| By E. L. Nine on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - 07:12 am: Edit |
This is my personal perspective on two memorable days in La Zona Roja in Tijuana. Not all bad, not all good. Read on.
After reading so many trip reports on this board (Thanks guys!) and having spent one afternoon there with a local a few years ago, I decided to take a long weekend and do the full TJ experience.
I made my reservations less than a week in advance and this was perhaps the single biggest cost line item. Had I planned out more than 3 weeks ahead of time, I could have cut my airfare to 1/4 what it was. I also wanted to decide ahead of time which hotel I would stay at for 2 nights. I though I would be staying at the Rizo De Oro (Golden Curl) Hotel above the Tropical bar. I went for one of the high end Jacuzzi Rooms and they actually gave me a room at the Cascadas next to the Hong Kong club, which is run by the same management.
Reading various trip reports, I saw that guys were often giving Regalos (gifts) to the girls in addition to cash. I wasn't quite sure what to bring, but this is one place I scored really well. I went to a "Big Lots" store and bought a bunch of large chocolate bars at roughly $2 a piece. These really went over well with the girls. A few facts in life: The world is round, Dogs like bones, and women crave chocolate!
I landed in San Deigo and took the 992 bus (cost $2.50 - exact change required) to the America Plaza Trolley Station. The bus leave every half hour and the ride takes roughly 10 minutes. The bus leaves you a bit past the trolley stop. Follow the other locals making the same connection. The trolley costs another $2.50. The machine gives change in $1.00 coins.
I had arranged to call the club to give me a free pick-up before I crossed the San Yisidro border. A small hiccup was that my T-Mobile phone had already switched over to a Mexican cell and I had to dial +1 to reach the U.S. Hong Kong/Tropical reservations number. I have an international calling plan so using one phone is no real problem. (Just be careful who you call and why you are calling from Mexico.) Crossing from the U.S. to Mexico was a breeze but crowd control on the Mexico side between people just arriving and those going back north gave new meaning to the term "human trafficking." The pickup was not as convenient as I expected. They asked me to meet the car at a gas station. After asking around, I finally found the PEMEX station after I crossed the bridge beyond the border. I told the driver that I was at the Rizo De Oro, but when I got to the check-out counter, I was told that my room was actually at the Cascasas. (I though- Uh-oh, I had read too many problems with the Cascadas guest policy, but then again I like the Hong Kong club and it was not a bad choice after all.)
The Jacuzzi suite was medium sized and consisted of a fairly comfortable queen sized bed, a stand-up shower, a small bathroom and a long (not round) whirlpool tub that was barely big enough for two. The hot water took a long time to get hot but it did eventually work. The low-flow shower took even longer. There were two light switches for red and white room lights, an air conditioning switch (no thermostat - the room was either too hot or cold but not too bad.) The bathroom had its own light and fan and there were headboard light near one of the two night tables. There were also some well placed U.S. compatible wall outlets for your phone chargers and such. There were plenty of small packs of soap, shampoo, and bubble bath which were replenished when the room was cleaned. There was the requisite TV hanging on a wall with no remote but with one button in the back to turn it on to a porno channel. I liked the touch of erotic artwork which seemed to be drawn (printed?) on a real canvas. If you want to see what these rooms look like, go and browse the girl galleries in the Hong Kong club website. Just remember that the photographers brought their own lights during these shoots so the room looks quite a bit brighter than it really is - but nevertheless, it was clean and well kept up.
Now, the (really) big problem with the room - NOISE! It was on an alcove above the back lobby on the Cascadas. There was a bar next door (not the Hong Kong) which was playing Mexican music LOUDLY 24 hours. There was also a radio playing, not to mention the screeching call buzzer that would let select people though the back door. My first night there was terrible! (more on this later). I solved this problem the next day by going to a nearby Farmicia and buying a pack of yellow earplugs. These worked amazingly well! They completely blocked out the noise and I was able to get some good shut-eye the next night. They also come with a little plastic container so they are easy to carry in your bag. I highly recommend these if you need a good sleep even if you party hard (and maybe the girl you invite will appreciate them too.)
The Hong Kong club was my base of operations for most of the trip. This place is large and crowded - with both men and scantily clad women. The place takes mostly U.S. Dollars but of course also takes Mexican Pesos. I suggest taking as much U.S. cash with you as you will need and use the ATM to get some Pesos locally that you will completely spend. You will probably get a better exchange rate with the ATMs than with the money changers.
The music was mostly typical U.S. strip bar slow rock, rap and hip-hop and and I tended to hear the same songs over again, such as O.T. Genasis' American Narcocorrido "Coco". (I've got baking soda, I've go baking soda!) Some of the girls mistook songs such as Pink Floyd's "Comfortably numb" or Gun's N' Roses "Knocking On Heavens Door" as being romantic. NOT!
Beer and soft drinks are $4-$6 and Ficha drinks for the girls (which they split the profit with the house) are $8 for a small bottle of beer + $1 tip. The waiter writes the girl's name down on each of her fichas so there is no issue with stealing between the girls. I generally expect to do 2-3 of these to get to know the girl and by then she should slow down and you should have more time together to enjoy each other. Avoid guzzlers!
Unlike some guys on this board, I was more interested in girls who are relatively new to this scene and are not too hard-boiled. I first ask their name and look at their response. Speaking fluent Spanish help A LOT. I then ask them how long have they worked at the club? If it is more than a few weeks, then maybe I should move on.
My first choice, Sirena, turned out to be a pretty good one. She had been there for about three weeks. We had a couple of Ficha drinks, and then I decided it was time to move on to the hotel. She first quoted $100 and I countered $60 which she immediately accepted. We go to the back door of the club where I give the attendant $1 for the black or red boxing smock that the girls wear when stepping out of the club to go just a few feet away to the hotel.
We went to my room and had a good time. (Sorry guys, no gory details here. Move on if you're just looking for cheap thrills.)
After the main festivities were over, I brought out my selection of chocolate bars and really enjoyed the smile on her face at this unexpected touch. These girls can barely read (let alone read English) so I had to explain what was clearly labeled that one bar was coconut, another was 63% cocoa, the other is a stronger 70%, etc. (I've seen them go as high as 84% but that is typically too strong and bitter)
I ask Sirena if she is interested in coming back tonight por toda la noche (all night long) and she said that she ends her shift at 11PM and might do it then. I took that as a definite maybe and she left happily and I considered my first sita a success.
I cleaned up. It was around 4PM when I went back to the Hong Kong club ready for my next experience.
There are so many different little areas where the girls show themselves off. There are the requisite stripper poles everywhere in stages of all sizes and shapes. There are a couple of raised areas where a pair of girls often do lesbian foam shows. The girls cover the stage with water, oil and shaving cream, strip down to a tiny G-string, and for once, they take off those huge platform shoes that they are so fond of. (Why oh why? Is small stature necessarily bad? For me it means "spinner.") The girls get down and clean with the guys sitting around the table allowing men to prod an poke (and sometimes eat) their private parts while guys literally shower soggy $1 bills on them from the balcony above. Suddenly I hear cheering and it was clear that a non-working woman (someone's wife/girlfriend) had come into the club and was practically attacked by the girls on stage. She got covered in shaving cream while the girls tried to rip off her clothes. She managed to get off the stage with most of her dignity intact. The next day, I also saw a fat ugly guy getting lathered on-stage with two foam girls. He was almost as reluctant as the woman before but it was all in good fun.
Looking around, I saw her - Yajaira - (Remember, in Spanish, J is pronounced like English H and H is silent - so her name sounds like "Yah HIGH Rah") She was petite, had a mushroom tattoo on her shoulder and another on her lower back. She also had a tongue piercing which looked like she was always had a pill in her mouth. (She told me that she was not into drugs and the mushroom was just her favorite food. hmmm.) That day, she was sporting a Camouflage bikini and platform shoes with black and white striped leggings which completely covered the shoes. I told her later that the shoes made her look like a Tijuana zebra donkey, which we both got a good laugh over. She told me that she had only been working in the club for three days so she was quite inexperienced. We hit it off and she was honestly enjoying talking with me. This was just the type of girl that I was looking for. After a couple of Fichas I ask her how much to go up to the room. She said that she honestly didn't know. I offered $50 and she accepted. We went up to the room and she asked for the money up front. I told her that its usually good form to take the money after its all done but I gave her the cash anyway. We then got into a conversation that she needs to be smart and should judge the man that she is with as to whether he is trustworthy and whether she should ask for money up front or not. She immediately offered the money back until we were done and I told her to keep it. It's hers.
I don't usually give too many details but I will say this. I like a woman who's wet for me and this girl did not disappoint. She claimed that she came twice and I'm usually good about spotting fakers.
Afterwards we relaxed and I taught her some English, Her English skills were mediocre but not horrible. She enjoyed this and she REALLY enjoyed the chocolate that she selected from my collection.
I wanted to spend more time with this girl. She told me that she was hungry so I suggested that I would treat here to a nearby restaurant. She told me that she was not allowed to leave the club but we could order room service. I'm not much for this and I told her that I don't really like the smell of food in the room afterward. We agreed to have dinner together upstairs at the club.
We found a private table in the Hong Kong club balcony overlooking a stage that later became a foam show. We ordered a bacon-wrapped shrimp dish and a ceviche. The price at $32 was reasonable for restaurant food back in the USA, the food was good and the portions were HUGE. I had already had a big lunch before I crossed the border so I wasn't particularly hungry and there was more than enough in the shrimp dish alone for both of us. (It was all served on Styrofoam "to go" clam-shells so I ended up having the ceviche for breakfast the next morning - but I'm getting ahead of myself.)
After dinner and a couple of ficha drinks, I asked her if she wanted to stay with me Toda La Noche and maybe use the Jacuzzi and I had a few pleasant surprises in store for her, but she told me the same story as Sirena, she could not do this until she got off of her shift at 1AM. I told her that I would come back and look for her around 12:30. Yajaira was just the type of girl that I was looking for during this trip and I know whom I wanted to sleep with me tonight. I told her to earn all the money she could during the rest of the evening and we agreed on a reasonable price for an all night session.
I left the Hong Kong club feeling high as a kite. So far everything was going according to plan. It was time to visit the rest of the Zona, so I started looking in each bar to see what was happening. Every place was blaring music louder than the next. A couple had live bands. Some of them reeked of body odor and cigarette smoke more than they did of alcohol and were clearly only frequented by downscale locals. (Although a few girls lit up, the Hong Kong club was relatively smoke free - except for the occasional fog machine.) The Adelita Bar was crowded but the Chicago Club was almost completely empty on a Saturday night. I have no idea why. I must admit however that the girl working the pole and the big ring at the CC was a really good gymnast and she could probably make it as a circus performer. Unfortunately, the girl that replaced her for the next song was not nearly as talented.
Mostly what you see around the Zona, however, is girls - girls - girls - of all shapes and sizes and probably not quite as pretty as what you find inside the big clubs. Their price matches their desirability. I decided that I wanted to try out a streetwalker. After passing up what clearly looked and sounded like a ladyboy, I met Carla. We quickly made a deal and we went to her hotel where I paid a small fee, even though I had the room at the Cascadas. I did not want to make any trouble with the outside girl policy.
The session was OK but you get what you pay for. The room was simple but clean. She was also very good about safety and insisted on using a condom for everything oral and beyond, as did all the girls I met.
Afterward, we relaxed and told me a little more about her story. A familiar theme was emerging. These girls are in their 20's and already have 1 or more children whom they bore as teenagers. The fathers abandoned them for various reasons. They had jobs as salespeople or factory workers and sometimes still keep those jobs on their off days but they are having a hard time making ends meet so they work in the Zona where their feeling about working there are decidedly mixed. The condom is perhaps their only form of birth control (both for contraception and for protection). Mexico is a very Catholic country. Perhaps if the Church were not so hell bent against birth control, there would be fewer unwanted babies and fewer girls working on the streets. Just one of the life's ironies.
I then decided to try out one of the dance halls/bars. (one that didn't smell too bad) There were lots of locals and plenty of average looking women (I won't call them girls anymore) available to get picked up and earn fichas. I sat down with one of them for a while and was about to ask her out to a room but for some reason, she disappeared and that was that.
Walking down the Avenida De Revolucion is an experience that should not be missed. I especially like the rag-tag bandas and mariachis playing all sorts of dilapidated brass instruments in crazy shapes looking like they have been repaired way too many times. They managed to put out a decent sound however.
It was getting late and I decided to wander back to the Hong Kong club. On Saturday night, there was even a stage where a woman was performing Nyotaimori or body sushi. This is a Japanese tradition where men eat sushi served on top of a nearly naked woman lying down on a table. I had seen pictures and read stories of this and envisioned exclusive men's clubs where high ranking businessmen, politicians and Yakuza (Japanese Mafia) discuss back room deals over the night's entertainment while the girl, who should remain entirely motionless throughout the whole ordeal, listens in on the conversations and secretly spies for the enemy clan. The Hong Kong club's version of all of this was decidedly downscale. For a buck you can eat a piece of Sushi of your choice - and it did not taste all that good, but it was a good try.
I then looked for, and eventually found Yahaira among the massive crowd. She was really happy to see me again and it was close to the end of her shift so off we went to my room. Once we got there, she realized that she had to get back into her street clothes. She told me that she had to go back to the club and she would be back in 15 minutes. AND THIS IS WHERE I MADE MY BIG MISTAKE! I decided to stay behind and set up the room for the night's festivities and I did not get her cell phone number! 15 minutes rolled by as did 1/2 hour and then 1 hour. By 2:15AM I gave up and called it a night - very frustrated and disappointed. The hotel noise was horrible and I was getting a hangover from the beers I had during the day. My guess is once she was outside, she could not reenter the hotel by herself. Had I went back to the club with her, or had we exchanged numbers, all would have been well. Live and learn.
I got up (won't say "woke up") the next day, bleary eyed and disappointed but determined to make the most of my vacation. I decided to see what was going on at the Adelita Bar at 9:00AM on a Sunday. The place was nearly but not completely empty. I met Jessica and I had a coke while she had a couple of ficha drinks. The music was OK so I stood up and invited her to dance. This girl didn't even know how to dance and I taught her a few basic steps. The other girls looking on were joking, "Que romantico" as if I would have been dancing with swine. I got the hint and took Jessica up to a room that she was much more familiar with. The room at the Adelita was decent and the session was not all that bad, all things considered.
The Adelita Store has a prominent corner location but I agree with others on this board that who in his right mind would buy branded clothing from one of the most well known hooker bars in the western hemisphere? The place was empty except for the one shop keeper. My guess is that this is set up as a money laundering operation for some of the other transactions going down which the songs in the Hong Kong club alluded to.
Later, I went back the the Hong Kong club where I was told that Yajaira was not working today, thus dashing my hopes of seeing her again. There's more fish in the ocean so I found Laura who was not bad for an afternoon fling. I considered bringing her back tonight for toda la noche and this time, I made it a point to write down her cell number.
In the evening, I spent some time dancing with one girl at a corner bar with a live band that was entirely too loud but by this time, I was feeling quite drained and I called it a night and passed up the chance to bring Laura back to the room.
The next morning I packed and headed back to the border. Give yourself at least 3 hours to cross the border into the U.S. Fortunately I did and barely got to San Diego airport (which was also crowded) in time for my flight back home.
Not bad for a 48 hour vacation. Would I do it again? Perhaps but maybe just for one night unless I combine the trip with other activities.
Yahaira, I spent a very pleasant afternoon with you. Wherever you are now, you have a small piece of my heart and this trip report is dedicated to you.
| By Scatmandoo on Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 11:51 pm: Edit |
Thank you for the report E.L.Nine.
From your description of your room at Cascades, it is hard to tell if you stayed in a Master Suite (rooms numbered 329, 429, 529, 629 & 226 are the Master Suites that I know of) or a junior jacuzzi suite (one junior J suite is room numbered 215 or 217 near the conference center and entry to the balcony overlooking the alley). It seemed as if you might have gotten a junior jacuzzi suite with an oval tub that's close to the size of a bathtub.
With a 100 pesos refundable deposit for each item, at Cascades & Rizo de Oro you can often get a TV remote, a key for the safe, room entry card/key and/or a remote control for the A/C-Heater unit (if your room is equipped with these creature comforts).
Master Suites come equipped with a large Jacuzzi and a small refrigerator. The junior jacuzzi room I've been in had no fridge.
| By E. L. Nine on Friday, June 12, 2015 - 06:45 am: Edit |
Scatmandoo, It was Junior Suite 219 at the far end of the balcony, hence the noise. It had an oval whirlpool tub, not much bigger than a regular bathtub but no fridge.
| By Popcorn on Friday, June 12, 2015 - 09:03 pm: Edit |
"Yahaira, I spent a very pleasant afternoon with you. Wherever you are now, you have a small piece of my heart and this trip report is dedicated to you"
No doubt Yahaira will be ecstatic to read you've dedicated this post to her, just think twice before you get in too deep. Looks as though you enjoyed your time in TJ. Salud!
| By Blazers on Friday, June 12, 2015 - 10:18 pm: Edit |
Excellent report. Sounds like TJ from the perspective of a math professor.
Why are you scared to post any details at all about the session? You dont have to write porn and can withhold some details but letting readers know whether the girl does DFK, bbbj, bbfs are important details. If you arent comfortable with disclosing those details then say what the strength and weakness of the girl is. Otherwise, why post the girls name at all.
| By E. L. Nine on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 07:17 am: Edit |
@popcorn,
I hope Yahaira does get this post, but I'm also realistic. I'm out already and probably won't be coming back for a while.
@Blazers,
If you ask for many more details, they are already getting blurry in my head. All of the girls I met on this trip were very safe and strictly did CBJ CFS and perhaps LK. Carla offered Greek for an extra price but I declined. Jessica from AB put a pillow on the floor and did a full inspection of the family jewels on her knees before putting on the cover. Honestly I would be scared of anyone - in or out of the zona - who would allow BBFS for the first 1/2 hour session after we just met.
(Message edited by elenine on June 14, 2015)
| By Blazers on Sunday, June 14, 2015 - 03:42 pm: Edit |
So you are required to obtain covered bjs because you are concerned about bringing back something to your wife?
| By E. L. Nine on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 06:32 am: Edit |
@blazers,
I said that all of the girls did cbj. I may have gone either way on this but did not argue. However, anyone who does bbfs with these girls is really playing with fire.
| By Blazers on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 04:27 pm: Edit |
Just a word of advice, if you negotiate it ahead of time, most bargirls will do a bbbj if you negotiate. If they dont take the offer, then there are tons of hot girls that will. Sg's are a different animal. I would think a covered BJ would be a deal breaker as they are about as enjoyable as sticking your dick in a wall.
BBFS is risky with long time vet bargirls and SG's. I try to find the newbies. You have limited time, so it makes it more difficult.
| By E. L. Nine on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 08:17 pm: Edit |
With a name like Blazers, I guess you do like to play with fire! To each his own.
| By Marcopolo on Sunday, June 28, 2015 - 10:45 pm: Edit |
E.L. nine;
I couldn't have said it better; "to each his own"; i do realise some mongers do enjoy and don't mind doing it without condoms but i truly believe in safe sex. said it before, this is a way of life we choose and we would have to live up the consequences of our actions.
If some guys want to be on the Russian roulette deal, their choice, not mine!!! also true that some gals whenever they are from do like the no condoms deal but you also got your segment that is protection above all.
i tend to beleive i want enjoy life and have fun, same as the gals i party with, so simply put it; why mess with the fun????
be safe guys and no need to kill the messenger.
Marcopolo
| By E. L. Nine on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 07:46 am: Edit |
@marcopolo
Thank you! Actually, I absolutely hate using condoms. On the other hand, I hate the consequences of not using them even more.
Sometimes I like to play games with a girl to see how close to the edge she will go by getting her to the peak of passion to the point that she is about to forego protection and then "rescue" her at the last minute. Some girls get markedly cooler when you put on a cover. After we had been together a few times, I was flattered when one girl asked me for a blue eyed child. I had to disappoint her that I don't have blue eyes.
@blazers
I'm no math professor but I was accused of being one at a nightclub once when I beat a bunch of people at musical chairs using a step function and then I out-danced a stripper and won a bottle of champagne for my date and me by audience acclaim and many bows from the other contestants.
| By d'Artagnan on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 11:53 am: Edit |
Nice report! Just out of curiosity, would this be Sirena -- (Rachel (B) - Sinaloa - Hong Kong |PHOTO|)? Judith (her original name) has been cycling through names and going back and forth between Adelitas and Hong Kong for a while.
| By Mrtbkk on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 09:45 pm: Edit |
E.L. Nine,
Great report. If you are into the GFE just note most of the day shift girls get off work around 5-7pm so you can always take them out with no extra (house) charge to dinner.
I've stayed at Cascadas and have never had an issue bringing in a non hk girl to my room from any entrance.
Always a great idea to get their # and since you were staying in Cascadas they have free wifi which works in parts of hk. Most the girls there have tango, what'sapp, etc so it's easy and free to text/talk.
Always good to set up 1-2 over nighters that way if one flakes you're not left hang in'. Just last week I was supposed to meet a semi regular of mine after her shift. She texts me 15 mins late , 'where are you' all the while I'm in hk looking at her downing drink after drink with a crew of guys. LOL as they say in Thailand 'money #1' . I let it be and met my other chica 30 mins later.
| By E. L. Nine on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 07:43 am: Edit |
@d'Artagnan - I don't think I met either of the girls in the picture. Sirena said that she had only been working in TJ a few weeks and she did look fairly "fresh."
@Mrtbkk - Thanks for the pointers. The girls seemed to have their own shifts and their own off-times. I agree that with these girls, anything is possible and keep your options open.