By Esdude on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 11:16 am: Edit |
III. BANGKOK SOAPIES – SLIP AND SLIDES
Prior to going to LOS, I did A LOT of research on the many BKK soapies. Although I have much info on as many as twenty MPs, we really only made it four in Bkk. There are three overriding reasons to go to the MP’s: (1) one of the few sources of readily available daytime action; (2) high number of the best looking women in LOS; and (3) see number 2 above. I had heard differing information as to when most soapies open. The ones I went to opened at around 2 or 3 pm, but the sad reality is that the soapies don’t seem to get a full complement of women until around 5pm.
I never went to any of the Sukhumvit soapies (Darling or Annie’s) and, despite my fine research, we made it to our MP purely by accident. Following our first night in BKK, Naps, Mrjoe and I found ourselves severely tired and jetlagged. To remedy this, we decided to hit a real traditional Thai massage (TTM) place (no “wink wink” side action). We asked the Omni front desk people for a recommendation and an address written in Thai for the cabdriver.
Since we went straight from Panthip Plaza rather than the hotel, I really didn’t pay attention to where the TTM place was. In fact, even now, I still don’t know the name of the place (I took a card back from there, but it lists no name in English). I have to admit that I went there with relatively low expectations. Although I love deep tissue massages, I have found most other “asian” massages kind of lame (not a big fan of shiatsu massage, for instance). Nevertheless, we walked into this unremarkable one story building and happily paid 500B each for a two hour massage. The three of us (Pokerface having not yet arrived) got our feet washed, we were led to this very long air conditioned room that is separated mainly by curtains. I’m guessing now, but the long room had room for maybe twenty people to get massaged. We were given baggy pajama pants to change into and told to lie down. What followed was a very enjoyable and relaxing massage. In addition to spending a lot of time stretching out and kneading my legs, they spent a good portion of time on my neck and shoulders and really worked out the knots. Other than the fact that they do not use oil at all, I received one of my best deep tissue massages ever.
Even after finishing the massage, and stepping outside, I still didn’t exactly where we were. However, I had been made curious by the pillow cases covering the pillows in the massage rooms. There was a logo with a building on it and the words “Plaza Entertainment Complex.” Now, I definitely remembered that PEC was the name of a MP, but I was pretty sure that the building housing the TTM did not have room for a soapie operation. So, you wouldn’t believe my joy when I walked out of the TTM, looked up and saw the PEC building and sign. It must be managed or owned by the same people. The TTM is located just west of the Soi 3 and Makkasan intersection. After explaining what PEC was to my friends, we raced over there just to get a look.
PLAZA ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX
After the short walk, I noticed two separate entrances, one in the garage and one that looked like the building’s main entrance. Remembering that the PEC housed a number of MP’s, we went through the main entrance, which was the entrance to Plaza. The time was approximately 3pm and there were not yet a lot of women, but they were almost all very hot. Plaza has three separate areas, the front section, the middle section and the last section which was the fishbowl. I was informed by one of the papasans that he price for each section of girls differed. I vaguely recall the prices being 1900, 2400 and 2700B from back to front. I asked by the price difference and was told that the “prettier women” (by whose standard I’m not exactly positive) were more expensive.
After getting a good look at the women, the three of us were ready to go and make our selection. That was when the first wrinkle came up. Being asian, I was given the regular price; my buddies (who are not asian) received a different price structure. Their price was 2900, 3400 and 4200B back to front. Yep, that’s right; the surcharge was between 1000B to 1500B. Quite understandably, my buddies weren’t thrilled with the price discrepancy. Although they had been told of this possibility, they did not want to pay that much more for the same women. I understood, and remembered that Cupidy was just downstairs and that it had no surcharge (except if you come by taxi, which we did not). Therefore, in solidarity, the three of us walked out the door, down the driveway, through the underground garage and into Cupidy.
CUPIDY
As you walk in, you will see the sideliners on the left and the fishbowl straight ahead. I think the price between the two were 2200B and 1900B. Once again, PERHAPS the sideliners had slightly better lookers, but not necessarily so. I spoke to the papasan, who assured us that there was no Caucasian surcharge. Since it was still only about 4pm, there were not a lot of women there, but more than enough for the three of us to choose a hottie each. I chose on one of the sideliners and I think my buddies chose from the bowl.
After paying up by credit card (I vaguely recall a 10% credit card surcharge – see there’s always some surcharge somewhere), we all took the elevator upstairs to our rooms. I know that this has all been written to death, but I have to add my voice to the chorus: you NEVER forget your first slip and slide!!!! I’m pretty sure I smiled throughout and giggled periodically. It was VERY erotic. All of the subsequent slip and slides I would get over the next two weeks would more or less follow the same script. You get to your room, the tub is filled, and you are undressed and bathed. Then you are given the slip and slide treatment on the air mattress. After you are TOTALLY aroused, you are rinsed off and taken to bed. Kind of a bland description, but a VERY fun time. The sex itself is kind of ymmv. Given the water treatments and the air conditioning, I found myself cold quite a bit of the time. Also, not all of the girls dfk, or bbbj (in fact, at Cupidy, the papasan said that bj’s were covered only), and the sex itself was at times a little mechanical. The total experience nevertheless was great and HIGHLY recommended.
MIRAGE
The following day, my three friends and I went to MP central (Ratchadaphisek). We took a cab to Nataree (once again, no taxi or other surcharge), but it had just opened and there were no girls there yet. Checking my map, we walked about 100 yards to the Mirage.
Once again, since it was only about 3pm, the fishbowl was sparsely populated. Pokerface, who had just arrived the night before was raring to go and was easily able to find someone who could satisfy his lust. No surcharge, about 2000B (with, I think, maybe a small credit card surcharge). Up he went. The rest of us were not as thrilled by the few girls remaining, despite the heavy pushing by the papasans. When that happens, just ignore them; we did. I eventually noticed a stairway near the bathroom with a sign for a “Model Lounge.” Naturally, I ran up the stairs to find a more relaxed setting with a number of girls sitting on the couch. I checked with the papasan up there and was told that these women were “part-timers”, supposedly better looking, and therefore more expensive. I think their fee was about 2600B. I did find the girls hotter up there, so I made my choice and went upstairs.
Although Mirage is a MP, I did not get the slip and slide, just a thorough bath, rinsing and bed action. I’m not sure if the Mirage doesn’t provide the S&S or if just the models don’t. The girl I picked was very hot, had surprising large natural breasts (C cup), but the sex again was only okay. CBJ and no dfk. In hindsight, I think that THE hottest women I saw in LOS worked at the MPs. Great looking, lighter skin, more European features, with a lot of them having large breasts. However, much of them spoke little to no English. I think the key to a really great time is to choose carefully, and ask them beforehand specifically what they do or don’t do.
By the time Pokerface and I came down, the fishbowl was now half-filled with a very large number of gorgeous women. Mrjoe and Naps assured us that the majority of them just arrived. Of course, Mrjoe and Naps were now able to comfortably choose their own hottie. Mrjoe and Pokerface would ultimately agree with me. It was tough to interview the girls beforehand. Although they were gorgeous and the S&S very fun, the sex itself was not that spectacular. Naps, on the other hand, had much better experiences. Maybe it’s just the luck of the draw.
PLAZA ENTERTAINMENT
The following day, we decided to hit the MPs again. Because we were, again, going relatively early (around 4pm), we decided to go to Plaza/Cupidy. Following the advice from Cupidy’s papasan, we took a cab to Plaza, got out and looked at their women first. If you take a cab or tuk-tuk to Cupidy directly, you will pay a 100% surcharge. DON’T DO IT!!
Walking into Plaza, I saw some gorgeous women (both the models and in the bowl). I decided that since I didn’t have to pay the white guy surcharge, I HAD to engage here. I have to admit that one of the primary reasons was so that I could tell my Caucasian buddies that the women there made fire shoot out of my ass.
This time, I buddied up with a papasan, who explained the whats, wheres and whys. In fact, he understood that the white guy surcharge was embarrassing, but he told me that it was basically a market segmentation ploy. Plaza is meant to be for the tourists from Singapore, HK, China, Japan, Korea and Taiwan. All the MPs at the Complex are managed by one group and all except Cupidy is owned by the same group. It is part of the overall plan that Caucasians go to Cupidy. That’s why Cupidy has a taxi surcharge and Plaza does not. He also said that the LEAST attractive (by asian standards) women worked at Cupidy. I can honestly say that I did not notice any difference between the women at Cupidy and the women at Plaza. The papasan also took me upstairs to certain floors that are geared to the Japanese and Chinese customers. 4 to 6 bedroom suites (each w/ Jacuzzi), with huge dining rooms, large screen TVs, etc. These suites cost 1000B and up for two hours, not including the women.
This time, I also pre-screened my woman. I picked her from the bowl and I asked her specifically about DFK. She enthusiastically said “yes,” so up we went. Coincidentally or not, the both times I specifically asked for DFK, it was on the table. All the other times I did not ask for it, it was verboten. Not surprisingly, this might have been my best MP session. All right, maybe not “fire” out of the ass, but perhaps a few sparks. Also, here is a little tip on sideliners/models and fishbowl girls. The fishbowl girls are employees. The SLs and models work part-time and are sometimes better looking. However, the fishbowl girls are more experienced and perhaps better at “customer service.” Just something to think about.
PLAYSKOOL
That night, we went to Nana again and I was hoping to repeat with my Playskool girl. I went in, asked the waitress for her and in a few minutes she bounded in my direction. Alas, she had already been barfined, so I cast my line out for other prey. I saw this lovely with long hair and started my negotiations through a waitress (she was on stage dancing). At first she would only do ST. Since I had a specific agenda in mind (including LT), I shrugged and said “thanks anyway.” Then, she agreed to LT and the price (I forget what it was), but ultimately the deal broke down when she said that she did not DFK.
By this time, it was almost 2am (closing time), and this short-haired blond was sitting next to me. Seizing the opportunity, she offered me long time (w/ DFK) and said that she’d meet me outside in 30 minutes and that I wouldn’t have to pay the bar fine. I never got her name but gave her my cell number. I ended up meeting my buddies who were all outside Angels Disco. While waiting, a saw a car (driven think by a Thai) aggressively drive into the parking lot and knock over some German guy. Incensed by the driver’s attitude, the German and his buddies banged the car a few times, but nothing else happened.
At 2:45, I realized that I was being stood up. Since I hadn’t invested much, I wasn’t too bummed about it and decided to call it a night. After all, I figured that I needed the rest. We were going to Pattaya the next day!!!
By Blazers on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 12:08 pm: Edit |
Great stuff. I will tell you that I really don't think the Soapie girls are always better looking than the Pattaya go go girls(BKK are of lesser quality). My complaints with soapies is that the girls are normally dressed in these goofy prom type dresses so you really can't get a gage for how hot their body is. In general, the girls are older, have lighter skin and are thin but not as thin as your average go go girl. The daytime action at these places is quite weak actually and the best time to go is after 6pm. It cracks me up that the owners think that the traditional Chinese look is prettier than girls with Chinese/THai mix or girls with the olive skin Bangkok look. Believe it or not, Asian men(not Asian-American) like their girls with a little meat on their bones(borderline chubby). It is well known that they like the girls with ghost white skin and slanted eyes which is odd to me becaue that what the girls look like in their own country....
Excellent perspective so far and great info.
By Esdude on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 02:52 am: Edit |
Blazers,
I agree with you on all but two points:
1. I've never heard of any asian guys going for chubbyish girls, although they do love that pale (I call it "dead fish") look. If you go to a KTV in Taiwan or China, you'll see a ton of girls with that look.
2. I think all asian guys agree on one thing: hot blondes with big boobs!!!!
In contrast, native asian guys do not at all dig dark skin. Two of my buddies and I were incredulous when an asian friend said he wouldn't "do" Gabrielle Union (Bad Boys 2; Bring it On)!!
On my first trip to Sabai Room, the dark skinned girl I chose found it hard to believe that I'm Asian. To me, hot is hot.
By N8guy on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 05:49 am: Edit |
Being of the asian persuasion myself, I can say I don't dig pale girls at all.
I love the Filipinas because of their beautiful brown skin. And I find it ridiculous and often hideous when they put on that white face makeup to make themselves more pale.
Plus, please give me Gabrielle Union or Beyonce' anyday of the week!!!!
By Blazers on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 08:08 am: Edit |
Please dont confuse Asian-Americans with native Asian men from Japan, China, Korea..... they were trained at a young age of what the ideal beautiful woman is. Asian-Americans are too smart and enlightened by growing up in an integrated society of many cultures unlike native Japanese, CHinese and Koreans whom grow up in a homogenous and ethnocentric society. Trust me when I say that natives like the chubby pale look....if you speak the local language...they will let you know.
By Wickedwilly on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 05:02 am: Edit |
Daytime fun
There are lots of places to get daytime fun. You mentioned Annies which you can visit ar take away all day for 2,000
Also try Hair Design, in the half Soi between 11 and 13. They do great massages and a bar fine of 1,000. You can pay that at 8.30 am and have them all day and night, if you wish. I tend to order the day before, have the girl come over all day and pamper me, then release her in the evening before setting out to go-gos or whatever. Also there are many other massage places that have good daytime action.
Next is the Beer Garden on Soi 7, or any other beer bar that is open all day, try Nana or Asok.
Most hotels have in room massage if you are lazy and do not want to go out. Action can be a little more expensive though.
You can also make a daytime date with a girl you met before, always worth bearing in mind if you see someone you like, but cannot fit her in there and then.
Another option is the Blowjob bars on Soi 8 or Patpong.
So all in all more than enough to keep even the greediest hobbyist occupied during the day in BKK.
WW