By Costaricardo on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 12:08 am: Edit |
STORIES OF HONOR AND DISHONOR
I was going to title this report "The devil goes down on Costaricardo" because of a one night experience that I had on this past trip. If this was only a pictoral essay, that would be the title and it certainly is the fun part of this story. Several instances of honor/dishonor between the girls and the guys that associated and fall in love with them keep sticking in my mind and I feel like this information might be more important at this point then where to go, what to do, how much it costs, etc-which by now if you have read past trip reports you should be well aware of. I broke no new ground on this trip and pretty much stuck to familiar venues, Bar Idem and the Blue Marlin.
I had a great time on this trip as I have had on every trip that I have taken. Roberto at Bar Idem has a fine stable of beautiful and willing to please girls and the mention of Don Gordo or Costaricardo will bring an extra big smile to his already "happy to be of service" attitude that he already has. The Blue Marlin is very much alive with girls from all over Central and South America and also a few from Eastern Europe. Many, many Columbians-which by the way are not only in San Jose in force at the Blue Marlin, but are also invading as store clerks, secretaries, receptionists, etc in San Jose, the usual contingent of girls from the Dominican Republic-although this trip they seemed a lot less aggressive than I remember from past trips, a few girls from Nicaragua, Panama, Honduras and even though I had heard in the past that there were some Cubanas working I had not met any until this trip and I am very glad that I did. There is also a small contingent of girls from Romania-I talked to three of them that hang out together for awhile and when I say hang out together I mean I did not hardly see one of them without the other two closely behind. My take on them was that they were very strange girls-not rude, but not polite either, not really pretty or sexy, but definitely unattractive either, not really stuck up, but definitely had an attitude that they would be doing you a favor if they went with you-really hard to pinpoint exactly. Talked to some other guys that had talked to them or had watched them and they had pretty much the same opinion. With the exception of one, "THE DEBIL".
Before I get to the story of the "Debil", a few antedotes concerning honor/dishonor among these wonderful girls.
First little story.
When I was in San Jose during Xmas week, a girl that I had previously been with, gotten to know fairly well and have become friends with asked me to lend her $100 so she could pay her rent as she had spent too much money on her kids for Xmas and was broke-sounded real familiar to me, not the request, but the situation-have been there before. Anyway I gave her the money, knowing that I would probably never see it again, no big deal. She promised she would pay me back as soon as she saw me when I returned in February. The day I arrived, I checked in my hotel, went to the Morazan to meet some guys that were going to go to Bar Idem with me and we were walking to the Blue Marlin to take a quick look before heading over to Idem. We get to the corner and I hear someone calling out my name from across the street. It is this girl. She can't wait to get across the busy street to get to me. I'm thinking that sure she is a friend, but I only went with her once a few months ago and have been around her many times since then, but never with this kind of excited reception. She runs up to me and very excitedly tells me she has my money and proceeds to give me the $100 dollars. I took the money, gave half of it back to her-no strings attached and thanked her for being so trustworthy. It is the nature of my business that I lend customers small amounts of money, guys that make $100,000 a year and up and I can't begin to tell you how hard it is to get some of these motherfuckers to pay me back even amounts as little as $100 or $200 and here is this poor, little skinny single mom hooker in San Jose, Costa Rica chasing me down to pay me. Having since thought very much about what happened, I am very disappointed in myself for not giving her all of it back. Hopefully I can do something for her on a future trip. By the way, I read some of the reports guys have written on various boards and am almost positive that from one of the posts I read, that this girl was coming from a session with one of the members of one of the sites I belong. Description, timing, everything fit perfectly. Thanks. LOL.
Second little story.
An acquaintance of mine from a previous trip has fallen head over heels over a girl that is a friend of mine and that I stay in touch with via email-helps me contact other friends, speaks very good English, very well-liked by the girls, casinos, bar managers, etc. A real joy with a great attitude. I can see why he is so enamored of her. He met her several months ago, calls her, emails her, sends her money, the whole nine yards. He was in San Jose at the same time as me and was spending all his time with her. I happen to see her at the Blue Marlin very late one night and she comes up to me and asks me not to tell him that I saw her there as she was meeting someone else and also that she had told him that the next day she had to take her children to the doctors-which she told him in San Jose was an all day ordeal and that she would be tired that night and would see him the next day. Then she told me what was really happening was that her real boyfriend was coming in the next morning and that she would be seeing him all the next day and night, before she would be able to break away and see my acquaintance again. Guys, I don't care how you may think that these girls think about you, but those of you who think that they are in love with you, etc. etc. you might think again.
Third little story.
I took a very good friend of mine to San Jose with me last August. He is not only my friend, but works for me. The first place we stopped was Bar Idem. While the rest of the group was availing themselves of the great talent Roberto had assembled, he is making eyes at the bartender. Next thing you know he has a date with her for after she gets off work. He is in heaven, in the land of mucho putas and with his friends all paying, he is getting some for free, albeit he gave her $100 when she was leaving the next morning. One thing leads to another, he has "known" this girl for a total of four days-the length of our stay and he is back home announcing he is getting married. This is a 48 year old, divorced, fairly streetwise man, with a daughter that is 23 years old. His fiance told him she was 28-I thought she looked like she was 48, then told him she was 32, then finds out through the fiance visa application process that she is 38. She has two teenage kids, family to support, etc. He is going nuts, calling her everyday-phone bill in excess of $500 a month, made three more trips to San Jose to see her between August and February, sending her money each week-only fight they got in was when money failed to arrive at Western Union for some reason-she thought he didn't send it. He speaks no Spanish, she no English-they get someone to write down what they want to say to each other, kind of like a script and read it off each night. I try and try to wise him up, but he is intent on making a major fool of himself and is doing a hell of a job. He and his fiance are my contacts to Roberto when I want to find out what is going on. He is going with me on this trip. I tell him to make sure that Roberto knows that we are going to invade his place Wednesday afternoon and to have the girls there early to take care of us. Day before we are leaving he tells me he can't do that as his girl no longer works there. Big surprise to me! I ask why and he just mumbles and changes the subject. No problem I will just call Roberto myself and set everything up. We get to town, he takes off to see the love of his life and we all head to Bar Idem. I ask Roberto why she doesn't work there anymore. He tells me she called him the end of December and told him she was quitting. He asked why and she said that she doesn't need to work anymore, she has her fiance to take care of her now. Fortunately for my friend, between his Xmas trip and the end of February, the major hassle of communicating, money starting to be a problem, immigration attorneys and the US government throwing gauntlet after gauntlet in his way, he starts to reconsider and is going on this trip with the express purpose of slowing down the relationship, perhaps cutting it off, etc. He spends the week with her, sometimes good times, sometimes bad times. The last night they are going out for a farewell dinner. She calls a taxi driver that is a friend of hers and that the two of them have used many times in the past. They take off for dinner, go about a mile from her house and are forced to the side of the rode by another car with several men in it. One of them jumps out and is pretty much immediately in his face with a pistol pointed directly at his head. Another is quickly going through his pockets, checking his fingers for rings, his arms for a watch and then immediately to his socks where he keeps his real money. Around $100 comes out of his pockets, no rings, no watch, but $1600 from his sock. Driver is frozen with hands on steering wheel, they don't touch him, girl is petrified but they don't touch her or take her purse or jewelry. Now this dumb ass returns home to tell me this story which I am horrified at, but he is thinking that maybe he was set up. My reply: really!!!! Yes, he says, he thinks the taxi driver set him up. Still too lovestruck or embarrassed to even consider that his beloved might have seen her cash cow walking out the door forever. Guys, please please enjoy the hell out of yourselves, but be very, very realistic with what kind of situation you are dealing with. I hear many, many stories like this-although not first hand like this one, and cannot remember hearing any stories of Gringo meets hooker, fall in love, live happily ever after. Don't fall in love with these girls.
Fourth little story.
Not that I have much of a life here in the states, outside of work and taking care of my two teenage sons, hence, the frequent visits to Costa Rica. I received one Valentine this year- that's up from last year. It was an electronic Valentine from a hooker in San Jose. Made my whole day, week, month. LOL.
HONOR/DISHONOR EPILOGUE
The girl in story one and two are the same and she can be seen on certain travel sites going down on another girl. My friend that was robbed was certainly shaken up, and hopefully awakened to what he was doing. They left it at we will see each other if convenient. The same day he returned he was asking me to take off work early because this girl that had been hitting on him at a pool league he is in was calling him and "begging him" to come see her. He had been turning her down because he was being loyal to his "San Jose fiancee". Told him to get his ass out of there and to not tell his "pool league sweetheart" that he was recently unengaged-some girls only want you if they can't have you kind of advice. Hope he enjoyed his time off.
By Treeshark on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 03:09 am: Edit |
Third little story
My last trip to Costa Rica (second time there),, I spent a night with an ex-bartender.. she told me about the guys being set up by the "mafia chicas"... as you said, it happens a lot.. and they will kill you... there are a lot of variations of how a person is set-up but it is that "sweet" chica that puts your life at risk..
""Don't fall in love with these girls."" is great advice.. Although do not trust them might be good too..
Second little story
LOL.. I will have to read this one again ten times or so before my next vacation.. I try to remember that this story is the reality of the whole situation.. I figure that this is how all my "wives" act.. Fall in love and enjoy the time with your "true love".. Just figure that she is in bed with another guy before your plane leaves the ground is all.. You will not have as many emotional problems that way..
Always enjoy reading your reports.. makes me want to go back to Costa Rica..
By Costaricardo on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:12 am: Edit |
Treeshark,
And reading your reports makes me want to go
to Cartagena. Have been following your adventures
since your first post. Costa Rica has been real
easy for me to get to frequently and has been
very, very good to me, but have some breaks between the action there coming up and Cartagena
is very high on my list of places I want to visit.
By Hombrecito1 on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 08:46 pm: Edit |
Costaricardo,
What an incredible post-sorry I just got around to reading it.
Everyone on this board who has been or is going to C.R. should read this post and take everything in it to heart because it is exactly the way things are. I’m a native Spanish speaker and I’ve translated a lot of emails to and from mongers for the girls in the Del Rey and at other internet café’s. Unfortunately, there are a lot of guys just like Costaricardo’s acquaintance who are clueless and have no idea they are being played.
Have you ever wondered what the girls at the Marlin talk about? Here’s some examples of what I’ve heard discussed …
1) How stupid Gringos are.
2) Which Gringos are known to overpay, buy gifts, etc.
3) What they want to buy themselves, their boyfriends, or husbands with your money.
You can assume that most chicas in the Del Rey and other establishments have at least a boyfriend at home, and a lot of them are married. I’ve had several tell me they can’t believe how nice the Gringos are, but they also can’t believe how indecisive and gullible they are either. Many of these girls grew up in a abusive home and a lot of them are in abusive relationships now. In C.R., you being a “nice guy” is a sign of weakness to them, not affection and they don’t respect men who can’t say no.
I learned early on to always just expect a scam with whatever girl you are with. It may be small like clothes for her children, or may be bigger like money for school or an apartment. If you spend any amount of time with a chica, the scam will eventually come, so just be ready for it. Any money the girl asks for other than for sex is probably a scam and the odds are overwhelming that their reason for asking is a lie. What I usually do is act very offended when they ask for money, clothes, etc…I’ll say something like “How dare you mistreat me like this” and get right in their face and tell them to leave if they don’t want to be with me. You need to be as animated as you can and tell them you won’t be treated like that. I’ve had a few girls leave, but usually they will pout a little bit, then apologize for ever asking. Obviously, this is a lot harder if you don’t speak Spanish.
I love C.R. as much as anybody, but you need to understand the nature of the women in the Blue Marlin and other establishments and not get too involved.
ABRE LOS OJOS,
Hombecito1