I just got back from Angeles City. If it wasnt for this website, I would have never have gone.

It all started back in January when I wondered into a local post office and applied for a passport. A few weeks later I wandered where I should go. I considered Europe and then I imagined all my other trips in life where I spent lots of time and money for little ass. Then I came upon this website and knew what I had to do. I immediately ordered 125 condoms from www.condomdepot.com, the Durex type. Sorry guys, I take no chances.

I was somewhat apprehensive at first when I landed in the phils, never been out of the country. However, everyone was so nice and helpful. All of my money was stuffed in my socks and hidden in various other places, but I soon found out that I had no need to worry about getting robbed. In fact, security in Angeles was tight and there were at least 4 armed guards at the hotel at any given time.

No sooner had the bags been dropped in my room and I was out on the town. Wandered into Las Vegas club and found one 20 year old immediately to take back to the room. We had several good sessions all night long.

After that night, I went crazy. The body count after 8 days was 16 women done in various manners. I had a few 3somes where the women supposedly had invited over their cousins from the bar. The women ranged in age from 18-32 and weights from 70-100 lbs.

I had read all of the trip reports before I went on mine and I have the following to add that might be helpful to the next traveler:

- DUREX! This is the condom of champions. It will not break. I changed mine every 15-20 minutes and used lubrication. I ended up using almost all 125 condoms.

- The women who are certified by the government to work in clubs carry these colorful identification cards that are usually tied to their bikinis. The women basically go to a clinic each week to get visually inspected by a doctor, a "hygeine check". They get blood tests once a year. The cards carry the womans name, age and picture. As well, look closely at the top right. If there is a V followed by some numbers, for example, V-12345. That means the woman is a cherry girl.

- Tipping is a personal decision subject to debate. Consider this fact, however. Most of the bar girls have kids and never finished high school. Most are truly needy and live in these group houses that are owned or rented out by the bar. These houses do not resemble a college sorority house, rather, more like a set for a "Save the Children" commercial. I was taken to the house run by the Cambodia club and it was a two floor shanty with homemade bunk beds everywhere. It was disgusting and apalling by Western standards. I dont even consider tipping tipping in the Phils, but rather a contribution. If I get ripped off out of a few pesos by the girls, so be it, they will need it to feed and cloth their children. At least its better then giving to UNICEF where your cash goes to Kofi Annan. In that respect, my mongering around the phils is not just a sexcapade, but a humanitarian mission in itself.

- The ATMS accepted my card just fine. The trike drivers knew where all the banks were and I had no problems in that respect.

- I felt the Orchid Inn was an excellent pick for a first trip. The room was clean, nice and close to everything. The staff was very friendly and catered to my needs just fine. I loved the food there and did not get sick from anything on the menu. Security wasnt a concern as there were armed guards at each entrance. The Flamingo Club is right on the premises and, for the lazy man, you can just walk a matter of feet out of the room and get to the girls.

- There was no one club, for me, that had the best women. I found that each club had its share of porkers and fine looking ones. My preference was for the sub-100 pound crowd. I got pickier as the trip progressed and found myself bouncing around from bar to bar to find my best picks.

- The Dollhouse is open 24 hours and could not find any other that was open as long. This was important when I wanted to get laid at 7am. Well, the crowd of women wasnt always the best, but at 7am I am not that picky.

- All the bargirls seem to know each other and never forget anything. Dont piss anyone off or else you might get blackballed. Towards the end of my stay in Angeles, I had to walk around certain clubs as there were some girls that just got too attached to me. When they saw me with other barfines, they started chanting "see how you are!".

- Letting the girls stay with me the night and hanging out the next day seemed cool at first, but I soon found myself paying for breakfastes and lunches. They were also robbing me of valueable mongering time. Lets face it, will I see these girls again, maybe, but probably not. Will I take any of these girls back to the states, definately not. I could have used the money from the meals and lost time to go find some new barfines, especially now with the 24 hour Dollhouse. I should have told the girls from the start that I just wanted 3-4 hours of their time.

- I didnt have too many problems with the girls, but the most common situations seemed to be menstruation, leaving too early, attachment, and shyness/lack of performance. I found out that its best to sit down with the girls first before you take them from the bar, talk with them for about 5 minutes and freely discuss all these topics. Never get frustrated or yell at the girls, just consider it a business loss and move on. Remember the armed filipino guards at the entrances to the Orchid Inn. I dont think they would take to my side of the story.

This was the best trip I have taken so far. I am fully ready to go on a second trip to Angeles. I saw a lot of older folk there, but this is not just a trip for the older crowd. I think if you are young and/or about to get married then now is the time to go. Get out all your curiosities and fantasies now!

As soon as you get there, hit the streets and do not delay. Dont waste your time chatting with the hotel staff, making calls to family or conversating with other mongers. I saw a lot of guys hanging out at the cantina for hours waiting for what? Just hit the clubs, throw down your 1200 pesos and be off for good "boom boom". Your vacation time will soon be over and if you didnt get enough then it sucks to be you.

Great report and love your enthusiasm. Hell I agree with your approach that if my interest in a bar fine greatly diminishes after dropping the first load, then bye bye. However I generally don't tip in these circumstances.

As for finding the early morning salami sleeve, those bars on Santos also have round the clock service and you can take away as well.

Sounds like you didn't make it out to the Perimeter bars. There are some fun places out there that are happening in the day time.

As for getting stuck buying breakfast and lunch for the previous nights barfine, I guess you didn't think to catagorize that expenditure as a "food credit" whose value can be applied directly against the girls tip.

As for wasting time talking with other male mongers, I can see you haven't had the pleasure of the breakfast time show 'n' tell with Epi yet.

Thanks again and keep burning rubbers dude!

Goodtimes

Great report

I always enjoy reading the newbie reports as they have a sense of freshness and wonder that us "Old Pros" have lost long ago.

Also good to see a sensible dude who wraps up ole Mr. Johnson when out on the town. Not that there is much choice in AC anymore as the girls insist on condoms almost universally now. Many of the bars in fact give them to the girls as they leave on their barfines. I'm a born again condom freak myself.


" 4 armed guards at the hotel at any given time"

That's only because you stayed at an Aussie hotel where they are constantly breaking up fights between rival Rugby crews after the latest test.

At the more civilized hotels they have no need to pack a gun.

To quote AndresB Where's the pics ??

MX
That was probably all of US he saw wasting all our time comparing notes about the night before.

It certainly is a valuable part of any real mongering experience. The ultimate in one- upmanship to see if you can top the story just told.

Lost my freshness? I am awakened everytime I pull down their cotton panties! And I shower beforehand also

Great report Goodtimes, you got me missing AC. Las Vegas is a go-go I actually frequent, usually with the Barfines. Good music and setup IMO, and there's plenty of room to dance along the side and lots of mirrors, up the stairs.

KM, most of those guards have guns, but no bullets.

KM

"I'm a born again condom freak myself."

Ahahahahahahahahaha!! C HOW U R

MX

"I guess you didn't think to catagorize that expenditure as a "food credit" whose value can be applied directly against the girls tip."

Funny shit. We'll both be a hundred, sitting outside My Friend U bar, laughing over this one. It will not die... and that's a good thing.

"As for wasting time talking with other male mongers, I can see you haven't had the pleasure of the breakfast time show 'n' tell with Epi yet."

Methinks we ALL have a few stories to tell over breakfast the next morning. Always a pleasure to hear how much fun everyone's had.

GT

Great report. Allow me to mention a few things:

"The trike drivers knew where all the banks were and I had no problems in that respect."

That's right, they know where all the ATMs are and have a REAL good idea that you just drew out anywhere from 1-4 months salary and have it stuffed in your pockets. If I might be so bold as to recommend having the hotel arrange a driver for you - significantly more secure and not terribly expensive. I'm certain Josie, Norma or one of the other front office staff can easily arrange this for you.

"All the bargirls seem to know each other and never forget anything."

These bargirls have memories like elephants. On my last trip I was getting shit from girls I met 3 years ago - didn't even fuck - just bought drinks for or barfined their friends. You shouldn't experience this the way I have, but worth noting for future trips.

"I immediately ordered 125 condoms from www.condomdepot.com, the Durex type. Sorry guys, I take no chances."

Yeah, I remember moving lots of condoms across the Pacific Ocean in my bags my first few trips as well. Now I just buy them in town... if required. Must be getting lazy in my old age, eh?

Looks like you had fun. Keep up the good work.

E

Great report, thanks, and it sounds like you had a good time and will be back soon.

I don't think anyone will have any problem with you being generous when tipping girls as long as you were happy with them and feel they earned it. I don't think you have to delve deep into their living conditions to justify it, though. It's not like your tips are going to get them to move into a nice apartment, more likely it will be spent on getting a nicer cellphone or sending money home so she can support a large extended family that doesn't work while their little girl is sent off to AC to suck strange dicks. As it is, via salary plus commissions alone, the girls are earning FAR more than the average worker in the Phils, and that's before they get any money from barfines. If you want to do charity work, good for you, but surely you can find a better way.

To MongerX and Epi, re: "food credit", laugh it up, hahaha. It's hard fuckin' WORK being the cheapest guy on the PLANET!

If you cum in her mouth, and she swallows, does that ALSO qualify as "food credit"? I just wanna make sure I have all this straight for my memoirs...

E

GT,

Most interesting report from a fresh perspective. On the "poverty" and poor slum conditions that you saw, its no worse than what there is out there across much of Asia's poor neighbourhoods.

Alone, you cannot change their lifestyle but I am sure a minority few will know how to use the money more wisely although Porker is right in that most will be wasted on undeserving relatives and other "hanger ons" and "leaches."

I too am motivated to check out AC for what it has to offer at those bargain basement prices and will post my owm impressions when I have been there for this forthcoming confirmed TigerAirways cheap flight into the heart of mongerland Phils.

Epi
"If you cum in her mouth, and she swallows, does that ALSO qualify as "food credit"? I just wanna make sure I have all this straight for my memoirs... "

If Bill Clinton can get a $5million publishers advance on his memoirs, you'll likely do as well on yours.

DG

DeeG

Unfortunately, I've not really attained anything for me to lose, so even with the help of a "Lewinski" type scandal to aid in the "fall from grace", there's no place for me to really "fall". I never started out all that high up and the slide down into this degrading lifestyle I currently enjoy was no real surprise to ANYONE.

I suppose I could try to work the "creative content" angle like you...

E

I am planning my next trip back already and my only problem is the airfare. I paid $1000 roundtrip on Cathay Pacific last time. What is the best source for airfare? I would really like to travel Cathay Pacific again because it was first rate service.

Epi

"the slide down into this degrading lifestyle I currently enjoy was no real surprise to ANYONE. "

You're funny. Why am I picturing you as a teenager, hanging out at the Catholic Girls High School with mirrors on your shoes?

"I suppose I could try to work the "creative content" angle like you... "

Do NOT sink to that level. You're depraved enough already.

DG

I was gonig to avoid condom comments, but what the hell...

KM-- they insist on them and your born again? I agree with epi, hahahaha. I've not had one girl insist on a condom in AC in let's see 2 years... Around 80% try to get me to cum IN them... I guess they want a bunch of lil' DM's running around?

Epi-- Buy them in town? Degrading lifestyle? I thought you were a phtographer capturing the plight of bargirls around SEA?

GT: Cathay kinda blows-- if you were impressed with them, just about any carrier to MNL will please u.

DM

"Now I just buy them in town... if required."

Ain't packing ANYTHING in my bags that can't be purchased by the girl putting on her clothes and going around the corner to Family Mart. If SHE wants it she better provide.

"I thought you were a phtographer capturing the plight of bargirls around SEA?"

Yes, my friend, I was put on this earth to record the plight of the SEA bargirl for all like-minded perverts to enjoy.

Deeg

"Why am I picturing you as a teenager, hanging out at the Catholic Girls High School with mirrors on your shoes?"

Funny you should mention that - I actually attended Catholic elementary and high school. I can PROUDLY say that of all the perverts that have come out of the Catholic school system I'm the success story. Of course, this is cumPLETELY dependent on how you operationally define "success"...

"Do NOT sink to that level. You're depraved enough already."

Methinks the differences between us are I prefer stills to video, you have your own URL and you get model releases for your pics/vids. That's the NEXT step for me... Muahahah

E

>>>If you want to do charity work, good for you, but surely you can find a better way.

Well, you may be right. But show me another charity that gives you BJ's for your donations.

DM

You keep talking like that and your gonna get a stern lecture again. I was just pointing out that the " NEW " AC is not then BB paradise it once was. Lots of little bugs out there already.

We wouldn't want a flock of Morons (or is it Mormons I get them confused) flooding AC looking for uncovered pleasure would we ??

"We wouldn't want a flock of Morons (or is it Mormons I get them confused)"

I resemble that remark. Mormons deserve as much fun as the rest of you lost souls.

And let the record show that I wore my condom while in Rio last year. By the 8th time I used it, it was starting to get worn a little thin, but I kept using it nonetheless.


BW

I just want to add that there are armed guards ALL OVER the Phils. Just walk down any commercial street in Manila--almost every door is guarded. Makes me a little nervous--what if one of those no-doubt well-trained guards decides to use his weapon?

Doubt he would hit anything he was aiming at so you only gotta worry if your're across the street or far away from his target.

the two girls that I have barfined both asked me to use a condoma and even brought some in their purse....I think I have had that happen twice in maybe 200 barfines in AC. I think the girls are becoming more professional now and dont want to be stuck with kids no knowing who the father is...I have also heard girls talking about foreigners having diseases...of course this is totally perpetuated by their local dirtbag Filipinos who want to find any kind of rumour to keep them away from our bare units.

By the way, I forgot that it is a Holy Week this week and most of the girls are gone...on my first trip I remember not wanting to come back because the talent was so scarce...well the talent is even more scarce now...even Blue Nile has maybe 10 girls dancing at the same time and only one looked hot...its making me want to get to Singapore earlier than my planned travel date. The good side is that Don Marco and I have been having a blast barhopping and have been torturing the girls.

This is a highly sensitive topic on here and I know I will be flamed on the message board, but its a very important topic too that shouldnt be ignored so I will accept the risk of flamage.

Some of the girls I had barfined had said the word "condom" and some didnt bring the topic up at all. I am not a big fan of condoms and dont normally use them in the United States. I guess I am guilty of the unprotected fun from time to time. On this trip, however, I was the condom champ and whipped them out whether they asked or not.

Consider these facts (if you live in America):

-Each state in America has its own laws in regards to child support. There are some states that will send you to jail if you dont pay and/or garnish your salary.

-Your ability to remain anonymous in the Phils is questionable at best. You checked into the hotel, filled out their information questionaire, and maybe even dropped your credit card # to pay for the hotel bill. You may have shown the hotel your passport or told them the airline you flew in on (which will definately have your passport information). You also may have left your email address behind with the hotel. You may have told the bargirl who you work for, where you live, your full name, gave her your real phone # at home etc. The local filipino government could probably easily obtain all of that information either through court order and/or other means (i.e.bargirl sends a bribed policeman who demands the information from the front desk). In any event, the information you gave to the hotel and/or airline will not be protected in the same manner as it is here in the states.

-The bargirl probably will either have friends and/or relatives here in states. They also have access to google.com which can take them to several child support websites to learn the laws. They might even find an attorney who will work on contigency and take a percentage of the child suppport payments when they collect it off of you.

- Citizens and non-citizens can bring lawsuits against you in U.S. Courts.

When you dont use condoms, you not only run the risk of disease, but you also run the risk of kids. I know several guys that pay huge child support payments each month for kids they hardly see. As well, a word about disease. You really dont know who these girls were with or what type of disease they maybe carrying around. We do know that the guys they were with before were probably with multiple other barfines. That black pornstar in the US had brought home HIV from Brazil and easily infected a few others before he was found out.

My preference is to make an experience like this as fun as possible without worrying about the consequences. I dont prefer to use condoms myself, but I would rather use them then risk a child support payment for some kid that I will never see or some weird disease. I have not used condoms myself in the past with girls I hardly knew, but this trip was just too much of a risk and I felt better throwing one on.

So its up to you to use condoms or not, but by not using them, you take a chance. To myself, that risk is unacceptable considering I am going to have sex with some woman from a third world country that openly engages in the act of prostitution.

well, take it from an attorney who has a large number of international jurisdictional cases dealing specifically with Department of Child Support Services here in the States. A woman whom is not a resident of the United States and has a child whom does not reside in the United States has no subject matter jurisdiction to open a file in the United States for child support. She cannot receive child support from a man living in the United States while she lives in the Philippines....ever. Unless he voluntarily pays her of course. She can however open up a child support case in the Philippines but can only continue to have the case heard if she can have personal jurisdiction over the foreigner by serving him with paternity papers in the Philippines ONLY. These girls are not smart enough to know your whereabouts every time you enter the Philippines and IF she does happen to find you, then you would have to pass the paternity test and they would use the standard of living in the Philippines as a basis for determining how much you should pay. Now they have no way of enforcing this judgment if it happens because American companies will not honor a wage garnishment from a foreign child support judgment and liens can be contested on in rem jurisdiction requirements and won...been there done that.

There are portions of the Hague convention that allows a foreign judgment to be entered in the United States but only if the Custodial mother LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES AND SO DOES THE CHILD.

The caveat to this is that you probably would want to voluntarily pay for child support IF AND ONLY IF the girl can prove paternity. Girls emailing you and telling you that they are pregnant with your child is the biggest Filipina scam ever...they've been doing it since the military had men stationed here going bareback and it is normally the local dirtbag Filipino who gets them pregnant and the scam begins.

Another thing to consider is that you might want to limit any information you give to the girl. Dont give them your email address or full name and make sure that the hotel is secure with your information. I normally give fake address and phone numbers with the hotel and give fake names with the girls. If the girl is constantly and relentlessly asking about personal and specific information, then she is trying to set you up for future support payments from a baby that doesnt exist. If she does contact you and she is certain that you are the father. Have her send you doctor's receipts or documents demonstrating she is pregnant and get paternity tests done. If she balks at giving you specfic information then you know the scam is on and ignore her while she sends emails to other foreigners telling them the same story. Don't feel sorry for these girls as they are normally lying once their lips are moving.

I think I am going to invoke the double V.

Viagra and Vasectomy. Now I only have to worry about them pesky pathogens. Now most folk who harp on about them are really saying what you are doing is dirty, disgusting and despicable. They are hanging on them as a justification for their "moral revulsion". Rather dishonest.

Now I know that those pathogens are real and out there. What is missing is real risk analysis. Allot of folk have tried to trot out some so-called "percent chance of infection per" crap but they are all so riddled with fallacies and agendas that they are meaningless. There are Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.

I, personally, have several risk factors to prematurely end my life or detrimentally impact my quality of life that far exceed the risks faced from boinking bargirls bareback. I am going to address those.

Now if you bring a STD into your family, you are a fuckwit. Take some personal responsibility about who you are and what you are doing. If there are other people that are impacted by what you do and you are dishonest about it, you have no integrity.

Me, if a bargirl asks if I was bareback with someone else, I reply that I do not discuss what I do sexually with others and if she is not comfortable, she can leave.

Blazer,

I not only dont trust anyone in the Phils, but I dont trust anyone here in the states as well. Remember that guy in Greece who roamed the streets with a lantern all night and couldnt find the honest man? Well, I dont think I could find one here in my homestate even if I searched all year with google.com.

Smitopher,

Remember that teacher in high school who waived around the petri dish, left it out all night and then its all fuzzed out when you got there the next day? This is going to happen to your dick if you dont wrap it up right.

Goody my good man...

Get some therapy. If it does not help, at least it will keep you busy.

smit-- kudos on your ethics.

DM

My Doc gave me some ointment to rub on my ethics and soon they should not bother me any more...

Smitopher>>>My Doc gave me some ointment to rub on my ethics and soon they should not bother me any more...

Brilliant, LOL

I just have got to add my 2 cents worth on this subject. I would not preach to anyone--as my grandmother used to say, "the pot calling the kettle black." But I suggest you consider the life-long consequences of what you say you are doing. And if you do catch it--and I believe it will happen eventually, if you continue doing what you are describing--bargirls bareback--you stand an excellent chance of sharing your good fortune, at home and abroad. Is it worth it? Personally, I feel superior enough to those poor girls to trust my judgement better than theirs.

Personally, I feel superior enough to those poor girls to trust my judgement better than theirs.

Man, does that say alot.

Indeed. I was going to comment, but ...

"Indeed. I was going to comment, but ..."

... but you did...

So - the girls in Batam treating you good?

E

Yes jedi Epi, I did make a "comment", however I did not share "THE" comment that I had originally intended. Boy o boy, how I do miss drinking with one so literal Why don't u get your ass on the plane and hit batam this week?

The girls-- well I spoke too soon. After enduring strolling about 20 minutes in this sweltering heat with Porker, we discovered the booking joints are closed today. U know how I feel about breaking a sweat out of bed...


Didi at the hotel is on vacation for 2 days (the young chinese counter girl from last trip, hollywood is closed (my "never seen white meat" hottie), so it looks like a work day and then disco at night.

my disco gal last night rocked the matress for 1 SOG, then I got a good sleep.

-DM

DM

Would KILL for a ticket to S'pore right now, but that just ain't in the works. Gonna try to stay on target for a June 10th landing in LoS.

Closed booking joints - BUMMER. With the lack of "other" entertainments in Batam methinks you all are spending time getting VERY bored with each other, eh? How about Porker and those rum & cokes...

E

The booking joints in Batam being closed was indeed a severe bummer, turns out Good Friday was some sort of holiday in Indonesia as well. The places apparently DID open at 6 PM, and supposedly several back doors were opened to an early arriving Singapore holiday crowd before that. Luckily my room service request finally got fulfilled on the third attempt, and "Jenny" arrived at my doorstep much as she did 8 months ago.

Did you find Orchid Inn to be noisy at night? I am interested in that place for 1st time visit but being well known Punter hotel, was thinking it may be hard to get some quality shut eye. Orchid Inn sounds decent but I get tired of dealing with trike rides.

The inside hallway of the front building of the Orchid Inn is EXTREMELY noisy. If peace and quiet are important to you, you do NOT want one of those interior rooms. Unfortunately, you may not end up knowing where your room will be until you actually arrive.

The newest rooms in the back building have a separate name, either Hibiscus or Jasmine wing, but I'm not sure which. Someone else will need to help you with that info.

I still would recommend the Orchid for a first time visitor to AC, but I keep hearing complaints about their customer service being quite bad, almost shockingly bad at times. Their attitude seems to be 'we're OVERbooked, so why sweat the little problems?' -- completely ignoring the fact that to the GUEST those problems ain't little.

The newer back building is the Jasmine wing. My room was on the third floor in the back.It was very quiet and comfortable. I did not like the bed much though. Hard foam mattress --good Queen size ,but too hard for my liking. You get the sore hip syndrome that Don Marco has referred to.

All in all though a good hotel .

Besides the terrible matress, I really have no complaints about Orchid and like it there a lot. I've had very good service from the hotel each and every time.

Orchid it will be. I'm gonna book WAY in advance, through the web site/email so hopefully no problem. I'm gonna request Jasmine wing, flor 3 in the back. (Ironically when I get to AC the request will be for hole 3, in the back, from the bar girls). If anyone had a booking better method (ie. through travel agent like Bee Line, phone call, carrier pigeon or something, please let me know.) Thx.

Goodtimes,
Outstanding TR, loved reading it. I've always wanted to check out AC but never have, i go to Thailand twice a year and TJ Mexico often but never AC.

I'm making my first trip to AC in September, can't wait, i'm only going for 5 days and spending the rest of the 3 week vacation in Thailand and possibly Cambodia.

Your TR is very helpful and informative, loved reading it.

BTW, love the comment about Unicef and Kofi Annan, very true. I think alot of those charites are scams and I would rather give it to the people who really need it instead of paying some crooks Lexus payment. I'm not a political guy but i am the "Master debater".

Thanks for sharing a great TR.
cheers
kj