Comparisons to Rio
Airfare-about even

Hotel-Thailand, for about $35US you can live like a king. A $60US room in Rio which is like a Motel6 would only cost like $20US in Thailand.

Food-Thailand, for price maybe only slightly to Thailand’s favor but for quality/taste, it was Thailand, maybe I just like Thai food better than Brazilian. Although the churrascuria is hard to beat if you’re a carnivore and very hungry.

Girls-this one’s gotta go to Rio. Thailand doesn’t have the roundbootie Only saw maybe a handful at most with some kind of a bootie. Thai girls tend to be a little bigger upstairs and softer skinned (yet their lips aren’t that soft). Thai girls pretty much all look ‘asian’, a few were lighter skinned and looked a little half-breed. In Rio there was more variety of look, some that look latin, some that look black, some that looked caucasian. In Rio, I’m more likely to find my 5’4”, <100#, with B-C cups, and a nice roundbootie! Would you call that a spinner? There are tons of what I would call spinners in Thailand but actually they are bearing on midgets. Seemed like 75% of Thai girls were under 5’ tall, I could rest my chin on top of their heads. If they stood with their back against a wall, every inch of they backside would touch the wall, that’s how flat their booties are. They also have wide flat noses. Also, most girls in Thailand appear naturally bushy, a few trimmed and even fewer shaved; in Rio, almost all or either shaved or trimmed.

Service-gotta go to Rio again. The garotas typically give DFK, BBBJ, and multiple positions. In Thailand, the typical is CBJ, no DFK you’re lucky to get any kissing at all, and CG, not multiple positions.

These are just my subjective opinions, as always YMMV, maybe I need a return visit to get a better impression?

My DFK percentage was pretty close to to 100%. My BBBJ percentage was probably in the 70%-85% range. This was only brought down by the fact I went to a lot of massage parlors and the girls are higher volume there and don't like to do it as much. Most Beer Bar girls and Go Go girls give BBBJ's, in my experience.

I really got scared with the experience you had with a ladyboy. Are there as many ladyboys in Philippines or Cambodia?

Great report Roundbootie, I really like the name by the way. I would have stayed longer in Pattaya, as it probably has better looking go-go girls and a lot more working girls period.

I'm a sucker for a nice bootie as well and I agree with you that the Thai girls can't compete with the Garotas in that department. You're also right about the incredible diversity of the girls in RIO, and the overall better sexual services. Looks are a bit more subjective, and I tend to get more attracted to the Thais.

But with all the thumbprinting, the airport lines, the petty street crime, and the big monger crowds in the Termas (esp 4x4) during my 2 trips to RIO, I'm having trouble choosing RIO over SEA. Plus, if you get down to it, there are tons more p4p activities and a lot more working girls in LOS.

Again, RIO is definitely still on my radar, and will be for some time to come, especially when I crave the gorgeous booties.

I think your Thailand experience was atypical. You fell into every tourist trap imaginable . I cannot believe the prices you paid for everything. The soapie papasans really gouged you. 7,000 baht for 2 girls is outrageous.
My exprience with Thai girls over many years is they are a lot more passionate than you describe in your encounters. I do not understand why all the girls you picked seemed so disconnected and not into what they were doing. I find this a very rare experience.

Next trip you gotta hook up with an Hombre experienced Thailand. Do not give up-- you will regret it !

I think the difference is that there are some Thai girls who are robobabes and go through the motions with a lot of enthusiasm with great service but all business but it seems that the Brazilian girls are ALL robobabes and give excellent service but your sessions are short and to the point. If its pure raw sex your looking for, I guess Brazil would be the place.....you can find that in Thailand but the girls are into the pretend boyfriend experience as well, especially in Pattaya.

Don't know Blazers, where you got the impression that "Brazilian girls are ALL robobabes": that's totally at odds with my experience and other mongers who return trip after trip after trip. Come on down and see for yourself!

I must agree with Khun_mor, you did not exerience the real LOS except for being ripped of as a tourist. A little more planning and hooking up with some fellow hobbyists would have made your trip a completely different one.

BBBJ and DFK is more common than not and you will have a lot of Thai girls going wild if you dine at the Y. Next time spend your 7000 baht on a two girl takeaway from Eden, tell Marc exactly what you want and party. I have not had the pleasure of visiting Rio so I cannot compare, but I am sure your experiences should not be used by others as a good comparison.

Very nice first report.

I agree with Khun Mor & WW - there are a number of tourist traps you can fall in (God knows I have) and it gets much easier the 2nd time.

I've also had a much higher success rate with BBBJ & DFK. And I'm not that big of a fan of Eden - but I'm only basing that on having been twice.

Sorry to hear about the bait-and-switch with the golf. For me, there's two ways to book golf.

1. Book through George @ www.golfasian.com. He can get tee-times at all the best courses, including the Thai Country Club. His service can be a bit pricey, but everything is done for you and transportation is included.

The second way is to get the 2004 Thailand Golf Guide and book the tee times yourself. (Not so hard to do). I like to book tee-times between 11 - 12noon. Sure, it's hot - but there's no one around but you and your caddie, and I like that. Renting golf clubs should be 500 baht.

Again, real nice report!

Xenono: I thought that maybe the beer bar girls and go go girls would give more like GFE than massage parlor girls but I found them less attractive than the massage parlors girls. Q: would you see a fine-looking girl that gave so-so service or would you see a so-so looking girl that gave great service? Or to more of an extreme, would you see an absolute hottie that gave terrible service or an ugly overweight heffer that gave fantastic service?

Khur mor: I wouldn’t say the girls I saw weren’t into what they were doing. I would just say the service was just somewhat professional, not GFE. Maybe I’m jaded because I feel that ALL service is professional, they don’t ever really like you, they’re just after your money. The real pros, to me, are the ones that can really fake you into believing that they really like you and tell you that you’re paying them too much, that’s real GFE. My experiences were more like sex with a female friend.

Wallstreet: Thanks for the tips on golf. Actually I did contact George at golfasian.com but my request was too short notice. That why I reverted to using the hotel concierge. But thanks for the positive referral on golfasian.com; he is a little pricey, but good to know I won’t get ripped off too. And thanks for the tip on the Golf Guide. Yeah, it’s hot golfing at 11-12noon, like golfing in Arizona, although that’s dry heat as opposed to humid heat in Thailand.

Another Q… in Brazil, girls are called garotas, what are girls called in Thailand? Is there a difference between what you’d call a ‘girl’ that is a pro and a non-pro?

I guess I was at Patpong too early but went to Nana and Soi Cowboy probably between 9pm and 2am and never saw a single girl who I thought was fine. Actually on the whole trip I didn’t see anyone that rocked my world, pro or non-pro, but then again people say I’m too picky. I like GFE but need variety cause I get tired of the same girl. Make me feel like your boyfriend for an hour or two, then next? It’s like ADD with girls LOS is truly the Land of Smiles – I found so many people very friendly and full of smiles… just so happens most were non-pros. In the future, I will try to interject more humor rather than being purely informative... thanks to those that did give me props!

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IMO, the quality at the massage parlors versus the Go-Go's is a tossup. My MO was usually to take two massage parlor girls in the daytime and one Go-Go or beer bar girl at night. Usually the beer bar girls are the least attractive, but there are always diamonds in the rough to be found.

I really never had to worry much about session quality in Thailand, at least the way you describe it above. I never lowered my standards for the purpose or hopes of a better session. I just choose who I wanted. In the beer bars or Go-Go's I always talked to them first. That is the one major drawback to the massage parlors.

Most of my sessions were great to fantastic. You are coming from a Rio standpoint though. I don't think the Rio sessions are any better or worse compared to Thailand in terms of GFE or quality of the sex. They are just different. I think this "difference" (e.g. anal sex, ass licking, being attacked and treated like a piece of meat) is often used as why Thailand is not as "good" as Rio. Those things are not as important to me as a good GFE session, DFK, and a BBBJ which are all just as readily available in Thailand as they are in Rio. The agressiveness of the ladies, the ass licking and the anal sex is not. But that is not related to quality of session, IMO. It is more related to "services offered," which again is not as important to ME as the other services I mentioned.

Even my average sessions in Thailand included most of what I wanted and left me quite satisfied.

so how much was your total trip?
is this not a good time to go?

Volcom415: you probably don't really want to know... but since you asked, I spent about $3K; breakdown being...
airfare: $1600 (discovered you can't book last minute and get a good deal)
hotel: $400 (7 nights)
girls: $800 (10 girls, 2 trips to the bar but no hookup, and 1 'it')
food: $90 (@$5/meal)
transportation: $85 (airport taxis, Skytrain, buses to/from Pattaya, misc.)
golf: $110
others: $95

I'm hoping that this was not a good time to go because of the quality and quantity disappointments I had.

A little bit of planning would have cut your costs in half.
Book 2 weeks in advance save $800
Good hotel off the main drag Save $150
Pick go-go and beer bar girls Save $200
Book your own golf course Save $50
Food at $2 Save $30.
Transportation, I spent $20 for a all day cab, $3 each to and from airport.
Next time plan ahead, use your head and don't get overcharged so much.

Roundbootie: I´m a Brazil fan and was not too impressed when I first got to LOS. It took some adjusting of my expectations, and I had to understand what I needed to do to get what I want (good morning, you´re not in Brazil anymore!), but after a few weeks my experience very much improved.
But Brazil, and especially Rio, does more than spoil you -- IT IS DAMAGING! You will be hard pressed to find booties like that anywhere else. And once a garota´s buttons get properly pushed and she goes into full heat and starts doing things like pulling your dick out of her pussy and sticking it in her ass (and without asking permission! the nerve!), well, as I said, you get damaged for life.

694me: So I guess for transportation @$20/all day cab x 5 days = $100 plus $3 each to and from airport = $6, so total = $106, save -$21. Thanks for the tips, I'll use my head next time.

Bendejo: So after 'adjusting' which do you prefer LOS or Brazil?

RB: for pure animal sex, Brazil is the place, and once you know what to avoid, like the hard-core pro scene at Help, the chances of disappointment diminish as well. Not to say you won´t find a treasure at Help, maybe, but more and more your chances of getting fucked over are more likely than getting a good fuck (strictly IMO). All in all, Brazil is a tough act to follow.
In LOS, again, once I figured out how to sort out the duds, I found these gals are best when taken for all-nighters: they can get affectionate, giving, and playful. Too often, "short time" means clock watching, moving things along, on to the next, etc. Like anywhere in the world, "short time" can be interpretted as "short a time as possible."

My general philosophy of life makes me a "more flies with honey than with shit" type: yeah, I can be a bad-ass, but I would rather not be. Some gals like this, and we get along famously. Some see it as me being a chump, and once I get wind of that attitude there goes my good nature, and I let them know it.

Language is important: if in Brazil you must learn Portuguese, as the programa girls that speak English are sharks 99% of the time. Learn the language, joke around, make them laugh, get them hot -- in the right mood a Brasiliera can make you the happiest man on earth. I have the impression that a lot of the hookers in Brazil actually like sex, as opposed to something they only suffer through for the money. Even in if it´s just a preformance, it´s a damn good one.
In LOS I´m more accepting of a robo-babe performance, whereas in Brazil it would border on disappoinment. But sometimes you can get a real firecracker, like the 90 lb. spinner who saturated the sheets: "look what you make me do!"

Bendejo, thanks for the comparison, but re: the Brazil chicks 'liking' sex, how many do you get staying around for the all-nighters that are so important in Thailand to get the 'goodies'?

Oh, and how much do they charge for 'liking it' all night?

Liking sex and liking me are two very different things

Nice comeback, and confirms a little of what I thought about Brazil. I really appreciate the comparisons, and to reiterate for the THOUSANDTH time, I REALLY have nothing against the mercenary 'nymphos' d'Brazil. I'd LOVE to be able to afford to go there and get the same treatment I get in Asia, only with 'hotter' and 'hornier' girls.

I mean if they are truly 'hotter' and 'hornier' and 'hard-bodieder', I can easily FORGET that they are on average 3-4 years older and 7Xorso more expensive than the average Asian girl.