Hola, mongers.

I had a great experience going to a hotel with a dancer after hours, so I thought I'd share it for the benefit of those wondering if and/or how this might be done. Mind you, I'm not a veteran at this, so I'm not saying you'll have the same experience. Maybe I got lucky (I sure think so...), but it's definitely possible to have a perfectly good motel session with a dancer without getting robbed or just plain ripped-off. $100 bucks for an hour in the comfort of your own hotel room beats the living shit out of $50 for 5 minutes in a nasty 5'x5' "cell" any day!

I went down to Nogie a while back for the usual bar scene - buncha lap dances, BJ and a FS. It was a fairly slow night, so I ended up talking to this one waitress/ticket gal quite a bit. She remembered me from talking to me on my last trip down there, so we had a pretty good rapport. Last time I was there, she managed to get me to me buy her and her friend a couple "girl drinks" (which are $10: $5 for the house and $5 goes to the girl - not really sure what the purpose of these are...) I asked her if she danced, and she said she only does private dances - I think that's the policy with most of the waitresses - they can't give you a lap dance but they can give you a private if they want. Anyway, I ended up buying her a couple of "girl drinks" because I felt a little sorry for her for not making as much money as the other girls, and for being such a nice girl - she never tried to scam me or anything. I also tipped her for every drink and some of the tickets I bought from her (just trying to be nice - honest!)

After I'd shot most of my cash (and some creamy, white stuff) and was ready to leave, I figured I'd ask her, just out of curiosity, if any of the girls would go to a hotel with you. She responded by saying, more or less, "Which one do you want?" I was really only asking for future reference, but her answer to my question prompted me to reply, "That one", and I pointed out this looker who was real sweet and gave me a great deal on a FS earlier in the evening (for which she was tipped nicely). She then asked me "How long?" I said, "An hour?" I don't remember which one of us brought up price, but she told me it would be $100 for an hour. So she asked me if I wanted her to ask the dancer if she'd go with me, so I thought, "What the Hell..." and said "Sure". She came back a while later and told me that the girl would meet me in front of one of the other bars in five minutes or so. She explained that this was because the dancer would get in trouble if they saw her leaving with me. From what I gather by lurking around this board a bit, I took this to mean that the bar would not be involved at all in the transaction, and they'd be pissed from not getting their cut.

So I bade my waitress "adios", gave her a little peck on the cheek and headed outside. She never asked me for a dime. I headed around the corner and waited on a doorstep outside the other bar that the waitress mentioned. There were plenty of people around and it was well-lit (probably why this spot was chosen), so I didn't mind waiting around for a while by myself. I was about 90% sure she wouldn't show up, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to wait around a while to find out. The last time I tried this in the 'States I got stood-up... I kept looking over my left shoulder to see if she'd show - I didn't want her to come by and not see me out there. Then I looked over my right shoulder and there she was - just her and the cabbie. Woo-hoo!!

So we jumped in the cab and off we went. I told her that I had to go to an ATM to get the money to pay her, so that was our first stop. I was too clueless to operate a Mexican ATM, so we had to try another one. She got out and helped me with it this time, and I got the money. Fortunately, there are plenty of ATMs w/in a few blocks of the border.
Her English wasn't so hot, and my Spanish was only a little better, but we managed to get by. I figured out that she was asking me if I liked to drink beer. This ended up meaning that she wanted to go by a drive-though liquor store and get a six pack and some smokes. I didn't object to that. I took it as a good omen, that she just probably wanted to unwind a little after work. She asked the cabbie if it was okay to drink in the cab (not sure if that's legal or not down there) and we finished off one of the beers in the cab. At one point, she asked me if I liked to smoke. "Smoke what?", I asked. I think she meant cocaine - I don't know if she was implying that we get some or not, but I just said "no" and that was the end of it.

I wasn't really worried, but I got a little more nervous with each block that we drove South. I had no idea where the hotel was going to end up being - I sure as hell didn't want to end up in some pimp's apartment somewhere 50 blocks from the border. My apprehension ended up being unfounded. We tried one hotel fairly close to the border which had "no vacancia". We had better luck with the next one. I was obviously a gringo and she was obviously a stripper, but they didn't seem to have a problem giving us a room. I enjoyed watching the hombre in the lobby eyeball her perfect (and 100% real) C-cup titties and thinking, "It's all mine, hombre." I made sure that it would be okay if I spent the night there, not knowing if it was an hourly joint or something. It was just a regular hotel, however. Once we were fixed up with a room, she told me the cabbie needed $20. I thought that was fair - he did make 5 stops and waited around for us at each one. The room was $40 - I think it was $20 for the room and $20 for the deposit, which I would get back in the morning. Whatever...

The hotel was pretty decent. Not knowing what to expect from a Mexican hotel that caters to hookers (or at least tolerates them), I was pleasantly surprised. It was basically a poor man's Motel 6. Big room, clean, two beds and cable TV. After we both used the bathroom, she asked what kind of music I liked. She wanted to find a TV station playing music that I might like. Another good sign, I thought. We still struggled with the language barrier, but I got the feeling that she wanted to unwind a bit before getting to it, so we had a couple of beers and a cigarette, trying to make small-talk in really bad Spanglish.

Only then did the subject of money come up. She asked me something like "how much would I pay her". "Here we go...", I thought, "...this is where the price goes up..." I told her that the waitress told me it would be $100, trying to make it clear that this is what I'd agreed to, though knowing that I hadn't in fact negotiated this with the dancer herself. She seemed okay, but not thrilled, with that price and indicated that this would be fine. I told her something like "maybe more...", trying to indicate that I might want another hour or two if I still felt like it afterwards. I think she might have thought that this meant "maybe more if I liked it". Either way, there was incentive for her to do a good job.

After the business part of the evening was out of the way (I hadn't paid her yet, only agreed on the price), we got down to business. I very much like the GF (GirlFriend) type experience, so I wanted a little foreplay at first. She was cool with that and didn't rush me. So far, so good. I knew from previous experience in the 'States that some working girls will just try to make you cum as quickly as possible so they can say that their part of the bargain is done and split. Not the case this time.

Poor girl... I'd already come twice earlier in the evening back at the club, and more than a few beers rolling-around in my stomach didn't help - so let's just say she had to be rather "patient" with me that night. (Next time I won't waste it in the fucking club!) But what a trooper! Not one complaint, and she was genuinely happy that she'd satisfied me. The intercourse, in whatever position I wanted, was punctuated by more foreplay and a nice BBBJ (bare-back blow job). I really liked the girl so I tried to do a few things that she might enjoy, and I'll be damned if she didn't enjoy it!

She didn't even ask me what time it was until about 80 minutes had passed. Though pretty much spent, I really didn't mind the idea of another hour or two with this girl, so I offered her some more time. She explained that her family expects her home at 3:00 AM (it was 3:30), and that she just couldn't stay. She really wanted to, though. She was honestly disappointed that she had to go, and asked me when I'd be coming back. She explained that she only worked on Friday and Saturday nights, and that I should come back earlier in the evening for her. I asked her if I could see her on a weekday when she wasn't working, and she said "yes". I even managed to get her number, but I didn't write it down, and I'm not sure if that was her real number or not anyway. I knew how to find her again - that was good enough.

I paid her after she went to the bathroom one last time before she left - she didn't have to ask me for the money. I gave her the $100 + $20 for being such a great time, which she appreciated. Boy, was I sorry to see her go. I finished off another beer and hit the sack. I woke up at 7:00 AM the next morning and thought, "Oh shit, where the fuck am I and how am I going to get home?". Being totally disoriented from what seemed a long cab ride down the night before, I had no idea where I was. I simply told the gentleman in the lobby that I needed a "taxi, por favor." He picked up the phone, spoke to someone, and then told me something in Spanish that I didn't understand, so I just said, "muchas gracias". The cab was on the spot in about three minutes. Turns out I was only about about three blocks from the border, but I was glad to be out of there with a few bucks in my pocket and no regrets.

Like I said, I definitely think I was rather lucky that night. It was a great experience, especially knowing that the girl seemed to have a good time, too. My biggest stroke of luck was picking the right girl, that's for sure. I don't know if she was naive, new to the business or just hadn't been tainted yet, but she was a real sweetheart whatever the case. I think the other factors were being somewhat familiar (at least to my waitress), seeming trustworthy, being a good tipper, and most important of all, being a nice guy ;-) Bypassing the management is definitely a smart move, too!! (I've heard they'll want at least $100 more for themselves).

I had approached other dancers back in the 'States about a little moonlighting - with mixed results. Sometimes they just told me "I don't know", knowing that they did know but didn't want to tell me. I think it must help to establish rapport and trust with the girl and any third parties that might be involved. The dancer had gained my trust by giving me a great deal on a little FS, with a little extra time to boot. Add a nice tip and we're both happy. This is a girl that is less likely to rip me off. I had a good rapport with my waitress, too, and she'd seen me treat the dancers with nothing but respect.

Doing everything you can to make the experience at least pleasant, if not fun, seems to work wonders, too. My girl was relaxed and not in a hurry. If I see her again, I might take her out to dinner and buy her a couple of drinks, and put her in the mood to want to show me a good time again.

Peace -

Nice Report Bubba:
BTW, What club was it that you was at? What time did it close down? Very interesting stuff!

It was Lipstick's. I was there on a Saturday night. We actually left the bar before it closed - about 1:30 AM (I think they close at 3:00 or so). In my case that meant the girl had to leave early - other girls might want to wait until the bar closes so they don't risk getting caught. If you try it, just remember to keep management out of the loop. You might want to look for a waitress/ticket girl named Azul - she's short with brown hair - may be dressed in street clothes (as opposed to the waitress garb). Ask her which girls might go to a hotel with you. Or you might just ask the girl directly. It probably wouldn't hurt to get a private from her first to see if you think you can trust her (and vice-versa). Just be discreet - don't get the girls in trouble. Happy mongering!

OK, here's (I think) the low-down on getting Lipstick's girls to go to a hotel with you.

Bear in mind that this may only apply to Lipstick's, as it's the only place I've tried it. In fact, seeing that Lord Black's/Placer's (owned by same people) have a room for something like $200/hour, they'd probably charge you an arm and a leg for it. It might also be instructive that Lipstick's, Cherry's and Rio are (I believe) owned by the same people. You might therefore be able to get a similar deal with Cherry's and Rio, but I'm really not sure.

Anyhoo... I got to Lipstick's at about 11:30 PM and the place was dead. I only went there to see if I could get my favorita for another hotel session, this time, toda la noche. Last time I was able to arrange this for free (her leaving the bar, not the sex). But last time (it was explained to me) w/o the bar fine because it was so late (almost 2:00 AM). This time, it was only about 11:30 or so, so I had to pay a $50 bar fine (may be more expensive and/or elusive when business picks back up this fall - not sure) to get the girl to leave with me. Not a bad deal, in my book. BTW, the girl was $100/hour, and $200/toda noche, but YMMV (your mileage may vary).

What is weird is that I still had to wait around outside and meet her out there, around the corner. And I had to hide for a while around the corner until it was deemed safe to jump into the taxi and split with her. So it was like it was okay, although it really wasn't completely. My theory is that they will do it (let the girl leave), but they don't want to advertise it - either because they don't want la policia to find out, or don't want to advertise this to the customers, since some of their best talent would be absent and there'd be less hombres buying drinks and dances. Just my theory - let me know if you know any better. I'll ask more questions next time.

Knowing this, however, I'll never again pay $20 (private dance) + $50 for 3 minutes of sex when I can get a hotel session for just a little more!

In my last post, I'd assumed that I got the girl to leave with me because I was a good tipper and such a nice guy (LOL). But really, I think you just have to ask! But anything you can do to build a rapport with the girl and the ticket person will probably enhance your chances (and your mileage).

I would still urge, however, that you be as discreet as possible about it. I'm still not sure how "above-board" this practice is, and not sure if the management encourages it or not. Best not spoil a good thing. Build a rapport with either the chica and/or the ticket person and, it seems logical, your chances will improve.

Happy mongering!

P.S. Let us know if your mileage varies (or not)!