WARNING: Do not read this while eating your breakfast.

The first chapter of this trip report has been replaced by a public service announcement, fresh off the press.

I was stupid to believe the clap-thread discussion about not picking up girls on particular streets in AC. I would never go to AC anyway, so I dismissed the whole discussion. I discounted the rather obvious possibility of mongers wandering around the country. Like between AC and Manila (a mere two-hour drive, duh).

A smear of the goo was sent off to the lab. The result: I picked up not just one but two different strains of gonorrhea. Good job.

So I turned out to be one of the "injectees" on this trip: they gave me an ampoule of a penecillin-family antibiotic. (That was literally a pain in the ass.) And Cipro --more than I've ever been prescribed. Ever.

Unbelievably (to me at least), there is still discharge after twenty-four hours, and the urinary-stream spraying has only just begun. This is very tough stuff. This is the first time I have ever really feared a venereal disease. After reading about the idiots that some of you mentioned in that thread, it is easy to see how such resistant strains came to be.

I knew exactly who the source was --a perfect eighteen-year-old I met a few weeks ago on the last day of a previous trip. She had been menstruating then so she just sucked me off, and I put her on my to-do list. Incredible brown body, super-affectionate. A cute little kitten who stayed with me overnight this time.

I got back to her (the source girl) to tell her about it, and one of the others I nailed after her. One more I am still trying to get in touch with.

The source girl of course initially denied it. ("Don't EVER say that!") But I calmly explained, "Sweetheart, the doctor said that the infection occurred about five days ago. That was you. I wasn't with anybody else." (And I wasn't around that time.) Then she apologized in a way that made me suspect that the little scamp had been told she had it before.

If you come to the Philippines --anywhere in the Philippines-- USE A CONDOM. Barebackers stay away!

I'm inviting a torrent of abuse by posting this, but so be it if it prevents even one infection. There is absolutely no pussy that is worth this.

Penicillin-family antibiotics and Cipro are BOTH largely ineffective against common Philippine strains these days. They should have gave you a cephalosporin antibiotic with an Azithromycin chaser. I'd question the qualification of whoever treated you with ineffective antibiotics and get to someone who knows what they are doing.

@Sancho: cephalosporin is the big shot I received. I thought I read somewhere (on the insert or a web site) that it was in that group.

I do apppreciate your expertise. I am in Thailand now and was handed off to a UTI specialist today. I will ask for Azithromycin.

Also, you gave me the idea to just tell him that I got this in the PI. (DUH!!!)

For the record, today was the first time I rode in a wheel chair. This guy said that the shot they gave me yesterday was a small dose, so today they gave me one so big that I could not walk. That'll teach you to bareback! Ouch! Thanks again for the advice!

Bummer about the clap mate. Was she a street girl? or a girl in club that (supposedly) gets a weekly health check?

You are only partially covered with a condom. That means you can still get something.

Hate to be negative, but that is just a plain fact of life.

You are somewhat better protected with a condom, but it is not guarantee.

Do the clubs in AC give the ladies a weekly check like the girls in the Rio Termas get?

There is a totally farcical health check for the AC girls that is little more than a visual inspection of a swab. The hygiene clinic is a complete joke. I'm still searching for a girl who's failed the hygiene check...

Rubbers will almost certainly prevent HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis and chlamydia. They'll help a bit on HPV and herpes, but those are contact vectors so any skin-on-skin is a possible infection.

The solution is pretty simple: don't bareback, or stop fucking at the garbage dump. Or just get used to treating yourselves after every trip and hope you don't pick up a resistant strain.

Read this on another board and am posting it here so Costar can have something to read while he's getting better:

DG's '99% Guaranteed Guide to Bareback Fun'

"Health Check" - she needs to look healthy, not too thin, not a drug user.

"Check Her Oil" - while making out, slide a finger in first, smell the finger and then put the finger in her mouth. If I smell anything but a clean pussy, or she refuses my finger in her mouth, I pass on the bareback

"Look B4 U Leap" - do a visual for any rashes, open pimples, sores, warts or the like

"Piss Off" - take a leak immediately upon completion. Uric acid cleans the urinary tract, helping to prevent bladder infections or worse

"Wash Up" - following the piss, either shower or wash the unit with hot, soapy water

"Pray to the gods" - Achilles' mom dipped him in the river Styx, holding him by his heel. I am Achilles, so I wash my heel while listening to Styx's 'Grand Illusion' ... hey don't knock religion...

DG's 99% Guaranteed Guide to Bareback Fun

I've tried it, and it works!!! It works 50% of the time.

That's one step above what the filipinas do, which is splash a little rubbing alcohol on their twats and think happy thoughts.

Today I kept my appointment with the Thai UTI specialist. I told him that I got it in the PI and that a buddy of mine told me he was cured with cephalosporin (which I was given), and Azithromycin (rather than Cipro).

HIM: Was it Sancho?
ME: WHAT?!? Do you know him? How did you know?

He then reached up and pulled down a chart with a bunch of photos on it: Interpol's 10 Most Wanted Barebackers.

...but seriously, he told me that Azithromycin is for chlamydia. We tested the remaining discharge. The gonorrhea is gone (from the two Rocephin bombs), but I have NSU (Non Specific Urethritis), for which he prescribed two other antibiotics. (I won't say what they are because I don't want anybody using this board to self-doctor.) But it appears that chlamydia is about the only thing that cutie did not give me.

As I type this (in Pattaya), I've got the cutest little Thai girl asleep next to me. She's eighteen and certainly no older. I met her a month ago. No tatoos, nice little bush. Absolutely perfect body. And a sweet, loving attitude. She strokes me and coos. Very submissive. Just the way I like 'em! It is killing me to not be able to bareback, but that's the way it is. No way is she catching anything from me! Too precious of a babe.

I had a great covered f*** last night in Bangkok. No Cialis, used a condom for everything, and it was great. I had the right woman up there and it all came together. It can be done with a condom.

Oh,and to answer Don Dingo's question: this was one of the masseuses that patrol the streets of Makati near Burgos. She doesn't do that any more, though. But she was very well dressed --that shows you how much that counts for in terms of hygiene.

A pretty standard treatment for chlamydia is Azithromycin, followed by a dose of Suprax (cefixime) 400mg for Gonorrhea. Not sure if Suprax is available in Thailand or PI, I know it was not in Brazil. I had a US doctor friend prescribe it for me after catching it from a civilian, not a working girl....

I think at one point the recommended dose of Azithromycin was bumped up from 1g to 2g, but from what I have been reading it is 1g again. Either way, gives you one hell of a case of Diarrhea.

Well, that's something for Costar to look forward to.

Welcome to the PI, where the girls give you a drippy dick and the meds give you a drippy ass.

Costar,

looks like there's nothing more to add to this thread other than don't forget to update your Facebook page.

PS: Suggest a different destination next trip for better results.

CFK

Probably shouldn't say anything. 28 hours later, just checked into the Central Park Hotel at 3am. It's 5am now and I'm not terribly sleepy, getting my room together, then reading this post...

No rubbers are one of the MAJOR reasons I come here. Doing so, of course, fucks myself up and possibly others when I catch this STD, so why THE FUCK would i do so? I'm comfortable enough in my abilities with females to say it's a performance thing, I can't FUCKING FEEL A THING with that thing on and if I close 9 of 10 ten times without, you can cut that in half WITH it, thus for the past years upon years I've avoided them wherever possible.

Least I admit it and am up front about this.
I'm carrying the last two antibiotics that work and I'm carrying a month's supply of them. The question is, as Bwana brought up--what happens when even THESE don't work?

Then you get to go to work wearing a dipper so your drippy dick does not stain your trousers. Not a very happy thought!

I think the worst thing one can do is play doctor when it comes to STD/STI's at the very least hit your county clinic when you get back from a trip.

Cat & CF, give us a break, like STD's and HIV is not a problem in Latin America??? Also Cat, your statement regarding condoms "Rubbers will almost certainly prevent HIV, gonorrhea, syphilis and chlamydia" is misleading. Any doctor will tell you contracting STD's and HIV is less likely but entirely possible even with a condom.

Popcorn,

Thus the "almost" part of my quote.

I don't know of too many guys who have caught an STD in Brasil. A few isolated cases, but the number of guys is pretty low and they've had dozens of trips and dozens of women with zero problems.

Just reading this board, hell, this thread, there are more guys catching shit in the PI weekly than in Brasil yearly, if that.

The reason? One, a health check in Rio or Sao Paulo is legit. They see the doc once or twice a month, and draw blood once a month. If they come up with anything, they're pulled from rotation until they get cleared. That in and of itself is a massively good reason to stick to termas and agency garotas.

Two, and I realize this is a bit of a glass house but I'll still throw the rock, we seem to not go out of our way to fuck girls who we know to be infected. Guys in the PI, you all know that the skank you're banging has a high chance of carrying something. That chance may only be 10%, but that's sky high if you ask me. 10 days there with 2 girls a day, there's decent chance that if you bareback them all, you're going to catch something.

So no Popcorn, there are STDs in Brasil, like everywhere. But we don't load up with meds on every trip with the expectation that we're going to come down with the clap.

So again, the three choices are simple. One, use a rubber. Two, go somewhere else/stick to blowjobs/whatever substitute you can find. Or three, keep fucking skank and getting infected but stop fucking whining about your drippy dicks. Because at this point, you seem to have a very good chance of catching something if you bareback LBFMs in AC.

@Paulyvegas: taking antibiotics prophylactically causes resistant strains. You are turning your body into an incubator in which the microbes most susceptible to the antibiotic are killed off right away, and only the more resistant ones remain to reproduce.

@Cat: you are indeed an enigma in that you are one of the more ostensibly intelligent creatures on this site. Surely you realize that "skank" and "at the garbage dump" ain't got nothin' to do with the likelihood of catching something. Microbes are not the least bit selective about their hosts.

@CFK: There is one thing more to add: the only sex that I will ever have in the PI from now on is jacking off all alone, with the door locked, wearing two condoms and rubber gloves. And using antibacterial soap before and after.

Now I thought you guys would demand photographic evidence of the cutie I spent the night with. She would allow no juicy snaps this morning, so be patient. It is morning here and she stepped out to go pay bar.

Costar,

You could most likely bareback a dozen girls in Rio or Medellin or Pattaya or Madrid and not catch an STD. In AC, you bareback a dozen girls and you'll be lucky you don't have the clap afterwards. That's what I mean by "skank" and "garbage dump". The PI in general but AC in particular are well-known hot spots for STDs. Fuck, how many times in a year do some of the guys who write here come down with the clap or worse in AC? Fuck, how many times has Sancho picked up gonorrhea there?

You guys are fishing in a polluted river. Pick a different place to fish, fish differently, or just keep doing what you're doing but stop even reporting on it. Just assume you're going to catch something if you bareback there and if you don't, then it's news.

When your cable company keeps you on hold....you get angry
When you get angry...you take a long-ass half way around the world trip to the Philliphines
When you take a long-ass trip to the Philliphine...damnit you are going to bareback some cheap nasty pie-shaped faced ho
When you bareback some cheap nasty pie-shaped face ho...you get some resistant strain of something nasty because every other guy is doing the same.
When you get a resistant nasty....you prescribed all kinds worthless antibiotics and numerous swabs shoved up your urethra
When you suffer the pain of those injections and swabs...you feel humiliated and disgusted

Don't feel humiliated and disgusted (and get scorned by Cat)....upgrade your next mongering trip to Brazil.

Cat, you have nothing to back up your statements. I was in the PI just a few weeks back, banged well over a dozen gals bareback and had no problems at all. If it's your time to get the clap or anything else, it's your time. You're a shill for Rio in particular. You show your bias in every TR from the PI. Just because you don't care for Filipina's doesn't mean you need to insert your negativity whenever someone reports from there. Amazing to read since you've never even been there. There are a lot more situations which are far more threatening in Rio than in the PI. At least in the PI I don't need to worry about an army of punk thugs if I wander two blocks from the beach who'll kill you just for shit and giggles. It's a big planet and you're just one small speck on it.

I just had the pleasure of a dozen bareback bargirls in AC, all from the bars and no free-lancers.

I caught nothing but the urge to return and repeat!

Cheers!
DonDingo

How often do I comment on PI trip reports, or Asia reports in general? I'm commenting here more on the fact that you guys keep going to the same place, fucking the same hookers, and getting the same STDs trip after trip after trip. Then writing about it as if it's a strange occurrence.

Here's one example of many.

"Does anyone actually find Filipinas attractive? I've done hundreds and generally speaking maybe a dozen were what I would consider hot. Verses hundreds of Brasileras of which a majority of them were hot"

It's been over five years since you've offered a TR and I can't find anything doable in any of them. For all these hot Brasileras you worship, your pudding's kinda thin.

I generally agree with most of what Cat said except the suggestion that people stop reporting about STDs in AC. On the contrary, keep reporting about them so that no one is under the misconception that the place has cleaned up.

I too, in 4 one month trips, have caught just a single case of chlamydia one year. Far worse are the ear infections (2 in 3 years), the sex zits (crotch rot) and pushing a bum knee to the max.

By the way Costar, I never said I took them prophylactically. I've just got them in reserve if needed.

Enough chit chat...Fields is waiting.

Yes Popcorn, I think I commented in a grand total of six Asia trip reports in the last year - counting this one.

Barebacked over 500'DIFFERENT Filipinas

Diseases caught= ZERO

Barebacked 3.2 million different filipinas

Diseases caught = priceless

MORAL: Do not use statistical methods unless you understand the principles behind them....

Relying on what friends share or what's posted here for a comparable evaluation of which country has a higher percentage of sex workers infected with STD's or HIV is humorous. Do you actually think all of your friends will acknowledge they've caught a bug?

To me it's irrelevant which country poses a larger threat. If you're in the hobby bare backing and you don't accept the consequences you're being naive.

What is obvious is we have a small group of Rio Touts who make a habit of dissing others TR's. Instead of acknowledging another members contribution they attempt to diminish it by stating everything is better in Rio so everyone should go there. It's like two kids in a tit for tat argument about whose mother is prettier. The bottom line is if you're looking to influence someone about a particular destination then post the bitches or zip it.

You guys are comparing apples to potatoes when trying to compare the odds of getting an STD in Rio and AC.

The option to go bareback in Rio is very limited and the one time you hear about someone going bareback in Rio it was that porn star Darren James getting getting HIV from a puta in Rio and spreading it around the US porn industry.

In Rio, I'd say unless you invest some time with a put (4+ times with her) you won't get BB. I'd say it is available less than 5% of the time.

In AC, I'm guessing it is availble 80% of the time or more.

So the simple math is, the Rio puta has a lot less opportunities of getting an STD as well as spreading an STD.

There's nothing I can do about your opinions of the looks of filipinas. I'd hate to hear what the Rio and AC putas have to say about us who pay for their services.

I go to both cities every year Rio at least once a year and AC 4+ times a year. Never caught a thing yet and will BB anytime I can.

Just an aiside. There was an old story from the 80's about an AF guy that was pissed that a bar fine gave him an STD. He went to the bar and yelled at her saying you gave me tulu and her retort was, "NO, YOU PAID FOR IT"

None of the gals I've done in a number of trips Rio had any reservations about bare backing. Maybe things have changed as I haven't been there in awhile but it was never an issue and I never caught any STD's either.

Im just back from AC and i did caught the clap again. I used the condom about 50% of the times. Now that won't prevent me to go back there but BB in AC is OVER for me. Guys who say they always BB and never caught anything... well its hard to beleive !

Maybe I am the odd man out, but I always use a condom. Some GDP's have begged me to not use the condom. She even pulled out papers over her blood work but I still refused.

I must have the worst luck. On my only trip to AC, in which I barfined a grand total of 3 girls, I got the clap as a memento. I don't know how guys like Blazers can go so often and not get anything.

Blazers is a lawyer...and you expect him to tell you the honest truth?

MY BBFS Stats

300+ in Rio
40+ in AC
300+ in Cuba
60+ in Medellin
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700 in 11 years

0 STD's

YMMV

From Retirement, I Remain Yours Truly,
Deeg

Guys who say they've fucked XXX whores bareback and have never had an STD are almost assuredly wrong. I've said it a half dozen times here. I'll say it again.

Many guys are lucky and get asymptomatic cases of STDs. They have the disease but have no symptoms. Some guys are lucky; they get something like chlamydia and never even know it, while others piss razor blades.

But more to the point, if you've barebacked more than 2-3 whores, I guarantee you that you've had HPV. It's totally epidemic in AC, and is also epidemic in Brazil. In men, HPV is asymptomatic unless you get a subtype that causes genital warts. Only a minority of the many subtypes cause warts. So, if you've been barebacking, you've had HPV. It clears without treatment in men (but can cause serious problems for women). There isn't even a test for it in men. You only know you have it if you get a variety that produces genital warts. But I guarantee you, if you are barebacking, you've had (or have) HPV.

So, PLEASE, enough with the "I never have had one" claims.

So let me get this straight. You went half-way around the world to fuck some prostitutes who have been with an uncountable amount of guys. These guys were probably experienced mongers who also visited many of the other places around the world like Thailand and Jakarta where hookers dwell. You barebacked these sluts and then got yourself a disease. Now you are in surprise and shock that you have said disease.

I will now turn this trip report over to the Clubhombre peanut gallery so they can lecture you and thrash the thread a little bit with rants and other misc. profane comments.

Snooky,

My experience in Rio is that, first time, bareback is about 15%, maybe more. Second time, that number goes up to 60% or so. Third time, more like 80%. So, it's not as simple as "everyone barebacks in AC and no one does in Rio".

Hey Bwana if HPV cannot be screened in men, and I am asymptomatic, you're a logical guy... how can you prove I have it? Until you can - I say I have no STD's in my lifetime.

let's say we agree to disagree on HPV.

Tell us more about this line:
"Many guys are lucky and get asymptomatic cases of STDs. They have the disease but have no symptoms. Some guys are lucky; they get something like chlamydia and never even know it, while others piss razor blades. "

If I am asymptomatic, but have an STD, will it show on my bloodwork?

Cuz homey gots 11 years of annual bloodwork all showing I test negative. Speak to that for us will ya?

Deeg

@Portege: "in surprise and shock"? I was just reporting. You have to go on trips to do that, though, so it's one more thing that you can't do. (Apparently you're still harboring resentment about somehow managing to embarrass yourself even worse than I did on my last Makati report with your faux forensic analysis. )

(I think responding helps Portege to not feel like such a nugatory twerp. To that end be sure to capitalize his name, too.)

DG,

The logic is thus: HPV is highly contagious. It's exceedly easy to get. If you've barebacked a girl who has it (and let's assume you have), then you have it.

Here's a little experiment you can try, if you're somewhat insane. Go to AC and bareback a few dozen girls. Then come home a bareback your wife/girlfriend. Then have her go and get tested for HPV about a week later.

I don't recommend this.

Well over 100 hook ups in the PI and never caught the drip or anything else which has any type of physical presence. I've caught gonorrhea twice, once in the US and once in Thailand. Believe what you wish but those are the facts.

With each trip a guy takes there are hundreds of members waiting to read the report. The underlying need to boast about the trip events is never in doubt, it's a right of passage. Soon, between our personal jokes, stories of inappropriate behaviour and several natural grins we find ourselves constantly saying “OH AND AND REMEMBER THAT CHICK….” or “AND HOW FUNNY IT WAS WHEN THAT…” or “HOW AWESOME WAS THAT TERMA!“ And.And.And I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.." things become lost in translation. Costar has simply shared an unfortunate experience and the consequences. Obviously good judgement is the best defense of STDs. It's not difficult to conclude that not everyone is swayed by consequences. That said, and to give a non - facetious reply, at the very least I would guess the majority of us are STD Enablers.

This should be renamed: __________The Immaculate Infection_______________

Bwana can I assume that your lack of response to the afore raised question is your tacit acknowledgement of my point?

Here it is again - cuz inquiring minds wanna know:

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Tell us more about this line:
"Many guys are lucky and get asymptomatic cases of STDs. They have the disease but have no symptoms. Some guys are lucky; they get something like chlamydia and never even know it, while others piss razor blades. "

If I am asymptomatic, but have an STD, will it show on my bloodwork?

Cuz homey gots 11 years of annual bloodwork all showing I test negative. Speak to that for us will ya?
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Just trying to see if you were suggesting I had contracted STD's without my knowledge (other than HPV).
Deeg

DG,

It will only show in your "bloodwork" if the doc specifically requests testing for a variety of STDs; otherwise, no. I've you're talking about the bloodwork usually done for an annual physical, then the answer is no.

Not suggesting you HAVE contracted an STD, just that it's possible that you have, and that it's impossible for anyone to claim with certainty that they have never had an STD.

The doc always orders a full STD check, testing for everything. He knows of my 'proclivities', and tests accordingly.

So now that we know that I've had annual blood work with a full course of STD tests, and I've never tested positive, are you suggesting that I have contracted STD's of which I'm not aware? (aside from HPV)

Deeg

I get bloodwork, STD examinations with urine samples, physicals, etc done every 6 months for 12 years and thus far have not contracted anything. It is possible I have had HPV without knowing it but I just can't see contracting Chlamydia or Gonn and not known it.

It is also possible that DG and I have created some sort of immunity that battles STD's because of the amount of bacteria we have in our bodies from chronic barebacking.....ah, I kid I kid.

Some of it is the selection process as well but a lot of it is just luck. I fuck 6-10 different girls every month bareback in TJ and have yet to catch anything as well.

Not bragging, just letting people know that barebacking Filipinas is not an automatic path to drippy dick.

Still possible, DeeG. First, some stds will clear on their own, and if they clear before your annual check-up, the tests won't detect them. Also, it's really really unlikely that the doc tested for ALL stds. They just never do that because it's incredibly inefficient, and very, very expensive. Most will test only for gonorrhea and chlamydia unless there are symptoms present, and most docs won't even test for those absent some symptoms.

There's a guy I know who used to be somewhat active on CH about 7 years ago. He came back from a trip to Rio and had symptoms...got tested and had the clap. He got treated quickly and then resumed "relations" with his wife. All was well until she experienced pain, went to her gynecologist, and learned that she had herpes. Big fight ensued because he'd never had any symptoms. To prove his point, he went to get tested and--oops!--he had the virus. He'd just been lucky and didn't develop nasty lesions. He recalled having a day of fever while still in Rio, and that was probably the only symptom he had. Needless to say, he was soon divorced.

Regarding HPV - The CDC website states "Human papillomavirus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted virus in the United States. At least 50% of sexually active people will have genital HPV at some time in their lives."

So the chances of catching HPV are high even if you never touch a LBFM bareback or never leave the US.....

Chlamydia and Gonorrhea are also very common....obviously barebacking a hooker -anywhere- significantly increases the odds. That is just the way it is.

DG - I can only hope for your sake that you are right and never caught anything.....if so, then you must be one lucky son of a bitch with a hell of an immune system.

I think it is funny to read someone actually running back to a bar and yelling at a hooker that gave him the clap...is the anger/frustration with the girl coming from the fact that she is supposed to be on a higher moral ground and should inform her customer's of any potential STD's she might have??? Dream on.... a girl banging hundreds of guys for money doesn't give a shit!

I think you guys are over-complicating this. Let's keep it simple. The experiment would take guys who travel to AC and to other spots, and bareback a lot. In fact, they can even bareback filipinas outside the PI. I for one barebacked well over a hundred different LBFMs in 1998 and never caught a thing. However, that was in Bahrain and the UAE, not in Angeles.

So, these guys, take a total sample and ask: have you ever caught anything, and where?

Just looking at this thread, there appear to be a number of guys who have most definitely caught the clap or chlamydia in AC, while not catching things elsewhere. Expand the pool of hombres - maybe with a series of polls - and you'll have a more conclusive answer.

My hypothesis stands - if you bareback in AC, you stand a much higher chance of catching something than barebacking anywhere else. That would include other areas of the PI as well.

By the way, as I stated in a different trip report recently, in my book STDs are gonorrhea, chlamydia, herpes, syphilis and HIV. Plus those parasites or whatever that LA Guy caught a while back. I guess crabs too, although that's a whole different subject. But, getting a UTI or pink eye or strep throat or something from a hooker is not an STD.

Cat - Any reason you omitted Hep C?

Blazers and I are currently working on a Men's Immunity Supplement derived from our DNA samples and stem cells. (And for all you righties - RELAX - it's obtained via Ethically Harvested Placenta from Full-Term births). It'll be available in tablets, or as an FDA approved lubricant marketed under the 'Liquid Teflon' brand by The Achilles Squad.

And Bwana, I love ya like a brother but I ain't buyin what you're sellin. I ain't had no STD's. That's my story and I'm stickin to it.

Hep C is bloodborn and is rarely transmitted sexually. I barely consider HIV to be an STD for that reason as well. You can get it from sex, but you can also get it from needles, blood transfusions, etc.

I know some guys with Hep C, and all got it back in the day from medical procedures.

As for herpes, most of us have herpes simplex 1, which is technically an STD. We all have HPV, so if you really want to nitpick, we all do have some form of STD - as does the vast majority of the population.

Making claims about barebacking Filipinas and probability of getting STD's just because any particular person has done it and not caught a noticeable STD....... Is kind of the same as a bargirl who says that working in the bar without using any birth control is not an automatic path to pregnancy, because she knows several ladies working in bars who don't use birth control and never got pregnant.

I have conducted a great deal of time in the field conducting scientific research into this particular topic and my microbiology experiments have proven rather conclusively that Gonorrhea is rampant in AC and has very dramatically increased in prevalence over the last 6-8 months compared to my own previous experiences in the past.

You're welcome to your story, DeeG. I'm a big fan of fiction as well

I've never been able to get a good answer to the question of whether individuals' immune systems are selectively powerful towards certain exposures? I'm thinking there are very fortunate guys out there like Dongringo and Blazers who are virtually immune.

I think that because I was an outdoorsman in my younger years, and I could sleep in a bed of poison ivy and never suffered a day in my life from it. I can make out and share spit with a couple of dozen girls each year who I know to have colds, and I never catch cold. I also have never knowingly had an STD but acknowledge that I probably have "no warts" HPV. I rarely do BBFS, but you can easily contract HPV even using a condom as you can Herpes which I do test for and never have had. I have had hundreds of BBBJs in my life and licked the juice of the devil knows how many vaginas, and that's all you need to contract clap or chlamydia, but so far, so good.

I know though that my immune system is very fucking short of being invulnerable - these are the anomalies I can think of where I should have been stricken but have not been. So makes me think that I am blessed SO FAR with a strong immunity in particular to STDs and the common cold.

I have to say though that the greatest mythology in mongerland IMO is the idea that sex with a condom can't be pleasurable or even felt. I love and live for sex as much as the rest of you addicts, and I can love it through condoms. Of course, I only experience my own dick and my own pleasure response, so I can't speak for others. But I can be dubious when I hear monger multitudes crying about pleasure blackouts when using condoms. Makes me think, and it isn't a difficult conclusion to jump to when following monger boards, that this group is just oversexed and jaded - not physically ready for ultimate pleasure due to overindulgence. Most people stop eating for awhile when they're full, but lifestyle mongers fuck away day after day, year after year for the sake of sex addiction and other psychological crutches that come with the lifestyle. Perhaps the thrill is gone?

Erip raises an interesting question:

Why do we bareback? Is it because the thrill is gone? or as he so eloquently proposes - that we've become junkies?

Like Erip, I am capable of 'loving sex through condoms', yet as I reflect on my apparent need for my penis to touch vagina free from any latex, the only reason that comes to mind is 'it just feels better'. I want to feel every drop of her juices.

While we're at it, I generally DFK, for mutual pleasure, which is a risk.

And DATY? That's an excellent way to feel more juices.

I still chuckle at the number of guys who won't bareback lest they get AIDS, yet they'll pickle their livers, cloud their lungs and clog their arteries every day. To each their own.

Consider me a walking lab experiment. 3 days in AC, about 5 Raymond and Santos street girls barebacked. Let's see what develops...

I know that Sancho knows-- some definite cuties about right now on Raymond/Santos. Marvel as they walk out of my bathroom in 5-inch red heels, pink mesh cling dress and blonde wig. Look at their legs, their backs and tits. The thought of STD's are far away. Fact is, I can't believe I do these things at all.

Perimeter will be my Subic. I figure it'll take 10 days to even make it down that road.

Blazers - Agreed that the selection process can influence the likelihood of contracting a bug. I would submit looks come into play as a gal considered "hot looking" will attract more offers and consequently have more exposure. So fellow hombres, just to be safe lets make certain going forward we are only seeking out the oldest, ugliest women in the circuit.

Cat - Something which is overlooked is AC and the PI in general are reported on much more frequently at least in the recent past. Maybe three to four times more. If we saw more reporting from Rio there would likely be more shared regarding STD exposure. To be frank if your mongering bare backing anywhere outside of the Vatican understand your exposure to STD's is heightened significantly. If you catch the clap, it's hardly news.

Popcorn,

Believe whatever makes you feel better.

Popcorn,

you are perfectly entitled to fuck anyone you want and show us the video tape.

Popcorn,

You may be right (on the reporting issue), but as a frequent visitor to both Rio and AC (OK, more frequent to Rio, but annually to AC) I have seen a huge drop off in the number of gringos playing p4p in Rio over the past 4 years. Honestly, the costs of getting there, staying there, and fucking there seem to have driven a significant % of the monger crowd away from Rio. Activity in the Rio sections of every board I know--not just CH--has been down, and I think that reflects a significant drop in gringo p4p travel to Rio.

As a point of comparison, I visited Rio in April and AC in May. There were 20 times the number of gringo mongers in AC than Rio. Of course, there are more whores in a condensed space in AC than Rio, so it is easier to spot the mongers. But I hit all the major termas in Rio, and they were QUIET! Termas managers have routinely asked me where all the gringo tourists have gone. This has been the case since the US economy took a dump.

The only semi-decent info I have on this "debate" comes from the WHO and UNAIDS surveillance programs. If you believe them, STDs are quite a bit more prevalent in sex workers in Philippines than Brazil (data I have seen are at the country level). Why might that be the case? Well, contrary to what a few seem to imply, barebacking is WAY more common in the Philippines than Brazil. It certainly can be had in Rio, but I would say that a majority of the putas I know will absolutely not give it up BB in Rio. If you are at a termas in Rio, the girl is given condoms before she takes you to the room. Many Rio freelancers carry condoms with them. We all know what the picture is in AC. I've met exactly one AC girl who was carrying condoms. And she told me she brought them just in case "you wanted to use one."

AC attracts guys who want to BB, because they know they can walk into any bar in town and find what they want. So you have a mix of (1) guys who bareback a lot of whores and (2) whores who BB a lot of guys--a pretty efficient machine for spreading STDs. The picture is less certain in Rio, and the prices are high enough that girls are not doing the volume that AC girls often do.

It's not that the AC girls are "skankier" than Rio girls. Ask IAS, who found oodles of skanks who made him happy in Rio. There are plenty of cute, sweet AC girls. But they absolutely do bareback more often with more customers. Add to this a particularly shitty preventative health care system in the Philippines as compared to Brasil's, and you're going to have higher STD rates.

Finally, at least in the termas in Rio (where I do the bulk of my fucking), the girls get tested (real tests!) regularly, and are put on leave if they fail. The hygiene checks in AC are completely bogus. This could help keep down the STD infections a bit (certainly the checks are far from foolproof). Many of the guys I know who've come home from Rio with "souvenirs" were fucking freelancers from Help or Balcony, who probably are only tested when they get sick.

All this said, the bottom line is--as several people have said already--if you choose to bareback, you are more likely to get an STD than if you cover up. This is true no matter where you are doing your fucking, although the risks may be higher in some places than others. I won't bore you with the math, but it's a mathematical certainty that higher rates of barebacking leads to higher rates of infections. Ask the folks at I_am_sancho's STD clinic! So we make our choices, hopefully somewhat informed, and live with the risks we all take.

As for your recommendation that we chase after the skankiest whores to avoid high traffic hotties who may be more likely to be infected, well, that hasn't worked so well for IAS

Bwana - You are dead on. In Rio condom use is pretty much a given in the P4P scene, unless you have known the girl for awhile. Of course there always exceptions, but those are rare. Taking this a step further and comparing mongering in Colombia, DR, Costa Rica, and Mexico - the same can be said about condom use. Hell, I have had instances in Tijuana some girls want to put two on. But in the one instance when my condom slipped off, I picked up Chlamydia from a Tijuana girl. Since this was in my beginning days of mongering this was one hell of a scary thing for me at the time. But then I met a working girl in Boystown in Nuevo Laredo that became my regular - we eventually stopped using a condom and I never caught anything (the coolest thing was that she actually had a US tourist visa somehow and I flew her in for business trips)

Thai girls also have pretty high coverage in condom usage compared to Filipina's, at least from what I have experienced.

Hence a higher rate of STD's in AC is just a given based on the ease of getting bareback. They are common other places as well, but more difficult to pick-up thanks to the higher use of condoms.

Now what intrigues me are the new Alles Ohne clubs in Germany. These are bareback sex clubs where an HIV test is given at the door (but from what I have heard, no other STD's are tested for).

AC is great in the fact that one can choose.....for the most part you do not have all this bullshit of fighting over covered BJ's, etc, like you have in many other places.

Why do mongers go bareback? In my case it was that I became more jaded and wanted more of a thrill. Also, when I lived in Rio for all those years I also pursued lots of non-working "regular" girls - Almost all allowed bareback, which in turn made fucking a working girl with a condom harder for me. It got so bad that I had instances where I completely lost my boner when the condom was pulled out. However, thanks to living there I was able to build a small network of semi-GDP's girls that were flexible on barebacking.

As DG already stated - BB just feels better! Right or wrong, I guess once you have tasted it, it is gets increasingly harder to return to condoms.

I have gotten tested many times....luckily nothing serious along the way. Chlamydia and gonorrhea, however, is almost a given at some point in the bareback mongering world. DG seems to be the exception......

BD - Good points and well stated however I question who puts the GDP's on leave since they typically are their own bosses. Agree with you and others the golden years in Rio have past. Prices are sky high for everything, not just the garotas. I'm not in the loop as to why they're turning up the heat on the termas but I wouldn't be surprised if law enforcement continues to ratchet it up as the Olympics approach. A real shame as it used to be a favorite destination of mine. If the visitor count is as depressed as you're stating I would understand a lower incident reporting but with that being stated I'm not so certain anyone one this board has the inside track for what types of testing is taking place at the clinics in either country and I would additionally consider regional resources and methods contribute as well in both countries.

Cat - Save the passive aggression for your choir, it goes absolutely nowhere with me. Seeing as how you're in Rio I would expect stronger contributions to this board on your behalf.

If you read the Brazilian sex boards, the guys post a fair of amount details about the girls and even call them "TD" (Test-Drive). They usually summarize Kiss-on-Mouth, BlowJob-NoCondom, and Anal. Brazilians love talking about the girl's ass, tits and to a certain extent the girl's hygiene. BUT rarely do they say they did the girl without a condom and cream-pied her. Does it happen?... I am sure it does but no where near as prevalent reading AC's Trip Reports on CH.

The Rio lower-end places (and there are a ton) I would say the majority will do BJ's with a condom with possibly an upsell charge on BBBJ. There are lots of working-class brasilian guys doing a whole lot of fucking and perhaps not as well educated as your average CH monger, but somehow they are "smart" enough to know you save the barebacking for your wife and a real girlfriend, not some puta. Just saying.

BBBJ upsell definitely a possibility in Brazil....bareback, I doubt it! Just look at the termas....BBBJ is relatively common, but bareback is not....but chances for STD's is low...all of them get tested, so that would seem to show that BBBJ is pretty low risk,

My BBFS batting average in Rio from 2002 - 2005 was .850 or higher with over 300 women in termas, massage places, escort sites and referrals.

Can't comment on how things have been since then, but when I returned in 2007 I was still batting .85.

If I had to say anything about how that happened? I'd say it had more to do with attitude and assumption than anything else. I would routinely treat the sessions like GFE and then close the deal BBFS with no questions asked.

To those who wonder about the evading 'the odds' admonished by all the BBFS naysayers, I have to ask:

How often did you follow the protocol outlined in the post above entitled

"DG's '99% Guaranteed Guide to Bareback Fun"

Perhaps there is a method to the madness...

Deeg

DeeG, you're just a special case. BB at 85% in Rio and no STDs? What can I say? I would hazard a guess that no other Brazil mongers have your average. Most guys I know who prefer and try to get BB service bat around the Mendoza line in Brazil.

Popcorn, the termas girls aren't their own bosses. They get fired all the time, and the houses do require they get tested and do put them on leave until they get a clean test. I've known a couple of girls who got dinged. With freelancers, you have no idea what you're going to get.

I was reading one of the Brasilian boards the other day and there was a discussion about a 4X4 puta who was marketing her services BB in the boate. The guys were outraged, and were talking about complaining to the manager. Brasilian guys that I've mongered with seem pretty insistent on condom use for vaginal and anal, but almost never for oral. I think this is because many are married and are not anxious to give their wives a present.

I'm not here to defend any specific destination. What triggered the country by country discussion was the implication that it's unlikely you'll be exposed to STD's in Brazil. It's obvious if you're bare backing anywhere you're chances of exposure are significantly heightened. True, more people bareback in AC as the girls don't mind to a large degree and most guys are ok with the risks. Also true, Brazil doesn't get anywhere near the coverage as the Philippines so combine those and you'll see a higher reported incidence in the PI Trip Reports.


There's lies, damn lies and statics. Having said that the World Health Organizations most recent findings (2009) reflect the Philippines with 136 cases of STD's and Brazil at 100 cases per 100,000 individuals.

http://www.who.int/healthinfo/global_burden_disease/estimates_country/en/index.html

Those statistics = 1 in 1,000 chance of contracting a STD in the general populace. Can anyone offer an educated guess at what the stats are when dealing with the bargirl populace?

Even if the health checks in AC bars are as poor as Bwana makes them out to be, a visual will catch many obvious issues. And if Blazers has barebacked 500+ Filipinas w/out catching anything, that indicates he's within the statistical odds.

DeeG,

You really are determined to make the world safer for barebacking! No, a visual inspection will catch obvious cases of warts, genital sores indicative of herpes, and ultra-smelly vaginal infections from a variety of STDs. What will it miss? The vast majority of cases of gonorrhea and chlamydia, and almost all cases of HPV, and probably 75% of cases of herpes where sores are healed but active viral shedding is still occurring.

The study of sex workers in the Philippines found exceptionally high rates of chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis (overall incidence = 56%). The good news? Low rates of HIV. But they didn't test for HPV, and you can bet that had they done so, the rate would have been about 100%, which is typical from the few studies that have tested for HPV in sex workers.

"The study of sex workers in the Philippines found exceptionally high rates of chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis (overall incidence = 56%)"

Bwana can I get a link to this study? Cuz if that's true, EVERYone of us who barebacks more than 2 bargirls should contract chlamydia, gonorrhea and/or syphilis, and that just plain isn't the case. Sorry pal - I gotta call 'bullshit' on that study.

Here's some data I've found about Philippines Sex Workers (with links ;) )

Additional factors. The prevalence of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) that cause ulcers (e.g., herpes), which are believed to facilitate HIV transmission, is relatively low; anal sex is relatively uncommon; and rates of circumcision (known to reduce the risk of men acquiring HIV in heterosexual intercourse) are relatively high.
(http://suite101.com/article/hiv-epidemic-likely-to-emerge-in-the-philippines-a236340)

One-third of women reported being intoxicated with alcohol at least once a month during the previous 6 months, and about 30% reported using alcohol before having sex with clients. In comparison with women who did not use alcohol before engaging in sex with clients, women who did so reported significantly less consistent condom use and higher rates of both current STIs and a history of STI. However, alcohol intoxication was not associated with condom use and STIs. These findings indicate event-specific rather than global associations of alcohol use with inconsistent condom use and STIs.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2943995/
DEEG NOTE - I WILL ALMOST ALWAYS PASS ON A GIRL WHO LOOKS LIKE SHE DRINKS A LOT, AND ALWAYS PASS ON DRUG USERS

Alls I'm sayin is - there appears to be as much MISinformation circulating around the WHO as any other government organization.

The possibility of developing an immunity was mentioned above. I would think that by now, if this was possible, Sancho would be immune to every STD.

Maybe the best way to prevent the spread of STD'would be to execute anyone with an STD.

No exeptions.

DeeG, if the study were on the web, you could. It's still in review and will be part of the WHO/UNAIDS country reports for 2012, posted in early 2013.

Note in that 2nd quote, the research found a relationship between inconsistent condom use "and higher rates of both current STIs and a history of STI." Does that "inconsistent condom use" sound just a bit like AC?

It's utterly undeniable that where you have lots of people fucking each other and inconsistent condom use, you will have higher rates of STDs. The lower the rate of condom use, the higher the likelihood of spread of infection. It's a simple principle that is borne out by 100 years of epidemiological data around the world. Why would it be any different in AC?

Let's face it. Guys like you and Blazers are lucky. Guys like IAS are typical.

Costar - What's the chance we could move beyond the STD discussion and see some pics of the ladies?

I vote for that!!!!

I already asked for the video

Photos? You mean like this?

Photo: Leopard Heels
Photo: Red Heels
Photo: Plaid Dress
Photo: French Maid

Whoa..the girl in the plaid dress....yikes! And I thought I went for younger looking girls..girl looks 13.

Raymond St. chick...she's 19, saw her ID. Name is Bea, model quality.

Hello KITTY!

Saw her ID? I would take a picture of her holding it. Better yet upload the pics to a server and reformat and toss that SD card. There about $8 for 4g these days anyways.
Even though you say they are legal and I believe you. You get the old crabby customs lady just looking to fuck with people like us and make our lives a living hell! Just not worth it to me.

Just saw her at her place. I was wrong-- she's 20. Mamasan says so, she says so, papers say so. If that's not enough for you or the folks around here, I don't have to fucking post any more pictures at all, believe me. Being the big man on campus has absolutely zero interest to me. I'm just passing along knowledge like folks who came before me did for me.

Popcorn: I will ask Hombre to break out the STD discussion to, say, Men's Health ...now that I've stopped laughing at your remark re: if you're "bare backing anywhere outside of the Vatican." We've really broached some important topics re: STDs here. Good discussion.

Guys, to get back on topic for this Makati report, and regarding photos, here is the $64 question:

Would it be ethical to post photos of the girl who gave me (er, sold me) the clap, since I am reasonably certain who it was?

If she were in the U.S.A. she could sue for allegations of a loathsome disease. The issue is: is it the right thing to do? She's only eighteen. On the other hand, it's true (not just allegation). Plus, I strongly suspect after our "come to Jesus" phone call that she knew very well that she was infected. What do you think?

Post nudes of her, as well as pics with her dressed in sack cloth and ashes photoshopped on her skanky ass, as a warning to all the loathsome lads considering barebacking in AC!! The madness must be stopped!!!

Costar, I think it's easier to just assume that every bargirl in AC has the clap, and plan accordingly. Posting pics of one girl when thousands of others are spreading the same shit doesn't really do anything.

Paulyvegas figured out what this thread was missing. Thanks for the photos. It looked like STD's had become an OCD...

Would it be ethical to post photos of the girl who gave me (er, sold me) the clap, since I am reasonably certain who it was? Yes, however I wouldn't recommend doing so, let it go. Any fallout wouldn't be worth it.

Like I said, I'm a human petri dish. I won't wear a rubber unless I find a 9 who insists on one, and those are rare here. 3 a day, here 7 days now and no disease. Fitting of our age I Tweet or Facebook a running tally...

Sign of the times. Brought two doorgirls back from Lollipop tonight and forget to ask them the condom question. They wouldn't relent on wanting one so we walked back to the bar to get my money back. It's ok, Plan B turned out just fine.

Photo: Doorgirl A - Lollipop
Photo: Doorgirl B - Lollipop

Been BB Filipina BG'S for 30 years, got the clap exactly 1 time, way, way back in the 80's.

I've BB'D girls from LA Cafe, Burgess st and AC consistently with 2 to 4 trips per year the past 10 years without any STD'S.

Was just tested for Aids 3 months ago, clean as a whistle, good day boys and cheers.

Please guys - enough of the 'I've never caught anything' already!

You'll upset the local witch doctors who insist our members will shrivel up and fall off if we ever bareback

Deeg

I'm not sure how it applies to this specific topic but I think it's important to point out here that the dark skinned girl in the yellow outfit that PV posted above, has a half black, half Filipina lesbian girlfriend and they put on one hell of a great pussy eating show and three way action.

IAS I trust you make them use dental dams for that show??

One can't be too careful afterall...

http://std.about.com/od/sextips/ht/safecunnilingus.htm

PV may well be living life in a petri dish because THREE of the ladies he posted above are my dearest girlfriends (those cheating sluts)

Interesting discussion but as usual Bwana Dik talking the most sense. I'd agree with the pro-Rio posters. However I'd argue barebacking is the norm in Rio outside the Termas and even they do when they're back at your apartment. It's been a couple of years since a non-Termas girl insisted on a condom (even first timers) although some might ask that you don't come inside them.

I've barebacked 100s of Rio girls and never caught anything. The only STDs (both times genital warts) I've ever caught were from a "respectable" Jewish girl in London and a Canadian lawyer so the skank test doesn't necessarily hold. TBH though I was on erythromycin and tetracycline for about a decade as I suffered from perioral dermatitis so that stopped me getting chlamydia. HPV and herpes I assume I already have. Wrt the latter maybe just don't show symptoms as I've never had a regular coldsore. My personal opinion is that HIV is pretty difficult for a guy to catch from regular sex and as DG saliently pointed out I probably do more damage to my body with the large amounts of rum I drink than BBFS.

One final point. The OP caught his STD from BBBJ. If I have to worry about covering up for BJs then I may as well just get married.

BTW nice pics, thanks PV.

On internet forums, there are always lots of guys who say they have been barebacking prostitutes for a million years, but never caught anything. I have also found guys on the internet who claim to have flown into space, made a zillion dollars off of penny stock trading, medal of honor winners, Navy Seals, etc. The reality is you will probably get at least the clap once or some other type of infection where you will be pissing razor blades...throw in a little HPV and some other nasty disease.

So its a good idea to wear a condom and to ignore the stories of Navy Seals and penny stock trading on the internet. You only have one life to live and so its a good idea to put on a helmet before you ride.

There are some porn stars out there who, despite all the testing, will not have sex without a condom.

"If I have to worry about covering up for BJs then I may as well just get married. "

Good line, Ardgneas!

Notice, I never once preached on condom use. Just pointed out the obvious facts. We all make our own decisions, but should do so with eyes open.

Now, back to the fucking...nice pics, PV. You have great taste. We both go for the spinners.

Bwana, this town kicks my ass. 4 today, I just couldn't say no. Women delivering themselves to me, women pursuing me in the BJ bars, women staring at me as they pass on Fields as I eat at Kokomos. I keep trying to make it down to Love and Music and 8 days in still haven't made it past Typhon and never make it. Last night, the Rhapsody doorgirl--pic attached. Just too much talent (even though I've lost a fish every night because she wants a rubber). Few mongers, lots of hungry chicas. Mmmmm...

Photo: Leopard
Photo: Glasses

Wow, PV, great girls. But is AC becoming the Land of Condoms? Maybe it's just door girls that want guys to rubber up.

PV - Just curious, how have you been handling this? Do you go back to the bar and ask back for your barfine, or to trade girls?

The spinner with the glasses is sex-on-a-stick hot....

Girl with glasses is that AC rare stunner..at least with clothes on.

There's ANOTHER of my dearest loves in the tiger suit again. I swear every time I turn my back on those little tramps for one minute they are out cheating on me with other guys.

I have some fantastic pictures of that one but I am quite certain they would put me WAYYY over my lifetime black pixel quota.

As usual PV has impeccable taste in women.

Thanks, guys. I'm saving the best shots for my trip report.

LovingMarvin, the condom question is the last in my interview during drinks. Happened again last night with a dancer in Infinity. Would have gone with her happily but she wouldn't come off the rubber. Just too much talent down the road that will, so have a nice life honey...the only chicks you DON'T have to ask about a condom are the BJ bar girls, who might want one, but can't or are afraid to ask for it.

Looking at this makes me want to go back
Thanks for sharing these great shots with nice girls.

Ardgneas, I also thought the OP caught it from a BBBJ the first time I read the post. But read it closer, I'm pretty sure it was from BBFS.

Just make sure that your first stop is Thailand, and then hit the PI, gotta keep our Thai girls pure LOL

There should be a seven day quarantine for all guys going to AC before they can monger in other locales.

Roadglide took the words right out of my mouth: on an open-jaws trip, everyone please hit Thailand first and the PI last! Then get well at home.

AGAIN!!

It wasn't me this time. A buddy who is an inveterate PI monger just caught the clap. He's not an AC- or Manila-goer. He goes elsewhere.

I had been thinking of giving the PI another try in a month, but this nixes it.

The Philippine islands are poisonous.
The clap is out of control there.
The clap is unstoppable.
Phuck the Phils.

Hi guys;
Kind of late for this coment but only want to say is everybodys personal business what they do or how they do it, respect it all.
As for me, i will only do safe sex; which means using a CONDOM!!!. it is 100 % safe, well, sure is a lot safer than going bareback, don't think anybody can dispute it. and if go down on a bar girl??? well, only if i use a plastic covering (still would have a good time if doing it), know sounds ridiculous but safer for me and is rare i would go down on any bargirl; way too many health risk and won't loose my common sense. remenber, beauty is skin deep.
Just be safe and have fun. there is nothing out there worth ruining your life and health.///

MarcoPolo

You use a plastic sheet when eating the girl out? Condoms when they give you a blow job too?

You married or something?

Why exactly was this thread brought back to life? To preach about condoms? We are all adults (I hope) and make our own informed decisions.

To this day I still caught something only back in the 80's and continue to BB every trip.

Get tested for everything under the sun including aids and hep c and am still clean as a whistle.

But I will say many girls are getting smarter and demanding condoms and they will not back down. But if you take them 2 or 3 times they most likely will back down and go BB.

And I eat every girls pussy I go with.

Don dingo;
I like that statement of yours: "Pray to the Gods"; good choice, love it, i think is funny (no disrespect at all) and it shows you have a lot of broad views when putting your thoughts in paper.
Blazers;
getting tired with your comments but is ok, already vaccinated against such remarks in life !!! i tend to forget about them in 5 seconds!!! like flies in the beach!!!
At the end we ALL ADULTS and live our own lifes. safe sex, unsafe sex, no sex; well, my choice, your choice, anybodys choice, we don't have to agreed or live by them, just plain and simple real life.
Now with this fly nuissance aside, lets talk about pussy and monger trips.

MarcoPolo

Well, OK, MarcoPolo, but please, no more discussion on your philosophy of safe sex, or that you respect other choices. No disrespect intended, but we really don't give a damn what you think, and don't know why you need to gratuitously keep posting about it.

Traveling 16-24 hours to lick Saran Wrap sounds like a waste of time, effort and money to me.