Introduction, Preparation and Getting There

Why Germany? I knew it was expensive and difficult to get around in. I knew some other posters absolutely hated it in Germany. I knew the women could sometimes be a little older. But I just could not resist the siren call of 50 naked women running around a club. I could not resist the prospect of public sex. I could not resist spending all day at a club and fucking five (maybe more) women a day. That kind of style is perfect for me.

I have long had Germany on the list of places to visit, but when I found a winter airfare from Arizona to Frankfurt for right about $500 RT on American, I could no longer find a good reason not to go. I booked my flight about three months earlier and started counting the days. I knew this was going to be short trip. I usually like to do ten days to two weeks in a destination, but that is way too much time in Germany given the rate of the Euro to the Dollar and the more expensive nature of the clubs. I would end up in the poor house if I stayed that long.

But I figured six days would be good enough. I usually spend hours on end researching a reading about destinations, but with Germany I did none of that. I posted a few questions on the Europe board and had a few private messages from Peter that included some recommendations, but that was about it.

It seemed to be a universal fact that Sunday’s were horrible at the FKK’s, so I decided to go Monday through Saturday and skip Sunday altogether. The next thing I needed was a car. Everyone seemed to say that SixT was the best, so I booked a car online through them.

The two things I wanted were an automatic and the navigation system. I know how to drive manual transmission, but I just figured it would be better to have a hand free while navigating in unfamiliar territory. Peter later recommended getting a diesel to save on gas and gas mileage. That is good advice.

With the airfare and car taken care of, it was now time to find a hotel. I booked online with Priceline.com. I got the same hotel Dart got for my first night, the Courtyard by Marriot Frankfurt Messe. I bid $40 US per night for a two star hotel and they upgraded me for free to a three star. With taxes and such it was a little over $50 US for a night.

I also booked my last night. I bid the same $40 US for a two star, but this time got the Tryp Frankfurt. It was the same thing, a little over $50 US with taxes and fees through Priceline.

I wanted to leave the middle of my trip open a little bit. I had originally debated spending three days each in the Frankfurt area and the Cologe/Dusseldorf area. Peter eventually talked me into doing two days in Frankfurt (my first and last) and then four days in Cologne/Dusseldorf. I tried unsuccessfully to secure a hotel in Dusseldorf for either $40 or $50 US per night, but the Dorint Novotel Köln City took my $50 US per night bid for two evenings.

I had meant to book the other two nights before I left or shortly after I arrived, but forgot. It was better that way as this left the trip a little more open ended. The other thing I decided to do was not bring a lot of cash. I know Dart and some others do this, but I generally don’t like to do so. Peter was saying ATM machines were readily available and a better exchange rate would be had than exchanging cash. I did open a Compass Bank account. They were offering a promotion through the end of October that gave me free checks in addition to their normal free checking for life. That is also in addition to the fact they will rebate all fees other ATMs and bank charge you. I figured I would split my money between Compass and Bank of America just to be safe. My Compass ATM card is part of Plus and Star networks whereas BofA is only part of the Plus ATM network.

That was about it for preparation. The plane ticket, the rental car and the hotel bookings just about did it. The day before I left I did print out every FKK listed on Kaleu’s FKK List so I would have the address and city to put into the navigation system. I didn’t bother printing out any maps or driving instructions as I planned on leaning solely on the nav system for driving instructions to the clubs and the hotels. There was no way I was going to leave the airport without knowing how to use it though.

Luckily Dart struggled through it, screaming and all, and wrote up a pretty nice article about driving in Germany and using the navigation system. You can check that out here. One comment from Tight_Fit that struck me was the two themes that seemed consistent throughout all the Germany trip reports. One was that they could never get the navigation system to work and that finding the clubs was difficult at best. I hoped neither of these would be the case for me, but I was relying heavily on the nav system to get me there.

I also had a bunch of 500-mile upgrades sitting in my account from previous trips, so I decided to request a first class upgrade on the Arizona-Dallas portion of the trip. I have NEVER flown first class before, but unfortunately it didn’t go through. Hopefully it would on the flight back. So with Dart’s guide read, everything booked, I was ready to head to Germany for the first time. I started to do a little Pimsleur German, but it just never stuck. Portuguese stuck much better with me as did Spanish, but German I had a hard time with and doing the Pimsleur was not very successful even though I made it through 25 of the 30 units. Oh well, I was going to have to get by with English.

Everyone in the past has recommended Ambien to sleep on a flight. I went to the doctor shortly after my Hong Kong trip and he actually gave me Temazepam instead. He said something about it not giving me an upset stomach or something else like Ambien might. I don’t remember exactly what the side effect was that he mentioned. I took it with me, but didn’t use it. I don’t know why. I guess I was just a little hesitant to use a sleeping pill.

The flight to Dallas was quick and I had a short layover, just long enough to hit the Admiral’s club, check my email, grab a beer and head to the gate. I had a nice spacious exit row seat and watched videos on my laptop for a while. I also watched “I, Robot” with Will Smith and ended up staying awake for the entire flight. While I was checking my email in Dallas Peter had mentioned the weather had taken a nose dive right as I was about to arrive. He recommended heading to downtown Frankfurt and buying a winter coat, but I decided what I had with me was fine. I still figured my most important activities and most of my time would be spent indoors.

I arrived around 7 in the morning. I was slightly concerned the hotel would not let me check in so early, but figured if that was the case I could easily just familiarize with the area and kill some time driving around. I was through immigration in about two minutes. It was a snap and the line was not long at all. Clearing customs was just as easy.

I hit the rental counter and they didn’t have the Mercedes A-Klasse. I ended up getting the same style car that Dart received. It was a Renault Megane Scenic. The lady at SixT said it was a step up in class from the A-Klasse, but according their webpage it is actually a step down. But they didn’t have an A-Klasse and I needed the navigation system so that is what I received.

The key was a rectangular magnetic/chip strip that you place into a slot in the dashboard. There was no key to turn. Instead, there was a button labeled start and stop. You pushed the button to start the engine and again to stop it. If you pulled the key out while the engine was running without pressing stop, the engine would continue to run.

The car was located on the seventh floor of a garage right next to the car counter. A quick ride up the lift and the car was fairly easy to find. Upon entering I started looking around for the “Nav” button. I eventually found it on the radio console. I punched it up and I saw the two options of “OK” and “Sprache.” I highlighted “Sprache” which gave me the English option. After that I was off and running. I put in the city of Frankfurt, but they it gave me like three different Frankfurts. If I recall correctly, I tried each until the street I needed Oeserstrasse 180 was displayed. It is cool how it will auto-fill the rest of the name once it knows the street or city and will only display the letters of a city or street that are possible combinations.

For example, if you start with F for Frankfurt it will only display R and other possible letters of cities that begin with F. This makes entering cities and streets quite easy and fast. It did sometimes take a while to calculate routes and to startup the nav system itself, but the wait usually wasn’t too long.

How the hell do you get this car into reverse?

I did end up getting a diesel like Peter recommend, but not an automatic like I had wanted. It was no big deal, until I tried to get the car into reverse. Ok, this is a diesel. My dad had a VW Diesel Rabbit many years ago while I was a kid. I remember him pushing down to get the car into reverse. Ok, I tried that. No good. Well maybe you have to pull up to get it into reverse. No, that didn’t work either. Well fuck. How the hell do I get this car into reverse?

I was loath to walk all the way back downstairs and ask them how to get the damn car into reverse, so I started thumbing through the manual in the glove compartment. It was all in German, no English! Fuck! I played around with it a little more and then embarrassingly walked back downstairs to the counter to ask about how to get the car into reverse. She originally said push down, which I had tried. Then she asked a colleague and explained there was a ring to pull up in order to get the car into reverse. Damnit! Why didn’t I see that? Why didn’t I try that! Dumbass Xen. So with the car finally in reverse I headed out of the garage, out of the airport area on to the freeway and quickly to the hotel. Thank goodness it didn’t take me three hours to get there like some other posters.

The nav system is really cool. It will tell you how much further you have to go on your current route, it will let you know when a turn is coming up, and it has a cool little graphic display or a straight arrow and right or left turn arrows. It also provides voice instructions such as “turn right now, turn left in 300 meters.”

I had no problems at all finding the hotel and even got a neat little checkered finish flag when I reached the hotel. After I entered the parking lot I took some time to enter some other FKK’s into the nav system so I wouldn’t have to do it later. I entered FKK-World first and it took it without a problem. I had more trouble with Oase. Kaleu’s said Obererlenbach and I had trouble getting that city into the system. I entered Bernd´s Saunaclub (Schieferhof) next and again that went in without a problem. I figured I would just go to an internet café and check CH about Oase.

When I went to go check in I had no trouble at all with an early check-in time. They took me in fine, so I went upstairs, showered and cleaned up and then headed back down to reception. I had four things I needed to do before I went to Oase. I needed to get something to eat, I needed to find an ATM, I need to find an internet cafe and I needed to get a sim card for my phone so I could call Peter.

I had actually taken out two hundred Euros from an ATM at the airport, but I figured I would need more after getting the sim card, food, etc. I asked the reception about all four place. They said head downtown or back to the airport for a sim card. They also said after the forest on Oeserstrasse I should find a bank and ATM. It was kind of cool driving down Oeserstrasse. It was really pretty with all the leaves falling off the trees. I don’t get too much of that here in the desert.

But I didn’t see anything that looked like a bank. It just looked like old homes and apartments. After a few u-turns and driving up and down Oeserstrasse a few times, I finally noticed a small sign that had, I think, several colors in it. Hmmm. Could that be it? Sure enough, it was. The bank was not on the main Oeserstrasse, it was down a side street about 100 meters. The ATM or Geldautomat took my card without a problem. WooHoo! One down, three to go.

I just started driving around next to see what I could find. I started driving south through a residential neighborhood and eventually came out on Denisweg. A little bit west of the A5 I found an internet café. I hit Dart’s instructions on how to get to Oase, but instead of printing it out I just looked and saw the Ober-Erlenbacher part for entering the city into the nav system. I also just wrote out some of his key words like “Karben/Burgholzhausen” and “AZB” on a piece of paper. After all, I had the nav system, right? I just needed to get clarification on the city.

I also remember reading somewhere in his report about the nav system screwing up near the exit to Ober-Erlenbacher, but that was only in the back of my mind.

I started driving east along Denisweg and found a computer/mobile phone shop right next to a Burger King. I forget the name of the place, but somehow I knew O2 was a mobile provider in Germany so the big signs in the window made me go in.

The clerk spoke very little English, but I was eventually able to get my sim card. This was not like purchasing a sim in Thailand or the Philippines. They took my passport number and hotel address and entered it into the computer. No anonymous phone calls in Germany!

I think I paid something like 25 Euros for the card and it included however many minutes. It was enough and I didn’t have to reload the card while I was there, although most of my calls to Peter were quite short. The instruction manual that came with the sim was only in German so I had no idea how to check how many minutes I had left and the lady clerk didn’t understand when I tried to ask her. Oh well, I had the number and I had a sim and I had Peter’s number and that is all that really mattered. With three out of my four goals accomplished, I grabbed a quick bite to eat before I headed out for my first big FKK day in Germany!

Coming Soon: A long day at Oase and some expensive lessons learned…

Xenono; Nice intro. Thanks for the added effort to post links.

How did you like the flight on AA?

Last month when I flew to Rio on AA in cattle class it seemed that none of the seats would recline more than one or two inches if that.
RG

(Message edited by roadglide on November 20, 2004)

They fly the 767 to Rio though, right?

I remember the 767 from my first trip to Rio and didn't like it. The main thing I didn't like was no individual screen for the route map or the tv.

I have flown in the 777 to Narita and now to Frankfurt. I have flown in exit row 31 both times. People do to tend queue up in front of you for the restrooms, but when that happens I just spread out my legs further and make them move. Like Seatguru says, the tray table is in the arm rest slighly reducing the width of the seat, but I am not so fat anymore so that doesn't bother me.

The seats do seem to have a full recline though.

For what it's worth, here are the official seat pitches in economy from Seatguru.com:

763: 32-34.0" pitch 17.2" width
777: 33-35.0" pitch 18.2" width

The flight to and from Franfurt were both fine for me. For the most part I was comfortable and able to relax most of the way there.

I thought I would bring it up... when flying in cattle class, try to have some degree of respect for the one sitting behind you. Perhaps check if they have room. I try to avoid flying cattle class, but when I do, the person in front of me is in for a long trip if they are in my lap. Well perhaps allowable if they are a hot spinner, but ....

I flew the 767 to the DR and loved it-- of course I had a choice seat with no one near me tho

DM
We're not going to open that can of worms again are we ?? Being my height I would love to have you sitting in front of me , but few people have any regard for the person behind them. Even if my knees get crushed they think it is their God given right to recline their seat.

Xen

As always -- Love your reports. Your attention to detail is incredible. I forget most of the details of what I do on my trips. I just remember the continuous warm fuzzy feeling in my groin. That doesn't make for a very interesting report usually. Can't wait for the lurid details.

I'll play AndresB here -- Where are the pictures ?

KM,

Usually a soft, "can you please pull the seat up a bit" works... However, during my flight back from San Fran this week I was on a totally sold out flight and got stuck with cattle seats. Worse yet, I almost slugged a bitch who insisted on fully reclining despite being pinned up against my legs. I gave her a few choice words and then pressed my knees against the back of the seat just outa spite for 4 hours. It was a 4 hour battle back and forth. Next time I'm on a fully booked flight, I'll come prepared for battle.

-DM

This discussion reminds me of something that happened to my mother, an infrequent traveler, a few years ago when she went to Europe with one of her friends.

She reclined her seat one time on a flight out of New York on Delta. As soon as she did, the guy behind her kicked her seat right back at her, throwing her out of hers and onto the floor while screaming, "Fucking bitch! I've got no room."

Needless to say she got re-seated shortly after that, but little other help from the airline.

KM,

Thanks. I am very sorry to disappoint, but there are no lady pictures for this trip. This is a shame as well because I thought I banged some great looking women.

I was able to get the camera into the FKK's and could have easily gotten it from the locker and hidden it before a session, but I didn't want to take the chance of getting thrown out on my ass in the cold.

Xen-- I assure you that I'm as laid back/harmless a dude as your likely to find. I started getting testy after asking her nicely several times with no sucess. She finally got me going when she turned around and asked, "are you purposely trying to prevent me from putting my seat all the way back? I WANT to lean back more if you don't mind!" That's when I said to myself, "ok FU lady."

Xen, excellent info as always. I need to remember to pickup business cards and use the taperecorder to record details. Great job.

Xen,

glad to see it is already becoming more informative than anything I have ever posted.

I know pictures are impossible, but I can at least contribute some of two of the girls that Xeno did in Wildenrath, and the one in the Grey bikini who turned him away.

First is the Black Girl who was built like a brick house:


Then the polish Girl Eva who gave the great BJ:


Now a whole bunch of Naomi, the one who got away. She really is stunning, although I am not blown away by her sessions with me. But I have seen her in public action and she has been a real trooper.

That’s the one. Damn I wanted to do her, although I don't remember her tits being that big. Man she was hot. Fucking Dutch! j/k

Didn't you mention she was married to the owner of an FKK? Why the hell is she still working if she is?

And you were right. Those are scars on that South African chick. That is weird.

And hey, where are the pics of Violetta?

Hey DM,

My post wasn't meant to imply anything or any behavior on your part. I am sorry if it came across that way.

The black and white pics are 2 weeks old (been on the homepage for 3 days) so they are quite representative of naomi's current cup size. The colour ones are from last year and she was about 8 pounds heavier, probably about 4 of them in the chest.

She is not married to the owner, just one of the managers, but that marriage might be half for love and half for legal immgration status, as a lot of the girls have husbands for this purpose.

The South African is actually nigerian, and those are regional traditional scarring, which is as common there as tatooing in the states. It is a little freaky at first, but it grows on you.

the new pictures of Violetta on the home page don't do her justice. actually I find her body looks bad on them, and there are no pictures of her face, which is her main selling point.

I will post her pics though later, just have to download them (Screen shot Cut & Paste reformat actually).

Here are the Violetta Pictures.

she does look a lot better in person though. Actually the shot of her gaping gash was so distrubing to me that I did not book her when I went there last night with LAGUY.

I did see a great 3 on 3 public session with Violetta, Naomi and Dana. It was interesting, partner switching and even santa hats. Very surreal.

wowow. I love those B&Ws!


Excellent composition and lines!!

DM,

All the pics are up on their homepage. Here is the link:

http://www.parksauna-wildenrath.de/galerie/album0.html

I found their old page which had 70 pictures like the one below to be less artistic, but more informative.