Nogales sucks. Plain and simple. The prices are high and the quality of service is low. Right now with the new Mexican economic austerity plan, in Lord Black and Placers, you have to pay $66 for a booth for about 15 minutes. No room, no bed, no fun. Plus, whatever regular fees for the chicas. Man, this place has really gone to shit in the past five years.

Yet still, I went back, for the last time, in late March. I figure I would give Nogie one last chance so I chose what should be prime conditions: a Saturday night in the early spring. After the usual 45 minute drive down from Tucson, I parked at the McDonalds, paid my four bucks to the parking attendant in the parking lot (or, more likely, gave four bucks to some dude who just jumped the fence) and walked on over. The time was around 8:30 in the PM - prime time if there ever was one.

The time was most definitely not prime. I walked over to Tecolote and there was absolutely no one there. The street outside Obsessions was empty as well, so I walked on over to Lipstick. Panocha total - zero. Dollars spent so far - $4.00

The joint was devoid of customers as well - just some Mexidudes and some fairly skanky putas and strippers. I paid my $3 cover charge, drank my cover charge beer and bolted after 15 minutes. One girl was trying her damnedest to get me to invest in some booth time but somehow, flashing me her incredibly hairy bush was a bit of a turnoff. Panocha total - still zero. Dollars spent so far - $7.00

After bailing on Lipstick, I decided to walk around the block to Lord Black. The 3-song minimum for private booth space is really working wonders for the chicas - they all asked me how business in Nuevo Laredo and Tijuana is. Again, paid my $3 cover charge, drank my single cover charge beer, got a couple of semi-lap dances. No fichas, no booths, just a couple of $5 tips for two chicas. The first was some big-tittied bleach blonde who said she was from Puerto Vallarta who got pissed when I wouldn't pay for a TLN back at her hotel, and a pretty cute girl, can't remember her name but had fair skin and a lot of freckles, both on her face and her tits. Now freckled tits are a turn on for me, but again, I have a ban on paying $66 for 15 minutes of booth time, so after sitting on my lap and rubbing my dick for a few minutes, I tipped her $5 and split. Panocha total - a big fucking zero. Dollars spent so far - $20.00

Finally, I cruised over to Ferni's. I've been told that this is the place for some young cooze, and to be honest, I actually kind of liked the place. It was around 10:30 P.M now, and some older Americanos started to filter in. I guess Ben has been telling all the other geezers on the Retirement Home Network that viejos can get some nice young poontang down Mexico way, as long as they cash in the Social Security checks on the way. Good job, Ben.

Anyways, I drank a beer and just settled in for a few minutes. The girls, who outnumbered guys by at least a 2x1 ratio, were pretty passive and just seemed to be hanging out. Speaking of hanging out, at this point my dick was starting to get impatient with me and I figured it was time to either get to mongering or get the hell back to Tucson. Just then, one of the meseras came up to me and asked if I wanted a booth. I said how much for chupa, seeing as there is no way I can get hard, fuck, clean up and zip up while sitting in a chair in a 4x6 booth in 6 minutes. However, 6 minutes is just enough time to get a hummer. She quotes $25 for a blow, plus $21 or whatever the per-song booth rental is. All told, $46 for a pretty decent hummer con condom. After that, I walked back across the border, for the last time in Nogie in this lifetime, and cruised back to the hotel. Panocha total - none really, but boca total was one. Dollars spent for entire evening in Mexico - $72, for four beers, parking, a blowjob and a couple of lap dances.

Next time just tell her that you will buy 2 tickets,nothing more for sex or BJ. Many times I have had sex and BJ there for three tickets.

Nothing personal dude, since I don't even know you - but I think the moral of this story is that when you go into something with a crappy ass attitude, you should expect a crappy outcome.

Catocony - Here we go again! When even someone tells it exactly like it is about Nogales, the fans of Nogo will start saying that Nogo is the greatest place on earth. The center of fucking universe! Don't mind them, they don't get out much. You report it exactly the way things are down there. I go there about once a week. Not really for girls but more to hang out and talk to the managers and employees of these clubs. Once in a while I find a nice looking girl and have some fun but that is not often. And the things that the clubs keep doing to the business is stupid beyond reason. In Nogales you pay more for less than most border towns. And certainly a lot more than most South American countries! Nogo is just OK sometimes

I'm glad I live in Texas and don't have to debate this issue. Tell the girls they'll get $40 to $60 from us guys down in Nuevo Laredo for full sex and send 'em on down. Things will dry up in Nogo and maybe the price will get better for you. I'll think about the six minute hummer next weekend while I'm getting my monthly quota down in NL.

P.S. I appreciate the guys that tell it like it is, thanks!

There are still plenty of good "deals" in Nogie. Last time I was down there, I got about 25 minutes in the booth at Rio's for $20 and Morelia came down from her asking price to $35 FS. Thing are slow, so opportunities to take advantage of the slowdown are there.
Take my advice "Haggle" and don't act like a 'merican. I used to say gringo, but mexicans will take advantage of US hispanics just as well as US gringos. Don't be sucked into their game. Papa_C has the right attitude.

I have cut out Placers from my rotation because of that stupid, stupid 3 dance rule. It was put in place just to fleece the gringo's by the new (now on-his-way-out manager) manager. Lord Black has already cut it out for the weekdays according to one chica I talked too, and she told me that several of the girls at Placers are leaving, and the word is out that the money is not as good as it was. Give it some time and thing will revert back.

Although Nogie is no comparison to TJ (where else is??). It still pretty good. IMHO. Your best deal: Go to Rio's when the afternoon shift ends, about 10:00 pm. pick your girl and negotiate for an hour at the miami. I have done this for as low as $55 and never more than $70. with some standouts!!!. Another great deal are the $10 privados on Tuesday. $10 for about 2-3 songs of real nasty lapdancing and playing around will get you and the girl in the mood, but it is your perogative to move the proceeding to a hotel/or do it there! If they are leaving work in a matter of minutes, do your negotiating!! DO NOT involve the maseros or club, they always want a cut. I have used Manuel to help with translating, and slipped him a 5/10 as a tip, he pretty good about being discreet.

But I shouldn't have to be telling the more experienced mongers this!! Haggle Dammit and quit whining like the proverbial Ugly American!

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on second thought, disregard everything I said. DO NOT GO TO NOGALES, STAY HOME!!!
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(this maybe will clear out those who don't have a clue!)

OG

Nogales is certainly more expensive and more of a pain in the ass than probably any MX border town. But if you're stuck in Arizona, it's a damn long drive to TJ or NL, etc.

OG gives good advice - you can get good deals and have a great time if you know what you're doing. On that note, you can also get Cherry's chicas to your hotel for a decent price when they close, about 8-9 PM. Been there, done that, many times.

PhoenixGuy,

The crappy-ass attitude comes from walking across the border on a Saturday night and finding very little of interest. I'm not going on a job interview, I'm going to monger and if the mongering is not good, that's what I'll report.

I've been pretty upfront with saying in the past that the girls in LB are, on average, the best looking ones of any of the border towns I've been in (Matamoros, Reynosa, Nuevo Laredo, Acuna, Agua Prieta, Nogie, Juarez and TJ) but Nogie is disappointing from a mongering standpoint. I write my reports and post replies for the benefit of everyone on the board. Sure, if I lived in Tucson or Phoenix I would probably hit Nogie just because - it's convenient and better than wasting cash in strip clubs in AZ. But, it is what it is.
Why defend Nogie? AZ guys will continue to go regardless of what anyone else says, but if I can give advice to some out-of-towner and maybe save them from a disappointing evening, then it's served its purpose. I come to the area on business but remember, a good portion of the board hobbies on vacation, i.e. their own dime when it comes to flights, rental cars, hotels, meals, etc. Anyone planning on vacationing in the area just to monger in Nogie is making a very wrong move, and that is the purpose of my post.

Funny everyone seems to think I'm defending something in my post. For the life of me I can't find the name of any destination in what I wrote. All I was saying is that when you go out expecting to have a bad time, the world is going to oblige you. I've gone out in that mood, and surprise, surprise, I had a crappy time. But if I look back, I'm sure there were plenty of other people out and about having a blast. So on those occasions was the problem me, or the world? Think about it...

>>>Anyone planning on vacationing in the area just to monger in Nogie is making a very wrong move, and that is the purpose of my post.

Gotta agree there. Outside of a few strip clubs, there's not much to recommend Nogales. Doubtless there are much better destinations for mongering + vacationing.

There are two types of mongers that visit Nogales. The regular and the occassional. As a regular I don't get privados at LB or Placers. They have the same management. I stick to Rio, Cherry's, Fernis, and Lipstick. Avoid Titanic as well. If you want cheap sex in a bed go to La Conga. The key to Nogales is knowing the girls. You will pay very little then. I know who will go home with me for free by simply taking them out after work to Tecolote for beers. I don't disagree with Catocony because that is the way it is for an occassional monger. Pussy is not a cheap commodity like on the streets of TJ.

I hit LB,Pl, and lipstick at least 5 times a week as a min. I only live ten min away and I have an apartment in Nogales Mexico. Yes it is rather expensive for Mexico, but much less than the states. If you are not a regular it is harder. I will start posting every few days so the now and then mongers can cash in on the deals. I would love to have the same tips on Agua Prieta. Tonight was dry and slow, mondays are slow. I had a date with a Lipstick girl but I was 2 hours late? Slow nights are good for those high priced sluts, they will all learn to lower the price in time.

One of these years I'll actually get my AP trip report done.


Papi C ?!?!

i think papi c was banned from the board for being either too high, drunk, or just plan idiotic, lol..

Catocony - Is there anything worth reporting about AP? I visit the places there twice and things were a little scary to say the least.

Kojak,

The only scary things there are the trannies who hang out at Casa Blanca.

AP will not be to everyone's taste as the girls aren't that great looking but the price is right and the service is great, at least for me on both trips down.

Yeah AP is a little rough. I was there last year. Border patrol greenlegs everywhere in Douglas chasing illegals. The Zona is in a very poor area compared to Nogie. I would never walk it but I guess some do. Went to El Pareiso and Flamingos. Nothing of interest...skanky hags until a young 21 year old walked in to El Pareiso. She looked halfway decent and wanted 30 for FS and BJ. She was just okay in the sack...very inexperienced. The room was absolutely filthy. The price is right in AP but I probably would not go back.

Also, I did go to Nogie this week on Tuesday. It is close to Phoenix so I keep going. Had some nice Guyamas shrimp at El Greco (good a/c but a little pricey) Could have had a hotel date with Karla (nice body, big breasts) at Cherries for $100. So I waited around till 7 and then she got real busy with a lot of sketchy looking locals. I lost the urge for her at that point, just too soon after them. Maybe next time. Incidentally, Karla told me she will be at Guau Guau this weekend in RP. Apparently, she makes good money on Memorial weekend there on hotel dates (charges more than in Nogie.)

I am boycotting LB and Placers and went to Rio. Immediately, Monserrat attaches to me. I was sucked in after a nice neck massage so I did the FS and BJ in the steamy closet for $60. It was really slow in Rio and we never got the flashing lights/knock on the door signal. Sweating like a pig when I got out of there. I forgot how much I hate the closets...oh well.


Dave

I was down in Nogalas for the 1st time this year (actually twice in last month). All in all it wasn't to bad...to recap ( most posted where appropriate) got a CBJ in Cherries for $20 plus 1 private (we probably went 15 min) and got CBJ/FS at LB for $45 (3 for 2 + tip) and $35 for the girl (both were nice looking...not great).

2nd trip hit Obsessions and did 30 min for 140 (6o room, 80 girl) with Christina, up ther with anything I've seen in Rio or BA...key is to just monger up and go with the flow. I could easily have gotten by for less at Obsessions but gal was worth it.

Certainly would prefer TJ...or anywhere in SA...but Nogie for some nuckie is just fine

I am new to this board, have been posting on a
Amsterdam site for the last couple of years and
thought I would look into the local scene, ie.. Mexico.
I just took my first trip to Nogales last weekend, sunday night to be specific. What a drive, huge electrical storm on the way down, get
to Nogales and the power is out on the U.S side so my Amsterdam buddy and I change in the parking lot of Hotel and head to McDonalds to park. Take the short walk to the border and head over to Lipsticks, not to buisy for a sunday but I do not like crowds and surely do not want to fight over the best looking girl. I was ready to go hit the other clubs when I noticed a lovely young latina
entering the stage, she had a body that was built for speed. I opted for a couple of private lap dances upstairs, then conceeded to her gyrations and spent the next 1/2 hour in a booth. I had one of the best BJ's ever, man she did'nt stop sucking
me even after I exploded in her mouth (covered).

It was a great choice, even early in the night, but when you see a real looker, do not hesitate and try to find a better one, in this case, I was right on since the selection at the other clubs was minimal on a Sunday, ended up drinking way to much and stumbled across the border around 2:00
A.M to check into the hotel. The next morning my friend realized that he lost his car keys (computerized ignition) and we had to be towed to
Tucson to the Nissan Dealership, waited 4 hours for them to get a blank, hard to believe, but shit
happens. Finally made it back to Phoenix around 4:00 P.M. All in all, I had a good time, will be
going back soon, looking for some information from
this board as to which nights are good, but not too crowded .

James

hi anyone know where the action is in rocky point and where i can get women to take out like pizza back to a hotel?