Completing the Grand Slam of World Mongering: FKKs

Summary

I think that serious mongers have to sample four major venues in the hobby: Rio, Thailand, The Philippians, and German FKKs. When you look at it that way discussions about which is better or how FKKs compare to LOS, are a nice diversion, but irregardless you have to go to Germany to try a unique monger venues. That was my thought anyway in visiting the Frankfurt Big Three on a weekend in March, which completed for me my personal Grand Slam.

Aside: Rio and LOS are obvious Grand Slam stops. The other two are based upon something a little different, reviews, and reputation. Tijuana gets probably more reviews than FKKs, but this is mainly locals: nobody flies in just to go to Mexico. Cuba might have been a candidate, if for no other reason than it was hard to get to, but it seems largely shut down. You can argue with my Big Four, if you want, but those are the ones I chose and I think there are valid reasons for them.

I will skip details on how I got there and address the important How to Drive to the FKKs questions; talk about what I liked about FKKs, and address where they disappoint and finish with session details from Oases, Palace, and World.

Your friend, the NAV System and How to find the Clubs

There is no question that finding the clubs is an issue; every report discusses this and tries to provide hints on how to get there. I’ve yet to read a report where someone couldn’t find them, so cheer up. It will likely take you some time on your first visit, so just accept that. I arrived on a Friday evening and so I was in a hurry to get to one, and I gained some frustration from the time it took, so I just suggest you relax and realize it may take a try or two to find them.

The Nav System on your car is the best way to get there, however, I was only able to use it successfully on Day 2 (Palace) and Day 3 (World). I came with print outs of previous reports including the excellent driving directions from Tujunga. In the Airport I bought a 15 Euro spiral Map book that looked to have lots of detail. So I believed that I had two back up systems if the Nav System couldn’t be made to work. A week before my trip I had a friend that has a NAV system here in SouCal show me how it works, so I became familiar with the spell feature of how you enter a town name or street. One of the reports has an excellent link to a description of how Euro NAV systems work, which I recommend you read as well.

When I picked up the car I had the attendant come over and show me how it worked. He reset it in English and then entered in for me the address of the hotel I would be staying in and I was off. (I picked the the Gasthaus in Friedrichsdorf recommended by Tujunga, because he had good directions written out and also directions from the that hotel to Oases.) Leaving the airport quickly was my first big mistake, because I should have had the attendant spend some more time with me, so I could find how to access the main menus, and turn it off, etc. Of course I was so anxious to get going, I sped along. The NAV system was working great and the voice commands helped me navigate out of the airport and onto the A5 heading north very nicely. German roads and freeways are set up differently from American systems and in the dark the voice commands, “Bear Right, Take the Next Left.” were very helpful. I also had Tujunga’s driving directions out so I could assure myself I was moving in the right direction.

I’m sure the NAV system knew what it was doing but I could see that Tujunga wanted me to drive about 25 km North to the exit, while the NAV showed 42km. I began to worry. When TJ’s exit sign appeared I decided to get off and follow the written directions. Probably the NAV was going to bring me in a different way, but 17 clicks is a big difference. I began following the excellent directions to turn, etc and found myself soon in the middle of the town of Friedrichsdorf. However, I was unable to find out how to turn off the NAV and it was constantly telling me to “Make a U-Turn” and so on. At the end of the directions you are to follow the signs in town to the Tujunga’s hotel, but since it was dark I couldn’t see them. I quickly stopped at another Hotel in Town and asked if they knew how to get to the place where I wanted to stay (I had gambled that the place wouldn’t require reservations.) I was very close and soon I had arrived. (I’ll talk at the end of this report about the merits of the hotel to stay at, but I quickly showered and changed clothes and was on the road again following TJ’s directions. When I restarted the car, the NAV asked me if I wanted to resume my route, and I pressed the wrong button so it continued to yell bad directions at me. I did make it to Oases, following the TJ written path, with the only difficult turn being the one prior to the auto garage. There is no missing the place once you are on the final road.

The next day, when I got up I was able to not restart the directions, and figured out how to enter destinations. It is key that you know the right town, since some towns are not listed. One of the reports spelled the town name for World, incorrectly as P O L H E I M, and that town didn’t show up. Later upon rereading all of the reports I saw it spelled correctly with two Hs as: P O H L H E I M and I was able to program in the street address. Palace is in Frankfurt itself, so that is pretty easy to find. Because I had already found Oases I didn’t bother to check how to get the NAV to find it for me.

I didn’t find the computer generated maps useful, but my spiral road maps where useful just so I had a general sense of where I was. Final advice: spend more time at the Rental Car Lot and bring the back up driving directions. You might even have the addresses of the FKKs and let the Rental Car attendant store them in your NAV system memory. Asking directions is also a last resort.
Incidently, I thought Palace was close enough to downtown that you could take a cab if you are in a downtown hotel for business.

WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THE CLUBS

Obviously the nudity is the key part of FKKs. No other venue provides this total and constant means of checking out the goods. You don’t have to make a snap judgment or gauge breast firmness indirectly. Wow it is nice! The initial rush of walking in on a sea of naked women, is terrific. My jeans also get a little tight as I remember walking up to the girl behind the counter at Oases and after she asked me if it was my first time she told me the rates: “Sex is 50 Euros, if you come in the girl’s mouth it is an extra 50,…” You have to love a place where the price list includes CIM! Tell her it is your first time so she’ll show you where everything is.

The second thing I like about FKKs is the fact that the women are mainly Caucasian 1st World (or the East European substitutes) types. I like Asians and Latinas just as much, but it is a nice change to have a venue of European honeys.

Although the price of the whole trip is out of sight, 50 Euro, even with the weak dollar is a good price for a 30 minute session including (generally) dfk, bbbj, and multi position sex.

WHAT I DIDN’T LIKE ABOUT FKKs.

I won’t go into the whole cost issue, but with rent car and meals and hotels and the club costs adding up, this is one expensive hobby weekend. I think this has been covered.

Previous reviews seem to all like the sessions, but I found the majority of my sessions to be disappointments. The girls seem to have a real spirit of “Wham Bam Thank You, M’am” about them. I like the slow making love sessions that you find in Rio, and I thought most girls rushed through the kissing to get onto other things. There were exceptions, and I have some thoughts below about how you can get better sessions.

I think the girls tend to cluster looks wise around 6 and 7, with some 8s. I read reviews where others talk about 9s and pretty high ratings. Maybe that is just me, but like anywhere else, I find about a 1/3 of the women as 6s (Mainly 7 types with flaws such as a big or square ass and often a face that is a little rough) Among the crowd of 7s I am looking for an 8. At Oases, for example there were probably 50 -60 girls there and I though there were less than 10 8 rated girls. There were fewer numbers at Palace, and World I hit on a Sunday afternoon and found less than 10 total girls, with maybe 2 7/8 girls.

The in-between time is boring! You basically can sit, or get a health massage, or walk around or watch porn. Saunas and pools are also available, but few people are using them. I think an internet room would be a good way to pass time, or maybe a couple of tv rooms with sports (although it would be German shit) might help. I think you could fix this problem by meeting other CH members to talk and rate the girls in your in between times.

OASE

I was impressed with the club as my first vist. Later I think I would like the facilities at Palace and World better. There were also the most girls here and enough 8+ girls to get my interest. However, my sessions here were all disappointing.

Oase has large rooms but there are multiple choke points where people gather and you have to squeeze by them to more around. That’s okay with the girls, but you will probably find yourself brushing up against some guy as you move through the bar area or other narrow passages Weirdly, the main shower that guys use between sessions is on one of the routes and girls and other guys are just walking through. You really are in a nudist colony. Oase did have the nicest session rooms, with ceiling mirrors and multiple wall mirrors.

The cash safes are in the bar area, so while you are getting a soft drink you’ll likely see some post session couple trod out with the girl waiting for her money and the dude opening his lockbox to pay her. I would ask several guys how their girl was thinking that would help me make a pick. An oriental American walked out with two thin dark haired girls. One was a real 8, petite, blue eyes, dark hair and very pert A cups with a nice lightly freckled complexion. I asked him about his girls and where they were from. These were the only two German girls I met the whole trip, and the guy told me they were good, but the taller one was best with a really terrific blow job. The tall one had a poor face atop a nice body, and that earned a 6 in my book. However, I passed on my choice if he was going to damn her with feint praise. I then noticed an even more petite dark haired girl who turned out to be Romanian. She took me to a corner in the lounge with the dance poles. She had a couple of Romanian girl friends back with her and we sat down and began to kiss. She introduced me to her best friend, who had a very pretty face but was 30 pounds overweight. Her friend also kissed me, and she was actually the better kisser. Both girls then kissed me at the same time with a great three way going on. This sold me on springing for a 2 girls, and after a limited time in the corner, it was me that suggested we go to the room.

Once in the room the smaller and prettier girl’s energy level went down. They alternated kissing while the other gave a bbbj, which is always a good move. At one brief point they jointly licked the little Jake with their tongues touching each other. On went the rubber and me and the little gal went at it. While I was lying back in cowgirl, the bigger girl said to me: “Now we kiss.” Okay, I indicated, lets do it. “No,” she said, “We (she pointed to the other girl) kiss.” Double Okay. But no, they now wanted 50 Euros for this act. This slightly pissed me off, since I thought the come on action implied that they would include this in their show. They changed the rubber and I went at the bigger girl. Her face was very striking and she kissed like a dream, but I couldn’t handle the sight of doing her large ass in doggie, so we turned over. Unfortunately she moved her bulk too well: I shot ahead of schedule.
The upsell, and false come on, and the downgrade of energy from the small one, caused me to rate the session as flawed.

I did see a Czech 8 who was dancing at the pole. Thin, long red brown curled hair that stuck out to her shoulders, nice still firm tits that had an attractive hang to them. I went up to her, but it turned out that today was her birthday and she was going out with some other girls to eat dinner at a restaurant. She told me that she would be back at 11:00 and would look me up. I recall her name as Helena.

My second session was also a disappointment. I was up at the bar getting a coke when a girl on the bar stool turns to me and gives me a wonderful smile. She was Polish and had a pretty face. I couldn’t really judge her body curled up on the bar stool, but it seems okay. After a short spell I agreed to go with her to the cinema. On the walk over I was disappointed with her body tone, and I should have bailed, but I didn’t have anyone else picked out. We went to the front row and we kissed and she quickly went down on me to get the commitment. On to the room, she kissed for awhile, but she was really selling a cim. I said, what the hell and went for one. She did a good job, but when the moment of truth came she took the first load and allowed the rest to dribble out on me with not even any hand action on her part. She immediately tells me that I am bitter and that I eat too much meat. Well this may be true, but based upon the bodies of the other males in the club, there ain’t a whole lot of fruits and veggies being consumed by customers. So she up sells me and then doesn’t deliver. She did stay and cuddle and lecture me how the Iraq war is all about oil. I’m not going to get into a political argument with a European and I’m not going to find out what happens when you don’t pay for a cim, when you only got a partial.

It was close to 11:00, when I was ready for my third and final session. I thought what are the odds of Helena showing up at 11:00 as she promised so I grabbed a Dom. Rep. thin honey also with light brown tightly curled hair. She had danced on the pole to a salsa song and was very sexy indeed. I rated her an easy 8. I had been approached by a couple of Brazilians and Jamaican and African blacks, but I was dedicated to going for the Euro-babes, however with disappointments I was ready to go for a hot Latin. Although she was proficient and went at it to match me, I still found that her immediate grunting and rush through any sort of foreplay was disappointing. After 2 sessions, I was attuned to going for the full 30 minutes, but I ended up letting her give me a hand job to finish at about the half way mark, because I was disappointed in her spirit and I needed that to shoot my third load of the evening. Of course, I came out of the session and it is now 11:10, and who should now appear but Helena? The little Jake was no way up for a fourth burst that night.

DAY 2 FKK PALACE

I assumed that I wouldn’t be able to use the Nav system and wanted to find an internet connection to double check my back up written directions. The Lindenhof doesn’t have internet and the town it is located in doesn’t have an Internet Café either. The innkeeper suggested that I go into Bad Homburg, the larger adjacent town to find one. I parked and walked on the main street which was for several blocks a pedestrian mall, but despite asking four or five shop keepers nobody seemed to know where an I could find an Internet Café, indeed they didn’t realy seem to understand the concept. Finally I found an outdoor internet machine that would give you a half hour of a hard to see screen while you stand in the cold. Son of a Bitch, but it blocked access to Club Hombre!

I finally got the Nav to work and it accepted the instructions to Palace, which in the end is the easiest to find, anyway. From the A5 you get off and head East on the A66 and get off on the first (?) exit South towards Ludwig-Landmann Str. and bear to your left. The street makes a long easy curve to your left. On the right is a 2-3 story building and the street you turn on Tibiter Str. is a right turn through a tunnel in the building. You are then on Koingstrasse and you’ll see the Palace sign to your right.

I arrived about 3:00 on a Saturday and found the place with only a dozen or so girls and slightly more men. One thing, when you check in the girl behind the counter will ask you your shoe size which is how she assigns you a locker since the lockers are sorted by the size of the sandals inside. Although you could probably give the gal behind the counter your US shoe size and she would be able to convert it, here is a complete conversion list:

SHOE SIZE CONVERSION. U.S.-EUROPEAN...4-36, 5-37, 5.5-38, 6.5-39, 7-40, 8-41, 8.5-42, 9-43, 10-44 11-45, 11.5-46, 12-47, 13-48.

Palace was my favorite place as far as the facilities go. The club is done up in darker colors and is carpeted. The decorating idea of the club is as if you are in a big Persian tent, or something. It feels warmer than Oase’s tile. Additionally it is free of the choke points that restrict movement in Oase. Several of the couches are really padded platforms with pillows against the wall so that you and your selection can stretch out and do some great pre-session cuddling without moving around. Also a couple of the couch things are actually front porch swings and make great napping spots.

I wasn’t really pleased with the initial selection of girls there, only a few and all on the 6/7 line. I sat in the porn theatre and in walked a petite 8. I quickly grabbed her, afraid that she was the only 8 there. She turned out to be Polish and was quite the hustler. She convinced me to move to the smaller porn room behind the pool where we did the deed sort of in public, although no one came in on us. My fault again for allowing the session to rapidly move forward, but she kept trying to sell me on a cim, since she wanted the double fee. I took my time and finally came in LLD (Lay Down Doggie). Her fake groans immediately quit and we went to pay her off. Through the afternoon I would see her again and again at the money lockers as she collected her fee from her active hustle.

One thing about Palace, is about half the girls wear a bottom or have a scarf tied round their middle. I didn’t find this a negative, since most girls are completely shaved or at best have a pencil line of hair above the goods. Except for my final session of the three I had there, I didn’t pick based upon her cooze, so I didn’t find this a big deal. In fact, the coverings provide more variety than seeing all of the slick beavers.

I napped and drank cokes and walked around, again getting a little bored. At one point I went up to the bar for a soft drink and the bartenderess was gone. Out of nowhere a beautiful 8ish blonde comes over and serves me. I pledged to keep an eye out for her, but I lost track of her and was finally trying to decide on who should be session #2. More girls had been arriving so we were probably up to 25 girls by now. After an hour of looking I finally hooked up with the bar blonde – a Czech 8+. She would turn out to be my best session and a top session anywhere. I was laying on one of the platforms on the upper level near the bar and I caught her eye. She came over and laid down next to me, with her nice B cups nestled against my elbow. Vanessa, if I recall her name correctly, was thin and petite. Her coloring was light and her hair thick and sort of stuck out in a sexy way almost to her shoulders. She had one tat on the small of her back of the sun and its rays. Up close I noticed she had inverted nipples, which are so much fun to coax out.

I think this gal just provides good sessions, or maybe she liked me, or maybe I invested in upfront time well, but we spent about a half hour laying on the platform talking and light kissing and finally I suggested we go to a room merely because she had moved from rubbing my towel to pulling out my erection and lightly stroking it. I liked that very much, but preferred to do this away from the open areas.

In the room we engaged in lots of deep kissing and foreplay. She moved down for the bbbj and did a really fine job. I was well on the way to falling in love for the half hour anyway and in a moment of tenderness decided I should pay her double for a cim, so I allowed the bbbj to keep going. Shortly before I was in the final stages she switched, all on her own, to a hj against her soft breasts. I warned I was close, but she didn’t bob down for the 50 Euro finish. I really liked the way she molded her body against mine as she brought me to a great spew. After the paper towel clean up (the Rio hand towels are better) we lay in each others arms and talked. She opened up that she hated Germany, mainly because she associated it with work, work, work. Men, men, men, she compained: Sex, sex, sex. It was really kind of sexy to hear her mildly bitch about the monotony but at the same time hold me so sweetly. As I looked at her I raised her rating to a 9, probably allowing her 10 spirit and personality to influence my judgment of her looks. Isn’t that always the way with girls? Especially when you fall in love with them?

Time was up and I went and got some money and I tipped her 10 Euros extra. As we came out the buffet had opened up and the food looked much better than the stuff I saw at Oase. I went to shower. By the time I came out, the key items in the buffet were gone and I saw Vanessa sitting down with a full plate. Either she takes a quick shower or was eating with traces of my goo still on her breasts.

I decided as a part of avoiding the in club boredom and getting some decent food I would drive out and find a restaurant to eat in. After changing you tell the front desk you are going to return and they give you piece of paper to allow re-entrance and I left to go eat. The main road you came in on, runs downtown very quickly and there were several places to eat along that route. I ended up getting a decent burger in a bar/eatery and I returned with the help of my friend the NAV system.

I was up for another session with Vanessa, but I couldn’t find her. The girl count was probably up to 30 or so, much less than Oase, with no single girl I saw that made me have to have a session with her. I finally picked a very young blonde Romanian mainly based upon her position on the upper platforms: laying back with her legs spread. Another bad choice, which I failed to heed the preliminary warning signs. No real kisses in the prelim! Never the less I took her to a room and enjoyed her smooth young 19 year old body, but without any of the connection that makes a session.

Afterwards, they had another buffet, and I decided to try the food even though I had eaten a burger an hour earlier. Now this was a surreal sight to be standing in line for food with naked girls and dudes in towels. Right in front of me was a guy displaying a couple inches of hairly butt crack. I stood back and waited to get in line behind a tall naked blonde. Much better. As you would pick up your plate and silverwear before you started dishing your food, it was just like a real buffet but only nude! The food was basic but tasty.

Although I cruised around for awhile, not seeing Vanessa or any tempting 8/9 girl, I called it a day after 3 sessions

DAY 3: So Pohlheim has two hs in it!

I was flying to Rome late in the afternoon and was planning on making a Sunday afternoon visit to Oase, but I discovered the spelling error in the instructions to get to World – add the extra H in the first syllable and viola: you have driving instructions. The 40 click drive up the A5 took me out of the boundaries in the spiral map book, so it was good to have the NAV to get me there.

World is interesting being located up a hill in a mini-forested area.

I would rate their facilities as potentially the nicest, although Oase and Palace are not exactly shabby. Their facility appears to be custom built and is very modern. The open windows-to-the-trees is a nice touch as well. I liked the light open feel which was a change from the windowless other places. I would say that the modern décor has an Austin Powers feel to it. Shag-a-delick!

I arrived and started off with a breakfast buffet since I had slept through the hotel’s repast. OK to sort of nice.

There were less than 10 girls here, and I would rate most of them 6s. I am not sure if this is a Sunday afternoon or World in general. I’d bet the day of the week was the primary cause. There was one couch with 3 tall Euro-babes where two of them were 7s. A couple got up leaving the best behind and I moved in. She turned out to be Olga from Minsk and was brunette with large breasts on a body that seemed 6’ tall. Not my type since I prefer petite, but a nice change. We kissed for a while and talked. It turns out she used to work at Atlantis and she gathered the impression that I had been at Atlantis as well. I also told her I lived in London and came to Frankfurt twice a month on work, so that she might treat me as potential repeat biz. Sorry to lie!

The session was very nice. Lots of good quality kissing. The session rooms there appear to have curtins instead of doors, so I would imagine at a more active time of the day you would hear lots of screaming and moaning. I elected to finish cim which she did very well. Again with the paper towels! I reassessed her as a borderline 7/8, which was probably the session speaking.

After I walked around but couldn’t find anyone worth doing. Olga told me that there wouldn’t be many more girls coming in until late in the afternoon, and I needed to be on a flight to Rome, so I ended up leaving. On the way to the airport, the NAV system seemed to throw a final fit and yelled directions to the train station.

FINAL THOUGHTS

As I said, spend the time in the airport to learn the NAV system fully. Tijunga’s hotel was cheap and I had no problems with it, but I would spend the time on the internet looking for either a Gasthaus equipped with internet, or maybe stay at a hotel. Friedrichsdorf had a Mercure tower close by the gasthaus. This is a low cost chain, although I couldn’t see that their website showed internet on this location. The tower has a red sign on the top and can be seen while driving around at night, which is when you would be returning so there is an advantage to staying there The location of F’dort is good though, makes it easy to get to Oase and you are not in the middle of Frankfurt.

I would suggest that you develop a planned routine to select your girls. This probably means getting comfortable with her playing with your dick in public since that seems to be a part of the scene. Test her out for kisses and what ever else you like. If you are into hard porno action sex, then she’ll likely give an imitation of that. I thought telling her that you come to town frequently is worthwhile, just like in Rio you always say you’ve been there before and that you have two more weeks before you go home. I noticed that many of the German guys spent some time conversing with the girls which I should have done more of. (In the showers I also noticed that most of the younger Germans had shaved their pubes. Weird country.)

If you are heading to somewhere else on work or play and you can stop over for one day, then I would suggest you look into a cheap hotel room and taking a cab to Palace, and sample this unique venue. By skipping the car you could save some money, however I don’t think it is practical to take public transportation to the other two locations: too far and you’ll be getting out of them late at night, etc.

I have decided that I will make a repeat visit sometime in the future; probably to the Koln/Dusseldorf area. After all, there is nothing anywhere else in the world like an FKK. You have to hand it to the Germans

Jj, I've also done your un-official quadruple grand-slam. And in fact just got back from FKKing in FRA yesterday.

Though I have yet to set foot, or really my "pecker" in Palace yet. My weekend trips for FKKing involve me spending a day in Oase, and the other at World. I was gonna try out Palace, but according to my friends, to them it came in last in the most important area "talent".

Since I earn my salary in dollars, I don't seek CIM, or more than one girl at a time. I can get those in Brasil or Thailand, better and cheaper.

Performance wise, Brazilians "cum" in first. Look's-wise, the Euro chicks are first!

My two cents worth. Enjoy life:-)

Sf4dfish:

Not to nitpick but a grand slam because of its baseball origin implies a quadruple.

I will wait on rating the 3 clubs until I´´ve had the chance to visit World more fully and maybe try Palace on a Friday night. For this trip, Oasis did have the largest and best selection of talent, although I didn´t have a first rate session here. I think Palace has to be considered one of the better choices since it is close to downtown Frankfurt and so is an available option to anyone staying overnight on a biz trip. The facilities are good too.

Two girls is comparable in an FKK to a Terma at only 50 Euro vs. 120 Realis? However, you won´t get hit for up charges in a Terma and you can spend more time checking out the interaction before moving to the room. I don´t generally find cim to be widely available in Rio, it is rare enough for the Agency girls to be specified as oral completa, while $65 seems reasonable to have the option to spew down a European girl's throat.

No doubt the Brazilians perform best; but I think that the top lookers in Rio are sexier than the good looking blondes of Europe. At least a tie, with the attitude giving the cariocas the edge.

Thanks for the feedback. I guess I really should have gotten some photos to stimulate CH interest. :-)

HI,
I've been to rio a few times and love the women down there.How does costa rican women stack up to the european women or the rio girls?

Mike, IMO Ticas don't stack up at all with Euro or Brazilian women, in general.

Messing around Europe, let's say Germany and its FKK's, you're gonna need to rent a car with nav system. But doing some FKK-ing is a whole lot of fun, albeit at a premium.

You may find a hottie or two in C.R., and most likely they're Colombianas. Look's like you've never been to C.R.? Maybe try Colombia?

How were the Brasileras for you?

jjgettis:

Great report. This one is a little different than the previous FKK recaps, and adds to my understanding.

Arch

Great report. FKK-WORLD missing. Prices same as OASE. Place much bigger and elegantly custom built, BUT TOUGH TO FIND without GPS. Prices same as Oase. Many girls ex-Atlantis as good as OASE. MY encounters varied from good to excellent and none of the girls seem to batching time. OLGA (22) from MINSK tall redhad terrific company and passsionate devouring kisser. Mirina, biology student from Rumania, attractive slender dark blonde, obviously newbee, was into everything and anything with total feminine grace.Stay away from the Polish contingent of very street experienced hookers. Though quite attractive with tattooed bodies they are too crude for my taste (unlike women in Poland)