Well for better or worse, I showed up in LoS with 36 condoms and arrived back home with 36 condoms. The only condom wearing incident I had was with my ST Soi6 gal who wanted to use a blood restricting thai condom. The rest of the sessions were all BB and cum was doled out between the pussy and mouth.

I only had 34 sessions this trip. Out of which the breakdown would be 1 covered screw, 27BB, 6BBBJTC, 1 CIC (in condom), 11 CIM, 22 CIP. Oh ya and one red cock.

I nuked the system just prior to returning home to be on the safe side, but all was well. Although these kind of numbers carry some risk, I've gotten accustomed to the feeling of wet/warm pussy and it is damn hard going back to the wrapper.

My response if they asked to use a condom was to reply, "sure, put one on." They would take one look at their condom and one look at my cock and toss it aside knowing it wasn't going to fit on without a battle.

You bad, bad man.

How often do you have BB in Rio?

Never been...

DM, as a fellow bad boy on occassion, I admire your candor.

Soccer: I've only been to Rio 2x, but the sex at the Termas were covered, but BBBJs are common.

I have the opposite reaction. The pooying know the condoms will fall off anyway so why bother ??

Ahh -- to think of all the little DMs running around next year is heartwarming.

Good luck DM.

Hehe, Yes KM, the biggest concern for me as I try to keep the wizards hat on most times...is spawning mini-MERLINS all over the world.

I read an article about Dennis Rodman's father (an Angeles resident) who is reputed to have 27 kids in different countries from 4 different wives!

(Message edited by merlin on January 09, 2005)

>>I read an article about Dennis Rodman's father (an Angeles resident) who is reputed to have 27 kids in different countries from 4 different wives! >>

Merlin,

Although I cannot validate the number of mothers, the number of children is actually true. I met the guy at his BBQ restaurant around AC. He likes to party, which goes without saying, but is older than I imagined. He says he takes care of his offpsring financially, and with Dennis as a son, money should NOT be an issue. A very white-acting black man. A pleasure to talk with and laugh with. Go see him when next in AC.

Believe me he gets nothing from his " son" Dennis. Dennis hates him with a passion and barely aknowledges he exists. When Dennis was big shit with the Bulls his dad came back to the US to try to gravy train but Dennis blew him off and would not even talk to him. The reporters tried to ask him about his Dad but he said as far as he was concerned he had no Dad. I guess he left Dennis and his Mom when he was very young to go off to the Phils and play around. Never came back or was heard of until Dennis became famous. Probably at least one of the reasons that Rodman is sooo screwed up.

Maybe a nice guy , but has to be a bit of an asshole as well.

KM, you're right about the father, how does the dad expect a ride on the gravy train when he bails on Dennis as a toddler. It was also funny to see how the father promotes the hell out of his son on the menu and stuff when you go to his Soul Food restaurant in Angeles, kind of like it's suppose to draw people there.

WT: One thing though, I did eat at the R&R Soul Food restuarant 2x and it was great food, but you gotta wait too long for the food. Didn't see Rodman Sr. though.

Bareback full service of just BBBJ's? If FS, damn not even I am that dangerous in LOS. AIDS still moderately prevalent there. I am not one to preach cause I dont practice but wow. Almost all the gogo girls require condom for FS.

Blazers
Seems to be a changing trend. My last visit only a few of the go go girls even mentioned condoms. I BB'd more girls this last trip than any trip I have done since the AIDs era began. I guess that's a bad thing in the long run , but the AIDs scare seems to have lost it's influence.

Yeah I'm actually old enough to remember Thailand before AIDs when no one wore condoms and took their chances with curable shit.

Blazers-- BBFS. I don't mention BBBJs specifically since it is a given when with me.

-DM

Those 22 cum in pussies should be a tip off ;)

I was achieving very high rates of getting BBFS in LOS last trip. Close to 80% I would say.

KM,

Being a physician, how do you justify yourself going BB? Is it because of your age? (By the way, I have no idea how old you are. I just assume from your post that you are not a spring chicken.) Or do you feel that a healthy person screwing another healthy-looking person has a pretty low chance of contracting? Or... what?

Hell -- I think we all would go BB if we weren't scared by the warnings that are preached to us!

What's the scoop Dr?

(Message edited by rastaman on January 10, 2005)

(Message edited by rastaman on January 10, 2005)

Khun_mor,

I didnt know you were in medicine.

Rastaman,

Raincoats are numbing to the penis. I hate them.

"Almost all the gogo girls require condom for FS"

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!! You FUNNY MAN!!

E

Rasta
I pick and choose my BB encounters. No guarantees of course I know that but I've done it for over 20 years now with no problem to date-- knock on woody. Therefore it's not about age. as I was doing at the ripe ole age of 30.
How do you justify people skydiving or mountain climbing etc ?? Life is a series of calculated risks. I did my calculations and took the risk. You must choose your own path. I am not in any way telling people it is safe or wise. It is what I chose -- nuff said.

Rasta,

I know it probably wasn't meant as such, but no one here needs to justify anything. Life is about personal choice and this hobby is certainly an extension of that. Introducing what a person does for a living and asking for him/her to justify a very personal decision is a tad dogmatic. Make your own decisions with your ganglia and that's that...

Epi, I should have refrased that......All Thai gogo dancers require condoms....In my experience, almost all of the uber hotties at go go bars and even the moderately cute ones have nearly demanded condoms. The Soi 6 and beer bar girls normally dont but I dont have as much experience with those girls in Pattaya.

Blazers, have you considered the the possibility that it is your weathered and worn stump as the reason they demand the condoms w/ u?

Next time your in Pattaya, point out some of your "uber hotties" and I'll give them a proper creaming.

To be honest....Most of the go go girls in Pattaya are insanely hot but are fucking the local guys and I have seen them and it scares me. IV drug users to the core. I am not one to use condoms with FOB girls but girls with multiple tatoos and died hair are the norm in Pattaya and I wont BB them....that's just me. Beer bar girls are another story.

I know I'm probably in the minority, but I don't care for tatoos and hate died hair. That's one reason I opt for "cute" and/or "girl next door" types.

KM,

I skydive and drive in Los Angeles freeway traffic, so I understand your explanation about calculated risks.

I HATE condoms more than anything (did you hear that Whoretester?)!!! I was kind of seeking a little rationalization to avoid using them myself. However, I've just been used to reading everywhere to "wear a condom, wear a condom, wear a condom!!!" - especially when screwing SEA whores!

You're a physician, so I figured if you go BB sometimes, maybe I'm being over-hyped on the warnings and I might walk on the wild side and get some added sensation, too. BTW, "Knock on Woody" was pretty damn funny.

DM, You're right. It wasn't meant that way. Nobody is more about personal choices without people coming down on them than I am. I just hate wearing a condom so much that I wanted to know the good doctor's personal thoughts on the subject for my own enlightenment.

Sometimes I wonder if we all monger in the same country. Just speaking for Bangkok, the vast majority of women I wind up with insist I wear a condom, and will stop the action to grab one when penetration looks imminent to them. I guess maybe some of them would relent if I really tried to talk them out of it, but I don't try to.

Then again, it's not part of my screening process either, so maybe that makes a big difference in some cases.

Rastaman
Don't do it because I do it. You have to be really comfortable with your decision otherwise you are going to be torturing yourself and worrying about the consequences of what you are doing. That's not worth it and certainly robs the pleasure from the experience. The odds of getting HIV from unprotected sex have been discussed here ad nauseum. It's a small risk, but if you're the unlucky one it's a 100% incidence rate and you have to be ready to face that fact not ignore it. Just like you should be doing with the chances of your parachute not opening. IMHO-- much riskier than what I'm doing.

Murasaki
It's never been part of my screening process, and as you know my style is not about talking money or abilities anyway. I just get to know the girl and spend some time before getting to the tween the sheets shuffle.Perhaps by the time we get down to it there is enough of a connection between us that the thought of a condom does not come up, at least on many encounters. This last trip I had BB sex with 2 girls from Dollhouse, one from Morning @ Night, one from Soi 33,two from Soi 6 and one from Tahitian Queen. Not to mention my two girlfriends !! Sounds like DM and Epi have similar if not higher stats. This has always been my experience in LOS I'm not sure why you find so much insistence on condoms.

My girl last night required a condom. I didn't complain when she grabbed the massage oil for lube...

E

Interesting comments by all.

Rasta: thanks for not taking my critisism personally. KM hit the nail on the head with regard to your question-- I need not say more.

Master Saki: I've never mentioned protection once to any girl I chat with. My "process", for the lack of a better term, is very much what KM described, which may or may not explain their comfort in not requesting a condom. I'm as unassuming as can be and never push anything upon a girl whether it be BB or trying to squeeze in sessions when the mood is not mutual, so my BB #s often aren't deliberate. Sometimes if they ask to use one, I just reply, "sure if you have one put it on" If they put one on fine. For whatever reason, they usually just stuff my cock in them. Who am I to complain?

KM: this trip was quite different in terms of my safe sex practices (or lack thereof). Typically, I attempt to use a condom at all times and do not when a girl thrusts me in her vagina before I get to rolling one on (historically around 10% of the time). Once inside, I have always succumbed to the sensations. This trip, I didn't actively push condom use and instead let them initiate its use and application. The #s are quite different as you can see (BB-- 97%). Interesting to say the least. It is odd to me that several characteristics of my experiences (this being just one) in LoS are often seen as atypical, but you nearly always have the same experiences? That is the one reason I place so much emphasis into chemistry, karma, and those other variables that are fuzzy at best.







(Message edited by donmarco on January 11, 2005)

EPI-- that's too funny!! I had never thought about keeping a bottle of condom bustin' ointment handy till u came along !! Curious, how long did the condom hold out for?

you're right about chemistry.

I like to mix up my dates. some will be performers, others will be more of a trophy fuck. The trophy fucks have always demanded a rubber for sex.

Exactly Socrates....the newbies and girls next door normally dont require one until they get a disease. But the trophies almost always require one, especially in Bangkok.

I still think it's your weathered one-eyed snake.

I'm the trophy fuck and I've never required girls to wear protection... so much for that hypothesis. I also rarely hang in BKK. When I do, I'm visiting my regulars for the most part...

I don't know why DM, but I never thought of you as a trophy fuck ! I did see the way all those dancers in BoysTown in Pattaya looked at you though.

Blazers One man's trophy is another man's discard.
I've had plenty of what 90% of us would consider a trophy fuck not require a condom. The only thing consistent about Thai women is their inconsistency .

"I nuked the system just prior to returning home to be on the safe side, but all was well. "

DM,

What is your method in this nuking?

Never realised that there were so many "wild guys" in this forum including the good doctor!

(Message edited by crazier on January 12, 2005)

KM, well they aren't begging to stick around due to my charming personality now r they?

Crazier, I nuked myself with zithromax and ciproxxx to take care of anything bacterial and fend off the possibility of a leaky faucet.

As a Batam oldie such as yourself, I take it being a "wild guy" is the norm rather than the exception there? Girls didn't seem too interested in a condom the weekend I was in town.

rasta, i just read your Q and A to KM and I must say that the decision to have unprotected sex with a hooker should solely rest upon your shoulders...do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.

Don't do it just because a doctor who monger does, or because it's en vogue. make your own decisions....decisions you're comfortable living with. I mean...I know of two doctors who are mongers that have done research up the wazoo and have concluded that unprotected sex is not worth the risk. One is a HIV researcher at ucla medical. BUT, that's their personal choice, NOT mine. I've listened to both sides of the issue and have come up with my own conclusions.

Now i haven't been as lucky as KM because when i started getting riskier with this 'hobby', my luck was against me as i caught two stds within a year. luckily they were the curable type...an acquintance wasn't as lucky and now sports genital herpes on his penis mixed with some sort of semi-permanent red rash. He's on a downward spiral because now any decent looking prostitute refuses him, so he's lowered himself into doing the hardcore drug using street walker types...which he manages to convince to have unprotected sex with him despite the rash. very risky practice as your chance for getting hiv are doubled once you have one type of STD (particularly genital herpes or anything that creates the potential of open lesions).

one thing is for sure and that is...if all the mongers started having unprotected sex, there would be a sizable increase in STDs.

not the condom police, just giving you the flip side of the coin as it seemed like you hastily made up your mind about a big issue in this hobby over one man's post. I'd think it through more carefully.

happy hunting soc

(Message edited by socrates69 on January 12, 2005)

I wonder if we'll have this discourse every time I do a TR. I report the stats for no other reason than to document my sexual and trip experience/s.

IMHO we're all adults and have the power of free will. If I am an advocate of anything, it is that each of us use our rights of free will and not impinge upon anyone else's space in doing so. I make decisions each day-- each carrying it's own particular potential risks and rewards. This subject is no different.

If anyone wants to worry bout risk, try these on for size:

do you smoke?
are you more than 10% overweight?
is your % fat intake over 30%
how much salt do you ingest p/d?
how much excercise do you get on a weekly basis (<70MHR)?
what's your BP?
What's you resting HR?
how many achoholic drinks/week do you intake?

It is odd how some folks are very selective and/or are inconsistent when it comes to accessing risk in their daily life and health. Sometimes it's easier to focus on the tree (i.e. a particular issue) instead of the forest (holistic health).

Text"As a Batam oldie such as yourself, I take it being a "wild guy" is the norm rather than the exception there? Girls didn't seem too interested in a condom the weekend I was in town."

The fact is that Indonesian guys hate to use the latex! So, its not the norm in Indonesia to be protected and, the girls go with the guys.

Also, lots of Singapore guys looking for unprotected sex as its hard to get it in Singapore with the working ladies being encouraged and educated to insist on rubbers as with Geylang's official whorehouses.

There was never really a campaign to use latex in Indonesia like there has been in Thailand where Mr Mechai's (the campaigner) name Mechai is synonymous with "condom".

In my earlier days (pre - Aids) of mongering I have had more than one case of STD and I remember having to take the wife in to the doctor too for her checked out on those occasions. They were instances of huge unpleasantness! (We are now separated but not because of these instances).

Further, those days when I was nursing and getting cured, were days of "self-imposed solitary confinement" which no amount of bare-back pleasure can compensate for.

I have thought through the situation of even worse days if one is to have HIV / Aids and what it would do to my pleasurable life today and made the decision that dying would be better than living with Aids.
Staying covered (incl BJs) has been my mongering choice even when BB is available as in Batam and with many P4P & non P4P opportunities.

No, I do not jump off planes with parachutes nor drive racing cars for thrills and yet I do undertake other seemingly risky activities like hang-gliding and walking down dark alleys (in foreign countries) alone.

My fear with Aids is not so much death but the life before death. Being a coward, I will probably not be able to self-terminate at will if it happens to me so I rather have even less risk when it comes to this Aids thingy!

I just want to comment that this discussion thread is filled with so many honest, level headed, and mature contriburions for such an obviously controversial and emotional issue. There is definately a lot of food for thought.

Personally I bar back heavily and have paid the price with a couple cases of the drippy dicks. Also, I have also recently paid the price of having impregnated (OK I guess there was a good chance I was the father) a regular. Subsequently, there was a messy illegal abortion. This was a stressful and unpleasant experience. I felt terrible about contributing to this young woman potentially losing her ability to conceive and having to endure such a traumatic experience. On a more pragmatic aspect, fathering a baby is an emotional, time, and financial drain that I just don't want to incur. All of these negatives certainly overwhelmed joy of the Costanza sentiment "Yes My Boys Can Swim!"

So what am I going to do? Get a vasectomy ASAP! At least I am consistent as I probably would have to give the "wrong" answer to each question on DM's list!

Did I mention that I have enough FF (frequent fuck-up) points to upgade to Business Class on that trip to Hell I will be taking?

(Message edited by mongerx on January 12, 2005)

"do you smoke?"

No

"are you more than 10% overweight? "

Probably

"is your % fat intake over 30% "

No

"how much salt do you ingest p/d? "

No Idea

"how much excercise do you get on a weekly basis (<70MHR)? "

Not much besides sex.

"what's your BP? "

OK when I last checked 5 years ago!

"What's you resting HR? "

????? Hardly rest unless I am sleeping.

"how many achoholic drinks/week do you intake?"

Too much.

"Do you fuck around?"

Yes

In my case, currently living here in Singapore (and perhaps later in other parts of SE Asia), the social stigma of LWA (Living with Aids) is BAD.

I am not sure how it is in other parts of the world where you guys come from.

However, the worst thing obviously is having to forgo Sex cos it would perhaps be irresponsible to go spread the thing to others.

Of course, you could argue that you could then get sheathed!

But, its like locking the gates of the pen after the sheep have fled.

Anyway, is definitely a lifestyle choice.

A seriously safe bet would be to forgo Sex! (and that would have to include casual non P4P partners too) but,

That's as good as being dead too!

Where P4P is concerned, the high volume of partners ensures that cases of STD goes up for sure. HIV/Aids is just one of these STDs that has not found a solution to date that we know enough about.

Speaking specifically of Pattaya, I would bet money that far more farang die each year from getting drunk and getting ran over trying to cross Second Rd than ever contract HIV from unprotected sex. No doubt some farang do contract HIV but I seriously think the numbers are small in comparison to the number of drunks who get ran over. Since I am perfectly willing to accept the risk of death by getting drunk and crossing the street, why shouldn't I accept the relatively lessor risk of death by AIDS? Besides it just feels soooooooo goooood.

II tend to use a condom every time for penetrative sex. One because I am nervous about std's and aids, but primarily because I have a GF at home and it would be very unfair to infect her. So I tend to go for the condom as a matter of course - as much as I hate it.

I have noticed though in the last year or so, that the occurrence of girls not wanting to use a condom has increased, Before for me it was a rarity, now I would say that 30% of the time the girls have not wanted to use it and another 30% were OK either way. My fav. even turned up with a HIV and std certificate to show me she was clean, even though I had never asked her or intimated I wanted unprotected sex. From my own experience and what seems to being said here, it looks like bareback sex is becoming more common.

One question for the medics here. I usually take zithromax 1000 mg at the end of my trip as a precaution, I probably do this twice a year. Firstly should I take it before or after the trip starts or both, does frequent use reduce the effectiveness and lastly should I be taking anything else in addition like ciproxxx?

Crazier-- the questions were rhetorical and used to illustrate that folks often get all would up about a particular risk when greater foes may be right in front of them. I was just illustrating a list of common potential risk factors that account for over 70% of male deaths yearly and ones which folks may not even put on their radar. look around the gogo bars and tell me how many people are thinking about healthy life choices (very high % of folks who smoke, often drunk, and may also have some degree of weight issues). Anyway, you strike me as a very straightforward and open person-- I respect that and appreciate your comments.


WW-- I took the combo.


Again-- everyone do their own research and make their own informed decisions.




HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what do you guys think about the patriots this weekend?

DM,

I fully understand your intention and I still took the trouble to answer the questions because most of us really do not think through the risks as we go about our lives each day.

The fact is that there are some matters that are more psychologically acute for the individual and others that are totally not considered at all depending on our life's perspective, experiences and unique mental modes.

I for one always make sure that my life insurances are in place whenever I fly and I fly every month!

But, I truly hate to be up there if by chance the plane develops problems of any sorts. Hate to be a trapped rat in the sky and yet, the risks are less than being on the road!

Yep, I am a pretty straight kind of fella, black is black and white is white and then, theres all those shades of grey around us!

The idea of nuking is really sensible and I wonder if good doc or other well informed guys have a good idea what is the best formulation for nuking cos I nuke periodically too even though I play 'safer' than you guys!

MX-- the fact that your going to get snipped speaks volumes to your character and the impact of your recent experience. Good luck with it. BTW, how long is your pecker out of commision after the snip and what is the cost in LoS?

It sounds prudent to me to, but I would hate for Junior Marco to go on the IR for more than a day while in LoS.

Crazier-- it is clear that your "perspective" and "mental mode/s" are rather profound. It's been a pleasure getting to know a bit about what makes you- you.

-DM






(Message edited by donmarco on January 13, 2005)

In my previous experiences I have always used a condom for sex, but try not to for BJs. That's why I asked EPI about taking some BJ-bar girls for the night for LT (in a different post) because I should be assured some good BBBJCIMs. Although, on two occasions I had BB sex with 2 different BGs from Carousel and it was one of those things where I just sort of let it happen. But, man, aren't condoms a downer!!! We can put people into space, but can't come up with a better way to protect ourselves during the best of activities! <sigh>

BTW, is "nuking the system" discussed elsewhere on the board? Is it generally considered to have value? What's the best method?

KM, Thanks for your input. I totally understand where you are coming from.

Socrates: Thanks for sharing your experiences and those of your "FRIEND" (lol-just kidding). So, have you stopped being "risky" with your hobby completely, or do you still have the occasional “screw-using-a-condom” moment?

DM: I am about 10% overweight; exercise less than 70MHR, BP and resting HR are fine. I also commute about 2 hours a day in LA traffic and I imagine that eclipses all other risks. I don't drink much until I'm in Thailand and then go between Singha, Gin/Tonics and Orange Juice but never really get drunk, and I don't smoke. I travel with MOTO taxis and tuk-tuks. None of this really matters to this discussion; I just had fun writing it. I was looking for a joke in there somewhere, but never quite found it and I hate to use backspace so..... Anyway, your point is well taken. BTW, I know your questions where rhetorical and I think Crazier did also...they are just fun to answer. :-)

CRAZIER: I've wanted to hang-glide my whole life. You remind me that I need to act on that wish one of these days soon. Have you ever hang-glided in Thailand? I agree with your assessment of HIV/AIDS. As I mentioned above, I've had a few less-than-wise choices on protection. For example, I'll never use a condom for BJs unless required by the BJ'er. But, I consider the risk of HIV/AIDS low enough in this case to not worry about it (considering the appearance of the provider, my own history of no STDs, sores, etc).

Sancho: That's pretty funny. I agree that you've got to balance risk with reward and consequences. Unprotected sex does feel SO GOOD. It's too bad there is no crystal ball. And even more bad that condoms suck as a protective solution!


***

Thanks for all opinions and sharing everyone -- now get out their and F those girls good so they walk with that "I've been F'd good" walk in the morning!!!

Raster, perhaps a more important note in your risk analysis of BBBJ-- the HIV risk is currently theoretical for the inserter, as there are no documented cases in the world.

If ya want bbbjcim, just go to Lólita's and take away the guess work... they are thirsty seven days a week.

If I want to talk about Risk with a cap "R", I would talk about when I roll-on the throttle on my hayabusa. Hanging on for dear life is my form of exercise when not screwing...

If there was a crystal ball, it would sap away the very essence that makes for an interesting existence.

Moderation is for monks my friend.

DM, I love Lólita's? As I was asking Epi, have you ever taken any girls from there LT for some extra fun in your room, since they obviously are used to providing quite a few BBBJCIMs a day/night?

Not typically, as I can get my fill upstairs and then move on for a different experience outside the realm of Lólita's. I have barfined one Lólita's gal though who had a particularly talented mouth and I was also in the mood for a lot of sucking that night. My MO is to get my fill mid day to bridge the gap between my morning screw and my TBD LT barfine that evening. Regardless, whether or not Epi or I have done it is not relevant. Do as you wish—it’s your vacation and money.

DM...so it's suddenly labeled a 'discouse' because i advised rasta and the others (CH lurkers) to make up their own decisions rather than making hasty ones based on "well if he did, then it must be ok"...? and you say you're not an advocate. lol "Those 22 cum in pussies should be a tip off ;)"

rastaman, my point: make a choice based on your own research...which is why i never mentioned where i stand on the issue.

MX, sorry to hear about the issues you are/were dealing with. ILLEGAL abortions and young women potentially losing their abilities to conceive never crossed my mind. Thanks for sharing your insights.

(Message edited by socrates69 on January 13, 2005)

On why I hate flying but don't mind hang gliding is cos in latter, I am the one doing the driving! Sound stupid but that's how my mind works! Now you know which one is "safer"!

Rasta,

No I have never done hang gliding in Thailand.

Only in Cumbria, UK when I was a student there and its a LONG time ago but, its a great sport.

Now with paragliders, (which I hear have a glide ratio of more than 7:1) you can have the "chute" in a little rolled up bag, mountain bike up a place and glide down. Sounds like thrilling fun and perhaps more dangerous than BBFucks!

But, where the hell can one do that here in SE Asia!

DM,

Great post overall and most stimulating to CH guys here to have your insights!

At the back of your mind, I am sure, you knew
that this post here would surely trigger many intimate discussions like now!

1,000 mg of Zithromax-- single dose will effectively rid you of Chlamydia. Add 500 mg of Cipro and you have GC covered. That's my nuke " cocktail " .

The risk still lies with syphylis where the only " nuke " treatment still remains a shot of good ole penicillin in each butt cheek. Something most of us are not ready to do on the flight home. The only other decent alternative in oral form for syph is Doxycycline 100 mg twice a day for two weeks. If you got an ulcer on your dick though you better find a way to stay away from GF or wife with or without treatment anyway.

WW

Take it at the end of your trip unless you are transitioning from P4P to GF sex in the middle, or if, for some reason, you are worried about the next BG you have sex with .Gotta cover every transition back to GF or wifey sex for sure. Frequency of use does not negate effectiveness except as was discussed earlier in the " big picture " overuse of antibiotics can eventually lead to resistant strains of bugs. Not my main worry.I prefer to concentrate on my little picture and leave the big one to the CDC types.

DonMarco

In spite of the fact that you think your unit is too big because Asian girls can’t roll a condom upon it, I respect your candid discourse, if not your modesty.

Speaking of which, this morning a certain tall blonde Kentuckian who is rumored to have a major member attempted to book a repeat session with a favorita of mine. She immediately declined him in favor of spending the day with me and my microunit. FINALLY sweet justice prevails. So there. There IS hope for the penally challenged.
Much like yourself and many of the other posters on this thread, I’ve long been an independent type when it comes to risk analysis in my own life. To date, I’ve been very fortunate as well. I’ve never contracted a STD, or been seriously injured from any of my escapades.

I frequently update myself on world HIV and AIDS stats. The web is full of official organizations that do the research. Fact is that it is extremely rare and unlikely that a male will contract HIV from unprotected vaginal sex with a woman.

.06% of Latin Americans and South-East Asians have AIDS. That means 6 out of 10,000. www.unaids.com

Vaginal sex can transmit HIV to either the male or the female partner, but numerous studies in developed countries have shown that in the absence of other risk factors (like STDs) men are two to three times more likely to transmit HIV to women than vice versa. The area susceptible to infection is much larger in women (vagina, cervix and uterus) than in men (head of the penis, exposed urethra). Women are exposed to a larger quantity of infectious fluid (ejaculate) than men (vaginal fluids). Vaginal fluids contain less HIV on the average than semen . And women retain the secretions within the body after sex while men are only exposed during the actual sex act.
http://www.metrokc.gov/health/apu/infograms/hiv_transmission_0302.htm

I’ve searched my records and cannot find the stats I developed a while ago, but it went something like this:

If service providers are 10x more likely to have AIDS or HIV, that means that 6 out of 1000 could be infected. If I only have unprotected vaginal sex with them while my unit is free from any abrasions, I STILL run a relatively low risk of ever contracting the virus. Like 6 in 100,000 or 6 in 1,000,000.

So I practice a different kind of safe sex. I routinely shave my nutsack a few days before every trip, and then will never shave it on the trip. I don’t want any razor nicks if I can avoid them. Open sores kill, lads. Remember that.

Also, I routinely urinate and wash the unit after every session. I don’t know if it helps, but it cannot hurt PS A little aloe gel on the pipe keeps him looking fresh and clean. Chicks dig a healthy looking unit too.

DonMarco, you and I share very similar experiences when it comes to condom requests. I won’t belabor the point, however I still have most of the condoms I bought in September.

Your comment on life risks is well taken. We all do risky things driving, flying, and even eating at foreign restaurants.

My 'higher risk' recreational activities in the past 5 years have included:

Skydiving – awesome thrill. Everyone should try it. Oh, and the chute opened btw, in case you condomlovers were wondering.

HangGliding – very enjoyable, but without tits or a throttle onboard, I got a little bored after 30 minutes and requested that we land.

Parasailing – very scenic. We flew over a couple making love on the deck of their boat. Her ass was on top, proving that I must be living right.

ScubaDiving – using Cuban rental equipment too! That alone should warrant commendation. This includes scuba at depths in excess of 100’ and freediving to 40’. I’ve run out of air many times. I need to install a dummy light on my air gauge so I know when it is time to refill the tank.

Spearfishing – I’ve lost track of the number of sharks and moray eels with which I’ve contended. Once I had to do a rapid ascent from 80’ with my skirt pulled over my head to get away from a very aggressive 8’ hammerhead that was circling me. Spearing a 60 lb cobia on a 100’ reef just about killed me. Those buggers don’t quit until you give them a fullfrontal lobotomy with your diveknife.

Cliff Diving from 35 feet into 35 degree water. Whatever you do, don’t scream or you’ll swallow enough icewater to get a brainfreeze for the rest of the day.

Whitewater Rafting in Class 4-5 rapids

Whitewater Kayaking

Motorcycling – face to face with the following animals while on a Harley in Canada. Moose, Grizzly, Blackbear, Elk, and several skunks. If I had a dollar for everytime I’ve locked up the brakes. Laid three bikes down in my life, and walked away everytime. Wish I could say the same for everytime I've laid down a gringa...

Bungee Jumping from a bridge in Costa Rica. And yes, I inspected the bungee cord as closely as I do any vagina before I jump in.

Extreme Alpine Snowmobiling – go above the treeline, to an almost vertical slope, and play “who can leave the highmark in the snow”. If you’re really feeling brave, try to snatch a pebble from the palm of the mountain where the vertical face of the rock gives way to the snowy slope. I’m still working on that one, but it pays to be careful.

Jetskiing - I LOVE going out in the ocean the day before a hurricane hits. Awesome surf. My worst injuries have been from jumping waves on a pro-am modified standup ski.

ATV excursions in some very treacherous terrain

Horseback riding up some very steep mountains – huge puckerfactor there IMHO. Again, without tits or a throttle, I’m not inclined to ride it.

Driving an RV all around Cuba with Sandman – perilous at best. Not for the faint at heart.

Being seen on a date with one latina while you’re still “in a relationship” with another. You haven’t LIVED until you’ve tapdanced your way through that one. Not recommended for the meek at heart.

So thanks for sharing DonMarco. I think it is just swell that you bareback all of those nice Asian girls. Don’t rush to come to Brazil though. I’m sure you’ll get shot down if you even try that stuff here.

Donjustgottabemeand100'softimeslaterstilldiseasefreeGringo

DonG --
My condom strategy wouldn't work in Brazil I fear. The one Brazilian I screwed (in Germany) devoured my unit like it was a m&m and swallowed me down to the balls and then some. I was a toy at best. She also managed to make me explode before she was ready, much to her disappointment... She knew she had my number and toyed with me off an on for 3 days. I had all I could do not to shoot my wad after spending 5 minutes in her mouth.



Socrates --
I think your making some false assumptions combined with being a tad sensitive. Your post assumes I'm processing posts in a sequential and discreet manner-- I am not. My "discourse" comment was given once I took a step back and looked at the entirety of the thread, not in direct response to your post... If I was to direct a comment at you, I would preface it with your name, just like this one...

BTW, participating is advocating? Not related, sorry. Truth be told, I would prefer 100% condom use by all you critters-- it makes my life that much more "risk reduced"

Hell DonG, can I ride along with you for awhile!!! I've done part of the things you've done, but would love to do the rest? Who's your sponsors, Nike, Yamaha, and SeaDoo?

I suppose I'm like a lot of guys, you see a hot young healthy looking chick and think, "She's not infected, so I'll do her bareback." Well, on half of my trips to AC they've resulted in gonorrrrhoea which isn't very fun, it hurts. Luckily, no HIV+ results thus far. I always put out a condom in clear view but the AC girls rarely insist on them and if they do at night, they frequently don't in the morning...... interesting. This strange duality of behavior has happened also in Thailand. Maybe it's me but I'm more wary of AIDS in Thailand than in the Phils. Maybe it's because I think more needle use is happening there in Thailand and those needle using guys are the BF's of the girls. Another basis for the belief is that the Thai girls seem to be turning to prostitution as a career whereas in AC, it's like a farm girl going to AC to meet a foreigner to be her husband. What I'm saying is that the AC girls seem to be low milelage compared to the Thais therefore the odds are more in my favor if I chose to go bareback. As I mentioned, anytime you go bareback, you should be prepared for the consequences because it could terminate your life or cause a significant compromise to your standard of health. I always resolve to use the condoms before going but I don't use them 100% unfortunately. I believe AIDS stops with me and I do wish to stop it's human destruction, thus I resolve to use condoms henceforth but we all have that choice. AIDS spreads due to ignorance and to disregard to it's threat to you, me and mankind. Having lost a father recently, death doesn't just affect the one that dies but it has signifcant impact on the community and surviving family members. I'm advocating condom use to prevent a preventable tragedy.

I repeat.

NOBODY is advocating NOT using condoms !! I cannot understand why this keeps being suggested as what DM or I meant in our posts. I think this discussion has run it's natural course and should be put to rest.

I've always viewed this thread as guys expressing their views and where they are coming from on this issue. The insight of different people has been fascinating to me.

The thread was never intended to solicit advice or advocation. And, I think most of the posts are on track with just expressing how the poster handles this personal choice and what their feelings are on it.

In that light, I think this thread has been most insightful and enjoyable. It has gotten off that track a few times, but that's bound to happen when lots of different people of different background read and comment on subjects like this.

Thanks to all of those that shared their feelings.

Sorry guys !!

Actually I was just falsely bragging about being able to bareback girls. I would never do such a thing. In fact when I'm in Thailand I put on a condom every morning just in case I run into a girl during the day -- I want to be prepared and SAFE at all times.

RIP

KM, you may have not been encouraging BB sex nor was DM DIRECTLY....but indirectly DM is opening the eyes of some of the wrong guys. Many have never been to LOS on this site and have no clue how it works there. Many have also only used condoms before and may now think that the scene has changed and might feel encouraged to do so knowing a monger screwed 27 girls BB and received no repercussions. These are not sheep, they are people who may have been more careful before who might throw caution in the wind because they feel their risks are low now.

Dm's original intention may have not been to brag but it sures comes across that way. How many people you know give actual numbers of how many girls he barebacked and actually are explicit about how many girls he came inside....its irresponsible in my book and I am known to talk about BB sex in my reports but not at this level and not this blatant...I surely will not talk abouit it anymore nor do I suggest other mongers do so.

Blazers, write what u will. How you interpret my reporting is beyong the realm of things I care about.

I don't hear you saying that I was bragging about using condoms last report or the ones prior.... My reports have always been written in the same style regardless of the content.

You say these people are not sheep, but people who may throw caution to the wind because someone else may have... certainly sound like sheep to me.

Pontification is not very becoming.

This is a great forum. Although I must say, I personally have not seen anyone advocating BB sex either directly or indirectly. Every poster in here has repeatedly stated that this is just their opinion and that it is a personal decision.

It IS really nice to see such blatant honesty between adults though. Any other site would be so insecure and politically correct as to not warrant my time. Most enjoyable

BLAZERS: I personally hope the style of reporting doesn't change even a little bit! I thank DM and KM for the reports they give, the honesty they exhibited and hope to God they don't change that because of this thread or your recommendation. I always enjoy your posts also and hope you don't alter your reporting. I am also honest in my reports also and will continue to be.

I highly doubt that anyone would "throw caution to the wind" based on these posts. I certainly wouldn't! However, if this added honest information in combination with whatever other opinions, facts or other factors go into the mind of an individual reading these candid reports causes a change of opinion then so be it. That's what being a free person is all about. With freedom to choose comes responsibility. Frankly I think most people can handle. If they can't then they should suffer the consequences of their actions. Natural selection baby -- natural selection! (Since everyone seems to taking everything written here so damn literally I'll point out that the last sentence is tongue in cheek so I don't get lambasted on it.)

I enjoyed reading all the opinions and have nearly always gone the covered route. I don't want to deny each monger their own decisions and options. I have to agree that everyone should post their own opinion and that no one should be so silly as to chnage their decisions based solely on a post here. I learned more about the nukem strategy from reading this thread. Since there has alsways been the occasional BBBJ I've always been worried. I've heard that you can have some STDs without knowing they were there, so I've nuked by taking only the Cipro part of the combo. This time I think I'll also take the Zithro part as well, no point in taking chances that are so easily dealt with. As to condoms for full service I'm thinking that I still want the protection, but then again I understand the to each their own as to others on the board.

Recently read that a bunch of penguins died in San Fransisco Zoo from a chlamydia infection. Which of you Bay area mongers has been barebacking the zoo population ?? Murasaki went thru a horrible dry spell , but I thought he was back into the game again . Perhaps not ??
I guess chlamydia is a whole lot more serious for a penguin eh ?

Gurock--
I am honored that I inspired your 9th post in two years. I won't reopen the can of worms, but my intent was only to report on what I expereienced. I had no higher or hidden agenda.

Between spending my time validating my intentions here and ducking knives from girls that I photograph, my reports have become fairly blaise, which is fine with me.

KM--