I went to "The office", Cafe Alecazar, and met the gang who was at Rio. Everyone but me was a steely-eyed vet, and they were all very interesting and informative.

The legendary Don of RioTrips.com was there, and he suggested that I might want to join the party. "The normal weekly tour price is $225 but you can hang out and pay what you think is right". I must say that I was impressed that I felt no monetary pressure from him during the time we spent together, and I learned a lot. I recommend that you read this report carefully, however, before obtaining his services; he's helpful, but he's a dominant figure who can take charge of your trip for you, and yet he is no substitute for your own judgement.

So it was time for my first Terma run. Even though I understood the basics from all my readings on Club Hombre, the experience itself was still a bit disorienting, and it was a big help to have Don around for the orientation. (I realized this when I visited L'uomo alone later in the week). The group visited Terma 4x4, where I picked a cute redheaded spinner with lovely long red hair wearing a "sailor" costume with a short skirt and abbreviated top. I picked her because she was dancing a bit and I liked the way she moved - but when she and I sat down, there wasn't much chemistry. I probably should have passed, but I took her up to the room for the R$150 per hour fee.

She was a very cute girl and it was a turn-on just to see her beauty, but she wasn't that great a lover. I was able to do her twice, though, which was nice. In the end, we connected reasonably well as I tried stumbling along in my completely broken Portuguese. I discovered very fast that this language is very difficult for me to memorize, more's the pity. In each terma session, I seemed to try and fail to pronounce the same simple words. Tongue twisters such as "toweleta" evaded me for the whole trip, which is rather amusing considering how similar they look to the English words. Pronunciation is completely different!

When I returned, Don introduced me to one of his special friends, a hot mulatta named ___. She was very provocative and sexy, and I took her up to the room and we had a wonderful time. Just one pop, because my orgasm took an extremely long time, but she gave the best head and was a very enthusiastic fuck.

We then walked a long, long time to Terma 61. This Terma is a low-class one, and the girls are considerably less attractive than Terma 4x4. But there were a couple of cuties, and since the trip to the room was just R$60 (about $22) I decided to give one a try. I was right to do so, since while she wasn't as gorgeous as the Terma 4x4 girls, she was a fantastic fuck, giving a superb blowjob. She had short blonde hair and you can find her dancing near the area leading to the rooms. Since there are so few "doable" girls in this Terma, she's not difficult to spot.

During this time, Don informed me that I'd left my hotel key in the taxi. Oops! This was resolved by having the taxidriver go back to the hotel and hand it over to them. Very nice service, and this is a big reason to go with Don and his fleet of approved taxidrivers and other providers.

We then took a taxi back to cocacobana and had dinner at a Kilo restaurant. I really poured on the goodies and it cost me R$15 ($5.55) and change for the plate plus a Coke. (Overall, food in Brazil is amazingly good and amazingly cheap). We walked around for a while and wound up back at Cafe Alezar, where my trip changed abruptly.

For there was Tazia, legendary superstar. She was beautiful, but there are millions of beautiful girls in Rio, some who are more so than she. When you see her picture on the site, to be honest she doesn't look all that impressive, being too heavily made up in a way that masks her true charms. But that's because you haven't seen her in action. Pointing, gesturing, touching, cajoling, Tazia is a one-woman dramatic performance.

In a word, I was totally, hopelessly smitten. To add a little heartbreak to the scene, it was obvious that she seemed to like an oriental man I'd befriended, who knew decent Portuguese, far more than I. So I was reduced to looking longingly at her, thinking I could never really get her.

But Don said he could arrange things, for R$300 overnight (a bit over $100 at present exchange rates) and I agreed instantly. A bargain! (Well, not really, since even girls of her calibre would normally go for R$250. But for a genuine superstar I could bend the rules a bit.)

But first Tazia wanted to go to Franks, a strip club cum hooker bar. Here is where I made a major mistake: I agreed to go, because anything Tazia wants, Tazia gets.

I really didn't want to agree; I wanted to just go straight home with her. But Don convinced me I had it in the bag, but it would make her happier to go there first. Even then, I was wondering if she'd be stolen from me, with a huge bar tab to pay, once I left Frank's.

Well, I was wrong to worry about that, but the bar tab (including R33 admission each for me and her) was inconceivable, something like R$400. Don managed to get it reduced to a more manageable R$181, and when I paid with R$200 I never saw change. Franks' service was good, and I had to admit the drinks were good. But after this kind of experience, I don't think I'll try Frank's again.

I decided it was a good idea to give Don R$50 for his service, which is pretty close to the pro-rated rate per day he was charging his tours. He thanked me most cordially, so I have to assume I did the right thing. (Sandman verified that I did, for those curious).

Tazia was encouraging me to look around at the girls in Frank's, and she was looking at them with obvious lust, so I asked her if she liked girls. She lept on the idea like a starving dog would leap on a bone, and in no time she had selected a really cute, sweet and sexy girl. I didn't know it due to my ignorance of the language, but unfortunately I don't think that girl liked girls in the same way Tazia did. So I took her for R$300 and the other girl for R$200, which I probably wouldn't have done if I'd known the truth. They told me Tazia and her would stay for an hour to an hour and a half. I negotiated Tazia for two hours but that deal didn't seem to stick once I got into the room; this language barrier is a big issue.

NOTE: BIG warning flag: I should have backed off when the duration of an hour was mentioned. Tazia is a 4x4 garota and I could have seen her for an hour for R$150. I should have halted the thing then and there, especially considering what happened next. But I didn't, since I was too besotted. Try not to make this happen to you, guys!

Don poured all three of us in a taxi, which turned out not to have a meter. When we asked for the love hotel Don had recommended, the driver spent the whole trip arguing that we should go to his pick instead. When he finally, grumbling, got us around the corner to Don's pick, he charged us R$10 for the ride, that should have been worth no more than R$4. It would appear, then, that even Don can't protect you from all of Rio's traps and snares.

Once in the room, things turned sour -- and sadly, the fault has to be placed straight at my door. Despite their combined frantic efforts, I was unable to get hard. They did their best to please, and it wasn't their fault that they didn't. They moaned and groaned as though they were having a good time, but I knew I'd let them both down :-(. So the end result was that, by no fault of the girls, my most expensive time in Brazil to date was also the least satisfactory. Next time, I will make sure that I'm well rested before I session with a special girl like Tazia, let alone two special girls.

Tazia promised a real all-nighter tomorrow for R$700, and I have to say I was really looking forward to it, especially since she obviously loves the camera. When we started our session, she practically begged me to take pictures, and I was kicking myself for not bringing my camera.

I would really appreciate hearing the reaction of other mongers - what should I have done to get a better deal with Taiza? What should I have offered to pay? How much should I pay for a decent number of hours with Tazia with still and moving pictures of the sex? That might actually be worth a significant premium, even though Tazia is clearly a serious exhibitionist. I think (and hope, certainly!) that something like this will come up on my next trip to Brazil, and I think you will all agree that I had a poor hand to start with, and I played it even worse :-( ).

If you are interested in Don's services, I think it's worth noting that he can guide you into mistakes as well as bliss. Sometimes when I find someone I trust, I feel like I'm in a protected bubble and nothing can go wrong. I don't think Don meant to create that impression, and so I can't really blame him for my mistakes, but at the same time I think it's worth sending out the message that you should watch out, no matter who your guide is.

Have to take issue with what you said about Don. He never forces you into anything, and never substitutes his judgement for your own. You have to keep your head when those women start playing you. He is a guide, not a babysitter.

As for the dupla experience; were you on Sudafed by any chance?

You were right to stay away from Taiza though, especially if she was quoted you 700R. DAMN!!! Do Taiza at 4X4, and forget your movie.

(Message edited by aldaron on July 31, 2003)

I think you are pulling our legs davidd, after reading this board and studying for so long, I know there is no way you entertained paying Taiza 700R/night. Nice try:-) What happened to her staying all night for 300R? I would have handed her 150R when she decided to leave after 1 hour.

I was really under that girl's spell. The resemblance of her to a girl I knew in the states was very, very powerful.

But the main reason I even considered it was that I wanted to try making a porn film, and 700R is actually within the range of what that normally costs. Of course without signed agreements it would not have worked out anyway.

As I'm sure you've read by now, I recovered my senses when she blew me off.

I have been really short on time, but I am still going to write a chapter with my conclusions, probably on Sunday.

D

We'll see if you 'recovered your senses' at all when we get to day 3 and 4...but from how things have began, it doesn't look promising.
I may be headed to brazil next month, and will take these tales as examples of what not to do.
But I really hope that when I turn the electronic page, things start looking up!

Rio is a harsh mistress.

Sorry to hear that some of the details went awry.

I do not mean it as an insult, because it happens to me too, but I think you spun out of control a little with Taiza... Watch out for that, because it will make you consider doing retarded things like paying 3 times the going rate. (A brave admittance) It's tough to stay grounded in these situations, like when a porn star likes you... There must be certain chemicals that control your self-control. (Isn't that a weird bridge between the physical world and the mind.)

Looking forward to rest of the story.

I think Rio is one of the easiest places on earth to find a hottie girl to spend time with. I've been there 1/2 a dozen times in less than a year and think that it's easy to get around there. I've met Don but never used his services. Frankly, it still boggles my mind that people pay someone as much as $200 US to help them get around a city as easy as Rio.

For you rookies out there, Rio isn't that difficult to get around. Just take your list of termas with address and write them down in the pad. Arrange your hotel ahead of time and you really have nothing to worry about. The girls in Copa know what you are there for.

Thanks for the report. I said it before and I'll say it again. I don't think Taiza is all that. And without her makeup on I found her a little scarey. To each his own.

I hired Don and I will tell you why, because you are missing the point. It's not just about getting around the city. I had that down after 2 days. For someone that doesn't speak Portuguese, and has never been to Rio, and is going alone, hiring Don is a good move. You can't count on a bunch of hombres being down there at any given time to hold your hand. Doing Rio alone isn't as fun.

You have to look at the total package: the cell phone he provides, the access to him 24 hours, the translating, the people he introduces you to, the insurance he provides in case you do something stupid. There are so many things I wouldn't have been able to do without him... like call girls. Also, he has a cell phone full of trustworthy girls, that arent going to ask for a 100R for a taxi. Then there is the VIPs I wouldn't have gotten into without him. There are other things that I just didn't put in my report. But to say that it is just about him helping someone get around a city as easy as Rio, is not portraying his service accurately. I understand what you are saying for the experienced, but for the type of person I described above, it's a good move. I don't regret it at all.


(Message edited by aldaron on August 01, 2003)

Kitesurfer, if my remarks help just one hombre keep control over that kind of situation, I will consider my trip report to have been well worth writing :-).

Viagero, I did enjoy my time with Don, but I would have probably been happier keeping my own pace. I believe in being brave about telling about my mistakes since, as I told Kitesurfer above, I want to help people not make the same ones I did. And, of course, remind myself not to make them again :-).

Tazia's personality happens to be the splitting image of a girl I fell very much in love with in Los Angeles. This explains my weakness for her. Fortunately, by the time I had an opportunity to see her again, the spell faded and I snapped more or less back to normal.

The biggest problem with my trip was my horrid lack of Portuguese. That was a harsh lesson, but I will have absorbed it for next time.

D

Davidd, I'm enjoying your tales so far. Just a couple of points and these are only from my own personal viewpoint.

While I never did anything with Don outside of siting at his table a few times I felt quite comfortable. And I'm someone who prefers to go it alone even if I miss out on half the party. I ran into him and his group at Luoma and he took a few minutes to show me a few things in the place. Sure, I could have and would done it on my own but I appreciated the gesture. When the group left he invited me along but I had shot my load and was heading elsewhere. His last comment was to be careful along the street outside and to get a taxi. Naturally, I walked the streets back but keep looking behind me constantly.

I personally liked Don and Karl both and found them easy to hang with. I never felt a hard sell for their services. They were there and if I was interested in joining the party wagon they would be happy to make room. On my next trip I will probably use them to fill in the spots for places I never visited. The VIP sessions definitely sound fun even I'll end up chief limp dick of the day.

One other thing to mention. I get the feeling that you trying to "do" Rio in fast forward. Everything and everyone will be around tomorrow and the following days. The problem with doing too much homework pretrip is that it channels you into certain seemingly mandatory activities at a hyped up speed. That's when you get tired, when the money mistakes show up, when sessions go wrong because of misunderstood agendas.

Take a break. Find a comfortable spot to sit and read a book or people watch. Just wind down for a while.

David, in my opinion, when a girl in Rio reminds you of someone from your past that you cared about, you should run the other way instantly. To me that is a recipe for disaster.

Tight_fit, you are absolutely right. Not so much because I knew the sights and wanted to see them all, but because I had way too little time for the trip. I felt pressured to stay awake when I shouldn't have, and accumulate as many memories as possible.

Glad you liked the account.

Aldaron: I think you have an excellent point :-).

D

When Don said he could arrange things for 300 reais, did you ever get confirmation from Taiza? I would have brought it up with Don either way.

I am surprised that Don convinced you to go to Franks when it sounds like you were not too keen on the idea in the first place. He should have been able to tell you weren't too interested, and he knew that you it would end up costing you additional money ($70 which could have been $130)

For Taiza, you should have just went to 4x4. Then if it felt right, you could have negotiated something later. Instead, she played you. Instead of $50, it cost you $220. Even with her comfort in front of the camera, it would have been smoother and more efficient to set it up after she already knew you.

Like you David, I prefer to keep my own pace. Don was nice to me and talked me into taking a pretty girl at our table, but I did pretty well on my own. I wrote a trip report on my mostly independent visit called "Falling in Love with Brazil". I had the time of my life, better than times in Costa Rica and Thailand, and spoke no Portugese.

Another option would be to use riofantasy.com, per the website it is only $2250 USD for two nights in an apartment with a girl. It includes airfare and a cellphone.

Only $2250? That's dirt cheap.

David- You should never pay over 200 reals for all night with any garota. You control the money, the girls need you. You were conned by Taiza, and going to Franks was a part of that plan, the plan being to relieve you of as much of your money as possible-running up the bill at Franks , which is a clip joint to begin with, and selecting another girl for even more money. You can be sure Taiza knew that girl and it was all part of the plan. The days when Taiza was a "superstar" are long gone. She is now reduced to hustling newbies...

Bobby, you're right on about Taiza. Now, the better question is why Don is still making introductions for/to her. One of his key roles is screening and usually he's reliable in that regard. I'm a Don supporter but more stories like this and I won't be.

I have Taiza on my list of girls I would really like to do when I go to Rio. But all these stories about her becoming a scam artist are really starting to scare me away. It seems like the business is really hardening her up a bit. That is too bad.

If I see her at 4x4, I'll probably give her a whirl but I doubt I would pull her out of Help if she was there.

I am not big on having the warm body in my bed and given the rash of stories of people being robbed or having trouble with all-nighters I think if I pull out of Help I am going to stick to the Love Motels. I can't imagine the love motels will be any more than paying the extra girl fee at my own hotel anyway.

I had the same MO when I went to Buenos Aires, but for different reasons. There I didn't have security concerns (thank Goodness for digital safes, Rio need those instead of keyed safes), I was just concerned about the GF stopping by my hotel and catching me.

Bobbyt: I was there at Frank's Bar that night and it wasn't set up as a scam. Taiza did not even know the girl. She suggested a dupla because she didn't want to stay all night with him, but David agreed because he was love-struck, and Taiza knew it (Latinas 101, David). This is the only reason I chimed in on this series of threads. David misrepresented what happened in his report, and accused Don of high-jacking his trip. I was Don's full-time client... not David. At some point you have to take responsibility for your own actions..... and mistakes. This wasn't David's first mongering trip, and he has been a member of this website for a while. That is what makes some of his decisions so perplexing.

Seaman: As for Don, I think Taiza embarassed him after this episode, and the one that happened with me two days later. I messed up and paid her 300R for all night one night, and two days later paid her 300R again for what I thought was allnight, but turned out to be for two hours. That was all on me though, and I'm not going to blame anyone else for it.
For the record though, he wasn't referring her... she just showed up at Alcazar that night, and he asked her if she wanted to go to Frank's with us. It was a good idea because it kept the sharks away from our table.

Taiza is back working at 4X4 now, so everybody go there and do her cheaply. I'll never do her again though. There are so many better options in Rio.

I hope to meet you guys someday.

Franks and Barbarellas can be treacherous if you dont speak the language and dont know the rules in advance. They almost always screw up the bill--on purpose I suspect. Lucky you had Don with you for that. I recommend new guys go with someone who has been and understands the deal.

I ended up paying 155 reals to get out of Barbarellas my one time there. That was one cover charge for me (50 reals), one bar fine (50 reals, I guess) for the garota, and 40 reals for about six drinks (2 for me, which should have been in the cover charge and 4 garota drinks, 2 tequila shots plus a drink each for the two garotas that Skull Jockey was entertaining and then left with me :-) ) plus the 10% tip. So, I understand the cover and two drinks plus the bar fine, but are the regular and/or garota drinks 10 reals apiece there?

The original bill came to me for 200 reals so I asked the waiter what was up and he "corrected" my bill.

How much did I get clipped on this exchange?

I don't agree that David accused Don of highjacking his trip. He paid for service and it sounds like it was half-assed. The fact that someone else was a full-time client is irrelevant.

To accuse David of misrepresenting and accusing is a misrepresentation--wait a sec, I am getting confused here!

Like I said, maybe he is a good candidate for "riofantasy.com", then he can keep from getting ripped off. (hehe j/k)

On an unrelated topic, was the website changed to make the letters real big or did I screw up my settings somehow?

Regards

O-kay guys, this needs to be made a little clearer - David was not really a client of Don's, he introduced himself to the crew at Alcazar and was just kind of tagging along and then agreed to pay Don $50 or whatever for the limited one-day assist. At least, that is the way I read the situation.

I'm not sure how I misrepresented my relationship with Don. If you read the very first paragraph of the report, you will see that I mention Don let me tag along, mentioning that I should pay what I think is fair. Later, I mention a lack of financial pressure to pay him. And then I mention that I did in fact pay him, voluntarily, without pressure from him.

I'm a little tired right now, but I don't see where I accused Don of "hi-jacking" my trip. I believe that if Don had performed his job as guide and "steerer out of trouble", he would not have encouraged me to go to Frank's. However, the ultimate decision to do so was in fact my own, and I should have listened to the warning signs instead of drifting along with the gang.

Hope that helps.

D

Clifton--David said he gave Don R$50, or about $17. A nice gesture, but I doubt seriously anyone would consider that payment for a days service. I believe to hire Don it is $50 for a days service, if he will do it. I wouldnt. I am sure Don thought that was a tip for helping him out.

Secondy, how on earth was Don supposed to know going to Franks was going to not be a good experience? It is usually a good time to be had by all. If someone doesnt want to do something, they need to say, "no thanks". Don did stay on top of the bill--which he always does.

Thirdly, why am I even having this discussion?

Oh, I thought it was 50 dollars US, not 50 reals. For 50 reals the level of service should consist of pointing you towards the nearest McDonalds for dinner and advise not to pick up the tall, husky-voiced hookers on the street just below the Debret. That's it for that price :-)

Catocony...it was nice meeting you by the way. I hope you come back to Rio soon.

Catocony if 50 reals should buy you just pointing
to nearest McDonald, than the garota should give
just nude hand job for just 100 reals in therma

Vik, I'm not sure if Don gives nude handjobs or not and if he does, I have no idea what he charges :-)

However, for his guide services, a day costs more than US$17 and change. That is my point. Don's not a shoeshine kid or beach pimp who points guys towards some random chick on the sidewalk or beach and then asks for his cut of the action. He offers a service for a fee and if he's not being paid accordingly then he's just being a nice guy. If you pay him US $200 for guide services and he leads you into getting clipped then you have a genuine beef and can complain away. This was clearly not the case here.

Semantics my friends.....

From above:
“I recommend that you read this report carefully, however, before obtaining his services; he's helpful, but he's a dominant figure who can take charge of your trip for you, and yet he is no substitute for your own judgement.”

Then he proceeds to talk about how he didn’t want to go, but Don insisted… etc.

My fee for Don worked out to be around 90R a day, so David, if at some point you slipped him 50R, you got off easy. You can’t expect him to hold your hand during everything when he has a full paying client for the week sitting next to him. I never asked him to hold mine anyway.


Clifton: It is relevant that I was his full-time client. I wanted to go to Frank’s Bar. He didn’t encourage David to go. He said… “do you want to go David?” ... and that was the end of the story, because we were going with or without him. To my knowledge, David hadn’t given him jack to that point, so he wasn’t obligated to do anything for him. Catacony was right… he never was a “client”, and the only reason I started posting messages (too many) on this report was because that was an unfair statement he made above, when he barely knew Don.

Also, I don’t think the riofantasy.com site is up anymore. Damn!

Wallstreet: do a search on Kidcisco and look for a lot of emoticons.


Anyway…. like GCL said… why am I having this discussion? None of this is very important as long as we all have a good time while we are down there, and I hope everyone has a blast.

David, you are a nice guy, and I’m sorry things didn’t work out as well as you might have liked, but you just need to learn how to say NO. I wish you luck on your next trip and if we run into each other again, I’m sure we will hang out.

I’m out of this thread……

Good Luck everyone!

I am not clear on how the proposed 700R/nite deal with Taiza was negotiated, was that also with the tourguide "helping" you, or was that your own brilliance at work?

Hope you don't mind me ribbing you a little bit, I think it was a good honest report. You go ahead call it the way you see it.

Aldaron:

A. Loved your report - very well written

B. I did look up KidCisco - he hasn't written one report - I guess he's only in the South American thread, which I don't usually follow.

Regards,

Wallstreet

Rudy, the confusion is that it had several components:

* R$300/night for her
* R$200 for the Frank's bar bill
* R$200 for the additional girl

Oh -- you were referring to my LATER R$700 deal. That was because I wanted to film us having sex and figured it would be worth some extra money for that. However, I never consummated it because she flaked out the first time and I regained my senses by the time the opportunity actually arrived. I think Don acted as a go-between for that deal, but I don't remember for sure. He probably did because Tazia doesn't know English well enough to propose it.

In terms of Day 2, Aldaron was right in his assertion. I remember what happened was that Tazia was going to Frank's no matter what, and that's what caused me to tag along. I had forgotten that and that may even absolve Don of much of whatever responsibility he should or should not have had.

So I apologise to everyone, including Don, for dragging us through this enormous thread. I still think that a guide would have done a better job in, well, guiding me through the swamp, but at the same time I was not Don's customer at that time. Let's just leave it at that and go back to the simple joys of fucking girls :-).

D

Re: Tourguide fees

$225USD/wk less $50USD taxi to and from airport = $175USD

Cell phone rental $5USD/day xtimes 7 days = $35USD

(from above) $175USD less $35USD = $140USD

$140USD divide by 7days = $20/day

good math! worth every penny 1st trip

Thanks for the confirmation on the math, SM.

That is "$20USD/day" as in "NOT $50USD/day".

I had a great time with Taiza, and a great time with the Alcazar crowd. My time was spent primarily with GCL, not Don, with no pressure for $$, and we had a blast. In the end, I tossed him some coins (considerably more than you tossed him, but then again, he was one of the people who made my time there unforgettable).

Sorry to hear about your Taiza experience. I suspect that you'll want to improve your own game with these girls, taking charge, squelching any bullshit, and savoring the subtleties of the dance. Isn't there a "chicas 101" thread somewhere on this site?

I met Taiza on my own, alone at 4x4, with no help from the outside. In a club full of stunning garotas, with very few hombres at that time of day, I instantly spotted Taiza, and she spotted me looking at her. I walked up to her immediately, without hesitation, and said hello. So she knew right away that I unhesitatingly wanted her. That sends a message to a girl. "There are TONS of beautiful women here, but I think you are the hottest." And unequivocal actions speak louder than the words themselves. Works with working girls and non-pros alike.

We flirted and played around, and the vibe improved. Hey, if you don't have the vibe with a girl, pass on her, no matter how striking. There's plenty more out there. And once you've got her interacting with you, take the time to INSPECT her, by asking questions, looking at her, and noticing her finest points. The fact that you are being picky in a positive way improves the vibe, generally. Those first few instances are when she'll form her impression of you, and that will determine the vibe.

If (or I should say when) a girl starts to test you by taking advantage of you, the proper step is to firmly say "no" to the bullshit. If you do this, then you've passed their little test. They love it and so will you. You get extra points if you don't take it personally and laugh it off. If you insist on reasonable rates, rather than rip-off rates, the session quality will be better because you will have earned a measure of respect. If they think you are a wimp, then you've lost them.

I had two great sessions with Taiza at 4x4 (including the second one, in which I took the pics I posted at this site. Yeah, she LOVES the camera). They were great sessions, with Taiza wanting to push the envelope in various ways. I let her do lots of the work, showing off what she could do, going with the direction of her libido.

After the first session, I found her giving me her cell phone number, and offering to come to my hotel all night for considerably less than the numbers posted here. That night, I met another insanely beautiful woman at a different place, so I took that woman to my hotel. I called Taiza and let her know I wasn't coming; that I would see her again at 4x4 the next day. I showed up and and sessioned again, and I think she was surprised I didn't jump on her all-night offer. (hint: arousal and interest). She emphatically told me I should call her, and she told me all the things she was going to do to me back at the hotel...

The fact that I kept control of the interaction, to some extent, bought me something, I think. And with Taiza in particular, I think there's something to be said for finding her on your own, rather than via the Alcazar crowd.

Even more humbly than before,
Bull_winkle

Good points Bull_Winkle and good advice to me its always better to be your own man and work your own game plan.

The girls love to see a man in control standing on his own without being hand held and (escorted/guided around) I never rolled with a group of other mongers it to much like a high school click or college beer drinking days.

Even in the service I NEVER ran around with other sailors I always had better luck when I went out alone and pick up girls.

Taiza, is a cool girl and she like to be took control of, but she will run all over you if she think you are weak or a sucker, she laughs and talk about clowns she have played and made a fool of all the time to me.

Its always better to me to work your own deal out with the whores you cut out the middle man, I never had a problem of working out a deal, to me thats half the fun.

I told Taiza, talk your bullshit and save it for the other gringos, but don't try to play me I don't play that bullshit then I bent her over and fuck her in her nice tan line assand pulled her hair, ha,ha,

KidCisco

Well put, KidCisco, well put. All true.

Personally, I'm not generally a big fan of ass-fucking. But since she insisted, in that playful way of hers...

Kid,

You are my hero. Can you autograph my bottle of Vigel. Make it out to Sancho.

Seaman I will be in RIO next week, you can sign my second bottle. Make this one out to my little brother (little Sancho).

Thanks guys,