Tatiana woke me up once during the night because she wanted to go another round. I can’t believe I had a smokin’ 18-year-old lying next to me, my dick in her hands, asking me to fuck her and I had to think about it! I relented and told her as long as she did all the work. She mounted me and eventually I warmed up to the idea and we proceeded to knock over some more furniture.

At 7:00am I told her I really needed to get some sleep and surprisingly (or not) I was out like a light several minutes later. She let me sleep until noon and then we went at it for the fourth time before taking showers. I forgot to mention ALL sex was covered – even the BJ – she absolutely would not entertain the idea of a BBBJ.

It was getting close to 2pm and I still hadn’t eaten since the meal on the plane the afternoon before. I was starving.

I told her I wanted to go to a typical Colombian restaurant and she said she knew just the place. I also needed to hit an ATM. I slipped 300,000 pesos in her hand and she put it in her purse Thailand-style (without counting it).

There is a bank with an ATM machine adjacent to the Dann Carlton lobby, but it would not read my card. We got into a taxi that took us up 43rd Avenue a bit until we pulled into the parking lot of a semi- open air restaurant called Palos de Moguer. I reiterated that I might not have enough cash for lunch and she said no problem – she had money!

I ordered the mixed grill and a side of arepas and the waiter scolded me for ordering too much food, but I told him I was hungry. Tatiana had some bean soup and some sausages. While we waited for the food, I got to know Tatiana a little more. She had been working at Face Dos for 1 month and was from Cartegena. She wanted to try and make enough money to buy her mother a house. She said the minimum wage in Colombia is 250,000P a month and most jobs pay only 300,000P a month. She said in Colombia you are either rich or poor; there isn’t a middle class.

The food arrived and it was awesome. It was starting to warm up as we were in the sun, and Tatiana asked if I would mind if she took off her denim jacket. There were several tables of well-dressed people near us and I appreciated that she didn’t want to embarrass me by revealing her working-girl clothes. Fuck-em I said. Take off your jacket if you’re hot – I don’t care.

And with that we began to eat.





The meal was just awesome and I’ll never forget their Chorizo. In fact that would become a running joke. Whenever it was mealtime, I would say I want Chorizo.

I asked for the check and was pleasantly surprised that they took American Express. Total price: $25.16

Then something strange happened. She said she was going to go to her apartment and wrote down her phone number with the words “have a good trip” on a piece of paper. Call me when you’re in New York she said. Wow! We were hitting it off so well and I figured the chances of her getting another 300,000P score wasn’t great so I figured she’d want to stay with me and I wouldn’t have a problem with that. I asked her if she was working tonight and she said yes, around 9pm.

I told her maybe I’d see her later, leaving my options open, but I knew a girl like this would be hard to top. We walked to the road and got separate taxis, me opting to go back to the hotel to figure out my next move. A true highlight-reel segment of my hobbying career had come to a close and I left Tatiana feeling bittersweet.

Five minutes later I was at the hotel, figuring out the game plan. After 4 pops in 12 hours I really wasn’t in the mood to go looking for another one. Damn! I should have scheduled a round of golf for this afternoon. What to do, what to do?

I popped my first Viagra of the trip and decided to head over to Loutron, which I had read was an upscale massage parlor/bordello in a residential neighborhood. Armed with the address, I went downstairs and hopped into a taxi. We drove up the mountain a bit and quickly found the street the house was on, but it took a couple of minutes to find the exact address. There’s a solid metal gate at the beginning of the driveway and after a couple of honks on the taxi horn, a plainclothes guard with a pit bull opened the gate and motioned for us to come in. The driver turned around and let me out.




At first glance it really looked like a residential home, replete with a kids’ swing-set in the front yard. The guard point to the entrance and I walked up, where I was greeted by the very friendly Madam. She spoke no English, but I understood that I was to take a seat in the waiting room. She asked if I would like a drink and I ordered a “refresco por favor”. I could see girls in short white doctor’s coats walking around and the house and backyard looked quite upscale.

The Madam came back with a Coke and a menu book, which listed all the services and prices. The least expensive massage with full service was 70,000P for 50 minutes. The most expensive item was 175,000P.

The girls then lined up outside the waiting room and entered one at a time, announced their name, took off the white jacket, turned around and said “Permissio” and then left the room. They were not topless, but rather wore a bikini and high heels.

I’d say there were about 15 girls when I was there at 4:30pm (they are open from 11:00am – 9:00pm) and there were easily 8 that I could do. It was really hard to choose one, but I chose Fernanda – for no particular reason.

The Madam then asked which service I would like and I chose the 130,000P extra sensual something for 75 minutes. I didn’t know exactly what that was, but I figured it would be good.

Fernanda lead me to a sparsely furnished candlelit room, drew the drapes and had me sit on a chair. She then went over to a boom-box and put on a Christina Aguilera CD and performed a three-song strip-tease in front of me. It was pretty good and got me in the mood.

She then told me to lay down on the mattress and gave me a nice oil massage. When it was time to turn over, I was standing at attention and she slipped a condom on and started a CBJ. As I remember it was good but not too long. She then straddled me and the session began in earnest, moving onto several positions. Fernanda was very enthusiastic, but Tatiana was a very hard act to follow.

I surprised myself and came pretty easily and then we went to the shower. I asked if I could take a picture and surprisingly she didn’t have a problem with it.

Photos: Fernanda 10 11

Not knowing the tip structure, I gave her 20,000P and she was very happy. I went into the office to settle the bill and it was 133,000P, the 3,000 being for the Coke. The Madam asked if I needed a taxi and then called one. 10 minutes later she said it was ready and I went outside, but there must have been some miscommunication because the guard was still trying to hail a cab.

After another 10 minutes I decided to walk towards the hotel, sort of knowing where I was. I got to a major intersection and then easily found an empty cab. Instead of going back to the hotel, I asked him to take me to a Centro Commercial. He asked “El Tesoro”? and I said “si”. I remembered reading that the El Tesoro (The Treasure) Mall is the most upscale in Medellin.

We made it to the mall in no time, passed a security checkpoint and I was let out by the entrance. The mall is uniquely designed – it has two symetrical halves that are joined by an open-air area. The stores and clientele are markedly upscale. I really had no shopping in mind, but just walked through the mall, enjoying the people-watching. I hadn’t checked emails and was hoping there would be an internet café and was surprised to find several free internet stations with high-speed access by the movie theatre.

As far as I could tell there was no time limit – but there wasn’t any seating either. You just logged on and surfed. Another knock on the Dann Carlton is no internet save for the business center where there was always someone waiting for one of the three stations to open up and their hours of operation are very limited.

I checked email and CH and then walked around a bit. The mall was filled with good-looking people, hardly anyone alone – either couples or families. The open air portion also has a great view of Medellin



I decided to head back to the hotel and figure out the plan for the evening, even though I knew in the back of my mind I was going back for Tatiana.

Getting a taxi was no problem and we quickly made our way down the mountain. I should say at this point – taxis use a meter and it starts at 700P but the MINIMUM fare is 2,500 (or 2,000 I can’t remember which).

Back at the hotel, I showered and shaved, changing into decent clothes for the evening. I went downstairs at 9:15pm and the security guard said that Luis, the taxi driver from the night before had called him and said if I needed him he could be at the hotel in 10 minutes. I said sure, that’s a good idea and the security guard called Luis. I chatted with the guard, me in my limited Spanish and him in broken English, but it was a nice conversation.

Luis pulled up 10 minutes later and I hopped in. He smiled when I said Face Dos and asked if I was picking up Tatiana. I told him Tatiana or someone else, already trying to soften the blow if she wasn’t there.

It was before 10pm but there were quite a few people lingering about the entrance. There was a group trying to come up with the 5,000P per person cover and the bouncer from the previous night waved me over. I gave him 5,000P and he shook my hand like I was his best friend and then frisked me like I was a terrorist. The two extremes were funny.

I entered and right away I saw the talent was better than the night before. There were three chicas sitting on a couch that immediately got my attention. I walked to the nearest empty table and Tatiana immediately came over, ecstatic to see me. Not wanting to waste any time, I asked her of she wanted to go out and she said let’s go!

I didn’t buy a drink but paid the 100,000P exit fee to the bar. I asked her where she wanted to go and she said I was the boss. I asked if she knew of a good club and she said Mango’s. I had heard that was a good spot so I said let’s go!

She was concerned about her attire, but I told her not to worry about it. We got into the taxi and Luis started driving towards Mango’s. It then occurred to me that she would be much more comfortable if she were properly dressed so I asked if she wanted to swing by her apartment to change. She was ecstatic at the proposition and her apartment wasn’t that far away – somewhere in the 70s. I waited in the car with Luis and made small talk while Tatiana changed. Luis is a really cool guy and unfortunately because of an accident 10 years ago he is paralyzed and has a specially outfitted taxi with hand controls.

Tatiana came down in a nice dress, nothing too fancy, but nice. It was about 11pm and I suggested we get some street food on the way. We stopped at a stand that had hot dogs and grilled chicken. Tatiana opted for the chicken, which came with queso blanco and I had the hot dog. The hot dog came in a hero bread with multiple toppings, like onion, lettuce and mayo and mustard much like a hero sandwich. I remember having something similar in Costa Rica.

Luis didn’t want to eat anything but accepted a soda. Tatiana and I made small talk – I asked her how often she went to Mango’s and she said she had only heard of it, never been. We got back into the taxi and shortly thereafter pulled into the Mango’s parking lot. Luis said he would wait over by the road and Tatiana and I walked towards the entrance. The cover charge is $10,000P each and after I paid I was given another very thorough frisking. They don’t frisk women – only look in their bags.



We made our way into the very big club and sat at a table for two. The place was crowded but not packed. Tatiana asked if we could order Whiskey, so Whiskey it was. A bottle was brought out along with some ice and Red Bulls (or the local equivalent thereof).

We were seated near the center of the club, about 20 yards from the long square bar where various dancers would perform. The music mix was pretty good and the crowd was really into it. About half the crowd was up dancing and the other half was sitting and drinking. We were there about 10 minutes when Tatiana asked me to dance, so I jumped up and we hit the dance floor by the main bar, although many people just dance next to their tables. 15 minutes later I asked for a breather. Man, a week with this girl and I’d take off 20 lbs, between the dancing and the screwing!

I looked around the crowd and was awestruck at the incredible amount of beautiful women here. Just one stunner after another. Most were with dates although there were several tables with groups of women. Still, I think this is a place to bring a date, not find one.

I gave Tatiana a 20,000P note and asked her to have the DJ burn me a CD with his favorite mixes. It was obvious that the crowd was really digging everything he was playing and I read on another board that having a DJs mix back at your hotel will always be well-received by your date.

She went up to the DJ booth and said it would be ready later. Over the next two hours we drank, danced, talked – yes the music wasn’t so loud as to make conversation impossible.
It was a really good time.

I don’t know what time they closed, but I asked for the check at 2:00am. This place isn’t cheap – We had one bottle of Whiskey and several chasers and the bill came to $83.98 – and yes they take American Express & all major credit cards. I asked Tatiana to get the CD and she suddenly became embarrassed and said how stupid she was. Obviously something got lost in the translation, I guess she just gave him the money as a tip. She kept saying how stupid she was and I told her not to worry, she was only a little stupid. Well that got me a friendly (I think) punch and then she was happy again.

We found Luis and headed back to the hotel. The drive wasn’t far, maybe 10 – 15 minutes. I settle up with Luis – and went upstairs with Tatiana. A different front desk clerk was on duty and I avoided the guest surcharge.

We immediately resumed our couch-kissing marathon and basically rolled all over the floor for the next 3 hours. This girl is insatiable, just keeps coming back for more. And I was happy to accommodate her.

Excellent report.

WS, again excellent stuff. I feel like I was there myself. As for the DJ mix, a good friend happens to be a DJ from Colombia. I'll burn you a couple of mixes and send it over.

Smart move on hiring a taxi driver as well. My Americanized Colombian friend even got taken by a taxi driver. They would ask something like, so what way would you prefer to get to your destination. If you couldn't answer it, they would give you a longer route; a bit of a run around to get the meter prices up.

So Wallstreet, how was your salsa?

The problem with latin girls is all like to dance. Since I dont know how to dance, I think that will be a deciding factor when i make first trip. What will it be, south america or cambodia? hmmm Cambodia!

Don't let dancing have an impact on your destination choice! I don't dance, don't enjoy it, and it makes no difference at all. Sure, if you a good at it, you can use it to your advantage. And if you like to dance, you'll love dancing there with the music and the girls.

But if you're doing P4P, it makes no difference what so ever... and if you're doing the nonpro scene it's certainly not required and you can have a blast there without it.

Thanks, guys,

Soc,

I'd love to get a hold of a couple of good Colombian dance mixes. I'll PM my address to you. And yeah, I'd rather stick with one or two taxi drivers and not get the runaround. Although Tatiana was telling me the taxi drivers in Cartegena were notorious for ripping off tourists, but it wasn't bad in Medellin.

WW,

I'm lucky enough to have a couple of Salsa enthusiasts in my office and a three-story club called Remy's right across the street. Remy's has one floor dedicated to Salsa and I learned some moves there. I'm not great, but I'm not an embarrassment on the dancefloor either and Tatiana didn't want to let me sit down.

Just like you don't have to have Spanish to have a good time, you don't have to know how to dance, but having a little of both goes a LONG way with these girls.

Andres B,

I agree with Flhobbyer - if you don't dance that shouldn't rule out Colombia or South America. I still would have had a good time watching everyone else at the clubs and I don't think Tatiana would have been any less passionate with me. It's just gravy if you can dance and enjoy it as well. I saw plenty of guys at the clubs who never went on the dance floor.

Great reading Wallstreet. And the photos are very tastefully done as well.

Salsa dominates Cuban life and culture. I still suck at it, but after several private lessons in the nude, I'm getting better. Anything you can do to make a latinas hips move like helps to get them in the mood.

Speaking of which - have you been salsafucked yet WS?

Wickedwilly, I would agree with FLhobbyer, don't let dancing have an impact on your destination choice.

Some Colombians go to discos and don't dance or just do a few slow ones.

The girls won't make you dance if you don't want to, but you may find it hard to resist dancing with them.

Hunter

WS, great report & pictures for a guy that doesn't speak much spanish, you sure know you to get your point across. Do you think it's possible to contact girls you been with for followup meetings offhours so you don't have to pay the house fee everytime you want to see them again? Or is that not permit by the club/girl?

Wallstreet, great report as usual. 4 pops in 12 hours, man you were going even faster than me and I was taking Cialis way more than I should have and I got hypertension from it even week after I was back in US. I am glad you liked the local food I actually stayed away from anything that was not steaming hot to avoid repeat of Cambodia where I had to spent 10 days in hospital as something did not get along with my stomach, but that was back in 1993. No repeat since then. So Tatiana was from Cartegena, another place I heard so much about and want to visit. Now I have made 2 trips to Cali in the last 2 months so my next one is going to be somewhere else, more than likely to Medellin.

BTW, In Cali the discos I visited both men and women got through frisking. Initially I thought they were looking for weapons but now my Amiga tells me not only they are looking for weapons they are also looking if you brought any alcohol with you and if they find it then they would keep it. So its not only weapons but also alcohol that they are after.

Can't wait to see rest of your report, great job.

JKarp

Slug93,

I was wondering what the protocol was myself - and as it turned out Tatiana stayed with me all four nights, but I only paid the house for the first two nights. She said she was "obligated" to work four nights a week, so I don't know if because she didn't show up to work on Saturday and Sunday those were considered off days.

I was happy not to pay the house for nights 3 and 4, but would have in a hearbeat for that girl. She was that good.


Jkarp,

I'm a Viagra man myself, but I didn't need any with Tatiana - she was that good. I only popped one before going to Loutron. Plus it's really bad mixing Viagra and a certain Colombian product - that mixture can easily cause a heart attack.

I loved the local food - that was one of the highlights of the trip. I'm a big meat eater and man do they have good meat over there. I could go for a mixed grill plate right now!

WS, as you know, I thought some of the steaks I had in Cali were the best, espec. the chain Lenos Y Carbon which served up steaks you'd find at Ruth's Chris or something.

I also found the sex so good and the gyrating of the girls so intense, that even with thicker condoms or even if the girls had kids, it would still not deter me from shooting a load multiple times.

For me, I was successful in avoiding the house fine with one girl by calling the gal directly on their cellphone. My sweetie from Faroan would call in sick and we'd hang out together, usually at a discounted rate.

I'm pretty much a fish and poultry man here in the US. But while I've had a few chicken dishes at Leños & Carbon - their baby beef and filet mignon plates are simply too good even for a non-beef eater to pass up. Extra chimmy-churi please!

Really great how yourself and Xenono give such great details to the various destinations you guys go to and how adventurous your trips are. I have never even heard of Medellin but I have been contemplating going to Cali for a while now...I have already received my tickets to Brazil for November and Columbia might be my next trip in the Winter of 2005. Cute girls with the girl-next-door look.

With that being said, I have to say that I would never in a million years go to a place where sex is as expensive as this place and as soon as you mentioned that both girls insisted on covered BJ's....scratched off the list. If I want to pay that much for pretty girls who give covered BJ's...might as well go to TJ. I have never received a good covered BJ in my life. I'd rather jerk off. The good thing is that you had an amazing session or two or three or four with a hot girl and you didn't mind how much you paid because your trips are short and money is not an option...only good times....hope to see you again sometime.

Wallstreet,

Excellent report. Looking forward to future installments.

Moondog

Blazers - there is plenty of less expensive options in both Cali and Medellin (of the latter I don't know personally) - I think Wallstreet both participated and paid at the top end.

Both cities have lots of houses full of girls where standard pricing for onsite in a nice enough room with clean sheets is 20 minutes for about US$8, 30 for $12, and 60 for $16. BBBJ is close to the norm, and girls rate from 3-7s.

Then there's the next step up... See the Cali thread, Kaliente Club for pricing and photos to get an idea of better quality than the houses yet considerable less than what Wallstreet paid.

My experience in Cali at least was that the top end girls (lasprofessionales) 8s and 9s were into CBJ, but the gals in the houses, and clubs such as Faroan, Floras Frescas offered BBBJ a majority of the time. The pricing that FLhobbyer noted is what I paid also. The lower to medium range gals were most 5s and 6s, but an occassional 8 could be found.

I did not get a chance to try the cheaper houses as most of my p4p action was from Las Profesionales and I paid the prices listed on their web sites. The cheapest session I had was for 100,000 plus 20,000 transportation fee and the session was not as great as others and the girl was not a repeat for me. IMO you just can't compare the quality/prices of Asia with any other part of the world. Asia is cheap and you can find a top model at a decent price whereas rest of the world is not as cheap. Even in Asia the high end models are pretty comparable with high end models in SA, Europe is of course more expensive. From my limited experience in SA I concluded you get what you paid for.

JKarp

Couldn't agree more about the pro cost, you kinda get what you paid for. Maybe a 7 and occasional 8 below market prices every now&then, but 9/10 are going to cost you standard market prices. Everyone that done both pro&non-pro have stated that Colombia is about how easy it is to hook up with hot(8-10) non-pro. Jkarp's last report(great one btw) just help reinforce that conclusion.

Jkarp is right about the top level lookers. I'm willing to pay the premiums for top-flight talent. Asia has quite a bit more of them IMO, especially in LOS. In fact, you can get an absolute stunner ("Superstar") in LOS at any of the massages for about $75.00-$80.00 (U.S.) (3000-3500 baht). In terms of model quality girls, I thought some of the higher end saunas in Macau had a good representation of stunners, but the pricing was high $125-$150 (U.S.)

Blazers I have to agree with the others, Wallstreet was playing at the higher end of the market, there are plenty of cheaper options, though not as cheap as the LOS.

In the LOS to find a 9 it is very easy and very inexspensive compared with Colombia, but you can find plenty of 7s and 8s here for not much more than Thailand, but far better sex. As to your problem about coverd BJs, I have the same problem and virtually every time I have had BBBJs.

I posted the info below on another thread, I am adding my take on the quality of the girls in the looks department in this thread. Some peoples 7s are another 9s, as some people on this board know, I am a very picky, I have only seen a few 10s in my life on my travels.

The good massage parlours like the Loutron, Wallstreet has quoted the prices, the Loutron is the only expensive massage parlour that I have been to and that was only once. I would say 6s to 8s, mostly 7s and 8s, with maybe a 9 sometimes.

The cheap massage parlours prices are roughly as follows, for 20 mins 20,000 pesos for the girl and 15,000 pesos for the house. For 30 mins 30,000 pesos for the girl, 15,000 pesos for the house. For 45 minutes 40,000 pesos for the girl and 20,000 pesos for the house. There are dozens of these places spread over Medellin, I have only been to one about 6 times, but a good friend who researched a lot of them says the prices are pretty standard. I would say 3s to 8s, with a few 7s and 8s spread around.

Expensive casas, the girls go for about 100,000 pesos or more for all night and 50,000 pesos for the house. I would say 6s to 8s, mostly 7s and 8s, with maybe a 9 on occasion.


Never been to the strip clubs.

Pre paids, which I haven't tried are 100,000 pesos or more for all night. I would say 6s to 8s, mostly 7s and 8s, with maybe a 9 on occasion.

Top models are 250,000 pesos to a million pesos for all night, not tried this one either. 8s and 9s.

I have never seen a LDV type place here, there is a street of about 20 cheap bars and a dozen hotels a few minutes behind Mangos in a taxi, sorry I can't remember the name. The street has several hundred cheap hookers, most of them I wouldn't look at twice, but there are a few diamonds in the rough there. I have been there twice and taken two girls for 40,000 pesos for all night. I would not recomend this place until you have found your Colombian legs. I would say 3s to 8s, with a few 7s and 8s spread around.

Hunter

Blazers,

That's one of the many subjective points to the hobby: how much are you willing to pay? Unfortunately most places are not as clear cut as Angeles City, where you pay the BF and then the tip is optional (although you should give something).

Where does one draw the ceiling? $115 for someone who rocked my world is nothing to me, but for some people that's their daily budget, including hotel. Also, when you break it down by the hour, for 12 hours and 4 pops that's under $10 an hour and just over $25 a pop. To me, with someone of Tatiana's quality, that's a bargain that'll make me come back for more (and I did).

I think we look at the economics from two different perspectives. I compare the prices vs. New York prices and say "what a bargain!" You compare the prices vs. PI prices and say "what a rip-off!"

And I totally understand about the CBJ, for you it's a dealbreaker, but for me it was something that was a minor inconvenience. And I'm not downplaying how much I like BBBJ - done right they're better than sex sometimes, but with this girl it didn't matter - there were so many other components that blew my mind.

And also, as others have said here, you can find cheaper options and the occassional diamond in the rough. As you correctly noted, time is an issue with me, so I like to go right to the jewelry store for my diamond - more expensive than going to the mine, but I don't have to sift through any dirt (and ruin my manicure).

Plus, I was able to have actual conversations with this girl, on a level I've never been able to with ANY girl from LOS. In LOS the ones who spoke English tended to be hardened and the ones who didn't speak English - well between that and my total lack of Thai, no real conversation was possible.

That's the thing with Spanish. Between my limited vocabulary, the electronic translator and Tatiana's limited English, we were able to have genuine discourse on politics/economics and other current events. This was very different for me and has me completely reevaluating what GFE is. After Medellin, I don't think I've really ever had a GFE in LOS.

I'm going back over Labor Day and we'll see if this was catching lightening in a bottle or if it's the norm. If it's the norm, my LOS days may be behind me.

Let me add one thing about WS's observation about value per pop that I thought was interesting. Most, if not all, the top-end Colombianas in Cali provided as many "pops" as I could muster, even that gal Dalia let me pop 2x and try for a third (which I must admit I couldn't) within 3 hours. Kelly Gisella, another babe, let me do 2 within two hours. The vast majority of the upper end Colombianas don't seem to adhere to the 1 pop = ST thing. The ST girls at some of the medium end clubs had a set time, so multiple pops were harder, but I guess not impossible if you had the ability.

Blazers, as you know, I'm the biggest LOS booster around, and will always be, but it's always kinda cool to experience a whole new look and a very diferent mongering experience sometimes. That's what makes our hobby so fascinating for me. I'm excited for WS discovering Colombia, especially from NYC. I always admired the motivation of the East coast Hombres who grin and bear 40 hour flights and multiple transfers to get to LOS. If I were still living on the East Coast, I would probably be ranking Colombia higher.

I was very suprised you placed this destination on top after only being there 4 nights and spending two nights with the same girl. I think it has more to do with one particular girl that the area as a whole.

In all honesty...I am not comparing latin girl prices to Asian girl prices. Latin girls are prettier in general and they demand more money as they have a closer access to American tourists and American money. There are also less latin sex workers at each destination and less venues which gives them leverage. I don't expect to pay Asian prices but I make 6 trips a year at 10 days a piece. THat's two months of travel. As a result, I have to spread my resources out a bit and try to keep a budget to around $200 a day or less. I also live in an extremely expensive city so I know how cheap the outside world is by comparison but I like to negotiate with the girls; just not to a point to where it becomes too impersonal and ruins the session.

I think the leverage that all these girls have over you is that you are a generous and kind person and they can smell it. In addition, you dont speak any foreign languages which makes it tought to negotiate without a middleman who wants his cut. If you learn rudimentary Thai and Spanish you will see your sessions get even better than they already are......

BTW, I turned down the offer from the Manhattan Immigration Law firm but I still want to go back there...YOu live in a remarkable city. Hopefully, you can get out to San Diego sometime and I can show you the ropes and we can make a TJ trip. By the way, my Brazil trip is scheduled for Thanksgiving Nov 22-30 and I am thinking of a LOS trip in late September/early October if you're up for it....I am shelving Costa Rica for a while until I hear better reports about the place.

I'll agree with you that putting Medellin at the top of my list after only four nights might not be smart - and I might be eating my words after my Labor Day trip. Who knows what would have happened if I didn't hook up with Tatiana.

That being said, as you know, there are many factors other than session quality that I look for. And I found them all in Medellin.

1. Climate - As much as I love Bangkok, the heat and humidity can be very trying, especially to a big, fat guy like me. The weather in Medellin is PERFECT and by looking at the way many buildings are designed with one wall completely exposed to the outside, you know the climate is consistent.

Winner: Medellin

2. Food - I LOVE Thai food. Have it all the time in New York. But ask me if I'd rather have Thai or a steak at Peter Luger's (or the Old Homestead, Spark's, or Palm) and I'll go for the steak EVERY time. Medellin had the best meat I've ever had outside New York, and I've been dreaming about the Chorizo.

Winner: Tie

3. Travel Time

No non-stop flights to Medellin, but next trip will be 3 hours from NY to Miami and then 3 hours Miami to Medellin. That's the time it takes to get from New York to the West Coast!

Winner: Medellin

4. Accomodations

I love the Bangkok Hotels - I'm a guy who craves luxury. I'll be staying at the InterContinental on Labor Day Weekend, a nice place, but nowhere have I ever found the comnbination of quality/price as Bangkok.

Winner: Bangkok

5. Other activities: Hard to say as I've only spent 4 nights in Medellin, but the clubs I went to more closely resemble New York clubs - except the women are better looking in Medellin and there's no attitude. I found the clubs in Bangkok entertaining in a weird way. Had a good time, but it's like a bad Vegas review. Golfing is cheap in Colombia, will try it in September. The courses are great In Bangkok and empty for the most part - guess why? 100F/90Humidity have anything to do with it? You bet!

Winner: Tie

Infrastructure: This isn't even close. The roads and sidewalks are smooth and don't even get me started about traffic. And the taxi drivers I had in Medellin were nice - really appreciated my business.

Winner: Medellin


So you see from that standpoint, Medellin is the winner, but Bangkok comes in at a close 2nd.

I'm sure Tatiana wasn't the only great P4P girl there. The scene isn't in your face like in LOS, but I don't need my girls spoon-fed to me, I can seek them out. And I'm not really looking to put up big numbers, so if I have 100 girls to choose from that's just as good as 10,000.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if Medellin can live up to my expectations in Sept. I think it will.

I actually speak French fluently, so that helps a little with the Spanish. And now I have a huge incentive to learn it! I really take my hat off to you and those who learned Thai - I don't know how you learn a tonal language where the same word can mean literally five different things depending on which tone you use!

As much as I've heard bad things about TJ, I would like to try it once. I could see zipping out to SD for a weekend - I'd love to hook up with you and do TJ right!

Eventually I'll do Brazil, just don't know when.

Right now, all I can think about is Colombia!

Well let me put another twist. Even though I have been to Colombia twice and have scored both pros and non-pros, I could not find air-tight pussies that you find every where in Asia. Even one of my Amigas who claims she only had sex with 3 guys before me was not as tight as some of the pros in LOS, Philippine, or Cambodia. That was a big surprise for me. Of course, Latin women are a lot more beautiful than their Asian counter parts but stil speaking stricly from the hobby point, Asia beats LA by price, quantity, different venues beside sex, ie, massage, sex shows, culture, etc.

Wallstreet, you and I and even Merlin are new to LA and that is I think what is fascinating to us, or at least to me, that travel is a lot less and quality is better. But as Blazer mentions over a long period of time it is just not cost effective. Even though I am heading there for the third time on September 1.

JKarp

jkarp,

I was waiting to bring up the subject, but the one negative to Tatiana was her far from airtight pussy. I guess that's to be expected from a nympho, but it seems like we've hit upon a trend.

You bring up a good point - Colombia is a new toy and we are still fascinated by it.

I disagree with it not being cost effective, even over a long period of time. $110 for 24 hours of sex is a bargain. I was paying 3,000 baht for long time (also 24 hours) so that works out to $3 an hour as opposed to $4.50 an hour in Medellin. $35 a day will not break my bank.

I also stayed at the Presidente Solitaire in Bangkok, $90 a night. You can get something nice for that in Medellin, though I paid more.

So I'm not buying into the cost-effective arguement. I know Blazers pretty good - his style on hobbying is very different from mine. He'll have 2 girls in bed and be thinking of his next conquest. I used to do that a bit, but I find that I enjoy girls one a time, long-time, rather than threesomes and foursomes.

I guess I'm slowing down a bit, and I'm fine with that. Medellin felt like just the right pace for me. We'll see how long it lasts.

BTW, I booked the flights from NY-Miami-NY. I have a 4 hour layover going (the next flight would have only given me 50 minutes - cutting it too close for an int'l connect) and 90 minutes coming back. My total price was under $254 for EWR-MIA-EWR and $376 MIA-MED-MIA. Not bad. And looking ahead to October, Avianca has a special leaving any day in October and returning any day in Oct. from JFK to MDE for $555. I'm tempted to jump on that right now!

(Message edited by Wallstreet on July 12, 2004)

WS & JKARP, one thing to keep things in perspective on what's important to you as a monger is to make another trip to SEA. You'll now see SEA in a different light. For me, I confirmed that the unlimited venues, the multitudes of willing partners and loads of tight pussies are just too irresistable for me, and that SA is a necessary and enjoyable diversion. But then again, I haven't been to MDE.

It may have been the novelty thing, at least the first trip to Cali or RIO, but I now know that I need to throw in a twist every so often to spice things up-- it's the 180 degree difference in Mongering and girls experience that keeps things cutting edge for me.

jkarp, after reading what you wrote about not finding super tight pussy - i can already know you didn't get to kaliente to sample nicole or angelina. nicole was so tight that doggy-style actually hurt, and b.player thought angelina was the tightest girl he ever sessioned with - and he's a player (if there ever was one!) with over 1,000 sessions at age 40.

FLhobbyer, you are right, I did not get a chance to go to Kaliente club, the first time you know what happened when I tried, and the second time I just did not get a chance as I spent all my time with non-pors and the other 2 must for me when in Cali, Dalia and Giselle. I sure hope the third time is a charm in September, still have not decided if I am going to Cali or Medellin, but will have a ticket to somewhere within a week.

JKarp

FLhobbyer, on a different note, do you know of any Internet cafe around Miami Airport where one can do some work for 5-6 hours?

5-6 hours - that would cost at least $25. Thus, I'd say your best bet is to pay $50 to join AA's lounge for a daypass.

First, check w/ others (CO, Delta, NW, UA) to see if they sell passes - and if you are required to be traveling that day to access the club - maybe they charge less for a day pass.

I can't think of a better option at MIA - there are no laptop lane kind of spots.

Oh, how about joining T-Mobile for wireless network access - my computer has found wireless networks at MIA (although I don't remember what company - Tmobile or other - I wasn't able to join as I'm not a member).

Last, take a taxi to Coral Gables - there are lots of office buildings and you can just find a wireless network.

I was having tire work done on my car the other day in Miami, and I just walked out to the curb and found an outlet, and then searched for a network and found four not password protected.