They are soft in a very strange way. I'm not sure whether it's diet, lack of exercise, or genetics, but it seems pretty common.

In the end, there are hot girls everywhere (except maybe in Burma), but the Latina body is my style. I'm finding the search is harder here in AC than in Rio or MDE.

Blazers - I did spot a few Koreans in Barrio Barretto. One shared the van with me from AC to Subic. He had a Filipina gal in tow, likely a extended bar fine on a getaway. I also saw a few others solo on the streets and in clubs. Still had a good ratio as most of the bars were near empty and at most half full.

Popcorn I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but to your comment "Too many latina's at a young age are already overweight, excuse me, CURVY," when I was in AC last year, over 80% (maybe even higher) of the bar girls had really disgusting spare tire guts (rice bellies as Bwana calls them). I go to Colombia all the time, and while their civilians might be getting larger, there is a huge percentage of slim, in shape hookers in Colombia.

I'm not going to argue about price, but I definitely pay more in Colombia than I did in AC, mostly because I could never really find enough quality girls in a day worth paying for in AC, and some days I just settled or ended up with a repeat.

Thanks for the report though! Loved your pics!

Infanticide

In many ways I'm in agreement, I have had some awesome encounters in Rio and Mexico. In general Asian's are not as curvy, especially when you look at ages 23 and beyond. Since I have a home in Mexico I'm up to my eyeballs in Latina's. When I visit a foreign destination I'm looking for something different. As I've stated, look's are subjective and preferential, to each his own. With that being shared I look at recent TR's from Latin America and to be frank I'm disappointed that there aren't more stunners in these reports. I feel if you aren't prejudicing Asian's, you will find them equal in the look's department to what's shared in Latin American TR's. The other consideration is the inherent language barrier in places like MDE. I am fluent in conversational Spanish but from what I've read here, that would be of little value in Columbia. Not so in the PI. Final thoughts, glad this TR was well recieved and hope to make additional contributions in the near future.

It may be superfluous but I'll throw my hat back in here again.

No question latinas hotter than Asians, but the language barrier is indeed a good point. The good side of it is it keeps the Pattaya and AC riff raff out of places like MDE for the most part.

Blazers, I've traveled just to Subic before and somehow, maybe it's all the stops, but it was 4.5 hours from Manila to Olongapo on the Victory liner, then another 15 minutes in a trike going over the hills to Baloy Beach, which was a fun ride actually. After 24 hours of flying and connections, I'd rather make quick tracks (comparatively speaking) to AC and be done with one ST and taking a nap before the bus I would have taken even makes it to Subic. But then the next day off to Subic, all aspects considered, I like it better.

BD,
I get you on the AC bodies. I've commented on this in the past to friends. The legs/thighs have the shape but not the firmness like they are geneticly right without exercise but are mushy to the touch.

Conversational Spanish is more valuable in Colombia than the pigeon English spoken in the PI. I barely speak any Spanish and I do better than fine in Colombia. People there for the most part speak very slowly, and unlike places like Mexico and Cuba, they don't make fun of you when you make mistakes.

AC may not be perfect but name me one place outside of Angeles where the ladies will let you tie them up to your bed (voluntarily anyway)

i always like to get in on the LT for cheap charlies debate. never been a believer in that theory. blazers seems to be the big supporter of such theory. but it appears it is now aimed mainly at AC mongering.

so blazers are you saying the LT only guys in thailand are not cheap charlies ? keep in mind i've fully converted from LT to ST only so i'm not a diehard LT guy. i know i'm not a cheap charlie - really the other side of the scale - and i never saw LT as a way to save money. you might pay two ST's 4,200 total (600 bar fine, 1500 to girls). or you pay 600 BF and 2,500 LT for 3,100. BUT there are almost always more expenses involved with an LT gal, sometimes it is just a couple hundred baht and other times it can be a couple thousand as someone 'falls in love'. even the best cheap charlies fall in love and get taken. but of course they never admit it due to the shame it brings upon them.

generally speaking, the less time you spend with the gal, the less money you spend.

remember the discussion awhile back about possibly overpaying at one of those super go go's in pattaya. sometimes you are better off paying the bird in hand 2000thb for s/t instead of spending another 500thb looking for one that will accept 1,500thb. similar concept, time is money.

hope i'm not messing up the AC thread. but this LT cheap charlie debate has been going on for years. have to get a shot in every now and then.