By Dcool1 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 06:13 am: Edit |
I just came back from the Francfort area where I spent five days exploring the famous three German FKK clubs : Atlantis, Oase and World.
Before I give my opinion on each club, let me make first a few remarks :
- My monger life started one year ago and all happened in Rio. I have no experience of mongering outside the carioca city. So my views are influenced by this single experience and in conclusion of this report I wrote a special chapter « FKK clubs versus Rio termas ».
- After hobbying in Rio, I thought Brazil was the ultimate stage, that no place would surpass my beloved brazilian paradise. In a certain sense, it is true when you come to talk prices, enthusiasm, party atmosphere, availability of girls. But you will see below that FKKs in Francfort can be a nice alternative to tropical heaven.
- One thing you should know and be prepared to : the clubs near Francfort are located in the middle of nowhere. I presume that for land cost and privacy reasons they have been built in the country on the outskirts of small villages. It is almost impossible to reach these clubs at one go. Expect to do several attemps, back and forths, circles with your car. There are two reasons for this : 1) the information given by the clubs is very poor or sometimes inaccurate and 2) directions system on the roads and highways in the Francfort area is really bizarre and quite difficult to read. The secret : try to get a map of the small villages on the internet, start your roadtrip way in advance, and last but not least, do not panic (you won’t find those places at first try and no, you are not an idiot !).
- Since all the clubs are located north of Francfort, it is wise to choose an hotel in that area. The Best Western in Karben could be a good solution as one Hombre already suggested.
FKK WORLD : THE SHERATON OF SEX.
I reached FKK World in the village of Pohlheim at 9 pm on my very first night in Francfort. This club is almost 40 miles away from downtown Francfort. It is the furthermost. When approaching the property, I thought going to enter a sort of Disneyland. Parking lots in all directions : P1, P2, P3,…From the outside you cannot see the building, but just trees, woods, greenery. Not of course Disneyland’s size but what can be a Hilton or Sheraton type of hotel in terms of luxury, equipment, decoration. Staff was very friendly and professional. As entrance fee I paid 68,50 euro with credit card (you pay only 65 by paying cash). Once you paid this amount, you have access to all the facilities of the club (pools, garden, sauna, jacuzzis, …) and you can get breakfast, lunch and dinner plus « all you can drink » non alcoholic beverages. Alcool is prohibited. Massage parlour is extra (30 euro). Girls also (50 euro for 30 minutes/ 1 hour and the « specials » -cum in the mouth, anal,…- are 100 euro). The club is open 18 hours per day from 10 am to 4 am, 7 days a week. Same rules for Oase (close at 5 am) and Atlantis except for the meals (I will return to that later).
My first night at FKK World was a Tuesday night in mid-August. There were about 15/20 girls for the same number of guys. Among the girls, 6 or 7 were doable for me. So my first impression was : what a wastage of space and equipment since this place can easily welcome 200/300 people. Also a small amount of people in this huge club creates specially at night a very dull and cold atmosphere. Then, approaching a girl and starting a conversation seems quite not natural and somehow very odd (at least for a first experience in this kind of club – you wear towel, girls are naked). Although I had a nice and good dinner, I decided not to go with a girl this night. I was tired and the best girls were busy. I did not intend to wait until 1 or 2 am before getting the girl I wanted. I considered my first evening at a FKK as a recognition/observation tour. My plan was to come back on a Saturday and spend the whole day before heading back to Paris by air. They had scheduled what they called a « Mallorca party » and I wanted to see the garden and the outdoor installations in daylight. If the club facilities impressed me, the limited selection of girls did not. But my intuition was that FKK World has a potential and should find his way in the world of the FKKs (the club just opened late May).
On Saturday, I had a much different impression. I arrived around noon. It was a sunny day. It was great to sit naked by the swimming pool, surrounded by nice naked girls (different line up from Tuesday), enjoying the calm and the silence of a huge and superb garden in the middle of the german countryside. I brought my books and CD player with me. I spent a gorgeous relaxing afternoon wondering which ass I would finally like to fuck. I chose Stella’s. She seemed to be sweet and natural and she was. Born in Croatia, she spoke very good english. After a nice conversation which showed her good education and solid sense of humour, Stella took me to the room. We kissed, I went to DATY and we did several positions. I was in command most of the time. Stella was a little passive but it did not bother me. She seemed to enjoy every minute. Like me. Around 5 pm, it was time to leave. As I left the club, more girls were arriving. Some very young with a kind of a hard core look, others more matured, probably kind of secretaries wanting to make extra cash (and have more fun?) during the weekend. The “Mallorca party” was going to start and the DJ was warming up. I regretted not to be able to stay that Saturday night to see all these naked girls dancing with these men only wearing those towels on their hips…
All in all, if FKK World can survive and challenge its current shortage of customers, it can be a great club for relaxing and partying. It has to improve its selection of girls. I think the management is conscious of this weakness and is trying to pour more girls in the club. FKK World is a superb scene, it just needs the appropriate actors.
FKK OASE : HOME OF THE STARS AND BUGS
Among the three, Oase is the closest club from downtown Francfort (20 miles). Located in Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen, near Bad Homburg, it is mostly busy with people staying short term in Francfort for business purposes. On a Thursday night at 11pm when I was there, the bar section was packed and there were almost more guys than girls. Oase really got the party flavour. The main hall looks like a discotheque but there is also a nice garden with cabins and tables and chairs where you can sit for good daily dinner or barbecue (included in the entrance fee). There is also an inner pool, sauna, jacuzzis, massage room, tanning machine. Also the rooms in Oase are very well decorated. They have mirrors on the sides and on the ceiling. It was not the case at World where the rooms were more casual and with no mirrors. In each club I found the premisses quite clean and you can use as much fresh towels as you need. Staff at Oase was friendly and gave me all the information.
Let’s talk now about the girls. Most of them are Eastern European, mainly Russian. But you can find some Germans, I even met a sweet little blonde Italian (looking 16 years old and speaking french !) and a Thaï. The problem with Oase is that you get a lot of « bugs » who are very pushy and whom it is very difficult to get rid of. I almost finished with an argument with one of them. Actually in Oase, you find two categories of girls : the « bugs » and the stars. Not so many kind of average girls. The « bugs » go naked and the stars do not. In case you have difficulties to recognize them… I saw 4 or 5 stars that night and star #1 was a Russian I guess. Did not catch her name. Imagine Elizabeth Taylor in her 20’s, taller and even thinner, yes, a kind of « Cleopatra », of Egyptian princess. Long black hair, mediterranean look. Absolutely amazing to see such a beauty (actress, model type) in a FKK club. She was busy for hours with a bunch of Italians who imagined themselves as Caesar and started a special « Cleopatra » waiting list. I was also hypnotised by this stunner. I watched her for a long time and she noticed that she kept my attention very deeply. At a given time, she sent me an OK signal for me to take her (when the club is crowded, the stars come to choose their clients). Consciously or unconsciously, I decided not to go with her. I thought I needed more time. More time to think, more time to phantasm, more time to wait for this girl whom you do not do like you eat a sandwich between two impatient fake Caesars scotched to their watch. This girl should be met in late afternoon before the crowd comes in. I am ready to wait several weeks and I hope she will be there when I’ll be back.
I did not jump on star #1 but star #2 or 3 was fine for me as she was less busy and less « inhuman » than Cleopatra. Svetlana, a very sensual Russian, was finally my choice for this night and I was not disappointed. Some of the Russians I saw in those FKKs looked very much like these young Eastern European gymnasts we see on TV at the Olympics. Long neck, big eyes : they really got a touch of class. Svetlana was one of them plus she had a nice firm breast and a very well tanned skin. She was experienced, skillful, adorable. BBBJ, DATY, long and intense sex which lasted one hour instead of 30 mn as I was so high. I left Oase with wonderful memories in my head and this strange feeling about Cleopatra : would I be able to make love to a goddess ? Don’t you just fall on your knees and cry before a masterpiece ?
FKK ATLANTIS : THE GIRLS NEXT DOOR
Located in the village of Altenstadt (about 30 miles from downtown Francfort), Atlantis do not have lavish installations and equipment and the garden and outdoor pool are very small but it offers, in my opinion, the friendliest girls. However, the club has some very nice rooms but only in the northern aisle, at left hand on top of the stairs (you can ask the girls). Also they do not have buffet every day but they can order for you very affordable good food from restaurants nearby. I loved the girls in Atlantis. They got it all : Germans, Russians, Africans, Dominicans, Jamaïcans, Brazilians, Roumanians, …No real stunners but quite young and not so young exciting average type of girls. Except for two or three, they all look like the girl next door and had a very nice attitude. At peak hours, there are about 30 to 40 girls.
I first met Nicoletta, a Roumanian. It is impossible you cannot meet Nicoletta. She always walks around and takes her chance with somebody she likes. I liked her also. She spoke very good english and she gave me all the information about the club. She was very sweet and I went with her twice. I liked to kiss this tall, thin, smiling blonde. I met also a German lady in her late 30’s for sure. She comes to the club to make extra money. Late 30’s but in very good shape and going to the gym. I expected experience. I got experience plus passion. Maybe the most intense moments of my trip. Deep kissing, no rest, non stop sex for an hour with final in the mouth. Great memories. My last session in Atlantis was with Luana, a Brazilian from Sao Paulo. I was glad to practice a little bit my portugese. Luana was adorable but Nicoletta took so much energy out of me just a few hours before that I was never in a condition to penetrate the unfortunate Paulista who did nevertheless a great job and knew how to HANDle the situation. The irony of that trip in Germany was that the only girl I could not fuck was Brazilian !
In Atlantis I noticed two other girls whom I would have loved to do also. A very sensual blonde who shows me her ability when she started to play a scene of Deep Throat, the movie, with one of her customer on the couch just opposite to mine. Fortunatly, in all these FKKs when you sit somewhere, you are always very close to paper towels, thanks God! The other girl was russian. A Svetlana type of girl, a sort of gymnast athlet, tall, thin, long neck, big eyes. Two reasons among many others which will lead me again to Germany between trips to my beloved but remote Rio do Janeiro.
FKK CLUBS VERSUS RIO TERMAS
Below are some reflexions on the differences between the two destinations:
- The whole atmosphere is different. Don’t forget that in termas you are in the center of a big city. It is south America, it is party time. The premisses are smaller and similar to discotheques. Forget all the equipment, space, saunas, inner and outdoor pools, gardens, cabins in the garden… In the Francfort’s FKKs, you are far away from downtown Francfort. You are in the German countryside. You go more for relaxing, you take your time, it is more like an hotel club concept.
- Prices : the entrance fee for FKKs is not cheap but it is all inclusive. In the best ones you can get three meals (all you can eat) with drinks (no alcool) and access to very good quality equipment. In termas, cheap entrance fee and sometimes no fee but you pay for drinks (alcool permitted) and food (not so cheap). Prices for girls : I think in Rio in a decent terma you start at 120/150 reals for 40 mn (about 50 euro) in a tiny simple cabina (suites are more expensive, maybe 70 or 80 euro). In FKKs, you pay 50 euro for 30 mn in nice and spacious rooms (but you pay substantial entrance fee). My opinion is that prices for girls and access to club equipment in FKKs are very competitive when you compare cost of living in Germany and Brazil.
- Girls selection : the availability of girls in termas is tremendous. The ratio girls/guys is always in our favour in large proportion. Whenever you go, at any time, you always find an attractive charming girl in a terma ready to please you and sometimes it is hard to choose between the candidates. This is not the case in FKKs. Sometimes ratio is 50/50, and even worse. The number of very good quality girls is limited. Expect to wait before getting the big stars and maybe rejected at peak hours.
- The girls : In Rio they are party minded, they have the energy, it is all fun. In FKKs, you find more educated girls. Many speak several langages. Specially those girls from Eastern Europe are really more sophisticated and more refined. In Rio, girls are exotic, they are from a different culture. In FKKs, I had the impression many times to fuck the girl next door, the student or the secretary I see in the streets when I go to work in Paris. I liked that impression. Not to say that I like exotism as well.
- Last but not least : in Germany, contrary to Rio, the girls provide very comfortable and very good quality condoms but they won’t give you their cellular number…
The links :
www.fkk-world.de
www.fkk-oase.de
www.atlantis-therme.de
www.viamichelin.com
By Coats001 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:24 am: Edit |
Nice report Dcool1.
Thanks.
By Sandman on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:48 am: Edit |
Well done Dcool. Board has been needing an update on the FKK's. That Oasis web site is something.....
sandman
By FLhobbyer on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 10:10 am: Edit |
Excellent report!
By Vik12345 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 01:36 pm: Edit |
In FKK clubs you will never complain that girl is
not shaved as in therma in RIO. And interesting
thing about Germany and FKK clubs ,there are one
day a week in Oase club when girls are not naked and wear something but they will go to sauna or swim in pool only naked. But no pictures or
dates outside like in Rio, and you will feel so safe in Germany after Rio.
By Athos on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:39 pm: Edit |
DCool1
That was a great report. Thanks.
By Dcool1 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 04:27 pm: Edit |
Thanks guys for encouraging!
Vik : I even shared once in FKK World the shower room with girls shaving their pussies besides me. I couldn't believe my eyes.
In Atlantis they have also once a week a "dessous party" with the girls wearing lingerie. According to Nicoletta, this particular evening is not very popular among German customers...
Dcool
By Sabio on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:41 pm: Edit |
Dcool:
Great report. Really.
About the nudity, you seem to mention that in Oase the better girls are not naked?
By Marcopolo on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 12:08 am: Edit |
Dcool1; great report, you ciertainly have clarify a lot of my questions and curiosity about Fkks. i'm sure those european girls are awesome.///
By Bull_winkle on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:46 am: Edit |
Consciously or unconsciously, I decided not to go with her. I thought I needed more time. More time to think, more time to phantasm, more time to wait for this girl whom you do not do like you eat a sandwich between two impatient fake Caesars scotched to their watch. This girl should be met in late afternoon before the crowd comes in. I am ready to wait several weeks and I hope she will be there when I’ll be back.
Ok, that was great. Congrats on a superb report.
By Vik12345 on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 07:00 am: Edit |
Sabio, all girls in FKK clubs are naked ( at least
in Oase club they are fined if they are not ). The
best one, what does not mean the most beautiful,
will just not bother you if you show no interest,
but be willing to please you if you do choose them.
By Texxman on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 10:38 am: Edit |
Dcool1
I going to Frankfurt on Oct, 3rd, anybody else going to be there?
Dcool1 how far was Atlantis, Oais, and world from BW in Karben and if you can post the directions to these places I would very much appreciated. Did rent a car with Navigation system? and how did you get the direction, I having very hard time getting detail direction to these clubs.
By Dcool1 on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 03:11 pm: Edit |
Thanks for your comments Hombres!
Vik, sabio : I can assure you that during this particular night I was there in Oase, only the most beautiful, the most special girls ("Cleopatra", Svetlana, the Italian girl, the Thaï girl,...) were wearing a bikini or something similar. All the other girls were naked or topless with a string. This only happened in Oase during my trip.
Texxman,
Directions...That's the only problem.
Actually, I did not stay at this BW in Karben. No rooms were available. My hotel was near the Airport (south of Francfort!). I did not have the choice (availability + my budget).
I recommand this BW in Karben like RobertX in his report because it is only 5 or 7 miles from Oase and 10 or 15 from Atlantis and maybe 30 from World : great location!
Oase and World give directions in german on their websites. Atlantis shows a map. I will translate for you the info and add some comments...tomorrow. It is midnight now in Paris and these directions are really a headache. Please forgive me...
Dcool
By Vik12345 on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:03 am: Edit |
Dcool, looks like the day you visited Oase there
was a "dessous party" with the girls wearing lingerie ( once a week ).
By Dcool1 on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 04:00 pm: Edit |
Directions for Oase :
1)From Francfort driving on A5
Take exit Bad Homburg (there is no exit #)and take A661
Then take exit Bad Homburg/Stadtmitte (towncentre)
Then you follow direction "Ober-Erlenbach"
At third lights take left to "Karben/Burgholzhausen"
When you see an AZB garage and gas station in a little town on this road, turn left (just before the garage)
After a Seat car dealer, you go for one or two miles and you will see the Oase parking lot on the left.
2) From Karben driving on B3
On B3 going to Bad Homburg, you take direction "Ober-Erlenbach" then on the right you will follow direction "Burgholzhausen"
On this road you will see the Seat car dealer and then Oase on your left after one or two miles.
Directions for FKK World (from Francfort or Karben)
Take A5 direction "Kassel" and exit at Fernwald
After exit take left to Pohlheim
After one mile take left and always follow direction "Pohlheim-Garbenteich"
Once you are in Pohlheim-Gargenteich you have to cross a railroad
Take left once you have crossed the railroad and you will see signs for FKK World.
Directions for Atlantis
1) From Francfort
Take A45 direction "Giessen, Dortmund"
Exit at Altenstadt
After exit take left to Altenstadt (be carefull this crossroad is dangerous, not much visibility on your right imo)
In the town of Altenstadt, you'll find a roundabout
Take left at roundabout, after one mile you will find on your RIGHT (and not left as it is wrongly posted on Atlantis map) a REWE supermarket
Turn left at the lights (opposite to Rewe)
Follow the main road which will make a turn on the right and go straight and you will find the signs for Atlantis.
2) From Karben
Go to the town of Nidderau and then take direction to Altenstadt. At roundabout take right and then same as above (REWE etc...)
Good luck to you all!!
I made it without navigation system on my car so you can do it!
Dcool
By Robertx on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:10 am: Edit |
Great report. I had been to Oase and Atlantis earlier this year. I also found Oase VERY difficult to find and almost gave up. It is on a road south of the tiny village "Friedrichs". The road looks like you're driving onto someones field and they have no signs!
I used a B&B www.altenstaedter-moenchhof.de, which required reservations and was nothing to write home about, but safe and close to the action. They have an E-mail link under Kontakte and responded to my E-mails in English.
I've never been to Rio, but noted in the FKKs I visited that very many girls speak English very well.
By Texxman on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:33 am: Edit |
Dcool1
Thanks for the directions
By Mikenyc on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 12:02 pm: Edit |
HI,
Do they have fkks in any other cities in germany?Munich?Berlin?