Just arrived in BKK, the flights were long and the food on Japan Airlines (Tokyo to BKK) sucked! The salad had a horrible smell, like seaweed on the beach! Good thing I grabbed a bite in Tokyo.

First observations:
Dynasty Inn- seems like a half-decent place, about the level of a Motel 6 in the US.

Thai ladies- A little too non-endowed, built kinda straight up and down. No junk in their trunks! (LOL)

Soi Cowboy- Expected more variation in the ladies, mostly spinners (and stick figures) Everybody has their own preferences, but the bee stings and legs that go into their backs (no ass at all) are very common. Some of the girls in the clubs have pretty faces (10-30% roughly IMHO) but no voluptuous Jessica Rabbits here. I know some CHers will be offended, but I would take Adelitas in Tijuana or Papaguyo's in Nuevo Laredo over the pros here. I definitely prefer the Portenas of Buenos Aires, the Calenas and Paisas of Medellin, and the Bar girls of Tijuana to the Thai ladies

The Streets of Bangkok- Three words- Dirty, Stinky, and Dangerous! Nothing like sewer fumes right where they prepare and serve food!

The food- Never order anything with "spicy" in the name. I love hot food especially in Mexico, but this is insanely hot! And the smells of the street vendors food. I have a cast iron stomach and have eaten on the streets of Colombia, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina, but tentacles-on-a-stick, cooked insects, and whole fried birds that stink scare me. And like I said before, "If it don't smell right don't eat it!"

Met a big titted (D-cup)girl at Soi Cowboy last night, (the only one that I have seen thus far) and did a LT for 2500 Baht. Phom was her name. So-So experience. I should have listened to my waitress that said "You like girl weet beeg teet but maybe other girl betta." Had to turn down many flacas approaching me to get an unenthusiatic tetona. Got BBBJ then sex cowgirl style. After a 30 minute nap, I'm ready for more. Phom said "No, want sleep" and I told her to smoke it. I am not paying 2500 for ST performance and sleep, (I was not going to pay for her bad attitude and one shot) so I repeated "Smoke it" and rec'd another BBBJ until CIM (a nice surprise for her) Oh well, it's just the first night. Hey Porker- gimme some leads on the non-implant big-tit girls!

Hey Mequstaba,

Sorry to hear things haven't started as well as you would have liked, but give it a little time - you find some girls that have way more than "bee-stings".

There's more to Bangkok street food than insects and tentacles, though. I've had some incredible satay, great omelettes, soup and noodles. You are right about the spice - I love spicy food, but invariably I'll get a dish that's just too spicy to eat.

Can't disagree with your description of the streets of Bangkok. There's a reason why everyone who works outside wears surgical masks. And the sidewalks were made to break ankles.

I hope you're planning to go down to Pattaya. The smells aren't as bad down there - it's a breath of fresh air compared to Bangkok.

Enjoy your trip!

WS

If you like voluptuous women with junk-in-the-trunk(insert synonym for fat girls here) then Thailand is not for you. You might like the Philippines though as there are a lot of voluptuous(chubby/fat) girls all over the place...especially Angeles City. If you want some girls with meat on their bones, then Mexico and Brazil is the ultimate destination. I disagree about street food in Thailand...the best in the world IMHO. What did you expect in Thailand...big tits and big round asses...who told you that girls like that were in Thailand.

U did know Thailand is asian? Sounds like you went to find a hamlet of Rio chicks.

The food is the best I've ever had
Bangkok can be stinky, but not quite as bad as AC (IMHO)
The girls-- go to pattaya, mucho choice, mucho competition for monger's money.

Be nice and you'll be rewarded.

I love the Thai street food but I am picky as well. I'll have well cooked satay and drink nothing but bottle water and imported beer. Nothing can ruin your experience more than an upset stomach. I eneded spending time in hospital when I ventured out in Cambodia and ate some not so familiar food and since then I make sure food is cooked, utensils are cleaned or I'll just use my hands.

JKarp

Oh Dear, you must REALLY prefer Latin women over Asian if you prefer Tijuana over Thailand. If I may say, I think you may be having "first day, new country" jitters. You're in a new country for the the first time, and you don't know what to expect. It happens to me too. You'll have a better time after you get a feel for the place. I love the street food in Thailand. I have never gotten sick from eating there. I have gotten sick nearly EVERY time I have visited Latin America i.e. two visits to Rio and one to Costa Rica. I'm also a little surprised you felt danger on the streets there. Sure, there are some places where you could get robbed. But I sense there is so much more potential danger in Latin America, including TJ. For the most part, I found Thai people to be quite sweet and helpful. And the girls will go to your hotel all night for the equivalent of $38. That's impossible in Tijuana. My experience has been that "Long Time" in Thailand means once at night and once in the morning. You only get three times if the girl really likes or knows you. Or if she agrees to three times during negotiations. Also, I have found that being nice often gets me good service. I hope things go better for you. You are there during the wet season. If you like the beach and get some good weather, you might try Phuket also.

"My experience has been that "Long Time" in Thailand means once at night and once in the morning."

I don't know where you got your girls but in Thailand for me "Long Time" has universally meant fuck as much as I want, as often as I want, until I can't possibly fuck any more. Maybe I just pick Thai girls good but I can't think of a single exception with a LT girl in Thailand. In fact I find the concept of a LT girl in Thailand objecting to more sex a little unfathomable to me.

Hey guys, thanks for the feedback, but let me clarify a few things.

Blazers- I am not looking for fat girls or their synonyms, I am looking for women with hourglass shapes, voluptuously built. Raquel Welch is an example of a voluptuous woman. I guess you would call her chubby/fat but to some guys well endowed women are sexier. I don't really know how to make this any more clear.
"What did you expect in Thailand...big tits and big round asses...who told you that girls like that were in Thailand." I read reports by Porker and others on CH that had decent results. Big tits, small waists, and round asses (comb. of the 3)are also uncommon in the US (except on hip-hop videos and inner cities, hence the "ghetto booty" tag) also but that doesn't mean I won't look for the type of woman that I desire to be with.

Calif Thaid- I don't think its first day jitters, I LOVED BA and Cali and Cartagena and Medellin when I arrived. The only letdown in Colombia was- the NPs were prettier than the pros in general, but it was easy to meet NPs and hookup. (Pros costed me 28-40 dollars/night, NP's FREE, only dinner & a movie)
I never wrote that I was afraid of the streets here, only the food served near sewer grates and the dirty appearance of the vendors stuff (flies all over the food, dirty buckets, raw meat unrefrigerated). Ok, Ok the ladyboys scare me too (super unattractive, animated, loud and reputed thieves)

I am Sancho- You proved that everybody's experience and norms are different. Thanks!

Megustaba
I have been eating Thai strret food for 20 years now and have never gotten sick- a bit of mild diarrhea rarely but no more than general travel. I have gotten sicker in reataurants in los Angeles than I have eating on the street in LOS. I do not eat in restaurants in Thailand- almost exclusively on the street- including the bug vendors . I am a doc and am fully aware of the potential risks but those risks are not great.
The first minute I was in Thailand on my first trip I was comfortable and felt at home. You just gotta relax and go with the flow. Does not get you anywhere to compare place A with place B.
Do whatever it takes to enjoy the place you're at -- that's what's important.

It's not hard to find perfect B cup tits in Thailand. You'll have to look around in the go gos to find C cups, but they are definitely there. D cups will mean she's probably fat, but there are definitely fat girls in Thailand (I found more than my share.) My advice would be to just keep looking in as many places as possible until you see something you like.

When I was in Pattaya in July, there was some SERIOUS cleavage showing at both Sabai Dee and Sabai Land soapie massage places on Second Road. These were seriously BIG tits. I would also advise any monger used to TJ to head for Soi 6, if only to see the sheer VOLUME of girls available.

Lastly, Epimetheus is still in Thailand, you might want to send him a PM or email and see what he's up to and willing to let you tag along on some of his adventures.

Sancho, different guys do Thailand differently, but I don't think it's controversial to say that one will generally have better mileage with beer bar girls than the typical upscale go go bar girl. That may be what the guy was referring to re: Thai girls reluctant to fuck all night. I know you (and I) prefer the beer bars.

I remember after my first short time session in Thailand, I was wondering what the big deal was about the place. I had just paid ~40 bucks (1000+500 bar fine) for ~an hour with a girl that was decent looking, but she certainly didn't make sparks fly out of my ass (like the AC girls had before I got there) and she also wasn't an uber-hottie.

But the more I thought about it compared to Mexico I started laughing at myself. While the GFE I was used to in the Phils was lacking and I had paid a similar price to what I often paid in Mexico, I DID get a) bbbj b) continued action after round one, though we had only agreed on short time (though I had arranged 2 hours ahead of time) c) DATY d) ANAL e) the girl's attitude was generally very PLEASANT (though not passionate) throughout, and she was very eager to please.

After THAT I had a bad experience with a threesome from a Nana gogo. The bottom line was that I wasn't picking girls very well. I still have this problem a little bit in Thailand when I only focus on looks. Letting them pick ME works a whole lot better.

Wanna see bit tits....look at bahtman's songkran pics...gorgeous girls with C cups and great nipples.

Porker, I think you are right about the upscale go go girls. Actually, come to think of it I have only ever even taken one upscale go go dancer in all of my my trips to Thailand if you can believe that. Although that turned out to be GFE X 110% with a little extra lovin' thrown in on top. Even in the go go's I'm far more likely to walk out with a waitress or a "non-dancer" from the floor. Maybe the key to my success is I rate attitude much higher than looks even though I do have my standards in the looks department too. It certainly helps that I am partial to spinners though. I'll take a 6 with a great attitude over a 9 with a stuck up attitude any day.

I also very much noticed the big titty phenomenon at the Sabisomethingorother places in Pattaya but to me the girls looked a little fat for my tastes. But like everything, it's a matter of taste and they were definitely choosing girls that would appeal to allot of guys.

Megustaba, there are so many thousands of working girls in LOS that the odds are with you that you'll find the body type that you desire. I always find a few of those body types in LOS. In fact, some of the nicer massage places (New Cleopatra, Nataree, Poseiden) have girls segregated into "superstars" who usually have the prettiest faces and nicer, fuller bodies IMO. Moreover, give those little LOS spinners with the tight traps a chance, there's a different type of sexual appeal.

Once again, thanks guys for the input/ info.

Met up with another American tourist as we took the shuttle from Dynasty BKK to the Dynasty Inn Pattaya. After lunch, we strolled down walking street and turned down the famous Soi 6. Morbid curiosity, I guess. Met 2 sisters at the last bar of the block, he took the 27 yr old, I the 20. 350BF + 1000 for the night. A bargain if they are good. After showering got BBBJ and sex, but after 45 mins, I couldn't come, she was not happy, because she couldn't get me to pop. I suggested we go join her sister for a swim in the pool. After returning, we showered again and returned to the bed. I sucked her nipples and she acted shy to cover them up. She was starting to get a little cold, and I at least wanted one nut before she left, so I asked for BJ. She gave decent head w CIM. But afterwards, all she wanted to do was watch Thai TV. I asked her "You don't seem happy, unlike earlier (when she was more playful) She only said "me OK", but she was cold as a dead fish. No fun, passion, playfulness. I asked her if she wanted to go, after a long pause she said "No" but the long pause and cold demeanor was not my cup of tea, so I told her she should go, paid her and kissed hergoodbye.

Met a sweet girl from Biergarten Saturday 27, nice face and nicer attitude. (Looked filipino or Latina) Agreed to 1000 ST but she stayed 3 hours gave a great massage, and before she left wanted me to CIM. Of course I obliged (BJ a little toothy though) and I gave her a good 700 Bt tip.

Wallstreet, you were right, Pattaya seems to be far better in appearance, and much more laid-back.

Read your trip report with great interest. It's too bad you don't get chubby girls there, otherwise I'd be enroute ASAP. I've never heard of an overweight Thai girl, but I am told they do exist in the Philippines.

Is it easy to seek out the mongeing scene there? What I mean is, does the "red light" district exist, or can you quite literally proposition a girl on the streets or in bars?

Methinks there are some unrealistic expectations at play here.
I mean, for less than 40 bucks, the girl went back to your hotel, was willing to do anything (sexually) you wanted, albeit with less enthusiasm than you'd like, and took your load in her mouth.
In sum, she basically risked her life and health for 40 bucks. And because she didn't enjoy it, or try to make you think that you were anything more than a john, it was disappointing.
Let's get real guys, these girls are hookers and we are their tricks! If now and again they happen to enjoy themselves with us--or convince us they are turned on, that is just icing on the cake.

Megustaba,

Bangkok and Pattaya have two totally different vibes - and a lot of guys prefer Pattaya. Me, I've always been a Bangkok guy, but in reading your past trip reports and seeing what your preferences were, I figured you'd have a much better time in Pattaya.

I will disagree with you in that you said 350BF and 1,000 for the whole night is a bargain, if they are good. I'd say that's a bargain even if they're not so good. That's $33 for the whole night. It's hard to tell what the girl is going to be like, but it sounds like you got your money's worth - though it could've been better.

Masterbates - The whole of Pattaya is the red-light district. Pretty much every girl is working. I've personally never been in a town that is more "in-your-face-action". If you don't score within 5 minutes of entering Pattaya, it's because you're waiting for something better to come along.

Zuperfly,

While in theory the statement "these girls are hookers and we are their tricks" is true, a Thai girl would be greatly offended by that statement. They don't consider themselves hookers - a lot of them don't even mention the financial part and they rarely count the money when you give it to them. They consider themselves to be your girlfriend for the night. So an expectation for her to "try to make you think that you were anything more than a john" is not out of line. In fact it's what we've come to expect from Thailand and why we go back again and again.

Dude~

Your killing me with the first day report. I bet if you are in pattaya and take a seat along walking street somewhere, you will see quite a few girls with nice asses and a decent set of tits. Fucking hell, try happy a go go, check out the show at living dolls 2 (not the dollhouse and not living dolls) Living Dolls 2. The show starts and ten oclock, and if you can't find a showgirl in there that rocks your boat then you just don't like asian chicks. Dont get me wrong, thats cool with me, because as the story goes then there's more for me. Peppermint a go go after midnight, then over to marine 2 about 1 or so, then there's jp bar (if you can find it) Fuck i am giving you the good tips here cause you were running down my country and I can't abide you having a shitty time. Try going to atlantic bar on the second road down by soi 2 and you can try the buffalo bar on the third road as well. Hire a motorscooter for 120 baht a day. Oh, and 2500 baht for the broad in bangkok.... you gave her too much. Alot of guys don't like to get a tounge whipping for giving the girls too much, and i know i say it all the time, but fucking A, 2000 baht long time is more than enough, and don't fucking talk about money with the women. If they want to talk money before service than find one who wants to fuck and talk about money after. Its up to you how much you give them, not up to them. If more guys would play a bit of hardball with these bitches then they would quit expecting so much. Its a buyers market the last time i checked. And, I know i am running it here, but you opened the door: The food is great here, and I can honestly say tj is way more fucked up than bangkok. I mean you have mbk center, the emporium, robinsons dept store, chatuchak market, the skytrain, 1 dollar cab rides all day long. Not to mention safety (unless your a complete dumbshit about street sense) You run it about tentacles and insects, but fail to mention the best pad thai (outside the bus stop bar on soi 4) in thailand, fresh fruit for 25 cents, sum tom, tum yung goong, masaman gai, kow pad boo, various forms of plaa, nua, moo and gai. I am home in the US for three monts and I miss the food the most. There's no waY i would eat on the street in TJ but in bangkok I eat almost everything. Get back to me if you want, or if you can stand a second trip I will give you a guided fucking tour.

(Message edited by zuperfly on August 24, 2004)

In 4 trips to Thailand I have never once paid a girl more than 1500 Baht for long time. In fact more often than not I payed 1000 Baht in Pattaya. 1500 was in Bangkok. All the girls seemed very happy and all of them made me very happy. I can honestly say I never had one single bad session in Thailand, ever, except one hand job from a foot massage girl that turned ugly but she wasn't really a pro. For bar girls I am quite literally batting 100% extreme GFE so far. Those are phenomenal statistics. I really get almost confused when I hear guys reporting otherwise. I wonder how could such a thing happen. It seems almost impossible to me.

Zuperfly

I admit that I am spoiled by American/Latina women. Women that give you sex for free because they want to make you theirs. And 40 dollars is nothing to us, but 1600 baht is more than the average Thai man earns in a week, some 2 weeks.(One that supports a family and could never afford these girls)

IronmanX- Sorry but I am not impressed w/C cups. I don't consider these as big tits. I usually date women in the US with 40-48 inch chests, 25-30 in. waists, and 40-42 in asses. Ultravoluptuous albeit rare. Naturally well endowed women are not just in Juggs or Gent mags, they are in many inner-cities like mine, Detroit. Unfortunately, for White guys, it is very dangerous (for Black guys too!) and not many Black women are after White guys in the US, unlike the Carribean and SA

"I usually date women in the US with 40-48 inch chests, 25-30 in. waists, and 40-42 in asses."

If that's the case, you are definitely trolling in the wrong part of the world. Asia is not the place for you. You usually date the type of woman that I run like hell from!

Murasaki

Are you sure that we are talking about the same thing? Women built like Charo/ Pamela Anderson/ Raquel Welch are not chasing guys around the US, unless you look like Brad Pitt

Charo and Raquel Welch are collecting social security and Pamela Anderson has a 33 inch ass not 40-48.

Yup, I'm into the slender build, M. Any measurement that begins with a "4" is instant disqualification in my book.