The next morning, I have to make an ATM run across the street for Reals, but it isn't working, so I have to walk down to Blockbuster, while my over night guest (I can't remember her fake name) is still in my apartment asleep. She is trustworthy, and plus… I locked her inside. When I get back, she is dressed and has made my bed, folded my clothes and is in the process of watering all of the plants in the apartment. (I got fucked and maid service all-in-one) I pay her and she writes down her email address and departs. I would see her again outside of Help several times over my time there, but I wasn't interested in a repeat session. She was a very nice "non-pro-type" girl though.

I begin to make my way to Alcazar, but stopped for lunch and then sent a few emails and checked what was happening in the world. What the fuck has Kobe Bryant done? If he wants some pussy on the side, he needs to come to Rio.

I get to Alcazar about 12:00 and some hombres are having lunch. I tell Skull Jockey about the VIPs and he shakes his head in amusement. Sandman is waiting for his 12:00 date. She hasn't shown by 12:15, which is fine with him because he wants to go see BT’s apartment anyway. He tells me that I can have her if she shows. His date happens to be "the first", so I am more than happy to take her off his hands. She never shows though.

Around 1:30, Taiza of 4X4 fame arrives once again and sits at our table. It seems she has a 2:00 session planned with DavidD from the other night. With Don translating, I tell her that I want to see her again tonight, but I'm not interested in any 2-hour stuff. We make plans to get together after her afternoon session and hang out. I'm not sure if she is planning on staying with me from late afternoon until the late evening, but I expect her to be with me all night. Two o'clock comes and goes and Davidd never shows.

Around 3:00, Taiza and I get in a taxi and head to my apartment because I need my credit card. Believe it or not, I was not expecting to have sex with this girl at this point in time. I was actually planning on going shopping or just have her show me around some places. This is what happens when you can't fully communicate with these women.

Once we are in the apartment, she wants me to show her some more pictures. After doing that and eating some chocolate, I go to the bathroom and when I come out, she has undressed. I can see where this is headed, but I wanted to save it for later. This girl was fun to hang out with and that is what I wanted to do this afternoon.



Photos: Taiza

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Afterwards, I give her a couple of gifts and more candy and things seem to be ok. At this point I am thinking that she is going to be with me for a while.

However, things began to unravel. It seems that she had other ideas after her 2:00 fell apart. She begans to tell me that she has to take a member of her family shopping at 7:00. It doesn't appear that she has any plans on meeting me anywhere afterwards either.

At this point, no Reals had been discussed, so since she is changing the deal, I offer her half of what I gave her the other night. She wants the same amount though. Now I am getting a little irritated. I have no problem giving these girls money, but don't give me the shaft and ask for top money. Not wanting to argue, I relent and give her exactly what I gave her the first time. She can see that I am little annoyed with her, so she begins to explain. I understand absolutely no Portuguese, but I know what she is saying. Basically, she says since she isn't working at 4X4 anymore, she has to have money for her and her family. However, it wasn't about the money. I was annoyed because she had changed the deal. I tell her it is ok, but she can clearly see that I am not happy. As we are waiting for the elevator, she tries to get me to talk to her and hugs me, but I'm not into it. This is all business now.

When we get to the street, I get her a cab, open the door, and give her a half hug. She goes one way in the cab and I head the other on foot.

Five minutes later I get a call from Don. It seems Taiza called him and tells him that I am mad at her. I explain that I wasn't mad at her, just disappointed that she lied to me. Don asks, "wasn't she supposed to stay all night?" "Yeah, but it's over and no big deal", I reply. I made no further plans to see her the rest of the trip.

It's getting dark, so I decide to make a Luomo run. Once there, I am locked into "the first" again. I hadn't seen her since my first day, so off I go. We talk afterwards and I ask her why she didn't show up today at Alcazar at noon. She said that she had been sick from eating something the night before. I inform her that Sandman was not happy with her and left, and that if she had showed up, I was going to spend some time with her. She smiles and asks me if I want her to come to my apartment on Sunday. I ignore this question because I'm trying to arrange something else for tomorrow. At some point though, I am going to have to get this girl outside of Luomo, but with only one full day remaining, I am running out of time.

The remainder of the night was spent at Terraco, but I never went into Help. Once again, I return to my apartment alone.

How much did you pay her? Since most of the girls get a shitty cut of the money at a terma, I normally give them 150R when they come to my apartment. Its more than they would get for 1 hour in a terma with me. Just interested to see how much she wanted from you. Plus, Help on a saturday night should not be missed:-)

(Message edited by Thumper on July 19, 2003)

I almost don't want to say because I was stupid as shit, especially during the low season. We never talked about money the first night but I gave her what the other guy had given her earlier which was 300R. Determined not to repeat that mistake 2 days later, I offered her 150R when she wanted to leave early, and she basically laughed at it. I didn't want to argue with her, so I gave her 300R again ( actually threw it in her lap.. I cleaned that up in my report above but the truth is the truth) and told her "no more". She understood that loud and clear. The thing I told Don is that she could have gotten that and probably more out of me if she had just played it better over the next week or so. During my second week, I ended up having a 4-peat with a girl that got a lot more than that in total. Thaiza needs to work on her business skills.

Live and learn, but I never let another one do that to me on this trip. Stay tuned.. a future thread will address me telling a girl to get the fuck out of my room....

As far as Help on a Saturday night, I know what you mean. I would catch it the next Saturday night.

(Message edited by aldaron on July 19, 2003)

No problem saying how much you payed. just interested in her asking price. I understand you paying her 300R for all night, she is a terma girl so you know she will provide good service. (couple of sessions that night, plus a morning session) But next time I know you will stick to your guns when It comes to a 1 hour afternoon session:-)

I too have had a couple of girls try and get the same amount for a couple of hours in the afternoon as they would for staying the whole night, its such a pain in the ass teaching them economics 101.(Shorttime = less money)

I can think of about a 1000R that I wish I had back during that two week stay, and she was 600 of them.

Admin: Photos have now been integrated into the report.

I'm still working on my report, but it's worth noting that my original deal with Taiza was supposed to be R300 for all night, and once I got too deeply involved (with the Franks visit, etc) she changed it to R300 for an hour or two.

I was going to see her Monday, and she stood me up, and on Tuesday I thought more and more about her changing the terms, and the more I thought about it the less I wanted to see her.

As you say, I fell in love with Taiza's personality, but I didn't appreciate her "bait and switch" deal

Still, I'll probably see her next time I come to Rio. Hopefully by then I'll have enough Portuguese to really enjoy that amazing personality ...

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She's all business David D. Do her in 4X4..... it's much cheaper.

Aldaron, I got to give you and anyone cerdit when I see it a newbie for a 1st timer in RIO you did 85% to 90% of all of the right things the way you went about your mission in in RIO.

I will say you are a fast learner when you notice its better in the long run to do some of the girls in the Termas for a hour in a nice suite on a good bed rather then take them back to your place due to the fact sometimes when you fuck some termas girls the second or in some cases the third time it isn't and can't even come close to the 1st time you have fuck them in the termas..

The only time in a few cases I have had some termas girls over to see me at my place over the years have been the really cool ones cool and they claim they love just hanging out with me (they say I make them laugh and show them a great time I love to dance and most girls in Brazil loves to dance.

They will see me for for free they would (pick me up at the airport/take a few days off or a week off from work and spend time with me going to different parts of Brazil and all (they say they need a break from being around so many sick ass mongersand how dirty some of them makes them feel) trust me I don't buy all the bullshit KNOW BODY MAKES A PERSON FEELS DIRTY UNLESS THEY ALLOW THEMSELVES TO FEEL DIRTY. its all about the $$$. I know they just trying to kiss my ass. (hell I am a monger to).

We had some great times in all I had to pay in some cases were their airfare and hotel room cost the $$$ they would spend on themselves or on me (dinner/tours/etc.) came from the $$$$ other mongers would send them threw their ATM MACHINE bank accounts.

I ran across so many girls that have mongers placing $$$ into girls accounts they called it that (wifey shit) the girls use their ATM card that some dumb ass mongers have sent them threw the mail or gave to them to used to draw $$ weekly or and some cases monthly I had a few girls show me laughing and bragging about how many different ATM machine cerdit cards that different dumb ass gringos have gave them the most I have seen was 7 different ATM cards.

Think about it if a whore is drawing $300.00 every two weeks out of the ATM machine from one monger to (STAY OFF THE PROGRAMA) thats $600 a month NOW if she got 6 other dumb ass gringo (mongers) sending her another $300 every two weeks thats= $4,200 a month 26 times (every two weeks) a year =$109,200 a year (tax free). needless to say thats more then a lot of guys on her makes a year..

I don't care if some of you think I am wrong having these whores spend $$$ on me who knows maybe some of the $$$ I KNOW FOR A FACT SOME OF YOU ARE SPENDING SOME OF THESE WHORES (I have enjoy some great dinners/trips off of them) I will say thank you right now


Maybe in the termas its the drink,bar,music or the other girls walking around almost naked the girls rubbing that ass up against your dick with just your rob on and she trying to make a sell to get you in the room before the other 100+ girls catches your eyes but after you make the deal and take them to your apartment a lot things changes.

For one she got you almost were she wants you into this game called this (WIFEY SHIT) then she starts telling you shit like just fuck me shit or DON'T SEE ANY OTHER GIRL BUT ME SHIT etc.or I be very mad at you or I don't like you anymore or why don't you like me shit? playing fucking mind games with you JUST SAY FUCK THEM don't fall for all that bullshit (maybe some of you shouldn't get so what you called shit face so much and drink so fucking much and think and use your damn brains.

I make it a habit if I pull a whore out of a termas it would be someone I haven't seen in the termas before either I see them at (BARBARELLA'S OR CLUB HELP) and work the deal if I don't get the type of deal I want fine fuck it I just see their asses at work the next day in the termas and go nuts and FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF THEIR ASSES (pulling their hair & smacking that ass hard in the doggie style while fucking her in the ass and turn them around and cum in their face .

With that all said, either I get a great deal at my place and they can get 100% of the $$$ or I will fuck them at the termas were they will get MUCH less either way I am going to fuck that ass the WAY I WANT TO IF ITS THE TYPE OF ASS I LIKE AND LOVE FUCKING (the nice and round with tan lines).

KidCisco

Great photo of Taiza. But she looks a little worn out, by the look in her eyes. Anybody seen the difference? Any comments??

Sbronx77: Taiza needs to slow down. I dont even know her really and I can tell that already. I hated to see her go back to work at 4X4.

(Message edited by Aldaron on September 10, 2003)

I agree with much of what Kid Cisco says but I wouldn't put it so crudely. There are definitely some girls that are conning guys. There ARE some honest girls but I'd say the norm is that most girls will try to extract as much as possible from you. Rule of thumb is if the girl makes up some story and asks you for money not to do it. I do know some good guys that meet girls this way and the girl really does go off the program. I don't really believe in paying to get a girl off the program but don't fault the guys who do this if it works. One guy I know does this and has friends following her around and knows she is off the program.

But KidCisco is correct about many of the girls. Some of the very girls that do this kind of stuff STILL work even after getting all this money because they view conning guys as their work.

I also know a few guys that have more money than they can spend and they give money to girls not expecting anything in return. These guys buy girls things like trips, computers, you name it. They aren't naive to believe they are the only one. More like they enjoy the girls and have more money than God so they do it. Look at that old coot that was married to Anna Nicole Smith.

It's best to keep your wits down in Rio and the most important thing is to have fun.

I think the most difficult ones to figure out are the semi-pros, the ones who hit the discos the last weekend of the month to grab some extra coin to pay the bills. Those girls can go either way.