This is not really my first trip to Sao Paulo, but it is the first time that I have had any time to go astray.

My first impressions when trying to chase women here are:

1. It is much easiers to chase women in either Rio, or Buenos Aires.
2. There are plenty of women here to chase, but the Sao Paulo is so big, and the traffic so congested, that you spend all your time trying to get from one place to the other.
3. Women are friendlier in both Rio, and Buenos Aires.

These are my personal observations, and may differ from others.

On this trip I was visiting a friend so precaution was the word. I visited Kilt's on Wed night, the massage palor listed at the following web site: http://www.francebel.com.br. My comments on both are as follows:

Kilt's

I like the Rio terma experience much better. While Kilt's has its share of beautiful women, the place strikes me as one of the go go bars in LA with twice as many women as men. Most of the women were 6.5 to 7.5 in my book with a few outstanding ones in the 9+ area. The real thing was that they just did not have the same class as Centarus, or the other termas. Also, space is crowded, and there are no cabinas. I did a mulato, but when we got back to the hotel she did not want to kiss.

Massage Parlor http://www.francebel.com.br/

The massage place was very clean, and it almost had the terma look to it with a couple of exceptions being that (1) you did not get to see the girls in person, but had to pick from their pictures, and (2) the massage rooms were smaller then cabinas at Centarus. Also, the girl that I did would not kiss either.

As far as Rio, and BA go, I never encountered a girl in either of these places that would not kiss, and were really GFE experiences.

My first two impressions of Sao Paulo are not what I was expecting. That does not mean that there are not things to be had here, but rather they are just harder to find.

Having been to Sao Paulo several times, Rio 6 or 7 times, and BA 6 or 7 times, for mongering, I would personally limit my trips to BA, or Rio. Given that it is so hard to get around SP, finding the jewels it is not easy.

Hey CP, thanks for the heads up.

CP
When you mention traffic congestion, can you give numbers maybe. Let's say you're on Ave Paulista, how long does it take to cab to FranceBel? Also I was under the impression, traffic ends at night around 9:30 PM so hombre at night may not have problem finding his way to Cafe Foto or Fazendinha.
FranceBel seems to be straight mp, meaning no interaction before session unlike terma make out marathon. Was there a big drop off in looks between photos and actual garota?

As I said, I was staying with friends so I had to go to the mp during the day.

Traffic during the day is the pits. Even at night things are very spread out, so it still takes time to get there. Cab rides were typically running me $R 25+. I was saying in Sao Caetano on the south side of SP. Any taxi ride starting or ending here has a 50% tax on top of what it says on the taxi meter.

Compared with Rio, things are very close together in Rio when compared with SP. For the last two weeks in Rio, I was with a girl that I met a Centarus last year. She lived in the Lapa district near downtown. A cab from Copacabana to Lapa was usually around $R 15, and usually only took around 20 minutes.

For chasing women, it is much easier in Rio because distances are less, taxi fares cheaper, and the women are prettier, more GFE experiences, etc.

Picture at the massage parlor is what I got, but there was no interaction prior to meeting. Picture was dead on. When you go in it is kind of interesting. They send you in a roon to pick the girl you want from the pictures on the wall. There is a little flag that is red or green. Green and the girl is available. Red and the girl is busy, or not there.

I really found the place as some of the massage places in LA that do full service. Just stick it in, pump for awhile, but no kissing, or much of anything else.

You also pay the massage lady directly like LA.

I mean I wanted to do a pretty lady, which I did, but was sure mechanical.

Obviously, others have had different experiences in SP, but this has been mind. For mongering, I will stick with Rio, and BA.

I was at Cafe Photo about a year ago. The women there were good looking, but it was expensive. You still had to take the girl back to your hotel. As I recall, the cab ride to and from Cafe Foto was a long one.

If I use that as my 3rd SP experience, if you do not know Portuguese like me, and do not know your way around SP, both Rio and Buenos Aires are much easier to get around, and to chase women.

For me personally, you have to work at finding women in SP. This is the opposite of my experiences in both BA and Rio.

Obviously, I am prejudiced towards Rio and BA.