Peter
Thanks for info. Also can you tell the typical selection range in ages and looks? Rio termas for example finding an 18 or 19 year old is fairly easy but age varies from 18 to late 20's. I like both girls pictured. DFK, BBBJ is all good to me as long as well done.

Age range generally 18-30. Most girls are in the 21-26 range. I find most girls under 21 can't mentally cope with the job and offer worse service. there are some girls out there who are over 30, but not all that many. The pictures are of typical girls who are working in the better clubs. check out the Wildenrath home page, where I have the pictures from. I find they have the most attractive girls at the moment.

Looks also go the range, from some 4-6's and on a good night a lot of 8+'s. I am quite young and know a lot of really hot chicks, but Atlantis in the old days was full of girls I thought were really good looking. Now it can be hit and miss. at World last time I went there were only 4 girls who were 8+ and at least 20 who I wouldn't screw with someone elses dick. At Wildenrath there are about 8 girls from 20 who I consider 8+, but a couple of months ago the numbers looked very different.

I'll include a picture of Natascha from Wildenrath who is German and 24 years old and provides a really good service. she really gets into it, and when I went down on her and started fingering her while licking her ass she said, "wow, you'R wild and really know how to work a girls body" and she meant it.



Just so that it doesn't look like I am advertising for Wildenrath (which is my favourite club by a long shot) I will give my honest opinion of the pro's and cons of that and other clubs. All pictures are from their home pages, but are all accurate and hardly any are retouched.

Wildenrath :
Pro's : Great girls, familial atmosphere, cleanliness, free beer (only here and Happy Garden have beer), good and plentiful food, Sauna (which I have never used) outdoor terrace and a big lawn, attractive pricing for longer term bookers like me (each addtional 30 mins is 25€, and you only pay for each additional service once)
Con's : Not a mega club (so only 15-20 women on an average night, Sometimes a strange crowd (especially when the gypsys come), no pool or hottub facility, girls are not naked



Happy Garden
Pretty much the same as Wildenrath except with more women (although in my opinion not more good looking ones) and they don't have food fo as long (it goes away quickly).



Babylon:
Pro's: Young girls, BBBJ to warm up on the couch, guaranteed DFK, they offer a decent buffet again, women are fully naked
Con's: I am not convinced on the cleanliness, especially in the contact room, the pricing structure is a bit steep, The customer base is quite old and seems to be regular.



Atlantis (to be honest I haven't been there for 1.5 years)
Pros : Sheer volume of women, indoor and outdoor pool, hot tubs and multiple saunas, women are fully naked
Cons: I think the entrance fee is high and the pricing is higher than the clubs around düsseldorf, especially for extras, The cleanliness of the changing rooms, especially showers leaves a lot to be desired. Has the feeling of a Fuck Factory, small rooms etc. Not a very personal feel, some people don't like the dark lighting, buffet is not everyday.




World (Been there twice and probably won't be back for a while)
Pro's: Nicest facilities you can humanly imagine. Indoor and outdoor pool, 2 hot tubs, movie room, massage facilites (additional cost, but real licensed masseur), Saunas, large landscaped garden with multiple huts and lounge chairs outside, full buffet all day long, very clean
Con's: In my opinion the worst selection of girls around, too few toilets, same price structure as atlantis



I could go on forever, I have been to tonnes of Clubs: Oase,



Sylt Nürnberg, Fantasyland, Relax, Parkschloss Dali, Freudenbergstr., Herne, dortmund, La Folie Berlin, Heavensgate, Wiago, Dolce Vita and diverse other clubs. Each club has its own charms and I like going to a new one every once in a while. I have my home club (wildenrath) but I always like to see what the others have to offer.

Hope this has been of help,

Peter

Peter
Forgive my ignorance but was this a city ranking or national ranking? If it was a city ranking, can you give us your national ranking. That could be of help for visitors wanting to do the whole country in 1 week. Which cities would you recommend to visit, goal is not to drive everywhere but to hit a few cities and possibly visit a place several times depending on selection.
Have you been to Czech Republic? If so can you compare?

Are most of these clubs near Frankfurt? Can't wait to go back. Planning another trip in January. I loved Atlantis because of the sheer number of women, but some of these other clubs sound great. Remember seeing an advertisement in Frankfurt for World, but don't know exactly where it is. Have some very good memories all around...basically did the world in one place. Loved those Thai's...little petite young thing and those eastern european girls. Yummy!!! Unfortunately some of the outdoor fun I had in summer will not be possible in winter. Highly recommend the addition 50 euro's for finishing the BBBJ in mouth. Awesome. I think I have given up my Mexico mongering days for awhile. Just got too spoiled in Germany's FKK.

Atlantis is 40 minutes East of Frankfurt

Oase is 30 minutes north of Frankfurt

World is 50 minutes north of Frankfurt and 20 minutes from Oase and 30 minutes from Atlantis

Fantasyland (Which I think has a new name now) is about 1 Hour from Frankfurt and halfway between Frankfurt and Cologne/Düsseldorf (these cities are 15 minutes apart).

Cologne Düsseldorf are about 200 KM north of Frankfurt. The A3 is the main highway joining the two areas, and Oase and World are more on the A5 (which runs sort of parallel)

Babylon is 30 minutes from Cologne and also 30 minutes from Düsseldorf, directly between them and due west.

Planet Happy Garden is about 30 minutes North West of Düsseldorf.

Parksauna Wildenrath is about 30 minutes Due West of Düsseldorf and about 20 minutes from Happy Garden.

The Red Carpet Clubs are a group of about 9 clubs located along the A40 and A42 highway between Essen and Dortmund. These clubs are called that becasue they all have the same owner and the same red carpet, their pricing is similar and quite cheap with 20 minute sessions including BBBJ at 25€ and entrance fees of between 20 and 35€. These clubs are not as luxurious and sometimes the service is so/so, but sometimes you hit a jewel.

Heavens Gate is about 40 minutes northeast of Düsseldorf.

Parkschloss Dali is about 1 hour East of Dortmund.

The two main FKK centers in Germany are Frankfurt and Cologne/Düsseldorf.

Frankfurt has the 3 mega-clubs, which are just much larger than any other club in Germany.

Cologne/Düsseldorf is the traditional home of FKK's and where they started (Bernd's Schieferhof about 20 years ago). these clubs are smaller and a little more homey, they don't have multiple pools and whirlpools and such, they are usually just rebuilt houses and alot have 12-20 girls working. the pricing scheme is also different club to club, but in general the ones in Cologne Düsseldorf are a little cheaper, or at least extras or add on time is cheaper.

If you are planning a trip to FKK's stick to these two areas. If you have a week and enough cash (about 350€ a day = entrance fee (average 50) + 3 sessions daily (about 175) + rental car (50) + gas (25) + cheap motel (50)) then I would do one day each at Atlantis, Oase &World, then head up do a short stop at Fantasyland on the same day go to Babylon and stay somewhere their, then you can go to Happy Garden in the morning and at midnight when they close or when you think you've seen all the talent head to Wildenrath which on Friday and Saturday stays open until 4AM (I would spend more time at wildenrath, but that is just my prerogative) then you can sample some of the Red Carpet clubs to bring your average cost down, and then finishe off a night in Park Schloss Dali which closes at 5AM. From there you can head down the highway back towards Frankfurt and finish you final day ine whichever of the 3 frankfurt clubs was your favourite (on that day you could skip a hotel completely) and then catch a flight home. even if you are young you might want to invest in Viagra before that sort of schedule, but it is possible.



Best resource for research is Kaleus list http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de.vu/

Hope this helps

Peter

Peter,

Thank you very much for the great info. I really liked my Francfort tour last summer : nice girls, good attitude, superb clubs.
It seems that Germany has a lot to offer in terms of girls availability, competitive prices, clubs equipment and atmosphere. More than Netherlands to my opinion.
After Francfort, I was wondering if other regions of Germany could provide similar services. So your post is very much appreciated.
I am now planning a trip to the Köln/Düsseldorf area for December probably. My targets : the 3 clubs you mentionned, Parksauna Wildenrath, Planet Happy Garden and Tag und Nacht cafe.

Peter, do you have any suggestions regarding lodging in the area?
And one detail: how are the men dressed? Towels mandatory or can we bring our own bathrobe if clubs do not provide such clothe.

Thank you so much for the tips.

Dcool

Dcool,

Tag & Nacht is closed for the time being. PHG and Wildenrath can be done on the same day.

I have never looked for lodging, but I know that wildenrath has a deal with some hotel near by, and since they close later that would be the place to stay. Call them at +49 171 1556801, they can help you book something decent and clean and cheap.

In PHG and Wildenrath the dress code for men is the same. In both you get a big white bath robe. If that is too warm for you you can wear just a towel. You also get slippers. I have seen some guys who wear shorts underneath that, but it is not normal. the girls are mostly wearing lingerie or bathing suits, some are naked. don't woirry about what the other guys are wearing. If you are around 20 semi naked hotties and you are thinking about guys you ARE a HOMO!

Peter

Peter29

Great details, I'm looking forward to hitting a couple of other clubs after starting at Atlantis on my next trip. Are you sure World is only 30 minutes from Atlantis. When I mapped it out on map24.com from the center of town in Altenstadt, they said it was 140 kil., otherwise I would have tried it out.

HAving a second 30-minute block @ 25 Euros would be interesting, too bad Atlantis doesn't do that.

Again, thanks for the deatils and I hope we can hook up oin the furure.

Peter,

In FKK, believe me, I don't wear any shorts at all. I think that they fine you if you do
I have never been to clubs that are no FKK and was wondering if men usually keep their own clothes.
I am a Rio termas customer and I like the bathrobe more than towel. And I don't mind the heat...
So sad Tag und Nacht is closed. Then, I will concentrate on PHG and Wildentrath. Thanks for the tip about the hotel. That will be usefull too.
I think I might be in the area from December 6 to 9. Again, thank you so much.

Wallstreet : I confirm that FKK World is 30 mn from Atlantis. Maybe 20/25 km between the two clubs. I mean 30 mn if you find World right away, which is not the usual story...

Dcool

Sorry, I correct: World is about 40 km from Atlantis (easy to reach on A45 and then A5, after you have to find your way in the Pohlheim area). World is about 20 km from Oase (just ordinary roads no autobahn).

Peter,

I just saw that Babylon is also an option for me in the Köln area since T und N cafe is now closed.
I did not expect so many opportunities in Germany. That is great!!!!

I am attaching a map of the Holy Triangle of FKK's around Frankfurt. As you can see these clubs are not that far apart. From Atlantis to World and then from world to Oase is a grand total of 90KM.



Yes Dcool Babylon is also in the area. Actually if you take a 70 KM circle around Düsseldorf you probably have at least 40 FKK clubs and at least 10 that I have either been to or heard decent things about. Many are off and on and you have to have a good day. The best resource is Kaleu's page:

http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de.vu/

All the clubs with PLZ (like zip code) starting with 4 or 5 are basically in this area. Among the clubs within this area are. Cocoon, Planet Happy Garden, wildenrath, Babylon, Wiago, Dolce Vita, Tropicana, Orchidee, Penelope, Freudenbergstrasse 39, Schieferhof, Mondial, Heavensgate, arabella, Herne, etc.

But Babylon as third club in the area is also a good idea. I will put a map of that route in here too:



Hope that helps,

Peter

Very helpful info and nice pics. Thanks Peter. I must make a point of visiting Germany. I think they are very straightforeward and frank in dealing with the fucking at Frankfurt, hence Frankfuck. I like Bangcock too. Sorry, no disrespect, just a little asscrack, I mean wisecrack.

-Dick

Absolutely great, thank you so much Peter.
Will be coming from Paris on saturday 6 december up to monday 8.
Will report to CH.

BTW, Wildenrath returned immediatly my email and directed me to a nice and cheap hotel in the neighbourhood.
Very encouraging.
Dcool

Dcool,

I would love to join you on one of those days but my girlfriend is in town those days so I cannot get away.

Peter

No problem Peter, I know, we all have a weakness...I will convey your excuses to the girls...

See you an other time,
Dcool

Just a quick update on my list.

There is a new club called Goldentime on the same street as Wildenrath about 12km away. This club is excellent from both facilities as well as the calibre of girls. It is developing itself to one of the top clubs in Germany. Basically the ´Golden Triangle of Wildenrath, Goldentime and Planet Happy Garden has developed itself to the best triumvirate of clubs in Germany, surpassing what World, Oase and Atlantis used to be. These are not megaclubs, but they are excellent, and the service and the girls and the pricing are superior to what is offered in the frankfurt area.

I must also note that Atlantis is closed and will probably remain so forever!

Peter

another update

I am not sure if I mentioned it, but tlantis has been closed for years.

The best clubs in the Frankfurt area are probably Oase still #1, Palace in downtown #2 due to location in town, and World #3.

In the Köln/Düsseldorf area the top club is probably Goldentime, withe Bernd's Sauna being #2 if you are talking midweek (they re closed on weekends), and the bordello Traumparadies up there too. Happy Garden is not as good as it used ot be. Some people really like Livng Room, which is run by the same people as Goldentime. wildenrath has become a piece of crap. There is a club with really nice facilities called Villa Vertigo, but the talent level and the atmosphere isn't what it should be yet.

There is also a mega club in Berlin called Artemis, and a very good club in Augsburg called Colloseum.

In my opinion FKK's offer the ost reliable service and cleanliness and safety levels that I am aware of worldwide, and a significantly broader ethnic selection than in most other locales....

Peter29, scanning thru this thread it has prices listed from '03. Probably not the same prices today. If you know could you post some prices? Everyone talks about the Brazilians going to Europe to work, with the exchange rates I curious how much they really are making.

well, i was looking at the Artemis website- the mega brothel in Belin (which by the way looked like a fabulous facility-better than Solarium in Rio). It is 70 Euros for admission and 60 euros for a 30 minute session with a girl. Not cheap for Americans (that comes to almost 200 US Dollars). Perhaps its cheaper in other FKK's. I am thinking of going to europe but with the semi worthless dollar, expensive hotel rates and rates for women like these in Berlin and Prague, i am leaning towards staying in the US.

I've done the Frankfurt FKKs twice (See my reports)and they are worth visiting for sure. Even with the exchange rate as bad as it is for the $, if you ignore the hotel, car and food costs outside, the marginal cost of fucking a gal of only $80 is a bargain especially for a 1st or 2nd world girl.

However I do believe the quality of the experience, like many high volume places, is very mechanical. I would therefore take exception to the reliable service rating.

Termas in Rio are just as clean and safe, and provide almost uniformly great sessions where a garota that you will be with (counting outside time) for maybe 75 minutes will act convincingly like she longs to be your soul mate. The sex is incredible. However, it is no longer a bargain with not only a weak dollar but a strong real.

Actually, in a terma you get clean sheets and the waste baskets emptied out by a maid. In the FKKs you do it atop a clean bath towel.