I just returned from a two-weeks trip to Switzerland. I stayed in Zurich and Lugano with a long weekend in Zermatt, a winter resort in the mountains. During this trip, I actually mixed mongering, tourism and friends meeting. I want to thank Godfather whose information posted on this board helps me a lot in Lugano and who gave me the wonderful idea to visit this city. I was lucky with the weather and I kept superb memories from all the chapters of my trip.

ZEUS: AN EXPENSIVE GOD

The first week in Switzerland was devoted to mongering. Since I watched a TV report on Club Zeus (between Lucern and Küssnacht/40 km south of Zürich) I wanted to visit this place (www.zeus.ch) considered as the biggest sex club in Helvetia. I arrived on a Friday in Zürich and stayed in the village of Risch near Club Zeus. I highly recommand the hotel where I was. It is located on the shores of a beautiful lake, the Zuger See (www.waldheim.ch). I paid only 75 euros (breakfast included) for a nice, comfortable bedroom with balcony and lakeviews. In high season it is more expensive.

I arrived around 7 pm at the club located in an industrial area (building is shared apparently with a tire company or something like that). Big difference with German FKKs which usually enjoyed a nice countryside and gardens. Nevertheless, Zeus takes up at least two floors if I am correct. I paid 70 CHF (50 euros) as entrance fee (with one drink and warm buffet). For Fridays, they have what they call a « Party Time » : for 400 CHF (260 euros) you can join four or five girls with other Party Timers in separate rooms and can do up to 3 numbers during two hours (if I am not wrong). Since it was my first time and I did not know what was the quality of the girls in this club I decided to avoid this deal and check what was available in the main lounge. Around 7 30 pm, there was not much customers (2 or 3 including me !) and approximatly 10 girls (ranging from 6 to 8 on my scale). As I was visiting the premisses, one girl followed me up the stairs and started to be a little pushy. She was topless (nice breast) and maybe a 7 1/2. I said no and told her I wanted to have my dinner first. She left quite disappointed. So I had cold vegetable salads and warm sausages with potatoes and sauerkraut. Absolutely necessary before the action.

I then came back downstairs to the main lounge. Also downstairs you have a swimming pool and a big jacuzzi (upstairs are the dining room, saunas, gym and VIP rooms). Immediatly one or two girls came to talk to me. They were Eastern euros : Bulgarian and Hungarian. They were not to my taste and a little pushy. They tried to get some drinks out of me but I refused. One girl kept on talking to me in german which I hardly understand. She started a long monologue whose I did not catch a word. It was ridiculous. I decided to avoid these girls who appeared to lack for any sense of psychology. No way a session can be good with them.

I escaped from the bar and stood by myself near the swimming pool. A nice and sweet girl with a mediterranean look (dark hair, brown skin) came up to me. She introduced her as Leïla from Marocco. This was the miracle ! At last somebody there who speaks french and Leïla was the first pro I met in my mongering career who speaks french. Immediatly, thanks to the language, there was a complicity between us. She was not a supermodel (a nice face but not a great body) but I liked her and knew that the session would be interesting. Furthermore, Leïla said that she was living in Italy (Milano) during the week and that she would be more than happy to join me for the two/three hours drive to Lugano I had to do on Sunday. From Lugano she would then take a train to Milano. I said deal !!!!!

We went to a nice and large room with many mirrors. The session was absolutly great. Although Leïla did a CBJ, she was really into it. We did several positions and she enjoyed every minute of the session as she had an orgasm that she managed to get by any means. I liked that and I came into her several minutes after. After a nice conversation, we said goodbye to each other until Sunday. She told me to pick her at noon on Sunday at Zeus and then we would go to Lugano.

Zeus is not a cheap god. A one hour session costed me 450 CHF (almost 300 euros !!!!!!). If I add entry fee plus drinks for me and Leïla, this evening costed me around 400 euros !!!!! I was lucky to find Leïla who gave me a wonderful GFE but the other girls were not very friendly at all and not very smart, they behaved more like hard-core pros. I think I won’t go back to Zeus. German FKKs are definitly more competitive (more to follow)

Dcool1,

I'm so excited to read your report! I really hope you had a great time in Lugano. I want to go back there when it's warm out. Such a beautiful city. I'm sure your body and your wallet are recouperating. My Switzerland/Italy vacation was the most expensive two week vacation I've ever taken. It's sure easy to spend money there huh?!

I can't wait to read your Lugano report. A few dudes from WSG emailed me telling me it was awesome and they didn't know about it. Cheers!

(Message edited by godfather on April 05, 2004)

DCool,
I haven't been to Zeus in almost 2 years but if I remember correctly, the party time deal is that you pay the 300 CH which includes the entrance fee and a chance to take any 3 of the girls working that day, within a 3 hour period or the longer option of any 5 girls over a 5 hour period for 500 CH so it definitely works out better than entance fee + single pops.I was there on a Sun. afternoon which also has the partyTime option. I remember 20 girls on duty including some incredible stunners. All in all I remember it comparing positively to the FKK's on facilities, selection of women, etc. as well as cost- 3 sessions at one of the big3 FKK"s would cost 215 Eur, a little bit mor ethan 300 CH -except of course that the women aren't nude.

Iseeu2,

I'm just curious. How many girls did you end up sessioning with? I'm sure I'll make it back to Switzerland probably this year so I may check it out.

Godfather,
I did the 3 in 3 hours for 300 as I had to get back to the airport to catch a flight.
If you go back to Zurich area you should try Sakura Fantasyland which is about a 10 minute drive from the airport. They have 2-3 times a week an incredible PartyTime with 8 gorgeous women in a special sex playground and you can pop them as many times as you wish. Very classy, including all drinks and food and just really special. I think that this is something you'd like. Check out their website for the days/ time etc.

Iseeu2,

Now party time package in Zeus is 400 CHF on Fridays.
From what I understood if you chose this package, you cannot fuck any girl working that Friday but only certain girls.
I was not impressed by the line up in this club. I didn't see any stunners. Quality was average.
Regarding facilities, FKK World and Oase outclass Zeus IMHO.
Leïla told me that Zeus is facing now tough competition from other clubs in the Zurich area.
I wouldn't mind to pay a visit to some of these clubs one day. Thanks for the tip regarding Sakura.

I'll probably be back to Switzerland later this year so I'll check it out if I have time. I'm not sure the "all the girls you can fuck thingy" is my thing. I CAN go a few rounds in a few hours though so might be worth checking out just to see the set up. Thanks for the tips.

DCool,
Did Leila give you the names of the other clubs in Zurich area that are giving Zeus a run? If there are any others in the Zeus league within a 45 minute travel radius from the city we should know about it. I'll be back in Zurich next month and could check out new places.
Also, I see from their website that they have changed their pricing. I don't remember being there on a Sunday, and I definitely remember being offered a 500 CHF option, which is only available for a mega party now.

(Message edited by iseeu2 on April 10, 2004)

No, she did not give me any names.
I saw tons of night-clubs in the old city which I would consider as tourist traps.
On the outskirts of the city, I saw brothels like "petite fleur" but did not go in. There are really numerous clubs in Zurich. Dont know if they provide same type of equipment as Zeus(sauna, pool, jacuzzis). Godfather'post on Zurich contains a link to a sex portail in SWitzerland and Zurich

FOLLOWING IN GODFATHER'S FOOTSTEPS IN LUGANO (WITH NO LUCK)


Friday at Zeus exceeded my budget so I decided to pass on sex on Saturday. Too bad. I decided to visit Luzern instead. That was a great idea. I did a cruise on the Four provinces Lake. Two wonderful hours. Pure beauty. The day after, I met Leïla at Zeus at noon and we headed to Lugano. She was dressed like a real regazza, a real Italian girl. We chatted all along the drive and it was fun. After Gotthard tunnel, we had lunch in a Mövenpick restaurant. She insisted to pay for coffee, I mean real coffee : Italian espresso. She was right : after you pass Gotthard tunnel, it is still Switzerland but it is an other culture, the Italian flavour. Taste of coffee is totally different. I brought Leïla up to the Italian border at Chiasso and then she took a train to Milano. We said goodbye and I wished her good luck : she is a sweet and nice girl.

Then I went to my hotel, the « Domus », in Lugano (nice, casual, economic hotel and some rooms with lakeview) and started to explore the scene with my car. I found very easily Oceano and Corona bar (Oceano is located around 40 Strada Cantonale in Pambio-Noranco in Fornaci district/Corona bar is on Strada della Curona in Corona district also in Pambio-Noranco). I decided to go to Oceano on this Sunday. Italian TV was broadcasting the soccer match Juventus/Milano AC. My thinking was that the Italian guys would have stayed home in Italy to watch TV. I expected to find Oceano almost empty for a customer’s market. No way ! Tons of guys were watching the match on Oceano’s TV set !!! It was really crowded. Lots, lots of guys. I should have gone then to Corona but I figured that I would have found the same scheme (I was wrong, I knew later that Corona was empty that day and the girls were absolutly bored, not my luck Gsssssh !!!). As far as girls are concerned, Lugano is a Brazilian place. Many Brazilians work there. Most of them are from Italian ascendance coming from Sao Paulo and the Southern States (Florianopolis, Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul). A lot of Italian immigration in these States and the garotas speak Italian. They look more like Europeans. They are very cute and sexy. European classy look plus Brazilian bunda : my favourite cocktail.

So was Raphaëlla, the girl I met in Oceano. Blond hair, gorgeous breast, nice and sensual face. We talked portugues for a moment. We agreed for 150 CHF and, I thought, until I pop. Raphaëlla was very sensual but she was acting more like a showgirl. She was speaking and shouting fake which I do not like. However she gave me great sex : CBJ (mandatory in Lugano), doggy, fantastic « espanhola ». And then came the clash. After 20 mn of hard sex, I was still working with no intention to lose my juice so early. She became then very unhappy and told me that if I am going like this for an other 20 mn round I should pay her right away an other 150 CHF. I would have not mind paying her more for extra time but she showed such a bad attitude that I decided to stop the session and tried an other girl instead. My decision infuriated her. Bad words were said, to my regrets because I like garotas and Brazilians.

That Sunday was not a customer’s day in Oceano. Girls were on the clock and did not want to lose time at all. So many guys downstairs and a lot of action going on. I did not like much Oceano otherways. Too much security also and girls rooms are a little bit depressing, it looked more like a sex factory to me than a night club. Anyway I found later Linda, a tall, nice, blond Hungarian girl who accepted 150 CHF for 30mn to my request. She was very sweet and comprehensive. Very nice CBJ and at last ! a session with no « coïtus interruptus » this time lol. Thank you Linda., you saved my day. Then I was afraid that Corona bar was as disappointing as Oceano (Corona Dayscoming soon).

CORONA DAYS

On Monday I decided to visit Lugano. In the morning I went to the top of the Santa Bre’. This is a mountain overlooking Lugano and there is a train going up there. The view from the top is just amazing. At noon, the sun was gorgeous and you could see the lake and the Alps beyond. There are two restaurants on the Santa Bre’. One was open and I had spaghetti with tomato sauce like I was in Italy. It was absolutely delicious, cheap, simple, really a great moment.

In the afternoon, I visited the city. You feel like you are in Italy. Architecture, stores, streets, everything look Italian but do not forget: you are in Switzerland. So everything is clean, wealthy and in order.

I had dinner in Restaurant Geretta in Paradiso (Via Zorzi 2, 6900 Paradiso, Lugano). Again Italian cooking, and one of the most delicious pizza Capriciosa I ever had. I highly recommend this restaurant. The owner is a Portuguese lady so you can practice your portuguese just before you hit Corona Bar.

The whole atmosphere in Corona is different from Oceano. The last is more like a cheap discotheque and it is darker inside. Corona looks more like an upscale bar and the lighting is better. The other difference is that 70 to 80 percent of the girls in Corona are Brazilian and most of them from the Sao Paulo area. Djezzzz !!! How beautiful they are. Some are really model type !!! The day I entered Corona I decided to visit Sao Paulo for my next trip to Brazil (I only know Rio). They just got this European look plus this sexy, amazing, exciting South American attitude. I was seduced right away. The girls in Corona are more upscale than in Oceano and prices (150 CHF for 30 mn) are the same if not less expansive than Oceano. Moreover I found them more talkative and open. I discussed in portuguese with a couple of them Finally, I went with Kathia, a 22 years smiling brunette with firm breast and body. The session was good, not excellent with GFE, but really worth the money. When I came back to the bar, I got acquainted with a Swiss chap and we had dinner together in downtown Lugano. He told me that all the Night Clubs in Lugano close to the big hotels with these nude models pictures on their doors are just tourists traps, so beware guys !!!! Of course, I decided to spend the rest of my evenings in Corona: not only you can have good sex in this place but you can meet also interesting people.

The next day I visited the Herman Hesse Museum in Montagnola, up in the hills surrounding Lugano. HH was a German writer, the author of « Steppenwolf ». Like many other artists and rich people, he decided to live in this superb region, the « canton » (Swiss name for Province) of Tessin (Tessino in Italian). From Montagnola, you have wonderful views on Lugano and the lake. That was a great walk. Then it was time to hit Corona (around 5 or 6 pm). All the girls were already in. The day before I discussed with a tall blonde Paulista by the name of Graziella. I was attracted by her. She was kind of different: more educated, she seemed to have a different experience and attitude from the other girls. She was not behaving like a pro at all although she kept her distance. I was going to take her but at the end I decided not to. Maybe because I had the intuition that the session wouldn’t be that good. My impression was that Graziella was not very happy with her job. I preferred to pass and instinctively I came back to Kathia. I liked her the day before and she gave me good service again. She told me that she came from Brazil to Lugano for only two weeks. So turnover must be very fast in those Lugano clubs.

The reason I came to Lugano was also because I wanted to pay a visit to the place where my favorite philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, spent many summers and wrote his most famous works like « Also sprach Zarathoustra », etc …In the years 1880/1890, he rented a room in a small hotel in Sils Maria in Switzerland (Engadin Valley near the ski resort of Saint Morritz). The hotel and the room are still there and the entire house has been converted into a museum. As Nietzsche wrote, Sils Maria is where Finland meets Italy. The valley is superb, it is not big, Sils is a nice little village surrounded by a wonderful landscape at about 5000/6000 feet. The light of the sun on the frozen lakes up there is just unbelievable. It took me 3 hours drive each way from Lugano to the Engadin valley. The road along the lake of Como was outstanding. I spent all day Wednesday making this trip. In the evening around 10 pm I went back to Corona to say « Adeus » to the team.

Curiously, on my way to Corona I recognized three of the girls in a restaurant. I thought that maybe it was their day off so I did not worry too much but when I entered Corona it was just full of guys, wall to wall, and almost no girls ! ! ! ! ! Why were they gone ? I figured that maybe the girls disappeared because this group of 20 or 30 Italian guys, who obviously were not part of the elite, refused to pay the asked price after having bargained a lot without success. Or maybe the girls just decided to take altogether a day off. Go figure ! ! !

There was only one girl and she was sitting alone at the bar. She was Romanian and we talked (in english) and laughed together making jokes about this funny situation. Fernanda could not be compared to the Brazilian girls. She was just OK and sweet. I wanted sex and she answered my purpose. The session was nice. I would have preferred to end my stay in Lugano in the arms of a hot, sexy Brazilian garota but sometimes you have to make some compromise in your life. So I left Corona on a strange note when I passed the door for the last time leaving 30 frustrated mean Italian guys behind me and no girls in the place.

CONCLUSION:

Club Zeus near Lucern was very expensive and the talent was average. I would avoid Oceano in Lugano next time: tricky girls, higher prices, depressing atmosphere. But for a first time you can take a look and as turnover amongst the girls is very fast maybe you can get lucky and find some gem. Definitely meet the Paulistas of Corona Bar. They are worth the visit. Some are really awesome and they are funny and interesting but here also turnover is quite big so from one week to another the taste can be different. And above all, as our master Godfather says, do not come here just for the girls. Enjoy the city and the lakes, the mountains, the cooking. Lugano is about 60 miles away from Milano and there are trains almost every hour between the two cities so the lake and this part of Switzerland could be a nice getaway if you are in Milano.

Wow. I went back because I wanted to see if you updated your report. Frankly I'm surprised by your report. I didn't have the same experience as you. Certainly I had more luck than you at Oceano. When I was in Lugano it wasn't crowded at all. Maybe that helped. Also, your comment of (mandatory CBJ) I didn't find true. I think only one of the girls gave me CBJ. The rest gave me BBBJ and very good too. Non of them rushed me and a few sessions were over an hour. Again, maybe it's because it wasn't too busy. I didn't find Oceano to be a "depressing atmosphere" though.

I've been to a lot of places around the world and I wouldn't classify Oceano as "depressing". In fact, several guys from WSG emailed me and posted that they had a great time there so I'm really surprised you didn't have a good time there.

You are right about Corona that there are tons of Brasileras as I first reported. I really don't think Oceano is "dark" either. Unless things drastically changed since last fall, it sounds like you went to a different place. Are you sure you went to Oceano and not the place next door?

Corona had some model hot girls no doubt but I found the girls there more jaded and "professional". Most flat out told me they wouldn't give me the kind of time the girls at Oceano were giving me. I found the girls at Oceano younger and less jaded.

Maybe I just clicked better with the girls I saw but honestly I am surprised at the report. I don't dispute it at all but I encountered an entirely different scene and your report is the first negative one I've heard on Oceano.

I'd gladly go back to Lugano and I will. Not just for the girls but for the beautiful surroundings. That hotel I stayed at was expensive but I highly recommend it as the views from the rooms are amazing.

Sorry you didn't have as much fun in Lugano Dcool1. I'm looking forward to going back there sometime. Good luck.

I was in Oceano for sure.
When I was there it was very, very busy: a sunday night with Juventus/Milano AC on TV that is to say a nightmare (3 or 4 guys for a girl).
I should have gone back to Oceano during the week but I did not like the girls's rooms, all this security process, going outside, meeting the girls behind the building, etc..) maybe I am a little bit difficult when it comes to girls...
Sure I will go back there because also I think that things change very quickly in these Lugano clubs since turnover is huge.
In the meantime I plan to go to Prague in the summer. These Czechs look abolutely hot hot hot!!