Lest we forget....

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By Sandman on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 05:14 am:  Edit

It is always an interesting perspective to look back on ones time spent in Rio or any other mongering destination. We all manage to get laid, probably have several sessions with one or many girls, manage to convince ourselves they thought we were something special in their lives and all dream of the time when we can return.

We all relish in our first Dupla or Tripla; our first Vips Festhina, our multiple terma runs in a single day capped off with a Help cutie at night; the stunner we discovered or our friends amiga that just happens to knock your socks off.

This phenomena can occur in any venue be it Cartagena, Angeles City, Pattaya or...gulp...even TJ!

Even the most seasoned monger can fall into the trap and get in over their heads with a particular girl only to finally come to the stark realization that we are as much a passing in the night to them as they are to us.

I set out on a qwest for this trip to meet a non-pro, regular girl that was not on the programma. I was easily sidetracked by the minions of beautiful girls willing to drop their panties for the price of two or more hours of bliss between the sheets. After being blown off by the beach babe, my fallback, semi-pro part time programma girl filled a small void that was missing between terma runs and Vips festas.....(damn they were fun)

It was as she said, "I can make as much in 4 weeks here as I can in 8 months in SP. I only need two sessions per day. I don't like what I am doing but my family needs the money"

There is little doubt in my mind that she wasn't out doing some other guy within hours of my departure from Rio. Hell, the hungry hounds that remained had been eyeballing her all week and couldn't wait for me to leave...he he.

As I sit here sifting through some of the 450+ photos I took of her, the cute outfits she wore, the tiny wisps of hair blowing off her face from the wind, the way she curled her smile or peered over her sunglasses for a pose, I am filled with the memories of another incredible experience in Rio.

Each time it is different yet somehow the same. Arrive with anticipation of mongering your fool head off and depart wishing you could stay longer and already planning your return. Meeting a lot of great guys (and a few assholes) along the way, reminiscing of the previous days exploits with the guys at the office (Alcazar) and making plans for the new days exploits. Peering through the bevy of beauties at the snake pit or wading through the troughs of bundas at Help, it is all about the same thing. Paying for play and finding that trophy to mount on your wall of memories.

A few guys have pushed through the envelope and found one to settle down with (whether that was their original intention or not) and some are lucky enough to have found one that still lets them out to play occasionally (you know who you are you lucky bastard).

Some guys get caught up in the illusion that they are somehow different with these girls and can establish something meaningful, without commitment and on a monetary basis, try to maintain a lasting relationship. They also get crushed when they find their "girl" is out doing other guys while they are away (you know who you are buddy).

Never lose perspective. This is all about sex, money and having fun. It is as much a way of life to the people in our mongering destinations as the drive through at McDonalds is to us.

Reflecting back on a conversation with a certain Terma girl who happened to speak perfect English, "I am 21 years old and have fucked more in my life already than most people do in their entire lives" She was also rather frank and blunt about how successful she was in extracting money from guys who had returned to the states or how much she had gotten some guy to spend on her at the mall.

So who has the rose colored glasses? The guy who thinks he has made a conquest only to find another flag has already been planted or the 21 year old girl who thinks she can compete with the new 18-20 year olds entering the profession?

Perhaps the reality is that mongering is a lot like golf.

"It is not a game that you can ever win but one that you keep playing anyway".


Hope to see all of you in Rio or other destinations someday.....


Sandman

By Moondog on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 06:00 am:  Edit

Nice reflections, it is a great ride. :-)

Moondog

By SF_Hombre on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 07:30 am:  Edit

Excellent post, SM. I think every monger who thinks his relationship with a working girl is "special" should spend time talking to Stella, as you did. She can lay it out in more ways than one.

I suspect that on slow days in the Termas, these girls compare techniques for extraction of $ from gringos and laugh like crazy when exchanging stories, just as we do when we're sitting at Terracao Atlantico on a warm Rio night swapping tales and passing the digital cameras around.

By Solid808 on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 08:09 am:  Edit

SM, you've put things in fine perspective. Life is Good. It's great that so many of us have found this paradise. Some hombres earlier in life, some later. The most important thing as that we made it to Brasil and will be returning as much as possible. I am more than happy to endear the journey from Hawaii with so much to look forward to with the many beautiful garotas. It also helps hanging out and sharing stories with other cool hombres.



(Message edited by solid808 on May 30, 2003)

By Sandman on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 08:11 am:  Edit

SF-well said. And, we do know they exchange stories. Poor DG. Ex wifey knew every move he was making.....

My 4X4 favorita knew everything I was doing and Luomo favorita asked me about my enamorada. Nothing is sacred in Rio...especially...hobbying!

Sandman

By Dongringo on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 08:40 am:  Edit

I've spoken at length with Stella, and have these observations about her:

1. She is pretty damn funny
2. She knows what's going on at 4x4
3. She will produce a VERY good lesbian session if you let her set it up for you.
4. If you click with her, she will share some great insights on the garota scene.

By Dongringo on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 08:55 am:  Edit

Sandman your above post should become a staple in the industry. You could clean it up and include only a few more of your sage points and have a

"Men's Map Through the Minefield of La Mujers"

In addition to being one helluva great guy to hang out with, I have learned a lot from ya brother. Keep it up, and thanks.

By Hector on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 09:35 am:  Edit

1- I think it's high-time to begin writing a book, or at least a series of columns. DG & SM, come back here now so we can get started on an outline.

2- I am headed straight to 4x4 this afternoon to ask Stella for advice about my girlfriend!

3- Anybody seen my new passport around?

By SF_Hombre on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 12:13 pm:  Edit

Why Hector...are you worried that you lost it already?

By Sandman on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 01:01 pm:  Edit

I am coming back down at the end of June. Keep the pencils sharpened and glue that damn passport to your pocket.

By Flmonger on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 02:31 pm:  Edit

hector - already hitting 4x4 you first full day back? gonna blow all that money you 'made' while in b.a.?

hey sandman, it was a pleasure bumping into you a few times on the recent trip - and kudos on the great posts.

(Message edited by flmonger on May 30, 2003)

By Godfather on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 02:49 pm:  Edit

Sandman. You're a wise man. Great post. I don't think that anyone intends to fall for a girl they met down in South America. I NEVER thought I could and I did. I'm always warning guys about these kind of relationships. They aren't easy. You just have to be realistic going in to it and really focus on what you want out of the relationship.

I still don't know how mine will turn out but I'm a happy camper and will stay in the holding pattern until I'm not a happy camper anymore. I think anyone that has any sort of real relationship with a girl they meet down there and sees their life will have a different perspective on things. And no I don't mean just having sex with them over at their place. I mean, spending actual time seeing their life, living with them, meeting their family, and just being with them more for just being with them rather than just for the sex.

I will probably get hazed for writing this but those of you that know me know I don't care. Sandman, I think you told UWPhoto that I've seen my best hobbying days. You might be right amigo. It's hard to look at things the same way. I'm sure I'll continue to have fun on various exploits but I guess I look at things alot more different than I used to.

No matter what we all are damn lucky to have the opportunity to go down to a place like Rio and do what we do. God bless Brazil.

Life is good.

By Slicey on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 04:43 pm:  Edit

GF--no, i don't think flaming is called for. i pretty much agree with you for whatever it is worth.

Sandman--just lucky for your buddy who was "crushed" that he hadn't already sold everything to move to rio to be with his girl (i hope)...nice report btw.

s.

By Tight_fit on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 06:54 pm:  Edit

"Perhaps the reality is that mongering is a lot like golf.

"It is not a game that you can ever win but one that you keep playing anyway.""

The day you quit is the day you lose.

By Jarocho on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 06:03 am:  Edit

Hey SandGoodies, you have an apetite for very nice cubachicas...I'm going to the Bahamas pretty soon, so the unexpected trip will become a short flight from Nassau to Havana :-) My trip buddies just don't know that yet...shhh! Oh gotta go practice my Salsa! BTW, great fucking report

Jarocho

By Fooledagain1 on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:03 am:  Edit

Wonderfully said !!! Thanks for the trip report, really enjoyed it.

By Sweetmesquite on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:55 am:  Edit

sandman do you remember my special garota you met over our steak at the terrace.? on my last sat ,i called her to say i was tired and she said that was ok as she had to study and we could lunch on sun. at accazar sun am i am sitting with seaman looking at her pictures he took of her at his apt while she was "studying" sat night.taking this badly i cancelled my flight and went straight yo luomo for therapy.

By Sandman on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 11:16 am:  Edit

Good prescription

By Sman on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 12:14 pm:  Edit

Sandman

Godfather is right, you are a wise man. One or two of those paragraphs really hit home as you well know.

So, how old was that scotch anyway??

By Seaman on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 02:48 pm:  Edit

Layne said it best one night, "You can tell that girl really isn't into me. I prefer girls that are better at faking it."

Seeing you with Thaiza time after time made me think we were losing you, particularly suprising knowing that you're far from an amateur. Glad to see you still have your head, particularly seeing Thaiza (and her nice little sister!) working the Terrace every night after you left.

This is EXACTLY like golf. The prospect (and the occasional accomplishment) of a hole when with terrific pars and bogeys in between keeps us coming back! Thank god I'm longer off the tee and better around the bushes in Rio than on the golf course.

By Bomboa on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 08:53 am:  Edit

My opinion is that mongering is like a drug...too much of it, and it can distort your reality and actually *prevent* you from having relationships with the millions of non-program Brazilian girls out there who are sweet, funny, sexy as hell, and most importantly, single.

For example, on any given night in Sao Paulo, I had a choice between going out with friends, meeting new people, and seducing smart, educated, Brazilian girls the old fashioned way...

or hitting a boate and nailing an 18 year old stunner who'd be screaming and moaning all night while I had my way with her...

Tough decisions ;-)...and it becomes so tempting to take the "easy" way out...but honestly, the most fulfilling experiences I've had in Brazil were the relationships I've had with normal, middle class Brazilian girls who would rather *die* than hook.

So while I love the program scene and the fact that it provides guys like us with a rock/rap star life style (at least temporarily), to me, it would be *CRAZY* to make that the ONLY avenue of female companionship.

By Moondog on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 12:18 pm:  Edit

Bomboa,

Very true words. I've had a great time with the Brazilian girls who are not on the program, and it is a really fun time.

It's funny because they always warn me to stay away from Help and the area down there because of all the "hooks" that are around. :-)

Moondog

By Sf4dfish on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 04:27 pm:  Edit

Bomboa, who doesn't love scoring with a non-pro!

But, its alway's nice to have a fall back plan. So, when the clock strikes 1 or 2 AM, one can head to where programa girls can be found.

I have also scored free repeats with semi-pro's. Of course, taking them out on the town, or bringing them some presents (usually clothes) helps! sf4dfish

By Bomboa on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 06:40 pm:  Edit

1 or 2AM?

Hell, that's when things get started in Sao Paulo!

Besides, when sex is on demand like pay per view, you don't mind staggering home drunk by yourself with a bunch of phone numbers in your pocket.

Having stuck my tongue down 4 girls throats in one night is a nice consolation prize. To be honest, that's about as far as I ever get with a non-pro in Sao Paulo on the first meeting...but they warm up later if you wine and dine them.

By Kitesurfer on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 03:12 pm:  Edit

Bomboa, ever go to Lov.e club? (not love story) It's a ridiculous lounge/nightclub with some great DJs (Marky)... Your comment reminds me of some kick ass nights partying with regular girls and a little beija na boca. Hope to be back down soon...


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