I spent 3 evenings in Sao Paulo last week. This is my 3rd trip there. In the past, I was mainly limiting my activities to the Clinica (Massage Parlors). But I went to two night clubs this week and I am thoroughly impressed!

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Here is a summary:

First Night: FranceBel
http://www.francebel.com.br/english/index.htm

It is a very reputable "massage clinic" near the Congonhas aeroporto. Many people seem to think FranceBel's girls are on par with the highend girls at Cafe Foto and I tend to agree. Bring a map with you since most taxi drivers don't konw where it is.

The drill is, they give you a metal card with a number in the entrance. The interior decor is upscale. You go to a photo gallery with walls full of pictures of the girls. These are glamour pictures which mean the extra fat and other undesirable features are expertly hidden, so the same skill you use the scruntinize escort web pics apply here. Next to each girl's section, there is a smilie tag. :-) means she is available. :-( means she is busy. :-) turned sideway means she is almost free.

Once you indicated to the lovely attendent your choice, you are led to a room to wait for your gal. The room is very clean. Has a massage table, a double bed with good fresh linen on the floor, and a very clean ajoining toilet and shower.

I picked Deborah and she was as good as the picture shown. I have to say it is hit and miss here though. In the past, I have selected girls that look great in the pic but turned out to be fat. Anyway, Deborah started with a decent massage. 20 minutes later it was time to flip and start the real game. She asked what I want. You see, the R120 covers the room and the massage. Everything else is strictly between you and the girl. The going rate is R150 to R200 for full service. This is the second time I have seen Deborah now in the last six months. THe service is as usual great. Many positions. Super responsive. A little too passive though. She has a great bod, good muscle tone, beautiful green eyes, 22yo, 5'4". She loves cowgirl and has some magic in moving her body and she must have 6 or 7 positions while she is on top to keep things fun.

When leaving, she once again reminded me not to tell the other girls that she provides Full Service. It is quite funny that EVERY girl I have seen there would ask you to keep it a secret. Yet, EVERY SINGLE GIRL that I have seen there provides full service. What's up with that?
Anyway, total bill was R120 for the room and massage, plus R150 for the girl.

Here is a picture of the room. Deboarah didn't want her pic taken so I respected her wish.



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Evening 2: Moulin Rouge

My local Sao Paulo friends too me to Moulin Rouge. It is a 2nd tier night club (Cafe Foto and Bomboa being 1st tier). Facility is okay and not filthy, thank goodness. On the ground floor, there is a stage for strip show, a dance area, a bar, a food bar, a pool table, and couches spread out the place. We arrived around 10pm and there were about 60 girls there and 40 guys. Most of the girls are 6s and 7s. A handful of 8s and a couple of stunners. My over zealous friend was too eager to make me happy and kept introducing me to girls. I didn't have the heart to turn them down and thank goodness finally they introduced me to somewhat that I liked - Simone.

Simone is 24, single mother of one. She is shy. Pretty face. Cute smile. 5'5". Great body except from a bit of a tummy. Sexy long legs. Smooth skin. Extremely attractive waist/butt line. I can doggie her all day long.

My friends tried to arranged an orgy where the 3 of us can all gangbang away in the room. I am shy about this and finally decided to get my own room. The rooms are upstair and as far as I can see they only have a few (unlike Bomboa were they have 3 floors of rooms). The room is not as clean and bright as Francebel, but better than say Centaurus and 4x4.

After shower and taking some pictures, the action begun. She started a great BJ. Told me to lie down and teased by nipple with her tognue. Kissed me all over. Mounted me cowgirl and we kept on that position for a while. We then switched to miss, doggie, and I flipper her over again and picked her up an grind her against me. She was literally dripping at this point and really got into it. I guess her favorite position is cowgirl because when she really peaked, she pushed me onto the bed, mounted me on top, arched her back using her arms to support her weight behind her, and then started sliding in and out at 45 reverse degree angle. The view of her great bod, hair weaving back & forth on her face, her tender tits bouncing... man that was a great sight! We both came to an explosive finish, me slightly behind her. But her climax really made me peaked out.

Anyway, the total bill: R150 for Simone (R100 would have been fine but I tipped her R50). R68 for the house which included the room plus 4 drinks. GREAT PRICE!

Here are 3 pics of Simone:

Photos: Simone 01 02 03

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Evening 3: Bomboa
http://www.bomboa.com.br

This was my last evening in Sampa. Because of the good experience with Moulin Rouge, I decided to check out Bomboa which is supposed to be even better than Cafe Foto according to some Hombre reports. I picked Bomboa over Cafe Foto mostly because it has on-site rooms. The hotel I was staying had a no guest policy.

Arrived around mid-night. The place is very busy. About 100 girls (not kidding), but about 120 guys. The quality definitely is much better than Moulin Rouge, both the facility and the girls. The girls are mostly 7s or 8s, with a bunch of 9s.

I have a 9:30am meeting tomorrow so I scouted around quickly and immediately identified 3 or 4 targets. After feeling up all of 4 of them, I picked Yan (pronounced "Ed-anne"). She is petite, 5'2", DDG face, tiny waist, flat stomatch and sexy curve, and a 32C (or even D). She is a darker skin. But just beautiful. (See pics.) She looks 19 but is really 24.

I was concerned that since she is pretty and young, she might lack in the service department. But once we go upstair, she turned out to be a total GFE. Deek passionate FK. I used my nipple teasing skill to the max and she was literally dripping within a minute. I put a condom in my fingers and started fingering while keep sucking/teasing her nipples. That drove her to a wild climax with some wet spots on the bed. It was then my turn to be serviced. Again, very safe practice and started with a CBJ. Then she started riding me cowgirl but with 6 or 8 differnet variations in positions. I guess the Brasilian does a really good job with cow girl action. There were mirros on the wall and on the ceiling, and the view was very memorable. Did a bunch of positions and finally came to another grand finish. She was very responsive and very vocal thru out. I managed to take a video clip of when I was nearing finish. But Fototime doesn't allow video clip so I need to figure out how to post it.

All and all, another 9/9/9 experience. Bomboas is a little more expensive and it is considered top tier. Cover charge was R70, room fee was R100 plus R20 service fee, and I gave Yan R150.


Here are some pics of Yan:

Photos: Yan 04 05 06

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I am heading to Rio now. In summary, I wished I am staying in SP for a few more nights! I always liked the Cafe Foto setup but disliked the fact that they don't have room on site like the Termas in Rio. But my new discovery of places like Bomboa, Moulin Rouge (and other places in SP like Bahamas). These are very good alternatives to the Rio Termas! The Cafe Foto and Bomboa are actually large scale operations and the girls are more plentify and quality better even than 4x4 and Centaurus in Rio. So, I am now thinking, my next hobby trip might be spending more time in SP than Rio. The flight from SP to Rio is cheap anyway (US$100 or so). And it normally cost about the same when you request to fly in to SP and fly out of Rio (if you have a good travel agent).

I have 7 evenings in Rio coming up. See my other upcoming report.

Cheers,

SJ

Good report! Next time you may want to try Connection and Cafe Millenium, although unlike Rio there are so many choices in SP it is hard to run out of new places to visit.

Which hotel did you stay at? The conventional wisdom is all the hotels allow garotas, so I am surprised (and curious) about your hotel not allowing guests.

Gol has slashed all its fares so flying to gig instead of santos dumont from conghonas should set you down R$99 not $100 at any travel agency or online with an amex card.
The Bomboa garota used to go by Larissa. Well she is very proud of her silicon tits with scar in the armpit but she is better than in the above review as she is very good at rimming and gives excellent bbbj. I met her 2 years ago at Connection, she just moved to Bomboa. She is the jealous kind. I remember she had a great ass. Thanks for sharing pictures.

It was a 5 star hotel. I made a mistake - I should have booked a lesser hotel. I stayed at Sol Melia last time and had no problem bringing back girls and outcall escorts.

Athos, wow R99! I am now tempted to go back to SP for a couple of days this week (I am in Rio now.) Are there any cheap and decent hotel that you recommend?

BTW, what online travel site do you recommend for booking these fares?

Also, you said Larissa aka Yan is bettern tha I reviewed? I already gave her a 9/9/9 rating (face/body/service). Higher than that she would have to be perfect.

From what I understand most 5-star hotels in Sao Paulo (notwithstanding that most are not really 5-star hotels but only claim to be) allow guests. Could you let us know which one, or, at least, pm me so I don't get in that situation myself? Thanks.

LA Guy, check your InBox. Sorry for not wanting to share the info publicly. I spoke at a conference and don't want people to put one and one together. ;)

Just writing in to say, $#!% is that last girl (Yan) hot. I've followed the various pics of brazilian girls on CH and generally (with a few exceptions) haven't been too impressed. But I am impressed with this one... this girl is smoking hot. Lucky you.

sex junkie
Gol slashing of prices just got under way so you might even be able to fly to santos dumont for cheap. I read that you can fly to Curitiba for R$100 from SP.
Cheap hotel? I am not that cheap but I like to stay at the St Germain in cerqueira cesar for R$110, some of my friends prefer to stay at the Parthenon Excellence 2 blocks up the street from Bomboa.
I guess 99% of hotels in SP are guest friendly. Never book a double room in SP.

SJ,

Nice report on SP. Thanks for the photos. Brasileras are the best for pure fun and raw sex.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Athos: How can you buy a Gol ticket in the USA? I'm thinking of flying into GRU and out of GIG and need a one way ticket from Sao Paulo to Rio. Gol doesn't seem to have a website, even for Brazil. Thanks.

Try:
http://www.voegol.com.br/english/index_ie.asp

I have a different problem; it doesn't take any of my credit cards. It says you can use AmEx from outside Brazil, but it then requires a four-digit security code, and the code on my card is 3 digits. Given that I'm living in Brazil I'm able to go to a local travel agent and get the internet special fares from her.

Fares are low right now, but most are not in the 100 reais range. I got a R/T fare of 480 reais (w/taxes) between POA and Santos Dumont (there were actually more low-fare flights into SDU than GIG)--Varig wanted 900 reais--and 250 reais R/T between POA and Floripa.

Let me know if you are successful booking from the US.

I keep tellin' folks Moulin Rouge rocks, but nobody believes me... I dig it because I like to play pool with the girls, and I don't know any other club in Sampa that has a pool table. And you are right, I prefer SP to Rio any day.

Connections has a pool table as does Tivoly.

Rhonda of Amerioca tours got me a VERY good deal on a R/T SP->Rio on GOL. Another time I booked myself SP->Rio R/T on Travelocity and it was painfully expensive by comparison. Give Rhonda at Amerioca a call.

Cafe Millenium has a pool table.

Connection has a pool table.
Bahamas has a pool table.

Soccer
I have not tried my amex on their site so BD is probably right.
You can email blameitonrio and pay them by cc.

Bwana Dik
RT POA-GIG that's not bad for R$480 as SP is Gol's hub. It was under R$900 when i was there last Thanksgiving.

i have had no problem using my amex card on gol from the u.s. i have booked three different sets of tickets. for amex, the code they are looking for is on the front of the card, right side, above the embossed numbers and it is 4 digits.

I prefer SP to Rio and only stay at guest friendly hotels. I like to do take out. Is it possible to do take out garotas from Moulin Rouge or Bomboa?

Buffer, that's the other thing nice about the clubs in SP like Bomboa and moulin Rouge. You can either use the on-site rooms, or you can take the girls out.

For an analogy to Rio, it's kind of like Help Disco and the Termas combined.

I hate Connections, never been to Tivoly. Bahamas has a pool table? For how long? I bet it is downstairs? I am always wasted when I am in Bahamas - I probably never noticed.

The Bahamas pool table is behind the wall adjacent to the little stage. You can't see it unless you are going to go downstairs.

I double hate Moulin Rouge.

Hey guys, I am in my 5th evening in Rio. This is my 4th trip here. My conclusion, is that I am definitely spending 80% of my next trip in Sao Paulo. I am now near the conclusion that SP is much better hobby place than Rio.

Places like Bomboa, Bahamas, etc. bascially combine the best of both the Barabarella/Help setup and the termas (Centaurus) setup. The girls in these clubs are much more plentiful than your average termas in Rio. You can have action on-site to test out the girl. And if you like her, you can take her out for long time.

Funny. Today on one of the other boards I was defending Sao Paulo against a couple of hombres who said they couldn't wait to leave for Rio. They didn't like Bomboa in particular, and my response was I don't either, but you can't judge the whole SP scene by Bomboa and Bahamas. Nonetheless, all this shows that we all have our different perspectives. Having said this, it is unfortunate that some hombres have a perspective that is infinitely wrong, namely that Rio is a much better place to monger than SP. OTOH, I won't say that liking Bomboa or Bahamas is infinitely wrong, just a reasonable difference of opinion. Now Moulin Rouge may be a different story

Take ten Hombres, go to Sao Paulo, and let them all go to their favorite places, and guess who is the winner? We all are, because we all got laid by a beautiful(in our eyes) garota, who inflated our ego to the point that it is about ready to burst.

Enjoy the life gentlemen,

Moondog

Moondog: I'm trying to figure out: are you following me from board to board, or is it the other way around?

Out of curiousity what is the other board u are referring to? All due respect to CH of course

Board Stiff?

Diversity-
Thanks for the info on the AmEx number. Duh!

SF_Hombre-
Who do you nominate as the Board Stiff?

LAGuy,

Who knows? Anyway, not to worry, as long as we all get laid by the women of our dreams.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

I think Laguy might have had an "accident" with the resident tgirl at Moulin Rouge. It's ok man, talk about it - let it out. You're with friends here, nobody will judge you...

BTW, Moulin Rouge ROCKS - they gots nekkid women there...

(Message edited by defconsul on March 22, 2005)

I guess I will "let it out," following Defconsul's request.

One of the hombres on this site wrote the following about Moulin Rouge (in South America chat) last December 24, after recommending it to a newbie to SP, who wanted to know the must see places for mongering. I guess it was a Christmas present to the uninitiated:

"There is propensity for the odd fight to break out every couple of nights, and it is definately [sic] more darker [sic] and not as clean as other places."

Sound familiar Defconsul?? Great recommendation. And about your hating Connection: Not enough fights for you? Or too clean and sanitary. Sheeesh.


(Message edited by LAguy on March 22, 2005)

I Think I will split my time between SP and RIO next trip down. I notice a growing trend in thinking here about SP being at or above par with RIO. I guess I will have to check it out myself Bummer eh?

I'd just like to say I am so happy to see so many happy faces in one thread! It is almost like a Kid Cisco-arama!!

Hey guys, let's keep this secret among Hombres. I do think part of the reason Rio is going slightly downhill is because of all the tourists here spoiling the girls. We don't want the sex tourist wave to extend to SF.

Regarding Moulin Rouge, I would agree that it is dark. But there are plenty places with good lighting where you can fully check out the girls. For example, I think Barbarella in Rio is darker. The room is sufficiently clean. Comparing it to Rio, I think it is cleaner than Centaurus and 4x4, but not as clean as L'uomo and Solarium. Hope this helps.

I definately like Sao Paulo.

I think it has great restaurants.

The cost of mongering there is a bit higher. I know you can hit some of the discount places during the day, but typically you have to catch a taxi or two and they can get expensive. Those who have visited Connections or Cafe Millenium can vouch for this fact.

The cost does not bother me, but the Traffic kills me. I worked and spent far too much time in NY and I just do not want to deal with Traffic anymore. However, SP is probably one of the worst cities in the world for traffic. I hate traffic. Rio has a huge advantage when it comes to traffic and proximity for all mongering activities.

I also like SP for the Swing Clubs. Then again, I am a bit more deviant than your average guy.

I like SP, but I also like Rio. Rio has a Vacationer's/Tourist feel while SP is clearly a business feel to me. I do not know if it is the beach or what.

SP is awesome, but I do not know if I actually prefer it to Rio. I personally think that you find hot girls in both cities.

I am surprised to hear so little discussion about Love Story on this board. It can be a hoot and there are some hotties there. It is the Help equivalent in SP. The only problem is that it opens at like 2:30 am.

I see a lot of people bailing on Rio and thinking they will love SP. I think people need to try SP, but certainly always keep Rio open as an option.

Kenmore
Could you possibly be more indecisive?
Yours Respectfully,
DG

I can almost understand Kenmore's indecisiveness.

But with the air fare so cheap and the flight so short between the two cities, it is a crime not to visit both places especially if one is coming from a long way.

Hey, I've always said that for a city of 20m people, SP is the best kept secret for this lifestyle. I just booked my trip in April and expect to return in May. I second Sex Junkie's emotion: Let's keep this secret among friends

Lucky MOI, I'm here in SP right now!

For those who can't make it, or are in Rio instead of here, "cum" eat your hearts out! sf4dfish

Dongringo,

Ok, I admit it. I have a problem. Being indecisive is a problem that I have always experienced in Brazil. Typically I am faced with a number of decisions that are difficult for me. For example:

1) Sitting in a Terma and you see the hottie you did on your last trip and she was fantastic (you know one of those sessions where everything clicks). However you have begun the exploration of another girls mouth who says she is gagging for you to fuck her in the ass (and this girl has got an ass to kill for).

2) Sitting in a Terma and you hook up with a couple of girls you have been considering for a dupla. Both of the girls are smoking, but one is not into girls or not into anal. You have the option of swapping this hot girl (who will not do all that you desire) for another girl who is slighlty less attractive but does not understand the word no.

I mean come on, these are serious issues. Fortunately, there are simple solutions when you are in Terma. Expand the dupla to a triple, or bang one girl in the Terma and bang the other girl at your hotel later that night.

Seriously, SP and Rio is a tough call for me. From a pure mongering standpoint, I would say the two are just about neck and neck. However, I personally get pissed when I end up sitting in a taxi cab for 2+ hours getting from my hotel to a Terma or a restaurant.

One thing people need to keep in mind as well. If you are going to SP and you will be staying over the weekend, I would strongly recommend heading over to Rio for the weekend. SP is dead on the weekends and not as many girls are working.

Thus, I give Rio a slight edge.

But retain the right to remain indecisive.

LOL KenMore. I am going to try SP out on my next trip, but will still be going to Rio on that trip as well. I love Rio and know that I have fun there. I will just give SP a try and then compare the merits of each, for a given trip!

Kenmore:

One word: Metro.

Alright, predictably I cannot restrain myself from saying more than one word. I know the Metro is helpful only some of the time. But, for example, if you go to Connection you will get there much faster (and for much less money) by taking the Metro then a taxi than by taking a taxi alone from, let's say, the Avenida Paulista Area. From this area, most of the other clubs are fairly easily accessible by either metro or in more cases taxi, and at the hours you are likely going to the clubs it is unlikely you will have a significant problem.

OTOH, if you stay at the Hilton Morumbi or any of the other hotels in the area around Microsoft, you will likely have a big problem with traffic and taxi costs, as I have experienced.

Although I have spent alot of time in SP, I have never (except see below) been in a taxi for more than about an hour, and that was business related during rush hour. The exception is trips to/from GRU which usually are about an hour, but sometimes are as fast as 40 minutes and sometimes as slow as an hour and maybe 20 minutes. Usually, when I use a taxi around town I am in it for about 15 minutes, 30 tops.

LAGuy:

What hotel do you recommend if I want to hang out mainly around clubs like Bomboa, Cafe Foto, and some of the other ones people mentioned above.

I noticed that the area around Microsoft is not the most convenient but there were my company secretary normally book. May be I should request a different area/hotel.

I don't like 5 star. Just business class, clean, and with broadband connection.

Thanks in advance.

SJ

Sex Junkie: I like the Mercure Jardins, which fits your description perfectly. About two blocks from the Renaissance, three from Avenida Paulista, not far from Bomboa, and within an easy taxi of Cafe Photo. I believe you can book at reasonable rates (you should pay around R$150 per night without breakfast) at www.mercure.com.

Laguy,

I have my moods - I like to be pampered from time-to-time, but I think I prefer to have a little more adventure. I guess I dislike point-and-click places, or places where it's the same old same old every night. I don't like places that are atmospherically sterile or custom tailored for my attendance. Andventure, variety and the unexpected is where I like to live.

Not that your choices are bad - we have frequented MANY of the same places - and I have to say there is a little something I like about all of them.

To diversity!

Saludos,

Defconsul

The Mecure I recommend for its close proximity to clubs like Kilt, Vagao Plaza, and Cocktail on R. Nestor Pestana is the Mecure Downtown. Which is on R. Araujo 141, a stones throw below Love Story, Downtown's tel# is 3120-8400.

And they do offer pretty decent weekend rates of around 115R/nite.

I prefer the Mercure Jardins to the Mercure Downtown because the rooms are larger, and generally more suited to business use. It is also in a safer neighborhood, IMHO, within a few blocks of many of the best restaurants in Sao Paulo, including Massimo, Antiquarius, Gero, Amadeus, A Figueira Rubaiyat (not one of my favorites though) among many others. Mercure also has apparently made the same judgment in that Jardins costs a bit more as a general rule.

I agree, however, that if you are in SP primarily to visit Kilt, Vagao Plaza, Cocktail, or Love Story, there is a small advantage to the Mercure Downtown (a larger advantage for Love Story since it is almost next door). However, the walk to the Rua Augusta clubs from the Mercure Jardins is not bad, and to get to Kilt, Vagao Plaza or Cocktail you can either hop on the 712P (or is it T?) bus and be there in about seven minutes, take a short cab ride, or walk maybe 20 to 25 minutes. Mercure Jardins is also closer to Cafe Photo, Bomboa, and I believe the Moema clubs, as well as some of the casas in the area off of Avenida Paulista. You are also two blocks from the Renaissance Hotel, with its Citibank supported ATM.

Although these decisions are highly personal, the Mercure Jardins is above my threshold for acceptability, the Mercure Downtown straddles that threshold, at least when I am in SP for business.

Moulin Rouge is for sure a nice place if you like a casual atmosphere, keep in mind you will have a better choice Tuesday thru Friday. Last week this girl that I hit if off with a few months ago, drug me into a stairwell of sorts leading up to the rooms and pulled my cock out of my pants and would not stop until i blew in her mouth...I felt like I was going to get caught by the manager and sent to jail or something....I tried to give the girl some cash, she said it was my birthday present...ok, i went with it....

Kilt is a bit nicer, but the 50R roundtrip from Moema does not make is such the deal, compared to Moulin Rouge, but I always stop in at least once evey trip. According to one of the girls some big time actors hang out there while in town.....

I have tried Bahamas twice, both times heading back to Moulin Rouge, just too cold for my liking.....

America Show, also in Moema is ok if you hit it on the right night.

Cafe Photo is really nice, I usually get a few numbers and call them up during the day. I must say that even though I do not visit Bomboa as much as I would like, it is one of the overall better places...

LaGuy,

I totally agree with you on the Metro. It is the only way to maintain sanity with getting around in SP.

However, I usually hang at the Hilton Morumbi and have no easy access to the Metro.

I spend a bit of time in Jardins and the traffic from Jardins to Morumbi (due to all the construction) was a bit ridiculous and I sat in a taxi cab for 2 hours one evening. This is an unusual case, but if you are trying to get somewhere on a Thursday or Friday night and it is raining, it is not uncommon to experience lengthy frustrating delays.

Particularly when traveling to GRU on a Thursday or Friday evening.

Cheers.

Kenmore: Unless there is a business reason for staying at the Hilton Morumbi, and if you want to lessen the effect of traffic on your stays in SP, I would suggest moving to either the Gran Melia Mofarrez on Alameda Santos (the former Sheraton), or the Mercure--Jardins which is substantially cheaper but not a bad hotel at all. As a Hilton Diamond member I used to appreciate accumulating the days towards Diamond status at the Hilton Morumbi, but frankly, I don't think it is worth it given the problems in traffic around that hotel and the absence of a metro stop nearby.

Other possibilities to be considered include the Renaissance although I believe you get better value at the Gran Melia Mofarrez (but only if booked through their internet site, www.solmelia.com). If you want to be truly extravagant, the Emiliano is great, and was recently tested (not by me) and found guest friendly. I should add that I did not test the Gran Melia Mofarrez for guest friendliness; I assume there would be no problems but one might want to ask before booking there.

That Girl Simone,
Either that is a girl that now works in the Termas Aeropuerto in Rio, or she has a twin sister. I was there in Mid March. Did a dupla with her and her friend. Of course I did Simone More than the other. FUN! FUN! FUN!