I know I am going to catch a lot of flaming for this but- I tried Sabai Dee, Sabai Land and Sabai Room.
They are all 1600 now, and I wasn't going to argue over 100 baht. Selected a C (in bra seemed like a D) cupper #167 in Sabai Room. After reading reports, I had to try a soapie. Took a monger friend, we made selections and went. Bad sign #1. Room was kind of dingy and stunk, but she sprayed it. Bad sign #2- Man comes in for drink orders, & after I become undressed returns. I look for money 50 BT charge, and find 100 Bt. Girl says "give him tip" of 50 Bt. Its nothing (1.20) but, I like to decide for myself
BS #3 She does not want me to touch her nips in the bath. Get my soapie (OK, but not erotic to me) and she pulls out condom for BJ. I let her know I "no like condom for BJ" She wants tip, (there is no neg. needed if you pay all inc price. I say I need to talk to Mamasan. "OK little bit" As far as sex, after 2-3 mins, she complains of my "Big cock" and asks "Why you no come yet? I feel pretty unsatisfied and gave her the old grudgefuck for 5 mins and let her know that I am not happy w/her performance (throughout) I dress after 55 mins, & she asks "You no tell Mamasan?" I assured her I was talking to Mamasan about her asking for tips & attitude. When I return to bar, I let them know without seeming too angry that I was unsatisfied. The waitress (pushy earlier) said she will pick for me next time, and the manager assured me that next time would be better. I laughed, and said OK, and left. My friend had a terrible experience too, and he had 5 women so far that were good for him. He said that he had bad vibes (hindsight) and felt that Sabai Dee was better, and the 500Bt beach girl was way better. No pushy waitresses ("You pick now") Classier, more upscale.
What kills me is that Thai construction workers get 150 Baht a day for grueling work, and the Thai women and vendors seem to see the Falang as Big plump luscious pigs on a spit waiting to be taken. No wonder the Thai common men hate us. The price structures assume you are stupid (Like "these idiots will pay a fortune for a T shirt, luggage clothing, women, etc.") Not that this doesn't happen elsewhere, but it is to the extreme here. I would have to be an idiot to think their "genuine Versace/Boss/Cardin" merchandise is real. I try to keep perspective in all of this, but when they yell "Hello handsome man" or pull me in their bars to buy drinks I feel like a "mark" or a big fat juicy Falang pig ready to be fleeced/consumed. No offense to the Thai fans, just not for me. The women, the food, culture (where lying is not seen as lying, and if you overpay, they don't tell you otherwise, just another big bite of delicious Falang on a spit) are not to my taste. I have seen guys unhappy in Buenos Aires (my heaven) but they could not speak Spanish, and were lost alone trying to get directions in English, and talking to girls. To those that like it in Thailand, more power to you. For me, I was glad to see the other side of the world and chalk it up to experience. Like seeing a movie that friends recommend, but after viewing it, you found it was not to your taste. At least I tried it before I formed an opinion of it.

On the other hand, Thai massages are great and cheap, and I met a NP masseuse that I like. Not gorgeous, but sweet, friendly, playful, and nice. She said that she likes me but cannot go with me to the beach because she has to work. I like her for her personality, as opposed to the mercenary "Hello handsome man" types that like Falang pork.

I tried walking street at night, but the Go-Go girls in the 3-4 bars seemed like detached robots. I told my friend "Hey look, they're doing the robot!"

I personally feel that I get better sex from my American girlfriends than the Thai. Instead of "why haven't you come yet" they say "How soon can you do it again?" We have a running joke of " In 15 minutes" (my reply) I know I must be the anomalie, but I can get much better experiences at home or SA. But at least I tried something different, and can say "been there, done that". Sorry that your feelings are hurt, try to understand that everybody does not like what you do, that does not make them stupid, of bad taste, or unappreciative.

I would never come to Thailand again, unless they moved it to Ohio (1 hour from me)

LET THE FLAMES BEGIN!!!!!!

Megustaba,

A person likes what he likes - that shouldn't hurt anyone's feelings.

That being said, most people who've had the fortune of being in Thailand will not understand how it compares disfavorably to Detroit, Land of 1,000 Fires.

I envy you - and I'm not kidding. You are one of the very few people who prefers American pussy to Thai pussy. At least you don't have to get on a 20-hour flight to get what you want. You got it going on in your own backyard.

Megustaba, you don't have to anticipate flames here, most SEA guys are real open minded and will respect your opinions. At least you've been there, and done that, and can give us an informed, rationale explanation of why you don't like it there.

I often wonder why it has to be that a guy has to like either Asian girls or Latina girls. I don't think it's mutually exclusive, I'm deeply attracted to beautiful women of both types (all types actually).

Moreover, I can't help but believe that you had a string of bad luck with the girls, waitresses, etc. It's inevitable that you'll come across a bitch, no matter where you go, I've also had grudge fucks in RIO, Costa Rica, TJ and Colombia. By and large, everyone here will have one or two bad experiences, but in the grand scheme of things, if everyone was having these kinds of bad experiences on trips, you have to then wonder why so many guys keep going back to LOS over and over again. I can tell you that the vast majority of my experiences in LOS have been pleasant.

Megustaba,

Perhaps it's just cuz we're all wired different. I've had my share of duds at many locations, but by and large, my time in LoS does nothing but bring a silly grin on my face. Saibee Dee IMHO is the nicest soapy in Pattaya and I've always had EXCELLENT service-- leaving like I was floating on cloud nine and wearing that shit eatin grin for the rest of the day. For me it's a religous experience and good for the soul.


"What kills me is that Thai construction workers get 150 Baht a day for grueling work, and the Thai women and vendors seem to see the Falang as Big plump luscious pigs on a spit waiting to be taken. No wonder the Thai common men hate us."


I'm sorry, but I must ask, did you just take off the blindfolds? SPs are pretty damn cheap in Thailand and you can get get by very inexpensive with hotels, food, clothes, shopping , etc.

Comparing what Falangs pay bar girls to what a construction gets paid in a 3rd world country seems dumb to say the least. How much do grunts make in BA? How much do you pay SPs? You point to the USA, hmmm so going down to the local meat factory and paying 8 bucks for a bud light, and 20 bucks for a 1 song air dance isn't being taken advantage of? Let's see 1 hour of that @ 2 beers and w/ a 6min/av p/song, 10 songs=hr= 2 beers + 10 songs = 216USD + tips. Compare that to a McD's worker who makes 6.50/hr. Unimaginable. Bring out the spit.


Anyway, sorry to hear you didn't have a grand ole time, but different strokes for different folks. May your future pastures be greener, wherever they may lie.

cheers,

DM

Man, sounds like you need to go to Angeles City! You'll LIKE the prices there. Well, you'll prob'ly like the prices in Cambodia too, from what I hear on this site.

When Mr.Happppppppppy took digs at AC on the Asia chat board, he got a lot of AMEN, BROTHERS. While I'm not willing to go that far here (I actually LIKE Thailand), I can understand what you're saying.

I didn't have the greatest time when I visited one of the Pattaya Sabai-something soapie MP's, and YEAH, for what I GOT, I thought it overpriced. The chick I picked (and I was warned about her ahead of time by Epimetheus) seemed to me to have studied for her 'cinco mas' Ph.D in the TJ alley, as she was a money-grubbing cunt the entire time I was in the room with her. Of course I have my OWN Ph.D in dealing with moneygrubbing cunts, and thanks to Epi's pre-briefing I was able to manage a good time with her (#222, check the photos here).

My particular experience has been that Thai chicks are FAAAAR too often just interested in the baht where PI chicks make me beLIEVE that the GFE illusion they are spinning is true. And as I'm not a rookie at this stuff and PI chicks are SHITTY actresses, I tend to buy the illusion there much more than in Thailand.

Others prefer speaking in tongues and higher class hospitals and are seeking the girls that look the most waif-like for their destination of choice to park their peckers. To each their own.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Methinks Megustaba may well be Bammer !!



Seriously I do not think you can compare sex with girlfriends to sex with pros as you are doing. A better comparison would be sex with hookers from Detroit vs the bar girls of Thailand. I cannot believe it would be even a close call.
In 20 years of LOS I can recall extremely few attitudes such as you encountered. However I am very selective and talk to the girl for quite some time before laying out the barfine. The exception is the soapie where you are choosing looks primarily. The pooying who smiles and waves at you the most in the fishbowl is not always the one who gives a crap about being with you back in the room. One big reason I rarely go to soapies. Much bigger crapshoot , but even there it is rare to get a poor attitude in my experience.

The thought crossed my mind. According to calender, he's in Pattaya for the next 4 or so days. Anyone local to show him around? Either he's got terrible luck or he ain't there.

-DM

KM, exactly how long have you been MARRIED, again? Maybe this is the NEW Thailand? You've as much as admitted that the soapies are as familiar to you as Detroit hookers...

I'm seeing a trend here. Porker places a high priority on big titties, complains Thai girls are to worried about Baht and don't give good GFE like Filipinas. Megustaba places a high priority on big titties, get's consistently bad service. Maybe big tittie Thai girls are the problem. The spinners always consistently treat me like a king, act like they love me more than anyone on the planet and rarely ever even mention money or count it or even look at it when I hand it to them. Even fairly high volume, hard core, short time girls do a passable GFE and never push to hard for money. I'm thinking we go for two totally different classes of ladies because our experiences are so consistently contrary. I'll never criticize anyones taste in women though. Thai chicks are admittedly deficient in the tittie department. So if that is a major priority, Thailand is probably not you place. No flames here. Maybe you should try one girl where you let someone else pick her for you wether she is you type or not. You might not get the looks you want doing it that way but I bet you might get some good service.

Please don't get me wrong: there are a TON of beautiful, sweet girls in both Bangkok and Pattaya, girls that are very eager to please, and for not a lot of money. I have also found what seems to be more than my share of bad lays, greedy girls, and borderline scammers, and it rarely has anything to do with big tits (though it's an interesting theory). Maybe it's just ME, maybe I CAN'T pick them very well -- this was certainly obvious on my first trip to Thailand last summer. I DO know that if I get a bad one, I go find a better one the next time, and it is quite rare to get two bad lays in a row.

I've probably done a hundred or so sessions in Thailand. I can't remember any horrible sessions, really bad lays or scammers (Although I'm sure I've had a few, none really stand out to me now).

I've had my share of soapy scammers, but those were the papasans.

I honestly think the people that consistently have bad sessions in Thailand have them because of the attitude they project to the ladies. They get sized up.

Act you like have been there before and know the score. Don't discuss money beforehand and be respectful to the ladies. That's all it usually takes for me.

Hmmm, no kissing, no BJ, covered BJ... All things you've reported about, yes? Maybe our definitions about bad sex differ.

Maybe you didn't project the right attitude in those situation. Or ran out of vigel or something...

I guess so. Those are all components to an overall experience. A covered BJ does not a bad session make although it certainly does reduce the session quality.

I can't recall off the top of my head any “no-kissing” ladies in Thailand. There were quite a few in Hong Kong though.

I know I've had my share of CBJ's in the soapies for sure, but again, that doesn't constitute a bad or horrible session for me if other components are there. So if that is bad sex for you, so be it.

Re-reading my post I guess the Bangkok Cozy lady on the last trip was easily one of the worst sessions I've had in Thailand. The Nataree session was pretty average. I guess I don't dwell though and move on quickly, easily forgetting bad sessions.

It also doesn't address the others issues that you have brought up like excessive tip pressure, taxi money, complaints, overall bad attitudes, etc which I can't recall ever experiencing an excessive or annoying amount.

I guess the choice for you is clear. But I find the women of Thailand much more attractive than the Filipinas in Angeles and the session quality is about the same for me. The only thing PI beats Thailand hands down on is price.

(Message edited by Xenono on August 26, 2004)

Xenono

I expected some to say this- "I had great experiences, it must be your attitude" I have never had any problems with my attitude or success w NP's in the US, Argentina, or Colombia. I treat the girls like anywhere else, politely, open doors, smile (especially here) offer drinks, and conduct myself like a gentleman. I understand culture is different here, and I read "Culture Shock:" a guide to Thai culture before I left. I have a friend now that has hooked me up with a lot of inside advantages, and is sweet. Good sex, but not exceptional. Also a D cupper, so I'm happy.

Khun Mor-
I can't compare the exceptionally few hookers in Detroit w the game here, never had one. The streetwalkers are crackheads, the escorts expensive and hit-or-miss (from reports, never tried either + it is considered criminal)

I am sancho
Could be right about correlation of D cups and attitude, but I have one now that I met in a bar on Beach rd. She is stacked, but dark so she is considered less than premium stock here. But the tourists are gawking and staring at her chest as we walk around, so she must not be too bad!

Don Marco

I couldn't imagine going to a titty bar in the US. I agree, a monumental waste of money and time. I can't even see the relation, imaginary sex to real sex. Like comparing phone sex in the US to sex services here. Apples and Oranges!

MGBA, I don't think Xen's comment was directed towards any bad attitude on your part, but rather that they may size you up as a newbie and think they can pull stuff on you. Something I have mentioned before about talking money before a session is also oft-criticized by people with more Thailand experience than I have, though I have been burned both ways, so I'm still kind of iffy about that whole subject.

Xen, maybe bad sex was a bad choice of words, but IMO, a covered BJ is the ultimate move of a PRO, and one of the great things about Asia, for me, is at least the ilLUSION that it's not just about money. In AC that illusion for me is much more real, and in Thailand it's often very in your face that it's all about $$. And yeah, the cheap part ahbout AC helps too!

I do think that the ladies of AC seem to be much more sweet and innocent (and less experienced, which brings up a whole other set of issues) than the ladies of Thailand. That probably ties into your comment about the illusion of it not just being about money.

That component isn't a major part of it for me though. It is a non-factor and not something I contemplate or think about.

I may be recalling this incorrectly and I would have to re-read all my posts on Thailand to confirm, but I can't ever recall being burned because I didn't get a firm price quote before the sex.

I know I've never been comfortable doing it, but I always seem to pull it off in Thailand. I know I didn't have any problems with it on my last trip, but I also usually pay 1500 ST whereas I think you pay less so maybe that is the difference as well. But then again I think you are mostly a beer bar and freelancer guy and I am more a soapy (set price) and Go-Go guy.

Ah the differences...

(Message edited by Xenono on August 26, 2004)

Megustaba: That's exactly my point. When comparing apples to apples (i.e gogo vs gogo or provider vs provider across countries), Thailand is a hardly a rip-off in relative terms. The standard of living in Thailand (per capita income) is on par with Columbia. Price wise, SPs are much cheaper in Pattaya, therefore a better value all other things being considered equal (debatable)). This was solely my response to your comment about the wage disparity in Thailand and the fact you felt the girls were raking you over the coals-- nothing more.


Xen/Porker, We'll settle this argument in my next trip report "PI, 2004-- the No Spin Zone." Lately, the mongering world is going to shit in SEA if you read a lot of posts. I'm going back and making the rounds with a carefully eye. Besides fucking my brains out, I will be out to compare and contrast the scene vs. past year/s. The question remains-- has the scene changed, the monger, or neither? Stay tuned over the coming months.


Regarding the debate between u 2 (xen/pork).... Pork if AC raised LT rates to 3500 peso a day-- how long do you think they would stay in business? Well that's what every monger here is willing to pay in thailand for the girls... I LOVE the girls of PI, but the only reason AC exists is due to pricing and girl density. In every other category it pales in comparision.

Paying after should not do anything to attitude in any way, one way or another, unless, like I said, somehow one can 'radiate' cheapness (or generosity). I don't necessarily negotiate with girls in Thailand, just try to get a ballpark figure and some idea whether they're planning to stay awhile or just give one pop. This doesn't work particularly well for me, though, so I'm certainly open to trying new things. Another thing I like about AC -- YOU generally decide how long the girl stays and there's little mystery involved.

1500 standard tip on top of a soapie price seems excessive, especially when it's not pre-negotiated. I generally tip 1K for short time for beer bar girls in BKK, freelancers in BKK, 1500 long time for beer bar girls, and have never had a go go girl long time (in BKK). The majority haven't had a problem with those amounts, but as I've mentioned in a post on the Asia chat board, some do, or whine about getting a little more -- generally the iffy performers in the first place.

You know what. I think I need to amend that last comment about the illusion of it not being about money and that being a non factor for me.

I must like the illusion of total GFE and it not being about money for sure. I guess that is what originally drew me to Thailand. Well that, hot women, better sessions and cheap sex. But I like the better sessions in Thailand to those of say, TJ, even if they don’t include the complete and total GFE and money illusion. It can still be part GFE for me even if there is no doubt that I'm paying for it and she is a pro. Maybe I am just weird about that though. Although I don't really recall this ever being "in my face" while in Thailand.

I tend to focus on the overall session quality, the time I spent with her, services provided, etc when judging GFE status. But now that gets into that arguement about what GFE actually is.

I guess the weight I place the specific money illusion part of it may not be as much as some others.

(Message edited by Xenono on August 26, 2004)

You misunderstood or I wasn't clear about it in my post. I never tip on top of price in the soapies. In fact, I generally never tip in the soapies at all. I usually just pay the standard price to the desk. I agree tipping 1500 on top of a 1500-2000 soapie would be excessive!

(Message edited by Xenono on August 26, 2004)

Pork, I basically have the same approach. In AC I figure on 1000p for LT and in Pattaya 1500bt/LT. I stick primarily with go-go girls at both locations-- I'm not a beer bar type of guy unless it's inbetween massages during the day. I rarely discuss money in either place unless its to do a quick sanity check-- e.g. 1500bt-- LT? I just concentrate on having fun and finding the gal that I have good chemistry with. My chemistry tactics have worked well overall-- I end up with a GFE around 97% of the time. Once in a while I end up with a gal who is a dud as far as her performance, but there was something there to light that spark and we usually end up having a good time regardless.

As for soapie pricing-- I stick to Saibee Dee and pay the 1500 all inclusive fee. If the girl give's me that "cloud 9" feeling I mentioned, I toss her anywhere from a 200-500bt tip. I never say a word, but in every instance I
have left with that feeling and have tipped them. I have never been rushed, always had BBBJ, and couldn't ask for better screwing and massage. In general, I find 1500bt for a couple hours at a soapie place a wonderful bargain considering the selection and service.

I tend to tip well for good service and I would agree that tipping 1,500 baht at a soapie is excessive. I tip 500 for good service and 1,000 for great service.

Xen, I'm a little surprised you don't tip at all in the soapies - or am I misreading the post? Because it says "I never tip" in one sentence and then "I generally never tip" in the next.

Even if you get incredible service, you don't duke? Reason why is think tipping is the norm is because at my second Bangkok Cozy session, the girl was looking through her purse for a pen and pulled out a 100 baht note, saying casually "my tip from last customer" - a Thai guy who had just beaten me to the fishbowl. And Thai's aren't known for being tippers, but this guy came up with 100.

I guess, as with most things in Thailand: up to you!

WS,

I wrote the never sentence, thought about it and then wrote the generally sentence. I meant to go back and delete the never sentence and then remove the “in fact” from the generally one, but I was getting ready to do other things and it got overlooked.

To clarify, I don't usually tip at soapies and I if I do it certainly is not 1500 baht. I don’t think I’ve been confronted about it, but it is just not something I usually do. I don’t think I tipped at soapies during my last trip.

(Message edited by Xenono on August 26, 2004)

Porker

I am not married and still do a considerable amount of hobbying when I'm in Thailand. Da has her business to run and is not with me the entire time I'm there. She is back and forth to Chaiyapoom on her tour bus. Besides it's only been 2 years since I met her. Are you trying to tell me to shut up because I do not know WTF I'm talking about ?
I'm puzzled as to why you have this obsession to denigrate Thailand. If it's that bad - just stop going there.
I said I rarely did soapies-- that's a relative term, as I prefer the go gos and bar beer scene with the ability to get to know the pooying first. However,I'm sure I've been in soapies more often than 95% of the posters on this board over the years.
I'll readily admit the " NEW " Thailand is not what the old one was , but it's still pretty fuckin great , and it's nowhere near what you're painting it to be.

I'm here in Pattaya if you wanna hook up: 06.071.2104

E

I wasnt planning on hitting any place other than Pattaya when i go in December, but i just may have to take a tour of Chaiyapoom now !!! I wonder how many rides on that bus i would have to take to get into Da's drawers?

Travis -- LOL !
Nothing personal but you could charter the bus for a month and still be out of luck. Sorry.

BTW -- Her father drives the bus and he likes me a lot, so you may be in for more trouble than you thought.

I tend to agree with Xen here. I have had many, many sessions in LOS. They were not all perfect, but I have to stretch the memory to remember many disasters. In general, I get a less pro attitutude than in Europe, 90% of the time I get BBBJ, 75% kissing and at least a good session, with a great chance of a very good one.

As to the question of attitude affecting the performance of the girl it is just one part of the equation. I think a good attitude helps, but there are many other factors involved too. Personally I think taking care in choosing your girl matters more than anything, wherever you are. Experience helps here a lot, although it is far from a precise science.

What I am sure is that with far less effort than most other places you can be assured of a good session and value for your buck in LOS. If you do not get that then something is wrong somewhere.

Khun-- does Da have a twin sister that needs some lovin' ... for a night?

"Interviewing" a girl is important IMO, but so is working her over with choice Thai phrases to let her know how pretty she is and sexy she is. Go-gos are easy to pull a girl out of the lineup to interview and inundate her with praises, they love that, and if the chemistry is not right or she's not responsive, then send her back.

I also make it a point to talk to the mamasans/papasans at the go-gos or soapies and they rarely steered me wrong. If you have good rapport with these gatekeepers, they will be the source of good info.

It's also possible to do this at the soapies. In fact, you can have the papasan/mamasan pull a girl out of the fishbowl or Superstar seating area and talk with them at your table or sofa to see if you click. I often do this in Sabai Dee (lots of tables around) and BKK massages and can't recall having a truly bad session recently (a few my first few trips). Beer Bars are the easiest to talk up the girls before taking them out. It's not foolproof, but like anything else, G2 Intel on a girl is key.




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Don Marco Not a twin but she does have a younger sister- just turned 19 who is gorgeous.

Also this trip Da tells me I get to meet her cousin who was runner up in Miss Thailand contest a few years ago. According to Da she is extremely beautiful-- gotta bring my camera. I just found out about this hidden treasure a couple of days ago when we were making plans for October. Da says her cousin is looking for a farang boyfriend so I am sworn to be on my best behavior. A few wrong looks and I could be missing something in the morning. I'll drop your name in the conversation. Any bait I can use for you ?-- Rich,, good looking, jai dee, all of the above ??

All the above and "pom sot." Well don't lay it on too heavy, she's laugh me outa town


Both of 'em sound awesome... phew. I better start limbering up now in preparation!

That does it, I'm rebooking and heading straight to Bangkok. Why waste my time with old lovers in the PI!?



-dm

Fellas~

I have read wise and unwise, but we all abide and play and live by the rule "up to us". I have had few bad times in pattaya, bangkok, cambodia and laos. Maybe I am lucky, maybe i give out too much money, maybe i have good karma, maybe i just absolutely love a good time and will turn a bad time into a good time with my outgoing and extroverted attitude. All I can say is I wish i could have been there, I tried to steer you in the right direction in my previous post, but somehow you read into my message and thought somewhere it contained the word -c-cup- which it doesn't, so I can't help but think that you wern't paying attention, or maybe you were slightly confused with all the good hearted banter flying across the chat board. Whatever the case, I am sorry you had a rotten time in thailand, and I wish you better luck in your future endeavours. By the way, who told you that body types like the ones you prefer were prolific in southeast asia. Spinner is most likely a more apt word to use in this part of the world, but as i stated before (if the class was paying attention) that the girls at living dolls 2 were right up your alley (all of our alleys) but I don't think you ended up there. In fact, I have fucked two rather large cupped (d cup) girls outta there and had an absolutely fantastic time with the both of them. Anyway, happy hunting and good luck in your travels.

that's if he was in thailand...

DM

Are you trying to sat you're fresh or your hair is fresh? Without tones even phonetic spelling is useless. SOOO hard to write Thai in English characters.
Gotta give me a chance to lay the groundwork. From your last itinerary posted it looks like your stay in BKK will be very short.

BTW -- Only one girl is in play . Da's nong sao is a Cherry Girl in the fine AC tradition.
What a shame she will likely give up her cherry to some lame thai dude. I'm actually one of the few farang she has ever met.

doc,

I meant to say "I am single" I've been hanging out at www.learningthai.com and learned the phrase there.

re groundwork: ok, lemme know what I can do.

As for the itinerary, I go with the flow. If I have a reason to hang in bkk a few more days, it's all good.

Gotcha-- only one in play ;) Just make sure she likes spicy food and doesn't mind an entj personality type. I'm a borderline extrovert, as I'm actually pretty quiet and reserved until I get to know a person. Does she speak any english?

l8r,
marco