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ClubHombre.com: -TripReports-: Trip Report Archive: Middle East: 2004/01 Catocony - Mongering in Tel Aviv - This Can't be Kosher: Introduction

By Catocony on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:49 pm:  Edit

Just a quick start to the full trip report, but I've made a few mongering runs while on my trip here to Tel Aviv. First, the basics.

One, there are a shitload of working girls in Tel Aviv, mostly ex-Soviet states - I haven't met an actual Russian girl yet, but have nailed two Lithuanians from Vilnius, a Belarussian from Minsk and a girl from one of the Stans - Uzbekistan, I think. I'm not sure what city she's from, but then again, it's Carjackistan or whatever, so for all I know she grew up living in a tent.

Second, the prices are pretty good - less than $45 for short time, about $75 for an hour and that's in the main clubs. You can do much better in the cheaper ones but the girls are real skank in those joints. I was quoted a very cheap price by this girl as I was walking back from a pizza joint last night, but didn't partake.

Third, most of the customers are Arab not Israeli, at least the couple of places I've been to. There are quite a few different little "zonas" here and each one caters to a different crowd. The one I've been hitting doesn't have any street girls, although right around my hotel, there are girls working the lobby and on the streets. I'm not dining locally, so to speak, since I'm here with a couple of guys I work with and want to remain semi-respectable to the rest of the company.

The girls have all been pretty good, great service generally with BBBJ, some kissing and then a position or two until finish. I'll provide more information on the places and girls in my next post.

By Redbus on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:09 pm:  Edit

All the russian girls in israel are mainly jewish,They live and work on the Kibbutz and most are married to israelies,

By jkarp on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:21 pm:  Edit

Arabs fucking Jews, how often do you hear that. Usually it is the other way around, Jews fucking Arbas, or shooting Arabs at least.

By Roadglide on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:57 pm:  Edit

You should try the local papers for an escort if you want a local girl.

You will need someone to translate for you unless you read hebrew.

By Vik12345 on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 05:42 am:  Edit

Yes,jkarp just another news this morning, another
suiside bomber 22 year old arab woman. She probably was very angry at her husband fucking girls in Israel or just wanted to kill as many civilians.

By Vik12345 on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 05:52 am:  Edit

Yes,jkarp just another news this morning, another
suiside bomber 22 year old arab woman. She probably was very angry at her husband fucking girls in Israel or just wanted to kill as many civilians.

By Catocony on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 07:17 am:  Edit

Okay, definition of Arab - out here, there are:

Israeli Arabs. They will live to the west of the security wall/fence/green line, whatever you want to call it. They have their own towns usually but are Israeli citizens and have political representation in the Knesset.

West Bank Arabs - these are the guys living in the areas that will end up to the east of the security wall/fence/green line and will end up as Palastinian citizens one day.

Palastinian refugees - either in the West Bank or Gaza or living in camps in Lebanon, Syria or Jordan. No idea what will happen to these guys.

So, when I mean the customers are Arab, I mean Israeli Arab.

By jkarp on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 08:11 am:  Edit

I never thought of Israel as a mongering destination not only due to the conflict of Isreal occupying Arab land and tit for tat reaction by each side. But also Isreal was created on the basis of religion and in Judaism prostitution is one of the main offense one can commit. But from Catocony's post above it seems like that is not the case and girls are readily available. Not only they are available they are available to Arabs which is probably a more serious offense than prostitution to offer your body to an Arab. So it is good to know where to look in case I ever end up in Isreal on a project.

By Catocony on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 11:25 am:  Edit

I would never come here just to monger, but I agree, if you have to come here on business, you'll have the piece of mind knowing that the mongering scene is alive and well.



By FLhobbyer on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 11:42 am:  Edit

Israel occupying Arab land? Says who? Is the U.S. occupying Mexican land? Texas and California (and other) lands were gained by war. At what point do you claim that enough time has passed and it's no longer occupation? At least the Jews have some historic claim to those lands.

Please, I'd prefer you just comment that you haven't thought of Israel as an optimum destination to due Jew/Arab conflict, or Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and not comment on who has claim to lands.

By jkarp on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 12:02 pm:  Edit

FLhobbyer, you are right. This is not the forum to debate that kind of things, who has what right and who does not. But if you would like to communicate on this issue then email me at jkarp00@hotmail.com. My name is John Karp, and you may have guessed it, I am a Jew but I don't practice it.

By Aldaron on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 02:07 pm:  Edit

I'm not a Jew or an Arab, but this statement was just offensive and naive.

"Arabs fucking Jews, how often do you hear that. Usually it is the other way around, Jews fucking Arbas, or shooting Arabs at least."

By I_am_sancho on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 05:00 pm:  Edit

I thought the statement was clever and witty. I got a good chuckle out of it. Sadly, all to true as well.

I think P4P has a promising future in Israel because in a time when countries all over the world are under international pressure to stamp out prostitution, Israel stands alone as a country completely immune to any of the rules that apply to any other country. You wont see the right wing bible thumpers criticizing Israel over prostitution, you wont see the left wing media criticizing Israel over prostitution, NGO's fear to tread there. There is a large well organized Israeli Mafia with good connections with the Russian mob to bring in women and they operate with impunity. It's an ideal situation for whore mongering. An American friendly country where the same rules that apply to other civilized countries simply do not apply. Democratic and Republican politicians disagree on everything else except for one thing. Unconditional support of Israel. No one will ever dare challenge prostitution in Israel.

By Seaman on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 07:36 pm:  Edit

You may call yourself sancho, but you should consider calling yourself "I am stupid".

How's that for clever and witty?

There's no question the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, and how the US deals with it, is incredibly complex and growing more so. The only certainties are that broad generalizations are usually naive (thanks, Aldaron) and that CH is the least relevant place to share them.

Can we get on to more important issues such as whether to use a guide in Rio?

By Roadglide on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 09:36 pm:  Edit

Hey guys, take a chill pill. Let's try to leave the political discusion out of Club Hombre.

Having been to Israel twice in the 90s, I can tell you it's not a bad mongering location, and if you are like me, you like to have real tourist stuff to see and do as a cover.

By I_am_sancho on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 10:01 pm:  Edit

I_am_very__informed__about_the_basis_of_the_Arab__Israeli_conflict_more_so_than_about_98%_of_Americans_who_are_completely_ignorant_about_it

But I tried to mainly confine my commentary to the positive impact it is having on the whore mongering in the region and the unique situation where the sex tourism industry is largely covered by Israel's blanket immunity to international pressure or criticism. It is unique and beneficial to whore mongers in a world where other venues are coming under pressure all over the planet.

Sorry if I skewered anyones sacred cow in the process but I did get a chuckle over "the comment".

I better tiptoe back out of this discussion now before I cause any more trouble. It's a topic I know way to much about.

By Blazers on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 08:37 am:  Edit

I wrote several papers about this topic in college and read about it constantly but I am biting my tongue and wont talk about American media bias towards Isreal or plight of the Palestinians or any other Xionist topics.....another day and another board.

By jkarp on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 12:09 pm:  Edit

American media bias towards Israel???? Heck we own the media, we say whatever we want to say. Check this out: http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

By Exhead Cannibas on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 12:31 pm:  Edit

Would you fuckers just chill and enjoy sex!

By Blazers on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 02:20 pm:  Edit

Jkarp, an excellent article with an unbelievable breakdown of media ownership BUT the author has a lot of hatred. I do think it's sad that Jewish-Americans are now untouchable when it comes to criticism as a result of centralized power in the media conglomerates. It's as if they want to keep it a big secret that they control the dispersement of information via the media and call anyone an anti-semite for bringing it up.....sad but true.

By Robert Johnson on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 06:48 pm:  Edit

The Holy Land, a movie, was being shown in San Diego recently. I did not see it, but it is about a Jewish Israeli Bible student. He is advised by a rabbi to focus on his studies; to work out his urges by getting with a hooker(s).

He falls in love with one. His rabbi should have advised him to first bone up on Clubhombre.com.

By Seaman on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 11:39 am:  Edit

Wow, fellas. I have to assume this is the first time a site sponsored by the US religious right, white supremacists, and the KKK has been quoted on CH, which blatantly promotes such "sins" as interracial sex, prostitution, and open borders. Remember, the real evil by-products of the jewish controlled media, according to that article, are concepts such as "multiculturalism", "the desirability of a pluralistic, cosmopolitan society rather than a homogeneous White one", "the moral equlivalence of all sexual orientations", and, my favorite, "the equality of the races." Talk about bias in the media!

C'mon. If all these jews have swindled the american public, zillions of shareholders (oh wait, jews control wall street too) and, laughably Rupert Murdoch, then maybe my twisted right wing rabbi is right. Maybe jews are the chosen people. For the record, I don't believe it but, if you're right, its one of the few plausible explanations, right? But wait, maybe the weak have risen - since the article was published, the "jew" Levin was forced out at Time Warner and replaced by the "mulatto" Parsons while Steve Case and Turner remain on the Board.

Most importantly, to suggest that the "jewish controlled media" and Israel's immunity from international criticism allow a guy to get a hooker in Tel Aviv is a bit of a stretch. Morocco (an Arab country) has neither and i got far better lays there than in Israel!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna have some premaritial sex with an illegal immigrant latina after which we will get an abortion and perhaps organize a communist rally.

By Catocony on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 02:00 pm:  Edit

Okay, so I was fucking this Russian girl in Tel Aviv and wrote about it on the internet........

I'll check with my contacts on the Bilderberg Group to see who is really running the world this week, but in the meantime, I'll finish up my trip report this weekend with a breakdown of Club 101 and a few other spots.

Is that okay with everyone, or should we remain off topic?

By Seaman on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 03:55 pm:  Edit

Thanks. I guess its getting too easy to get my dander up. I'll focus on a Cuba report (commies! mixed breeds!) as well.

BTW, I thought you said you hadn't met a russian girl yet? I smell another jew conspiracy brewing.

By Blazers on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 03:56 pm:  Edit

Seaman, first off, you are right that the spirit and purpose of that article is preposterous and wrong but the factual breakdown of the ownership and executive power in America's media was factually accurate and makes one think of how it plays in the dissemination of media, especially the Arab-Israeli conflict. Moreover, Rupert Murdoch is a bad example and you should not bring in his name to show a lack of bias...he has very little to no say what is shown on Fox but Peter Chernin, Laura Ziskin and Peter Roth have a lot of say in how the news and other forms of media are presented with Fox.

By Vik12345 on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 04:58 pm:  Edit

Catocony, hope to enjoy your report on Sunday
since weekend ends on Saturday in Tel Aviv.

By Catocony on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 07:23 pm:  Edit

Seaman,

I was fucking this Russian-speaking, ex-Soviet-citizen-from-a-former-Soviet-republic-that-I-can't-spell-too-well and wrote about it on the internet.....

For everyone else, I'm a non-practicing Episcopalian (not that we ever really practice anyways) and for what it's worth, the Israelis I work with, while being Jews in name, are fairly agnostic. There is a difference between being Jewish and being Israeli, not everyone there is Orthodox and running around in a beard and hat. You run into those guys but I've seen that more often in mid-town Manhattan and Brooklyn than I saw in Tel Aviv.

The only problem I had with the Jewish faith while there was last Saturday, when I was in a conservative neighborhood where most people did the kosher food thing. When I was trying to order lunch and the guy couldn't make me a chicken and cheese sandwich, I was forced into creativity. I had to order a chicken sandwich and then order some cheese seperately to put on it. Those bastards!

By Don Marco on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 08:17 pm:  Edit

And I thought the "holy land" was LoS all this time... arabs/jews... how bout soapies?

By Vik12345 on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 02:31 pm:  Edit

I was in Israel on vacation more than three years
ago and stayed in Tel Aviv. But than sides were
talking peace and turism were booming as well as
night life in Tel Aviv. How the new reality effect supply of east european women in the clubs(for pay for play). Catocony, I know that I rush
and you will tell us about this in your report.
Enjoy your time there.

By Bendejo on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 03:19 pm:  Edit

er, ah, ahem, to change the subject a bit, there used to be a statistic floating around that Israel was the country that had the most Americans in its jails, mostly for drug charges. I never figured that one out. Most Israelis I meet on the road are tokers. Can anyone shed some light on this?

By Iggy on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 03:11 pm:  Edit

fl hobbyer probaly since u.n.resolution from 1948,that says that no countries shall be able to extend their border by the way of military force.that was the reason that it became possible for the u.n.to agree of the bombing of serbia?former part of yogoslavia.iggy sca.p.s. hope this was the last piece of arab -israel conflict

By Valterreekian on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 04:35 pm:  Edit

Jeez you guys. All this reading and I still know next to nothing about mongering in Isreal. Sheeesh

By Lou32d on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 06:10 pm:  Edit

yeah, if all the mongerers in Israel have as much appetite for debate as you guys it's no wonder the ass scene blows.

By Whoretester on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 06:38 am:  Edit

No kidding. Knock it off, guys. Hold your debate for the proper CH forum thread.

By Jackleelynn on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 10:41 am:  Edit

http://www.050626216.com/

I was in the middle east-israel,egypt amd jordan recently,in tel aviv the russian mob runs some good escort agencies lots of blonds check the link

By Johnnyroc on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 05:07 pm:  Edit

sounds like an awful place to monger

By Majormajor on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 10:55 pm:  Edit

What if there is a camel in front of the place?

By Branquinho on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 06:16 am:  Edit

Is there a disease running rampant on CH causing guys to dig up old posts for no apparent purpose?

By Johnnyroc on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 06:53 am:  Edit

Branquino.....some of us enjoy reading and reminiscing about older reports. The new guys have some questions. I dont think its a disease.

By Jonesie on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 11:41 am:  Edit

I too enjoy the enthusiasm of Mr. Lennon. I find it refreshing. This place has been pretty quiet lately and a lot of guys don't seem to be reporting.

By Copperfieldkid on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 04:26 pm:  Edit

I didn't know members had to have a purpose to review a post. My guess would be they hadn't read it. Apparently some members feel that once a post goes into the archives [72hrs after posting] it has no value. I posted the following to an earlier post on this same subject, here it is again for another read: [oh, and in the event you don't read it today it will be here years from now!!]
As per definition any report over 72hrs old automatically goes into the archives. Only continued posts will keep it 'alive', even then the earlier posts will be archived and out of view. I don't know about anyone else, but I still haven't read all the archived reports/posts . This place is like the Library of Congress on many subjects! Having said that, it flies in the face of reason for anyone, new or veteran not to review the archives and if inclined post a comment. The quality of that post is not the real issue here. It is expected that everyone 'do their homework', now it's being criticized. It is every members right to review these archives and comment on them. If Hombre did not think them of value they would not be saved, archived and retrievable. Apparently it isn't a waste of band width as some members seem to indicate.
"ad nauseam"

CFK

By Bwana_dik on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 06:37 pm:  Edit

No one needs a purpose to review a post, CFK, but it might be nice if they had a purpose for making a post. Two entirely different issues...né? I would rather not read totally meaningless posts. One could say "well, then don't read them!" but this neglects the fact that you won't know the post is meaningless until you've read it. Just my point of view.

By Copperfieldkid on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 09:10 pm:  Edit






(Message edited by copperfieldkid on May 28, 2009)

By Roadglide on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 10:16 pm:  Edit

Bwana; Remember the last guy on the board that claimed he was from 90210? LOL

By Copperfieldkid on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 08:27 am:  Edit

Bwana,

keep in mind $54.95 is the difference between a minimum of 120 credits/hrs [or more!] and a meaningless post sometimes [common sense not withstanding]

CFK

(Message edited by copperfieldkid on May 29, 2009)

By Bwana_dik on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 08:56 am:  Edit

CFK-

You lost me, bro...

RG-

Shit...hadn't thought of him in some time.

yikes


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