By Merlin on Sunday, December 28, 2003 - 07:08 pm: Edit |
Of all the things, I actually got into a great discussion with an expat teacher from LOS, on a visa run, at Sharkeys yesterday regarding market supply and Econ 101. We agreed that the supply and price is waaayyy out of whack for us Americans in Cambo. I told him that the abundance of pussy at such artificially low prices (for us) is making me act in ways similar to one losing his mind and his economic bearings -- i.e. gorging on sex at the exclusion of sleep and eating. Now, with LOS pricing at 1500 baht short time, this tends to make me act more civilized and tempered. I never imagined too much sex being bad or dangerous, but I’m physically exhausted from the literally non-stop supply of cheap available pussy. Honestly, if you can believe this, I had 4 foursomes in a 20 hour period yesterday at different houses for the same price as one superstar at a LOS massage; a new daily record for me, and, embarrassingly, I could only pop a nut in two of those sessions. God I wish I was 18 y.o. again. I’m beginning to feel like the parakeet that I killed when I was a kid, no one told me that the parakeet will keep gorging itself to death if you leave the whole damn birdfeed bag in the birdcage. Death by fornication – this is how I’ll make my exit from this world when my time comes.
The other thought about Econ 101 is that the market pressures are very strong at PP and Svay Pak to ensure that it will remain alive and kicking. The NGO's don't know what their up against here. Even my driver, as well as the expat teacher, was surprised to see so many “new” p4p venues that spring up as some others are getting shutdown. Moreover, the shithole SVAY PAK village protects this “Golden Goose” in more ways than you can imagine. Suffice it to say that the restaurant owners, the street vendors, the mamasans, the girls, touts are doing anything and everything to keep this luractive place alive. There is also a huge market incentive for the cops to keep this place open as well for obvious reasons relating to lining their pockets.
Anyway, a stream of concsiousness thing caused by me losing my economic bearings. Because PP was so incredibly good, I was thinking about bypassing Snookyville. But Sancho was good about encouraging me to check it out. So I did for two nights.
PP TO SIHANOUKVILLE (SNOOKYVILLE).
The Road Trip from PP to Sihanoukville (SV) wasn’t as bad as the trip from SR to PP, it took about 3 hours on nice roads. There were still half-crazed drivers and a bunch of obstacles, but the scenery was good and it went by very quickly.
SV is actually a smallish beachtown with limited access by road or by sea. It’s still run down and there are no street lights at night, so it’s a bit dangerous to walk around due to traffic and obstacles after dark. The darkened streets also means being more alert for muggings I suppose, which is what I’ve been hearing happened a few times.
There are a couple of decent foreigner hangouts to grab some beers and to gather intel like the Fishermen’s den (no girls) and Angkor Arms restaurant. A bunch of Euro expats (some w/ grizzled tattoo looks) mixed in with some tourists. Decent food, but no girls. At Angkor Arms, the service was lousy, but the food is on par with any western food joint. Both these places are owned by Aussies I believe.
The first thing you notice about SV is the wide open and relaxed p4p scene here. The girls actually sit outside of their respective houses on plastic chairs and actually wave at you as you pass or run up to your car. Absolutely no fear of the police here. There appears to be 3 or 4 main areas for p4p, described as follows:
BLUE MOUNTAIN
This is up a hill, in town near the bus station, that posters have been writing about. There are about 10 “mamasan” houses up a dirt alley with 3 of them being bigger houses near the back of the alley with 15 or more girls. The houses and rooms are nice and there are some lookers here and there. The girls are VN at the bigger houses in back and the charge is $5 short time and $20 LT. The girls at Blue Mountain were actually the best of the venues that I checked out. Here is a photo of a girl out of BLUE Mountain, a VN girl 22 y.o. As you can see, the girls are better fed here and appear to be a bit older looking than the girls in PP, so no worries that you are accidentally taking an underaged girl.
Photos: VN 01 VN 02
BIBA DISCO
This disco actually caters to the locals and it’s a typical Cambo disco with a co-ed band just pumping away at the music (blaring actually) all night. Very few foreigners when I went the two nights. There are working girls here and they have a funny way of presenting the girls to you. The mamasan would patrol the sitting area with a photo album with girls all dolled up in “glamour shot” photos. You pick the girl out of the photo and the mamasan retrieves a girl who looks nothing like the glamour shot, obviously. There are short time rooms in the back for $2.50 (which was waived both times I went b/c it was so slow), and the girls charge $5 short time and $20 LT. Didn’t care too much for BIBA because its very loud and not as many girls as I was expecting, maybe because I went on a Sunday night and monday.
Here are some pics of a BIBA “glamour shot” girl who actually looked better in real life. Actually popped a nut with this one because she was unbelievably tight.
Photos: Biba 01 Biba 02
BROTHELS SURROUNDING BIBA, aka Phontamay near the port area
There are about 50 or more mamasan houses here that were more shoddy looking than Blue Mountain. Each house, or shack really, had about 5 girls. $5 ST and $20LT. The girls were not as good looking here and I actually saw a lot of fat Khmer girls. Many houses had red lights and the girls sat out front in plastic chairs. Here are photos of a girl taken from this area.
Photos: Biba Brothels 01 Biba Brothels 02 Biba Brothels 03
NEW VILLAGE
For some reason, there is one big mamasan house with about 20-30 girls off by itself. Same pricing structure, but some real cutie Viet Girls there.
PHONTAMEI (IN KHMER) OR CHICKENVILLE
Chicken village is a real shit-hole, go there in the afternoon and early evening, it would be spooky to go after dark. It's about 15-20 minute drive out of town. Mostly country girls here with few lookers, but found myself a few to sample anyways. Very pleasant demeanor with the girls here for some reason.
MASSAGES
As for daytime activity, there are scores of massages lining the main street and other streets. There are girls here for $4 massage and $4-$10 boom boom (depending on negotiation). Most massages had about 5 girls, with a few having 10 or more. Not a lot of lookers here either. Rose massage at the bus station had a couple of lookers and about 10 girls.
There are some girls cruising the dock area near Fishermen den, but nothing you would want to stick you dick into. Marlin Hotel: Look for the girls without waitress uniforms, the waitresses
are "sometimes" for take out.
SV HOTEL: KING GOLD HOTEL
My original choice, the Holiday Palace Hotel only had their most expensive rooms left because of the upcoming new years so I decided to stay at the King Gold Hotel. Being in Cambodia made me think that anything over $15 was a ripoff now, even though I was paying $57/day at the Grand Presidente in BKK over a week ago. The King Mountain Hotel is tolerable, some things are in disrepair. But more importantly, the price is good at $15.00 for 2 beds and it’s clean with no roaches or moldy smell, and it’s in the middle of everything, restaurants, internet, etc. I think you may also want to check out Sancho’s rec. re: Holiday, which is a nicer hotel, but a wee bit far from the main road of city. Here’s a pic of the hotel.
King gold Hotel Tel. 855 12 815 708 or 855 34-933 829 (fax/phone)
By Mcdijj on Sunday, December 28, 2003 - 08:36 pm: Edit |
I hope that you have arranged for a few days in Bangkok or someplace to taper off. You aren't going to try and go back to the real world "cold turkey" are you?
By I_am_sancho on Sunday, December 28, 2003 - 10:14 pm: Edit |
Is "new village" the same as Rose Massage? The description "one big mamasan house with about 20-30 girls off by itself" fits.
By Merlin on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 02:18 am: Edit |
McDijj, I've got four days of gradual re-acclimination in BKK to unwind and do some reality testing. I'm sure you and others will realize that we're forever changed by this Cambo experience re: p4p destinations. I won't be able to see the fees and costs in LOS as a bargain anymore, even though LOS runs circles around other venues.
SANCHO. I can't tell if it's the same Rose Massage, but there is actually one big Viet house off this very bad road called "OBY", about 5 minutes from the chicken ranch area (heading out of town) and the market. Very big house/complex with nice rooms having the signs "No condom no sex". My driver called it "New village" but the map said "Oby or Obi". About 15 VN girls in the afternoon and about 20+ at nights. A few very cute ones there, but the mamasan is very agressive in trying to get $10. Worth a look.
By I_am_sancho on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 12:38 pm: Edit |
Different place then. Rose Massage was more towards downtown but was alone and separate from Blue Mountain area. It was a single large Vietnamese house. There were also several Vietnamese houses around the corner from the main drag of Chicken Village, where you make a left and go down the road almost to the end but they were neither big houses and the rooms were as bad as any in the mainly Khmer houses in Chicken Village. I took a couple of really nice Vietnamese girls from there but I don't think that is the same as "New village" you describe. I guess I missed that one.
BTW I was out nightly in Chicken Village until 2:00am. Extreme vigilance is called for but it seemed passably safe so long as you watched yourself and spent most of your time in the brothels. The motodops were visibly nervous driving between Chicken Village and downtown late at night and they took alternate routes from daytime to avoid certain road. It was clear to me the open areas between different parts of the city was not safe at all late at night.
By AndresB on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 04:24 pm: Edit |
I was a bid dissapointed with the girl from Biba Brothels above. She looks skinny and in need of food. I would have felt guilty doing her, all the time thinking about their need to do this for a living.
By Merlin on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 05:57 pm: Edit |
Sancho, I checked out Susie Massage and it is different from the "Oby" house. Susie's had a good selection, about 10 VN girls, but the girls were pushy with the $10 so I left. The "oby" place was actually on the same dirt road but going opposite (past mkt) area and about 5 minutes more, on the right side. Seems like the locals call it more "Oby" than new village. This is a huge house with some real cuties, you should check it out next time.
Andres, I Know, I have no shame. I actually think that Í did the Biba girl a favor as there were at least 10 competing for my attention, kinda slow w/ few customers. In fact, with the $5 and $3 tip, she can feast for a month. She was the most animated and gave excellent BBBJ. The Biba girl was actually very healthy looking in real life and was wearing some nice clothes and lots of makeup; she certainly wasn't poor. There really aren't alot of starving cambodians anymore.
By Merlin on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 06:13 pm: Edit |
Sancho, Snookyville is a bit more spooky b/c its so damn dark for certain stretches of the road, especially along that road that leads to the very nice hotels, including holiday palace. A lot of the guests in my hotel (rich Khmers from PP) did not venture out at nights and partied in the hotel or in the restaurants. Also, some motodop guys look kinda creepier than in PP or SR. I should also let you know that both nights that I was cruisng, they had periodic police checkpoints near chicken ranch and entrance to Biba brothel areas. Cops w/ Ak-47s were checking motodops for guns, but not the cars. Apparently, guys are easier targets on motos than in cars, from what my driver tells me. Guys should be careful here at nights if they use motos as there were recent robberies, along the darkened road leading up from town to Biba brothel areas. But I never felt threatened and it's wide open p4p here so the risks do not outweigh the good.
By Merlin on Monday, December 29, 2003 - 06:16 pm: Edit |
Sancho, Snookyville is a bit more spooky b/c its so damn dark for certain stretches of the road, especially along that road that leads to the very nice hotels, including holiday palace. A lot of the guests in my hotel (rich Khmers from PP) did not venture out at nights and partied in the hotel or in the restaurants. Also, some motodop guys look kinda creepier than in PP or SR. I should also let you know that both nights that I was cruisng, they had periodic police checkpoints near chicken ranch and entrance to Biba brothel areas. Cops w/ Ak-47s were checking motodops for guns, but not the cars. Apparently, guys are easier targets on motos than in cars, from what my driver tells me. Guys should be careful here at nights if they use motos as there were recent robberies, along the darkened road leading up from town to Biba brothel areas. But I never felt threatened and it's wide open p4p here so the risks do not outweigh the good.