Chapter 3 – Embracing my Safadoness

Waking up alone isn’t so bad after all. I get up and head out at my leisure. It’s nice not to have to wait for someone else to get ready.

I have exactly 30 centavos in my pocket so I head to Blockbuster for Reals. A friend told me once that I shouldn’t wear anything that identifies me as American, but there is no way I can blend in with these people. I stroll back to my apartment down Copa Ave with my MLB baseball cap and a milkshake from McDonalds.

I head to Luomo around 4:00. I wait for a while hoping to session with a little one I had been watching for a while. Finally I see her alone and motion for her to come to me. She has a tight little spinner body. I’m not saying any names because I might piss off some more boyfriends on this website again. She’s small, black hair, and a friend of Don’s. That’s all you need to know.

The place is very crowded and we end up having to wait about 30 minutes for a cabina. Once inside, I ask her for some photos but she said no. I can’t help but think that some of these girls are hesitant to allow photos because of the actions of some on this website and the other one. This would be the last time I would attempt any photos. Sorry guys. My girl wasn’t too pleased that I did another girl though. She sarcastically asked me later if so-and-so was good and if I liked her.

Later that night, I head to Terraco and spot some hombres at a table and sit for a while. I speak with BT for a while and the topic turns to this website. He notes that there really is no upside to posting. (Sorry Mr. Hombre) He should know after what happen to him. Yes, you get some notoriety and make some friends, but I suppose the latter will happen one way or the other. Anyway, as I said, I’ve learned my lesson about posting too many details and that is why my latest reports suffer.

I head into Help around 12:00 and stay for an hour. As always, I don’t get into the hunt in this place so again I leave alone. I stop by Terraco for a moment to see if I know anyone and spot Sweetmesquite. He tells me that someone is over at a table and was asking about me and points her out. I talk to her a minute and she says she is going into Help with some of her friends to “dance”. We plan to meet later at my apt.

I end up going back into Help to hang out with Sweet. After an hour or so, I walk around the place and spot my “girl” talking to a couple of guys in a group of girls. Dancing my ass. I look at her, whisper a fw unkind workds in her ear and walk on. While saying good-bye to Sweet near the stairs, she comes up and proclaims she is ready to leave and we head out.

She’s small, black hair, and a friend of Don’s.
Gee...let's see that describes about 80% of the garotas de programa in Rio.

The view out of the apartment window must be great during the Rio summer month's. What did you have to pay for it?

As a rule, you should never pay more than $50 for a one bedroom or studio in Copa. I wouldn't suspect that would apply in Jan and Feb though, but I have never been during that time. That particular apt will be my first choice when I go back although I am partial to Hotels after staying at the Mariott.

This is the first report on Brazil I have read in a while. It's excellent and very detailed and fun to read. Your comment about BT saying, "there is no upside to posting" is partyly true and partly not true. The only upside is your helping people discover valuable information. Someone might discover an unheard of place, a club that is not advertised, a great place to eat, or directions to the main part of the city. We were all rookies at one point in our lives. That is the only upside that I can think of.

I too had someone "stalking" me for a few months. That's why I posted for people I don't know to email me. I'm sure that might come across as arrogant but it's simply not. I'm one of the most easy going friendly guys you could meet but there is no upshot for me in making new friends with strangers I know nothing about.
Just be careful in how much you share about your life with a total stranger.

There are crazy dudes out there (including guys on this site). It's sad but that is a reality. Remember that not everyone is your friend and some people have bad intentions. Several guys wanted to hook up in Cuba and I have just not been motivated to meet new guys that I don't know.

Also, a note to the creeps that think they can hide behind their computers and stalk someone. There is ALWAYS a way to track you down. People think they are smart but there is always someone smarter out there. The guy that stalked me thought he was a big tough guy behind his hidden identity until I got him on the phone and knew where he lived. Then he wasn't so tough..... be careful out there amigos.

Well Godfather, I appreciate it, but I have to disagree... this is my second bad one in a row. However, if you liked this one, read my first two. They are the best. I left out a lot of stuff in this one. I learned my lesson about posting too much stuff because of what happened with my Sept report. I thought I went out of my way to hide identities with that one, but I had guys telling her and her friends about stuff I had written about them on the internet, saying I used their names (a lie), other guys on here asking one of the girls about stuff I put in the report that they shouldn't have never known about. Basically, it was my fault. I neglected to take into account the motives of some on this site, or their jealousy. As I said, I thought I had done a good job in concealing identities though. It was my mistake, but one I learned from. They can't hurt me anymore.... not that they did before.

Aldaron,

I'll have to go back and read the report. I didn't know what happened. Yeah, I stopped reading/writing on CH for a while. So much drama. CH is just like the general population. You'll have cool guys, successful guys, losers, total tools, guys that travel the world, and guys that never leave their hometown that are secretly spiteful towards those that get to see the world and experience these wonderful things.

Jealousy is one of the ugliest traits a person can have. It's fine to be envious of someone but no one needs to be jealous of anyone. Everyone keep having fun and seeing the world and experiencing new things. T-minus 6 days till Cuba and I can't wait! I just talked Seaman into going with me.

I have to agree with BT in his comments. There is no upside to posting or contributing prolifically other than perhaps just out of generosity or an ego boost. It is very nice for people to have information, and it is fun to read this stuff sometimes but if you are in a position where you want to visit a place often, or to actually live there, there is really only a downside to posting too much information.

I too had a stalker, a KidCisco minion who copied (and even altered) information from this board and emailed it to my family and employees. Godfather is right--it was easy to track the culprit down.

I thought I made this post already on this thread so if for some reason it shows up twice in slightly different forms--forgive me and attribute it to my advanced age.

I agree with BT's assessment that there isnt an upside to posting. It is great to have the information--and it was a help to me when I first discovered this site. But the only two motivations I can see to posting prolifically (without financial consideration) is an ego boost or an overwhelming need to perform public service. Persons can and will take information from this site and use it against you for a variety of motives. You should expect everything you do or say here to be read by the people you are discussing. It is not unlikely that someone will print the info or give them complete access.

One night I walked into my office and found two former garotas from a terma visiting. They were using a computer in my office and reading Clubhombre with an account name and password given to them on the street by a member of this board.

On another occasion, a KidCisco minion from this site copied (altered some info) and emailed posts from this site to my employees and family. As Godfather correctly pointed out, it was easy to catch the culprit. Having said that, everyone should be extremely careful.

Guys:

I couldn't agree more about being extremely careful on this site (or any other). Personally, I never give out my real name, address, email adress (I have a special email just for "illicit" activities), etc. Still, I manage to have fun, and I've freely discussed a lot of "personal" details here - just made sure that you can't track me down with anything I've written. And I've even met with, talked to, a few CH'ers. You get a feeling for who is "cool" or not after a whiel, and even my meetings have been at "neutral places", I just drop in, shoot the shit and then vamoose. You can be private even while being a nice guy, etc. Again, you just have to stay one step ahead of the game. Unfortunately, the bottomline is thqt just becuase a guy is a CH'er doesn't mean you should trust him (doesn't mean you should distrust him either though).

As for benefits of posting, their are plenty! Of course,it's an ego boost, let's admit it. And "locker-room" bull-sessions are always fun. But beyond that, I think we've all made some friends (and some enemies) on this board, In the end, it all balances out.

BS

P.S. KidCisco has MINIONS?? I need some minions! Aldaron, go fetch me some BRAINS.... Yesssss, master.....

(Message edited by badseed on December 11, 2003)

BS--you too have minions. I am one.

Wow. I didn't know other people were having problems like that. It's not as troubling for those that don't have a wife, kids, family that they are close to. They can still send things to your work which is embarrassing.

GCL. That is amazing that someone would give a girl a password to CH. Actually pretty stupid if you ask me because you can easily see who gave it to them.

There will always be assholes in this world (and probably on this site). Who knows why they do what they do. Just listen to everyone's advice. It might be totally fun to meet new guys but trust NO ONE. If people think I'm an ass for not meeting them I could care less. One dude found out I was going to Cuba and booked a trip thinking I'd show him the ropes there (even though I've never been there before). When it comes down to it.... what incentive do I have for hanging out with an older dude that has never traveled before (let alone Cuba), speaks NO Spanish that I know nothing about??? Exactly.

Anyway...have fun all.

Aldaron... CH needs guys like yourself to continue writing reports, not only for the informative value of the reports themselves, but at least for me, the interchange initiated by the reports among members is sometimes even more valuable and informative. For me the reports serve as an invaluable data on the current going-ons in places where I am planning to visit.

Remember, that we are here answering each others posts because of your report. Now I am aware that there are stalkers out there waiting to emabarass you, etc. Although, I do not consider this a problem because I work for myself, I like to monger alone, and one lesson I learned early on is to never kiss and tell. Fuck and tell, maybe.

Sad to hear about your bad experiences GF and GCL.

My reporting days are over.

Unfortunately, many of the girls in Rio have been given CH account information by members of this board, and they read the posts here regularly. One favorita of mine teased me about all the garotas I'd done on a prior trip, then she showed me a printout of my trip report. She took it pretty well, since she knew all along I was a safado dog, but she was clearly hurt a bit that I'd mentioned her without asking her permission.

That was my last "I did her, then did her at Terma X" trip report. I'll keep updating my Rio guide and posting useful information when it seems worthwhile, but my garota-reviewing days are over. I'll post pics if a garota gives me the OK to do so, but otherwise I have to agree with BT, GCL and Godfather...the upside is minimal and the downside is significant. So, if you want to talk about specific garotas, meet me in Rio in January!

OK

I agree that the interchange between guys sometimes contains more valuable information than reports themselves. (and is sometimes a lot funnier too).

Anyway, guys can continue to post I guess. It's a personal choice. Post or no post..I'm excited about my upcoming Cuba trip. I just extended another 5 days so I'll be there almost 3 weeks. I talked Seaman into coming too....this is gonna be great...

One upside... you get to win your membership money back.

Here's my whole deal...

Non-Rio guys can't understand "the network" among the girls, nor the sheer numbers of Rio lurkers on this website. I could go to Pataya Thailand and write volumes about girls and never encounter any problems off of here because it doesn't get as many hombres as Rio. Given the fact that Rio lurkers (and so-called boyfriends) on this website read your stuff, you have a serious disincentive to post about specific girls. It gets turned against you. I don't know a good answer to the phrase, "I know you wrote about me on the internet."

I had one prick come into my last report and ask... "why do you care? They're all whores."

I care because some of us like to experience Rio and it's women in other ways than roaming around like a dog in heat. If that is the kind of trip you want, have at it, but don't come in my report and criticize or condescend to me because I try to treat these girls like human beings rather than temporary sex slaves. Most of these girls have some of the lowest self esteem I have ever encountered in my life. There are some I don't want to disappoint. They've had enough disappointment in their lives.

Aldaron: You are absolutely right. Just treating these girls with respect already alters your experience in RIo in all the right ways. Part of that respect is how we treat them on this board (now that some blabbermouths have spread the word ad this board is as god as public). SO we're all probably better off leaving personal details out of these psots. Besides the blow-by-blow "first I fucked Amanda doggie style, then I fucked Beatrice up her ass, the Claudia blew me" reports get old fast. Reports about what we all did in RIo outside of the bed are a lot more interesting (but with plenty of garota pics!!!). And rating individual girls is definitely counter-productive. Hate to say it, but if you want to give a guy a hot tip about a hot girl, do it in private, that way she isn't "spoiled" by all the lurkers.

Funny thing though, there's a CH equivalent in Brazil called "sexdicas.com.br" where the guys freely discuss which girls are good or bad and their experiences. And the girls are welcome to chime in and very often log on, start tehir own threads, all kinds of discussions about what kind of client is best, wether clients and GP's cn ever marry, etc, etc. Somehow it all works out - of course, the board is all in portuguese, it's heavily moderated for assholes who get banned on sight, and it's mostly the Sao Paulo scene (no Rio girls log on), which is COMPLETELY different from Rio.

Anway, the key is to play it safe, and have fun!

GCL:

You are my minion? I'm so touched... sniff... now go buy me a caipirinha! ;-)

BS

Bwana,

I am curious about how girls in Rio read the reports here. I was under the impression that most working girls in Rio could not even speak English, let alone read it.

As for the issue about posting that everyone else is talking about, obviously it's a personsal choice. But if people stop sharing information, then websites such as this become pretty useless. The whole purpose of websites such as this and others like it is to share information. The upside to posting is that the more information everyone has, the more informed they will be and others might also be encouraged to post and contribute. The more information, the better - for everyone! It is quite unfortunate that some poeple have been burned or had the information they have posted used against them.

However, I feel that there is tons of information that people can contribute without giving out details of specific girls.

Hotel reviews, club reviews and locations, city information, location pricing, current events, etc all all good examples of information that can be quite valuable and should not be damaging to an individual who posts it.

I keep hearing about all the $R per minute places, yet no one seems willing to provide specific location and review information for any of these places, with the exception of (I believe) LAGuy. Why is that I wonder? What would be the harm in posting non garota information about those places?

Xen.... Most working girls in Rio know some "terma English". They can pick-up more than you think. They also know what their name looks like when it is spelled out. It doesn't take much to copy and paste the entire text of a report into a translator website to view it in fairly competent Portuguese. Keep in mind that they usually have some asshole off of this site there "helping" them.

A good rule of thumb is never trust anyone off this website. That may sound harsh considering I say in my Appendix that most guys on this website are cool guys, but I'm pretty much locked into my current core group of Hombre friends and I'm not interested in expanding it. I suspect there is an element that hangs in and around Alcazar on the fringes picking up information and pretending to be something they aren't. I have heard too many stories like the one Bwana told above. Then you have all of the Kidcrisco stuff that went on a few months ago that was actually a couple of guys with double screen names with an obvious vendetta against a certain Rio resident. I don't trust anyone I don't know in Rio unless somebody I know can vouch for them.

What!! KidCisco is not a 7foot tall all-American U.S. Navy SEAL?!?! I'm shocked and dismayed!

BS

Xenono...I actually have a lot of 1R$ place experience, and followed up on LAguys report--visited the places and found a few of my on. Here are a couple of tips...

Vanessa from Uruguaiana 24 (discovered by LAGuy) is a great girl. She has moved to a place at 333 Rua Buenos Aires. I havent visited yet but will do so and report on the place. They have been advertising heavily in the classifieds so am interested in seeing it.

Rua Buenos Aires 85 has a girl named Danielly on the 3rd floor who is cute and can deep throat anybody. I highly recommend her. There is a girl there also named Patricia (she moved from the 4th floor) who is as pretty as any girl at Centaurus, Luomo, or 4x4---I promise you she would be top tier at any of them. And you can have her for R$30. I recommend getting to these places before noon as they get jammed with Brazilians and if you get in early you get the clean sheets.

I will keep posting tidbits. I could write volumnes about these places. It has become my hobby to explore them.

Damn SOG, you are the man. My hats off to you buddy. Sheer genius. I hope to be like you one day.

Give Kidcisco some room here. He wants to become the man he wants to become.

OH

ps: KidCisco. We are looking forward to that larger person you so want to be.

(Message edited by otrohombre on December 11, 2003)

Some of my thoughts about the benefits and dangers of posting.

I think it all depends on what you are posting and the relationship you have with the garota(s) involved.

1. Posting general non-garota-specific information (addresses, prices, quality of girls and service level) should be harmless and is very valuable information.

2. Sharing information of a more specific character of a certain provider can also be safe provided you stick to just giving information of her work: fake-name, venue, attitude, completa or not, etcetera. It is free advertisement for the good ones and an encouragement to improve for the others. I think that is why the Brazilian GP-forum are working fine with even the girls logging-in and participating, because this exactly the type of information that is shared. Of course this is (even more?) valuable information. The YMMV factor could be important here though.

3. Things will be different when you get more involved with the girl(s) and you share all your stories here. This will never be appreciated by the garota if she finds out and you can get you in trouble. The value of these posting how entertaining they may be is also questionable from an informational point of view.

4. Picture posting is never safe and should be done ONLY with the permission of the garota.

So IMHO it’s clear than you can still post with little risk while providing the major part of the valuable information, if you stick to variant 1 and 2. But most trip-reports are a mix of all these varieties which makes things difficult.


(Message edited by coats001 on December 12, 2003)

SOG

When you advise getting to the $1Real places early to get the clean sheets, do you mean get there early in the month?

Once at such a dive casa, when I finished and pulled off the condom I asked the girl for a towel. She said they didn't have any and so I used the "sheet"...which she then used, after I finished wiping, to re-make the bed. Another romantic experience at a dive casa was the time I paid a small additional amount directly to the girl to finish in her mouth. As soon as I completed my orgasm, she jumped from the bed, ran to the window, and let fly a lugie of my splooge into the interior courtyard of the building. I wondered later if any of it landed on the clothes hung out to dry on the lower floors.

As to Danielly...she does do a good deepthroat...BUT, has a habit of stopping her BJ for some seconds after each such effort, to get her breath back I assume, but just long enough (for me) to erase the "benefit" of her abilities. For that I give her a "not recommended".

And to round out the stories, perhaps Scottch will relate for us as well, his experience with a girl from a dive terma he remembers (not so fondly I think) as DC (dumpster cunt).

On the other hand, if you don't mind sharing the banheiro with cockroaches, you can "save a buck or two".

Ain't love grand...

Coats:

I think you're right that the "open" Brazilian forum works becuase guys know how to keep things at the right level. Although honestly, it also has to do with the competitiveness of Rio. There are relatively few of us relatively rich gringos there,sothe girls have a vested interest in not seeing us wander off to other garotas (nto to mention that we are STUPID and tend to "fall in love" with one or two). THere are also relatively few garotas in the Termas were most of us go, and again, we tend to have favoritas. Sao Paulo on the other hand is HUGE. There will always be another girl, so the ones who are on the forum recognize it as a great way of being recognized - they even advertise discounts and contests for the guys on the forum (what an idea for CH - can you imaging Taiza logging into here and saying that the next 10 CH'ers get to fuck her get half price? Happens all the time on sexdicas...). Furhtermore there will always be another cleint, so the girls aren't all that possesive of any particular one. And, most important, Brazilians don't fall in love with GP's! (Well, almost never) Seriously, for the average Brazilian guy, goign to a boite/Terma/Suana/clube whatever and mongering is like an American guy going to a strip club and getting a lapdance. No big deal, a fun night "out with the boys". It's all about attitude.

SF and SOG:

Yeah, the cut-rate places can be pretty grim, but what the hell, when you're horny you're horny. I've tried various times to pull these girls out of the "inferninhos" to spend an afternoon or night at a decent (clean) motel, and pay them decent money. Never had any luck. Could be that they actually DO make a lot of money at the inferninho (little hell, generic name for the cheapo places), or oculd be that they face heavy fines/firing fi they leave with a client. Dunno. Any thoughts? Besides that I'm stupid to try to pay full price to a short-time girl....

BS

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the dive termas. Actually I've had success in pulling a girl out. It was the typical scenario where she gave me her cellphone number and came to my place another day. I suspect it was the big change from her normal work environment that explained the very superior service I got. Of course it could have been that I was just a much better lover than her other customers...but I doubt it. I know other mongers who have done the same thing as well.

Regarding posting trip reports with personal stuff, as I said, I've learned my lesson. I probably should have left about half of my second report out. After having pulled it for a while, I put it back up because in the end, nothing that is said on this site really matters and there is nothing in there that can really hurt me anymore.

In general though, I try to mix it up with relevent information and entertaining tales, including as many of my friends as possible along the way. I read some reports sometimes and a third of the way through it, my forehead slams into my monitor because I fell asleep. It's all been said about costs and where things are located, etc. Writing about your own personal experiences may not provide a lot informative stuff, but it sure wins you a lot of awards.

The comments about the dive termas are just too much for me to even comment on.....

This has been a very interesting thread. I think I have the solution. The Rio vets on this board could continue to post the logistical information that Xen and Coats suggest, with no risk to themselves. They're the experts and the best placed to give the most up-to-date info.

Now regarding the "personal" info of girls and how they were... this is where the Asian guys can help out. We could take a break from Asia, and make our cherry trip to Rio (or second, third...). Since we generally don't know any of the Rio guys beyond exchanges we've had on this board, we could post explicit reports about what we experienced with who. Then we slip back to Asia. No hard feelings, right?

Xenono-
I agree with you; there's lots of useful information that can be posted thta doesn't involve naming names. I try to put most of that in my Rio guide, and will try to update in regularly.

The girls may not "speak" English, but that doesn't mean that can't "comprehend" it. Most don't speak much because they're not comfortable doing so (just as many guys who understand some Portuguese avoid speaking it), but they understand a fair amount of what they hear, and reading is a much simpler skill than speaking or listening (once you get the basics down for the grapheme-to-phoneme relationship). And, of course, it's sometimes in the girls' interests to act dumb because that way they can listen in on our conversations about them.

SFHombre, I give Danielly a thumbs up. I think you are being a little harsh and perhaps applying an unfair standard to her. Consider that you paid R$30. How much would it take for you to deepthroat some guy?? I think in your case, it may take Centaurus pricing.

GCL- can you confirm this Danielly girls location for me and get her number..as it seems she might move around a bit...buy you the whole pie this time plus dinner in january...

nice reporting SOG..thanks...

Musasaki.. if you have never been to Rio, you must be wondering what all the fuss is about. You just have to go and experience it. There's a lot of good tips to be had reading and listening to some of the vets. For example, I was talking to SOG and GCL the other day and as always they gave me some good advice on the Rio scene. If I had to vote for one or the other for Hombre of the Year, it would be a tough choice.

Hey Aldaron, I have made a promise to Sandman that I will visit Rio some day. I really am looking forward to it, as I think I will have a blast. You are right in that it is a little difficult for me to comprehend some of the things discussed in this thread. I could spend 10 days in Bangkok, literally see a 1000 working girls a day, and not see the same girl the entire trip. I am so used to the huge scale of offerings in Asia that the intimacy of the scene in Rio is just something I'm not used to.

But I'm not a total stranger to the issue. I have read a lot of reports of the Rio regulars, and also the reports of Merlin, Xen, McDijj, and LAGuy, guys who are mostly Asian mongerers. I understand from them that the scene in Rio is different from what I'm used to, and a lot of the mongerers know each other, so there is more personal interaction. Combine this with far fewer working girls and far fewer venues, and one gets the potential for the situations described above. But mark my words, I will come down there and soak in the Rio experience. And hopefully some of the board members WILL speak to me at TA or a terma. LOL Well at least I'm pretty sure those bastards Sandman and DG will!

Mebbe I am being too harsh, but my standard isn't the price I pay but the satisfaction I get. My ideal is to pay $1R/minute for a programma that puts a smile on my face.

What makes a $1R real garota really worth it to me is not just that she's inexpensive, but that she provides the same or better service than a garota who charges much more. If she doesn't, well, then I'm disappointed no matter what I paid.

Do you have a different approach?

My approach is to be alive at the end of the sexual experience... and also 1 year later.

Lots of escorts girls are less than 1R$/min(100R/2h). And the all-nigthers are much less than
50 cents per minute.


(Message edited by coats001 on December 13, 2003)

Well I suppose programs are analogous to wines. Price is not an indicator of quality--by any stretch of the imagination. Part of the fun in drinking wine is finding the $12 bottle that tastes as good as Opus 1--or at least has some special qualities. Well not many High-end terma girls deep throat and Danielly does. Plus she is pretty. It is unfortunate that she has to breath occasionally, but I wont begrudge her a gulp of oxygen once in a while.

Layne, I will ask for her number next time I see her.

BTW--in the same terma is a mischievous little nymph named Patricia. She has is sort of an oaky color with a hint of cinammon and spice. She is very smooth, giving a velvety sensation. And a very crisp finish. Highly recommended.

I think the best fun is where price is never mentioned, she treats you like a king, is by your side like a true blue girl, rocks your world in the sack, and never questions the amount that is given to her to help with her car payments or other matters.

I love that situation, and many meetings in Rio, Sao Paulo, and BA have deloped into long term friendships because of it.

Enjoy the life gentelmen,

Moondog

SOG: I'm looking forward to your reporting on some of the R$1 per minute places, particularly those not covered in my report. I'm happy you agree about Vanessa and that I could help. She does move around quite a bit though so she may be difficult to keep track of. The R$1 places are clearly not for everyone, but for at least some of the more adventurous among us they have a lot to offer. There are clearly differences in the level of cleanliness at these places (or should I say dirtiness), and some are real dives, while others are not so bad. You can, however, find some mighty fine garotas at these places, such as Vanessa, IF you don't mind looking around and checking out a few places).

Murasaki: Its hard to say whether I am more an Asian mongerer or a Brazil mongerer: 3 trips to Thailand and 3 to Rio in the last two or three years which would seem to make me one of the few truly "objective" reporters here LOL; OTOH, my recent trip to Hong Kong and Macau (having some motivational problems getting a trip report together though) may have momentarily tipped the scales towards my being more of an Asian mongerer, but that is subject to change in the next few weeks.

Let's see.... filthy and disgusting apartments and beds... mostly dangerous areas ... questionable "business" owners and motives ... mostly skanky women ......

sounds like fun.


Sexual Addiction - to devote or surrender oneself to sexual activity habitually or obsessively.

Aldaron, with descriptions like that, Porker, Exploder and the rest of the Mexico mongers will start making travel plans to Rio this week! Those guys love the $15 putas and your description of skank, danger and shitty facilities matches every Boystown and Zona Roja I've ever been to in Mexico.

Aren't you glad you picked Rio for your first (and probably only) monger spot? If you had followed the usual learning curve you would still be working your way through Tijuana, or maybe Costa Rica or the Dominican by now. Rio would just be coming up on the radar screen at this point.

(Message edited by catocony on December 14, 2003)

I suppose it's whatever you get used to, but I'm still amazed at some of the stuff I read on here. I'm strictly a terma man at this point. That's about as far on the wild side that I want to venture into. That's just not the way I want to risk going out of this world, whether physically or biologically.