As is with all third world countries, there are some things to watch out for when traveling and staying in Angeles City. That’s not to say that you have to keep your guard up at all times in AC, but you just have to be aware of some scams by locals and some of the girls. I will also discuss what to do about tipping in AC and some tricks to help you have a stress free trip.

A. Scams:

1. Local Men: If any guy approaches you and acts like he knows you, ignore him immediately. He is trying to get you to play in a card game or trick you out of your money somehow. This is much more prevalent in Manila but there are still a few desperate hucksters out there trying to get you to join in a family card game. Only speak to the local men working at the hotel your staying at, the bars you frequent and the restaurants you eat in. You don’t need to be jaded or angry when local men are trying to be friendly, they are not all bad but just keep your wits about you. Most of the mongers are nice guys on this board and these men can smell this a mile away and will try to take advantage of such. Never get your shoes cleaned or shined by the local kids as they are all full of shit and will ask for 50 pisos but will then tell you its for one shoe or that coloring for the shoe is 200 pisos extra...fuck them, don’t give them business or you might see yourself surrounded by other locals trying to get your money.

2. Beggars: It’s a sad reality in every third world country that there are some people down on their luck and need help. I will always give a few pisos to anyone handicapped or extremely old. I know that the money might go to drugs or alcohol but so what. You should also tip the guy who is in a wheel chair near Trax Disco. He will salute you every time. He is old and mildly retarded and be a good soul and slide him a 20 or 50 piso note when you can. Avoid the women begging in front of Margarita Station or any of the exchange kiosks as they are scammers looking for drug money. They will give you a fake prescription or say they need money for their babies milk...it’s total bullshit. Hate to sound cynical and jaded but you have to use your judgment to pick and choose who to give money to.

3. Money Exchange: I have never had a problem being shorted money at an exchange booth except for Mexico. Be that as it may, always count your money in front of the person giving you your pisos as they might try to give themselves some extra commission. I have never had a problem but be cautious.

B. TRICKS-
. Bargirls: Unfortunately, the girls will give you the most problems with your trip if you let them. Realize that these girls understand that Western men are more kind and generous than the local men they have to deal with and these girls will normally try to use this to their advantage. I rarely have had problems with the working girls but know some who have and I may have just been lucky so far. When you arrive at your hotel with your girl, always empty your pockets of your pisos and put them in your safe. This is why in room safes are crucial to your trip. If you just place it on the counter or in your closet, they will watch your every move and you might be light in the pockets afterwards.
The other more common trick is girls that are runners. When you pay the 1,000 piso barfine, that means she must stay with you for the night. Make sure that this is very clear before you leave the bar. Always clarify that the girl is not a cherry girl and does not have menstruation. If you do not qualify this with the mamasan or manager, it might be your word against hers and she will always give a bullshit story. Many girls(about 50%) have local boyfriends, some have kids living with them and others live with their family. They may want to leave right after the first fuck, if you don’t qualify it with them earlier. It is imperative that you qualify with the girl whether she is a cherry girl that doesn’t fuck or whether she is on the rag and cant fuck. Many times girls give a bullshit story that they are cherry or have mens because they don’t want to be barfined at all or by you. Give them the benefit of the doubt first as many of the girls truly are cherry girls and they do work during mens. I have never had a runner in all my times but I think I have been labeled a babaero/Playboy and they know I want only short time sessions during the early evening and daytime hours. The problem you may have is that many of them don’t want to leave and want to stay the whole next day as your hotel is much nicer than their apartment. Just tell them you have to meet a friend or something and they will get the hint.

Once you leave Angeles, that is where the real scamming takes place. It’s a good idea to keep in touch with the girls for your next trip. These girls are genuinely sweet and are trained to please men since birth....BUT....they are also smart and have a lot of big time financial problems due to lazy family members and/or worthless boyfriends. They will start with the “I miss you” and “I love you” emails. Followed by countless requests for you to return back to the Philippines as soon as possible. The problem is that you may be one of many they are saying the same thing to. They’re smart. They know that we are not of the monogomous nature and they are trying to catch the big fish that will get them out of poverty. They are hedging their bets by having a plan B and C. I really cant blame them. After a few weeks, you might get some story about needing money for this or that. Don’t send it unless you can afford to lose it and don’t care. 5,000 pisos goes a long way in the Philippines but they know we think in terms of dollars and will ask for outrageous sums. Also realize that they have ruthless family members and boyfriends sometimes who put a lot of pressure on them to support their laziness and bad habits and know that they have some kano’s overseas with big hearts and bigger wallets. Don’t presume that someone else is writing their emails as almost all of the girls speak and write English, unlike their Thai counterparts whom just send form letters asking for money due to a broken motorbike or sick buffalo. If you like the girl and want to help her, by all means do so but don’t expect anything in return.

C. TIPS:

Everyone has their own definition what a good tip is for girls and other services. You should always tip 10-15% to your waitress at the bars and restaurant. The locals and local expats are cheap fucks who don’t tip much so be generous if the service is good. Always send a few pisos or so to guys that open the door for you and security guards. Always tip the DJ when you request certain songs. Tip the girls according to service and time. Short time sessions should be tipped about 200 pisos or less and long time sessions can be up to 500 pisos and should be a minimum of 500 if you fuck her at least 3 times. Only give them more than that if the session is mindboggling. They will never bitch about the tip but you don’t want to be labeled as a kuripot. I gave a girl a 150 piso tip for short time once as I had no change and she went ranting and raving to everyone about it. I boycott girls like that and tell everyone to stay away. Some girls will try to lead the newbies to believe that 1,000 piso tip is the norm.... bullshit. Japanese and Koreans may pay tips like that, you don’t have to. The exception to this is when the girl devotes a lot of extra time with you during the trip and you like her....give her an extra thousand or two when you leave. Don’t take advantage of girls who are giving their extra time with you away from the bar....don’t assume you don’t have to pay them and that you are getting away with payment.....give them money always and never less than 500 pisos if they are fucking you on their own time....they will never ask for it but you are obligated to do it, regardless of how cheap you are.

Re: tipping girls, it's 100% optional -- you shouldn't feel OBLIGATED to give anything, totally up to you if you want to be nice to Ms. Last Night. I am especially curious why anyone would tip Ms. Last Night unless you really had a good time or you plan to screw her again. 500 pesos TIP? 1000 pesos? What the hell for? To ease your guilty conscience for dumping them?

A girl ASKING for a tip for short time after you paid a full 1000 pesos barfine should be told to get the hell back to the bar so she can fuck somebody else since she's so into money.

While I disagree somewhat about being 'obligated' to paying a girl who comes over when she's not working, I do feel paying her at least 500 pesos (unless you had already discussed a lesser amount) is the right thing to do. 95% of them will be EXPECTING payment, though like Blazers says, they probably won't ask. I have been tempted to call girls bluffs about how much they like me, though, and seeing if stiffing them changes things. But in the end, 10 bucks ain't much to a big spending rich guy like me (haha!), the girl probably would really appreciate the money, and if it avoids any romantic hassles it's probably money well spent.

Re: tipping waitresses at restaurants, I tend to be a bit more generous than 10-15% if I am sitting at a table for some time and get decent service as food can be soooo cheap. 30-50 pesos tip for a sit down meal seems ridiculously cheap to me, but as Blazers says, it's more than the norm. 20 pesos tip for a bar tab seems like a lot to me in AC, I don't care how long I've been in the bar.

Are you saying you dont tip the girls after staying all night with you and you filled their every hole 3 fold. You are not obligated but its the right thing to do if they treat you well. You should rarely tip for short time, although a small amount for a trike is OK....I said up to 200 if the short time is semi-long time...like you fucked her for 4 hours during the day. I am not saying to tip her 1,000...I have never done that and only give 500 if the performance is excellent. My only comment about the thousand piso tip is at the end of the trip and the girl has spent a lot of her own time with you and just leave her with a small gift....it's $18 for god's sake. These girls are getting way spoiled though as I have heard a lot of girls recently starting to talk about 500 or 1,000 piso tip being the norm....that scares me because there are a lot of guys that are going to AC and are clueless about the rules and are giving these girls whatever they want. One girl told me that she always gets 1,000 piso tip. I told her she was full of shit but she told me that guys tip that now....all the other girls shook their head up and down.....that would be really shitty if that were true. Giving them a 1,000 piso tip for a long or short time is idiotic....might as well go to Thailand where the girls are better looking.

As you know, I personally spent most of my nights with two girls in particular and they were apparently pretty happy with the compensation plan -- Flaca especially ended up making out pretty well as we seemed to end up going shopping a lot. But no, technically I never 'tipped' either one of them intentionally (I did give AG a HUGE tip one day by mistake).

If I had one I was certain I was going to dump there's no way I'd tip more than 50-100, and that's only if I had to ask her to leave when I wanted her to go, not if she asked to leave at any point -- I don't care how many times she got me off or how many holes she gave up. Of course all the ones I wanted to dump didn't get kept more than an hour so they didn't get tipped.

The bottom line: Tipping is up to you -- if it makes you feel good to do it, then go right ahead. But in my experience, many girls are so happy just to get barfined that they could really care less. Of course I never even considered barfining a high volume Blue Nile girl, so YMMV.

You didn't mention if you tipped the girls who stayed overnight and you fucked them silly. If you tipped them 50-100 pisos or not at all and they did a good job, that would be borderline criminal if they stayed the night with you....especially if you didnt even give them trike money. If you read my post closely, you know I am tip the norma scale or a bit low to others but what your preaching is not right...that is if I am reading you correctly to say that you do not tip.....Fuck, even the cheap ass expats will give them 100 pisos after an allnighter.

If I remember correctly I tipped all-night girl #1 from DMZ 300 because it was urgent that she leave IMMEDIATELY because AG was waiting outside in the lobby. I kept DMZ girl again a couple days later and gave her 200, I believe, because again, I wanted her to leave and felt guilty because she wanted to stay. Bananitas Girl was given 100 pesos in the morning as again, I liked her and felt bad about kicking her out.

The rest of my overnights were spent with Flaca and AG and I never tipped them a cent in the morning unless they had snuck out the night before, and then all AG got was 5-700 for all night. Their tip was getting barfined again the next night, and believe me, they would get extremely upset if I went a night without seeing them. So let's see, if I was happy with the arrangement, and the GIRL was happy with the arrangement, I'm supposed to tip so that BLAZERS is happy with the arrangement? Sorry... The girls I was with were ecstatic to be spending the night getting wined, dined, watching cable TV and sleeping on a comfortable mattress in air-conditioned comfort. Perhaps YOU should seek out such girls instead of the high volume Blue Nile princesses?

As far as giving them trike fare, they all take jeeps anyway, and they cost 5 frickin' pesos. I did have the cunt from Cambodia browbeat me into giving her 50 one night when I kicked her out saying she was totally broke and needed trike fare. Bullshit, and I feel like a dunce for giving it to her.

Tipping up to 500 pesos is silly, IMO. The deal is 1000 for all night, and they all know that. If the girl wants to stay with you and get barfined again, she knows the deal and knows that she had better treat you well or there will be 20 more clamoring to replace her the next night. I hope you are being consistent, Blazers and giving lavish tips to the Thai girls that cost, on average, twice as much as the AC girls for no apparent reason. Or is it somehow different because you negotiate their comp. plan ahead of time? Well, the mamasans and bar owners have negotiated the AC girls' comp plans ahead of time for you. They know the deal, and a tip is totally up to YOU, not ME, and not Blazers, and most certainly not the girls or expats or whoever.

Tipping a little is normal, not tipping them at all is just plain cheap. Using the "I shouldn't feel obligated" excuse is just that, an excuse not to tip. Remember, they only get 500 pisos of that 1,000 pisos. You think they were totally happy with that arrangement but I would love to see their conversations when you are not around. That's not to say they were not happy, but you dont really know.

Dude, IT'S 'UP TO YOU'. PERIOD. There's no 'normal', and no 'excuses'. You do whatever you feel like doing. They have been paid for their services before they leave the bar. Just because Blazers says that they 'deserve' more doesn't make it true. That 500 pesos is more than a week's pay for many people not sucking dicks for a living in the Philippines, and if your girl isn't happy about getting 'only' 500 pesos, there are 100 others who would gladly take her place in line.

And one other thing about them being happy with the arrangement: If they WEREN'T, why were they so frickin' happy every time they got barfined after they got 'stiffed' the time before? Please answer.

Oh, and one MORE thing, if they truly WEREN'T happy, would it really frickin' matter, since they completely fooled me when they ACTED LIKE THEY WERE???

Tip or not tip. I think it the same rules apply to any service industry--Good service should be rewarded, so-so or bad service should not. It rewards performance and encourages it in the long run. I never throw a 1000 piso tip at anyone, but I do give a couple hundred peso's, fare home, and perhaps an eat before they depart. If I'm not all that thrilled with em, I send em on their merry way by opening the door for them.

Don,

Very well said... If you feel like the girl deserves a tip then give it. If she sucked (no pun intended) then don't.

Porker,

Watch your blood pressure buddy. You're head’s about to pop off. You are right however, and Blazers: You're off the mark on this one.

...(prog)

I agree that you shouldn't tip for bad service Prog...I never said that BUT Porker was alluding to the fact that tipping should never even be in the eqation, regardless of the service and I believe that is wrong....good service should be rewarded. Remember, I started the Paragraph by saying that tipping should be according to service and time share. If you are fucking a girl silly all night, then she should get rewarded in my book unless it is a grudge fuck and she was a bitch. If the girl has an attitude , she should never be rewarded as such....Maybe I should have phrased the sentence a little better.

When the hell did I say that? Blazers, repeat after me re: tipping: "IT'S UP TO YOU!"

Blazers - we are in agreement... tip for good service and don't tip if it was bad (although bad service seems to be the exception in Angeles City IMHO).

...(prog)

Tipping is certainly up to you. Anyone with a little class would tip something. The only way I wouldn't tip a girl was if she totally sucked or broke agreement. Think about it, in any service industry it is something that the server works for. Now, you think the little pinay that played with your little pudgy dick all night isn't expecting a little something. What goes round comes round....in one way or another. Hmmm...no offense but maybe your screen name should be Fat Bastard.

Why not 'noclassfatbastard'. And we can call you 'judgementalcocksucker'. Sound good?

AmericanGypsy

Tipping is something I do IF a girl does what I want her to do, how I want her to do it and for however LONG I want her to do it!!

Short Time: If I BF a girl in AC, she's ALREADY made 500P out of the deal. If she comes back to my room and SHE decides it's going to be ST she leaves w/o a tip. If I decide it's going to be ST and we have a good time she is going to leave w/o a tip. If she stays ST and sparks fly out of my ass because the boom boom is THAT GOOD then SHE GETS A TIP!!

I've only tipped 2 girls for ST in the Philippines IN MY LIFE!! Both girls were completely remarkable and deserved the wad of pisos I dropped in their fists.

Long Time: If a girl stays with me and gets up in the morning and suddenly announces she has hygiene check, then she leaves w/o a tip. If she leaves before our prearranged departure time and I did not want her to go she does not get a tip. If she sticks around until our prearranged departure time AND was reasonably accomodating then I will give her a tip. If she sticks around until the prearranged departure time or I let her go early and I had an AMAZING time with her I will throw the nearest handful of money at her hoping she jumps me when I come back to see her!!

While this may seem to paint a grim picture for most readers, realize I tend to keep girls ST. If they stay LT, they tend to be previous ST girls and they know because they stay longer that I will treat them right. Hell, if I give them NOTHING but a nice place to sleep and 2 free meals they could not afford otherwise I've just tipped MORE THEN 500P!! Do not overlook the wonderful reward that is free food...

How much do you tip beerbar girls in Pattaya for ST? I give a beerbar girl 500B because that's the amount expected. If she goes above and beyond the call of duty then and ONLY then will consider thowing some gravy on top of it!! When you consider how far 500B vs 500P will go in their respective countries you then understand the Pinay is actually being paid MORE then the Thai lady!!

Many may call me, and other likeminded lads, cheap bastards (and you may be right). I do not know your experiences in the PI as your profile shows you're account is just over a month old so I cannot comment on anything you've said/done. Personally, I spent over 80 days in Angeles City last year and I'm welcomed back by everyone when I walk back into the bars.

E

Epi, I got into a near flame war on AC2 because I defended paying a full barfine and dumping the girl after a one cum short time. The old guard cheap fuckers there had me painted almost like a Japanese wannabe -- people like ME were ruining the price structure. And then here I'm some kind of lowlife because I think 500 pesos is perfectly acceptable compensation for a AC barfine that I already paid to the bar and that a tip is completely OPTIONAL. As you mention, I didn't see too many girls running for the bus station when they found out I had returned to town... Funny how that works, huh?

Hey Porker,
Just ribbing you, I got a good laugh out of the noclassfatbastard and judgemental cocksucker. Read some of your reports, good work...thanks
RK

God, if the AC regulars are giving Porker a hard a time about stuff like that, THEY MUST REALLY BE CHEAP! Porker is one of the cheapest people I know and I've never even met the guy. LOL.

Guess I better not post there. What are they going to think when I pay 1000 pesos each to do three short times in one night?

Xen
I'm in the same boat as you. I have a soft heart and a fat wallet. I end up feeling sorry for too many of these girls and usually end up overpaying. I will have to make a definite effort to hold the line on prices. Paying for everything upfront in the bar will help I'm sure. Epi will probably keep me in line as well.
I'm counting the slowly passing days until we arrive !! If I am ever given 2 months to live I hope the days pass this fuckin slow !!!!

KM,

I guess I should clarify. I was referring to how ballistic the AC2'ers would go if they knew I planned on BF'ing three girls in one night and then letting them go after short time without keeping them all night long. I wasn’t necessarily talking about giving them each a 1000 peso teep each.

I firmly believe in paying the going rate but don't have a problem tipping for good or excellent service. What I absolutely CANNOT stand is paying or being charged MORE than the going rate simply because I am an American/Newbie/White/Tourist/insert whatever here. This applies to anything from taxis, ladies, hotels, whatever. I also hate being asked for a teep for sub par or bad performance, or by someone just doing their “job” (non working girl related) because they know that I come from a tipping culture and want free money. I believe that a teep is earned and it is not an entitlement. If someone has to ask for one, then they don’t deserve it.

I also hate being shaken down by crooked cops.

Sometimes when I am not the mood to negotiate, I can often accept first offers and avoid hassles. I don't consider myself cheap, but I don't have money to throw around either so I hope I draw the line at a happy medium!

Xen, as Blazers points out a lot, the local expats in AC are some of the cheapest people on the planet, and often have to be to survive on skimpy pensions. In my SLIGHT defense, I'm not dyed in the wool cheap, but rather EXTREMELY POOR! As I'm also usually rather extremely HORNY and completely addicted to bargirls, that takes more than a little thriftiness to make things work sometimes in my twisted addict's little world, and often a cost per bang ratio is employed when for many that's not really a factor.

The thing that the people on that other board were up in arms about was the trend towards girls assuming they can get away with short times at the tradtional long time prices and now often trying to make the deal 'short time only'. I tend to agree with them that this is a negative trend, and SURE I wish the Fields bars had a lower short time barfine like Santos and Perimeter Bars do. But they DON'T, and I think the looks on Fields are worth the premium, so I found myself paying the full 1000 for short times on several occasions.

I ended up doing this out of convenience as I got tired of trying to arrange sneak outs and afternoon short times with girls who would end up flaking and one got PISSED I was only offering her the 500 she'd normally get from a full LT barfine. She was a little retarded, but still, waiting around for bars to open and for barGIRLS to wake up ended up being a severe waste of my precious vacation time.

Xen and KM, I would encourage you to barfine HALF A DOZEN girls a day/night and pay whatever it takes to have a good time, which SHOULD only be the 1000 pesos barfine. A great thing about AC is that if you pay the barfine and tell the girl to wait for you until a certain time or to show up at your room at a certain time, they usually do it. If you DON'T pay the barfine, you're taking your chances.

As far as my personal tipping practices in AC go, they are all over the map (well, within reason, I've never consciously tipped more than 300), but I STILL insist that every girl knows the deal ahead of time, just like you NEGOTIATE ahead of time in Thailand, except in AC the deal is made for you and you pay the girl's share directly to the bar. As Epi mentions, are you guys negotiating a price for ST or LT in Thailand and then throwing in bonus money on top of that purely out of the goodness of your heart? If you ARE, fine, it's your money and you can do what you want, but to just ASSUME that you HAVE to tip a girl in AC because you didn't set the fee with her and the house did is just bullshit.

I wholeheartedly agree that it is NICE to tip them if they took care of you and had a good attitude and that there certainly ain't too many bargirls in AC living high on the hog (to coin a phrase!). But like Epi says, I rarely tip for short time, I didn't tip the 'wives' each morning but did dole out some in-kind benefits, plus the near steady barfines are a girl's wet dream. The other random long time girls usually got a couple hundred or so tip to go away at my convenience.

The bottom line for everyone is to spend their money whatever way they choose to. I just have a real problem when people say that you are REQUIRED to tip a girl. That's BULLSHIT. Tip her if you want to, spoil her rotten if you want (and good for YOU for doing it!), but always keep in mind that she's already been paid, and if she wasn't happy with that arrangement she wouldn't have agreed to go with you.

AmGypsy, don't worry, I have a thick skin.

Something I have never really discussed is tipping for ST girls. I follow the exact same philosophy as Epi. I almost never tip short time....very little effort involved with the girl. If the girl asks for an extra tip on top of the prearranged barfine then she for sure will not get a tip, especially if its short time. With long time girls, I almost always tip them because I have the girls stay with me only if I like them. If I smell even a small scent of attitude, they are out the door. The amount of tip for LT in AC varies widely depending on the girl...anywhere from 100-500 pisos. I dont ask for anal sex and the AC girls rarely give BJ's so they dont have to do much to please me.
I only ask that there pussy is clean...if its not, they get penalized and no tip. Sometimes the pussy may smell clean until you get to bizness and then the cobwebs resurface. I would say the average LT girl for me gets 300 pisos in AC because 90% of my girls are ST. If the girl does a sneak out then she doesnt deserve more than 500 pisos, especially considering its usually ST. Lately the AC girls are getting more assy about asking for tips because some guys are giving them 1,000 piso tips for short time sessions because they think they are high rollers. I usually pay too high for the absolute stunners in THailand because they have me under their spell, but only for LT's. I will tell you if my philosophy still works this week as I leave tomorrow.

I was only in AC for a week for my only trip so I have little experience, but here is how I thought....... At first I was confused that ST girls barfine was the same as LT girls BF. It seemed LT required much more effort and deserved more reward....... Therefore I never tipped ST girls because I figured that receiving the same payment as LT girls was tip enough. But for LT I usually tipped 500P (OK I was "married" to the same LT girl the whole week and she did me right so I tipped her well but I didn't tip any of the ST girls at all because I figured they were well compensated already)

Hate to say it but if the girls are regularly getting 1000P tips now, then too many big spenders with deep pockets are showing up in AC lately, because all during the 90's they never expected anything in the morning, yeah, maybe a trike fee of 30P though, never ever more than that.

Bingo, thank the influx of Asian tourists for that.

Two other scams I would like to add that I became familiar with lately. These scams are coming from the bar managers and mamasans. Too bad that the people who should be on our side are really just as bad as the girls themselves.

1. Steady Barfine: If you plan on staying with the girl for a month or so in the PI, the a steady barfine is a good idea as you can pay for a month for 20,000 pisos or so...discount for buying in bulk. The scam comes to when the girl decides to quit the bar yet the bar asks her to pay a steady barfine. This is utter bullshit. If she wants to quit, she quits. Don't let those fuckers try to bully you into paying anything. If she wants to quit for your sake then you should probably help support her or she will have to return to work. If you choose not to pay the barfine then it's likely she will not be able to return to that bar or other bars that the owner may have an interest in. There are plenty of bars, she will find work.

2. Cherry Fees: I am not talking about a situation where you want to purchase a girl's cherry and you negotiate a sum up front. That's an inflated barfine that the Koreans like to pay as they have some sort of massochistic streak in them. I am talking about girls who decide to give up their cherry because they like you or trust you or whatever. Make sure you clarify everything with her before she decides to give it up (ie. that the cherry is actually free, that she is sober, etc.). Once that is established, you owe the bar nothing after you break her cherry. If you decide you want to give the girl some extra cash and pull her away from the bar, that's your decision but cherry fees should never be paid because the mamasan and the papasan get the biggest chunk of the fee which is criminal in my book. You have to be really careful about this because many bar managers are fuckheads and will try to get the police involved and make up some story that you owe a debt to the bar.

In general, I would say avoid breaking cherries if you can. I am drawn to sweet, innocent girls and they are drawn to me so meeting cherries has been pretty common. These girls don't necessarily want to sell their cherry and most don't. It's more common than you think. After breaking my gf's cherry, I was barhopping around Fields and had a cherry girl from Roadhouse(who I am friends with) actually bring me outside to tell me that she wants me to break her cherry because she trusts that I will be gentle and doesn't want to sell it. I declined and told her to save it for an American boyfriend and never give it up to a Filipino. I just dont want the responsiblity involved.

One last thing. Many of the girls are not really cherry. The only way to tell is to look at the license around their neck and the number on the top of the license must start with the letter "V". This cannot be done with fraudulent documents as this is the license number they use for their hygiene checkups and the cherry girls all go at the same time. The gynecologist will know if the cherry has been broken. Not uncommon to see mamasans loitering around the hygiene place to talk to the Dr. to see if any of her girls have had broken cherries and not telling her.....she needs her cherry fees.

Blazers, this post was absolutely fascinating. Who would have guessed that something like a cherry would be such an elaborate deal involving so many people all trying to get their fingers into the pie? Could you imagine some feminazi group reading your post and what their reactions would be? Haha.