By Andresg1967 on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:25 am: Edit |
Hi, Folks!
I arrived in BA on Sunday and resumed my mongering habits.
Before start, take into account that:
- I'm a native "porteño", so language is not an issue for me.
- I do the hobby sparingly. Rarely do I see more than one girl each day.
- This trip will provide me with a lot of non-pro action.
The good news is that I will pursue the off-the-beaten-path places. At least, I hope to have enough time to do so...
To start, I went his Sunday to Affaire (Pueyrredon Av. between Paraguay St. and Mansilla st.). The place has a red neon light in the front door, you can't miss it. Since I had a heavy schedule for Monday, I hit the place at 11PM.
Something changed from my previous visit in December: Same decoration, same prices (p10 for admission w/drink included, p70 for 30 minutes and p140 for an hour), same rooms (they have rooms available next door, in a sketchy building) but different girls. Quality decreased. I found out later that many of the foreign girls (mainly Paraguayans and Brazilians) didn't return after the holidays because it was unconvenient for them to do business in BA. Certainly, before the devaluation they could send montly a couple of hundred Dollars to their homes. Now, they can send only a quarter of that. Too bad, since these places were once crowded with very nice and simple foreign girls who really took their duties seriously.
Being a Sunday night and before midnight, I spotted very few girls, totaling 6. Some 4s, and perhaps two 5-6s. I chose Carolina, a girl from the Salta province with average legs, average tits and not nearly an hourglass figure, but suggestive lips and great attitude.
As many girls do in Affaire, she approached me, sitted over my lap and started curling me in my thighs and in between, kissing and licking my neck while proposing me to do anything I liked. We chatted for a while (I found out that many off-the-beaten-track places in the provinceside were closed due to problems with the Bonaerense Police) and then headed to the rooms.
As I said before, the rooms are somewhat sketchy. Although clean, these rooms are not like those in an Alberge Transitorio, with so many toys and light fixures. But for a session, that was enough.
She provided what she promised: Good BBBJ (she tried hard, but not her best skill), FS in every position and greek. After that, some massage. The half hour went fast but smooth.
I expect to return during a Thursday, to see if there are more and better girls. Who knows...
My advice: Don't go there if you can spend $100 with a Recoleta girls. You will have a better time.
Respect to safety, things got worse and you shoud be careful. In fact, some homeless teenagers nastly hassled me yesterday when returning home, popping out of the woodward when walking in Santa Fe Av. (Affaire is close to where I stop by, so I walked all the way home). They were 7 or more, and I escaped by hurrying my pace. Last year, nobody would have bothered me like that. However, BA is not Rio or Sao Paulo in security nightmares...yet.
Hope this helps,
Andres
By uwphoto on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:35 pm: Edit |
Thanks for the update. I'll be there next week and it is always good to have recent info. I'd appreciate more on the local places. This must be different from the Affaire that is located on Guido in Recoleta next to Password.
The prices seem high compared to the 150 peso average for a club girl last trip in June. Is inflation kicking in? Are you seeing changes in menu prices or taxi fares?
By Andresg1967 on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 10:14 am: Edit |
Uwphoto:
I believe that prices sre somewhat the same respect to June. When I referred to $100, I meant the Black's prices (high end). Anyway, I will visit Hook, Catto's and the like so I will find out if the p100-150 prices still hold.
I move around with "colectivos" and subway, so I don't know about taxi fares. In Ezeiza, taxis charge $30 for a trip to downtown.
Andres
By Citydude on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 10:46 pm: Edit |
Andres: 30USD from EZE to Downtown ?? Not my recollection from last year
By Ezy on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:44 am: Edit |
Citydude: I have reserved a remise on 5 agosto to take me from EZE to Recoleta. The fare is 15USD, still slightly on the high side...I will probably take a cab back for p25....but catching a cab at EZE can be risky, so I would prefer to set up my own transportation in advance for the ride into town, even if it costs a little more....
By d'Artagnan on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:48 am: Edit |
Ezy, can you go into a little more depth on what you mean by catching a cab at EZE being risky?
By Ezy on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:59 am: Edit |
Yes, there are a number of pirate cabs at EZE....thieves who will steal your money and luggage....if you register for a remise, bus, or cab inside the terminal you won't have a problem...but to walk out and catch a cab is to risk being picked up by a thief....Normally, as you exit customs you will be handed a notice that warns you about taxis at EZE...CUIDADO....
I have never had a problem with cabs in the downtown area...though it is best to take Radio Cabs....or to find a reputable company and call them in advance.
Planning a trip to BsAS? You do get around!!!! I always enjoy your reports and photos
By Sakebomb on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:51 pm: Edit |
Ezy, I took a private cab from EZE to Recoleta in April. I didn't know there were differences between private operators and Radio cabs at the time. As soon as the private cab drivers helped me with my luggage, a cop came over and handed me a notice with the big word "...PELIGROSO" on it.
The driver was an middle aged guy, and he was extremely cool. He paid for the two toll stops, and filled up his beat up Renault with natural gas with his old money. He asked if I wanted to see some "casas", but I declined. He also took me around downtown area and showed me all the places, Casa Rosado, Obelisco, Teatro Colon...At the end, he was trying to pull the 20pesos "surcharge" when I paid him the 40 pesos fee.
The later part of my trip, I used a Radio driver to run my errands. I had some custom shirts made that worth quite a bit of money, but he always delivered them directly to my hotel door. He even asked me to come to his house in La Boca to have dinner with his family. He said his sister-in-law was a pretty young thin blond and wanted to me to meet her. These people are extremely nice but too bad that they have to struggle to survive cuz of their corrupted bone-head leaders.
By Canonperdido on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:44 pm: Edit |
It used to be $33 pesos before Dec 01 to downtown from EZE. If you kept the coupon you got from the authorized taxis at EZE there is a discount to get you back to EZE from downtown for 25 pesos.
Most places are charging 15 US now. Even though the pesos and most things are lower, fuel is still sold at world market prices.
After spending $33 dollars / pesos last year, I am not going to complain about $15 for a safe ride.
I have taken the bus before from EZE to Plaza San Martin. That only cost 11 pesos. I do not know how much the bus would be now, but it certainly is an option.
By d'Artagnan on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 03:09 am: Edit |
I already went to Buenos Aires, it was the second part of my trip, where I went to after Rio.
I had a bad cab experience where I was charged round trip in advance by a cab company set up for me by Alojargentina. Of course, the guy didn't show for the ride back to the airport.
Report and photos are coming next.
By Andresg1967 on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:12 am: Edit |
Hi, again!
Thursday was a long day, full of surprises.
It started at 6PM, when I scheduled a massage session with Mara (see Platynum). I arrived at the place (near Cordoba Av. and Esmeralda St.) and the assistant told me that a previous customer extended the session with her. That's the main problem with private apartments: Sometimes, they can't provide what they promise even if you book in advance. The assistant introduced me to the other girls (the ones in the Platynum site with the same phone number). They were very close to what photos promise.
In order to wait for Mara, I decided to walk around the neighborhood for half an hour. First, I went to Cafe Orleans, just looking through the curtains' gaps. No more than 7 girls, only 1 or 2 really cute. Then, I headed to Reconquista and Paraguay, where Cutty Sark and the others are. I found out that the pub Insomnio was out of business and that a "new" pub called "Ladies" was open (in fact, this place was previously called Bridge). Finally, I went to Exedra and saw from the outside just 3-4 girls.
Back to the massage place, Mara was still occupied. No problem: many places to go, but since I had an appointment by 8PM, just had time to do something quick. I decided to see a new place called "Gypsy Pub", located inside a commercial ally in Cordoba Av. between Florida and Maipu. Some promoters of this pub were handing cards in the corner of Cordoba and Florida, inviting customers to join. STAY AWAY! This is a rip-off place! I entered and was invited to seat in a couch. All of a sudden, 2 girls who presented themselves as managers started talking, while the waitress provided them with drinks (drinks that they didn't ordered neither have asked my permission for). 10 minutes later, the waitress asked p75, p25 for each drink. I paid and left immediatelly.
You may think that p75 ($20) are not a big deal, and I agree. But what worries and annoys me is that they start behaving like barracudas, inflating the bar tab artificially to strip money from customers providing no service at all.
I had to figure out that many pubs in downtown are rip-off holes. since near Lavalle and Esmeralda are most of these rip-off joints. Well...that's the risk of the adventurer.
After that, I went to the Tucuman and Florida place. Only 3 girls, none of them above 4, so I told the assistant that I wouldn'take the service. She told me "Rules have changed", and asked me p15 for the presentation of the girls. Damn! Anyway, if you go there check it out. Perhaps, the owners don't' like local guys who want to be "smart" and see the girls without paying, but they forgive foreigners.
Not having enough time before my date, I had to wait until 2AM. After the non-pro action ended, I went to the Paraguay and Suipacha bar strip: Catto's, Hook, Ness. Catto's had 15-20 girls, most of them 6-7s. Noting special, and prices the same as December: p10 for your drink, p20 for the girls' drinks and p100 for a 2 hour session (add p10 for the cab and p20-30 for the hotel-albergue transitorio). A girl told me that most massage places in Flores quarter (the former "Capital of sex" in Buenos Aires) were being busted by the Federal Police (I will go there next week, anyway). Since none of the girls were particularly beautiful (by then, I had had some non-pro action ,so I was pretty tired and only a stunner could have revived me), I moved to Hook.
Hook had a slightly better quality, with similar prices (p12 and p18 for Hook, instead of p10 and p20 for Catto's). I saw a really stunning Paraguayan girl called Julieta (I give her a 9). Natural big boobs, nice body, slim waist and thick lips. She was also very charming, with great attitude and that special Paraguayan accent that pops me up. I was almost to take he out when I remembered that I saw many people coming in and out of Ness, so I decided to go there and see what was up.
Ness had only 12-15 girls, some former Catto's girls (I spotted 3 with whom I had sessions 3 years ago). Good quality (7s and 8s, perhaps a 9), but somewhat lame in the ambience and decoration. Anyway, no girl that catered to me. Since by then it was 3:30AM and was very tired, I thought that going to a hotel with Julieta was a mess; better to do a quickie in Affaire (Pueyrredon and Paraguay).
Affaire was packed with 16 girls, many more than in Sundays. Most were 6s and 7s, but a couple were 8s. I spotted a girl called Claudia, from the Misiones province. Gees! Cinnamon colored skin, thick lips, nice C cups boobs, great legs and well rounded butts. It was near 5AM when, as the place was closing, I asked for a 30 minute service of only p70. She provide a great BBBJ, while kising and caressing very well (close to a GFE). Too tired for massage and/or FS.
By 5:30AM, I was walking home.
Hope this helps.
Andres
By Andresg1967 on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:14 am: Edit |
Citydude:
Sorry, I meant p30.
Too many years of Dollar-Peso peg makes me confuse sometimes...
Andres
By Moondog on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 04:40 pm: Edit |
Andresg1967,
We just missed each other. I was in Orleans talking to a few friends about the time that you were looking in the window, and shortly after that, walked down to Cutty Sark and Ladies. Then had to run to make it on time for another date. Hope to meet up again sometime.
By Gregorio on Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 09:13 pm: Edit |
Andres, good info,
Is that place Affaire a bar with rooms in the back for on-site services? The price sounds pretty good that's for sure. What time do they open in the afternoon?
By Andresg1967 on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 10:12 pm: Edit |
Hi!
Saturday, I revisited the Flores quarter.
I entered the mongering status by 4 AM. Got into the car, filled the tank in a gas station and started studying the SW action.
First, I went to Constitucion. I spotted some ugly Dominicans in Santiago del Estero St. between Constitucion St. and Pavon St., and many TVs in San Jose St. and Constitucion St. Didn't ask them any price. Then, I saw a new pub in Caravelas Ct. and Salta St., called Calypso. Since I didn't dare to park in the dark streets there, I didn't get in. While cruising, I recognized an old pub in Garay Av and Santiago del Estero. Needless to say, these places seemed really scale-down, slumps, genuine holes where to get serviced the sausage.
After that, I drove all the way to Flores. There, I reviewed the SW scene: Some TVs and only a few women in Bacacay St. and in Bogota St. Since it was nearly 4:30 AM, chances are that girls had already gone home. While cruising, I noticed that none of the classic MPs were closed: La Fuente (La Fuente St. and Rivadavia Av.), Envidia (Rivadavia Av. and the 1st parallel street to Nazca Av.), Dolys and Liza (both on San Pedrito Av. and Directorio Av.) were at full speed.
Since it was pretty late, I decided to try la Fuente, which usually doesn't betray me. To my dismay, it was packed with nasty teenagers (July 20th is the Friend's Day here), touching every butt they could reach with their hands (yes, even mine). I stayed for 30 minutes, never leaving my hands from my pockets (it is easy to pickpocketing in this scenario). There were 12-13 girls, none of them over 5. It used to be at least 1 or 2 7s or 8s, but not that day. Prices: p35 for 20 minutes, p50 for 30 minuted and p90 for 1 hour, p10 admission and p10 the hotel in the same block. Didn't like the scene, so I moved to Dolys.
Dolys was also packed up to the roof with pests (teenagers who go to drink and touch but not to do business), but there were about 30 girls. Most of them 4s or less, but a few gems outstood. One of them was Tamara, a petite latina (5'3") that elicited my deepest mongering instincts (a blonde-dyed brunette with nice butts and meaty lips, who could barely walk in her spiked high heels platform shoes). She was really busy, so I had to wait for about 1 hour. Prices: Same as La Fuente, but they have rooms next door, so no hotel fee.
By the way, it is extremelly unlikely that anybody speak English there. However, it is also unlikely that you would get robbed inside.
The rooms were pretty clean and simple, very small but enough for a quick session. Somewhat sketchy for those accustomed to nice hotel rooms, but when you are horny even the Secretary of State office seems comfortable. She started providing an awesome BBBJ and then we did FS. She put the extra mile, really charming. Noteworthy, since she was really busy and didn't have to satisfy me.
Hope to visit the JB Justo area pubs soon:
- Artigas (JB Justo Av. and Artigas St.), a supposed high-scale one.
- The one in the corner of JB Justo Av. and Artigas St.
- Scorpion (JB Justo Av. and the 2nd street before nazca Av.)
- Maraha (JB Justo Av. and the 1st street before Artigas)
Andres
By Andresg1967 on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 10:17 pm: Edit |
Gregorio:
They have on-site rooms for service. I think that I saw them open at 4 PM, so I guess that they provide an afternoon shift starting at 3PM.
Hope this helps,
Andres
By Gregorio on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 12:24 am: Edit |
Mil gracias, soy su fiel amigo y leal servidor...
By d'Artagnan on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 05:40 pm: Edit |
Andres, this is a great report covering places I've never heard of before. I went recently in June, but just for a few days and I only covered the well-known places for the most part.
I hope to go back later this year for more "research", I'll keep your report in mind when I do. Thanks!
By Andresg1967 on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:25 am: Edit |
Hi!
Short but juicy journey last night.
Mondays are usually dead for mongering activity in BA outside Recoleta, and I confirmed it by watching the SW scene in Constitucion and Flores again: Lonely streets.
I went to the JB Justo area (Flores), where I found out that Scorpions and Maraha were closed. These places had Police precints sealing the entrance doors, so I imagine that he Federal Police is closing many pubs with in-house rooms. However, Artigas (Artigas St. and JB Justo Av.) was open.
4 years ago, you would have found there Playboy material by dozens, asking $200 for 1 hour. Yesterday, I saw lame material: Girls with pig legs, rhino bellies and ape faces asking p80 for 30 minutes and p200 for 1 hour (go figure why having 2 sessions with 2 girls cost less than 1 long session...). The decoration and ambience rank among the best in Buenos Aires, but the girls department needs an upgrade. Too bad...
I left the place thinking where to go. I remembered that Salome (Billinghurst St. and Cordoba Av.) uses to host 40 girls, so I headed there. The place has a bar in the first floor and a simulated boat in the basement (the basement has a triangle shape and its walls are covered by wood. It resembles a boat). Most girls were 6s. However, I spotted Debora, my favorite provider.
I should write a book about this girl. Out of the hundreds of girls that I met in this "industry", none of them were as good as her. She is really beautiful, but not a stunner (8 or 9): 5'8", big c-cups, thick lips, nice slim waist and wide and soft butts. And what a soft and fruity skin! She is really charming, always with the best attitude and eager to please. I decided to do my 6th try since 1999 (I seldom go out with the same girl more than twice). p10 my drink, p20 her allowance to leave and p100 for a hotel session. We went to a nearby hotel (p25 the intermediate room). She provided an unlimited load of caresses and kisses (GFE is a small word for her attitude), and then showed her perfect skills in her duties: Excellent BBBJ and incredible FS (never saw a girl moving that way in bed, not even former girlfriends in horny mode!). After that, some massage and chatting. As usual, she never asks for money before, she waits for you to offer it, and no hassle to come back to the bar after the 2 hours expire. Sweet...
Hope to visit some Recoleta places next time
Andres
By Sakebomb on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:25 pm: Edit |
Andres, thanks for the research. I technically "lived" in BA for almost a month, but I have never heard of places like La Fuente, Dolys, and Envidia. I'm looking forward to reading your future returns to these places to see if they got better than "less than 4s".
If you roamed around the Salome area, you should check out Cocodrilo. It was my best gig for after hour party. They closes on Sun&Mon, and opens at 2am the rest of the week.
By Moondog on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 07:28 pm: Edit |
Sakebomb,
Last week when I was there, I was told Cocodrilo was closed. I will try and find out definitely this time. I will be in BA Wednesday and Thursday, July 31st, and Aug. 1st.
By Andresg1967 on Friday, July 26, 2002 - 03:49 pm: Edit |
Hi!
A short experience.
On Tuesday, after 10 days going out every single night, I started to feel tired. Then, I decided to do a quickie in downtown and leave the night for light non-pro action.
I wanted to try Mara (a masseuse in downtown: Cordoba Av. and Esmeralda St., Phone 4515-0213), who I couldn't try a week ago. By 5:30 PM, she was available, so I took the 30 minutes session (p40). The girls was really hot: Nice legs, nice bobs, slim body, Paraguayan accent (I guess that all these girls in this MP are from Paraguay). She started with a nice massage with oil, rubbing my back, butts, arms, legs and sensitive parts. After 15 minutes massage, she asked me p10 for getting naked, p30 for naked and CBJ and p50 for FS (but she had the monthly period, so she couldn't do that). I chose the p30. Nice BJ, but since covered, no as great as a BBBJ. I touched her body and felt really smooth and firm at the same time... "Youth, divine treasure"...
One comment about the place: It's clean, but it's very small and the rooms are cabinets made of cardboard, so you can hear everything from other rooms and viceversa. Also, there are only couchs and massage tables, so you cannot have comfortable action as in a hotel.
An average experience.
Hope to report soon about Recoleta. By the way, I will try to see if Cocodrilo is open. I remember from previous trips that girls who didn't made the evening in Recoleta gather in Cocodrilo after hours (3AM+). Thus, you may find bargains if this is still true.
Andres
By d'Artagnan on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:46 pm: Edit |
I'm really interested in hearing about your opinion of Cocodrilo. I didn't like it, but I only made it there once and it wasn't until around 4:30am.
By Andresg1967 on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:00 pm: Edit |
D'Artagnan:
Last time I went to Cocodrilo was on December 2001. I didn't like the place very much: Too crowded, weird neihborhood (the Hospital de Niños used to be dark) and irregular materal. However, there were some bargains sometimes (good quality at a deep discount).
So far, I didn't revisit it in this trip.
Andres
By d'Artagnan on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:08 pm: Edit |
Very much agreed. I went beginning of June 2002. Wall to wall people with a horrid guy to girl ratio of at least 4 to 1 at 4:30 am (doesn't open until 2am?) Two girls above a 7 and both were occupied.
Also, I felt safe my entire time in Argentina EXCEPT a little bit while we were in this neighborhood.
By Ezy on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:00 am: Edit |
ok, so maybe Cocodrillo is off my list of new places to visit....even if it is open...
By Moondog on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:23 am: Edit |
D'Artagnan,
Where exactly is Cocodrillo? I've heard reports that it is closed, and would just like to see if it is open or not. I will be there on Wednesday and Thursday of this week, but might have someone with me. If not, I will check it out.
By Andresg1967 on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 01:28 pm: Edit |
Moondog:
Cocodrilo is located in Gallo St., close to the corner with Paraguay St. In front of the place is located the Children's Hospital.
Andres
By Moondog on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:10 pm: Edit |
Ok, thanks. I will check it out on Wednesday to see if it is still open.
By Andresg1967 on Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:38 am: Edit |
Hi!
Last experience of my trip.
On Monday, I had my last free night for mongering in BA. As I explained before, people don't use to go out very much on Sunday and Mondays, and this Monday wasn't the exception.
First, I went to Sodoma by midnight. The place was almost empty for what it used to be: Only 20 chicas, most of them of average looking (no one stunner spotted). Prices were the same as in December: p18 for monger's drink, p60 for chica's drink and leave, and p100 for the girl (assuming 90-120 minutes of service). Left the place and walked around the corner to Solid Gold.
Solid Gold seemed better in women's quality. I saw a pretty girl called Sabrina (nice legs and butts) who asked p100 for a 2 hr session. Driks were same price as in Sodoma. Left the place and took a cab to the Suipacha and Paraguay streets area.
First place to visit there was Hook. Hook seems to have mostly foreigners (Paraguayans and Brazilians). Some girls were really pretty, but the ambience was lame: Only a handful of customers. Saw a nice and slim Paraguayan girl called Mireya. Left the place to go to Ness.
Ness sucked. Less than 8 girls and a mourning ambience. I was about to leave when I saw I girl who tried 3 years ago called Karen. She put the extra mile trying to convince me in going out. She was extremely carming, although I remembered that the previous experience with her was substandard.
Anyway, she worked out the circumstances to convince me and succeeded. She asked p150, but I set it to p100 without much negotiation. Karen is realy pretty. As many girls from the Misiones province, she has a mildly dark skin (kind of light cinnamon), dark eyes, thick lips and great body: Big natural boobs, slim waist and round, firm butt. We went to the 3 Sargentos Albergue Transitorio and had a nice session: BBBJ, FS, greek, some massage. The only problem with this girl is that she likes to call other friends and ask the concierge for food. Personally, I don't like people eating in the bed.
Well... a nice experience, nothing unforgettable but not avoidable either.
Now I'm back in the States. I hope to come back to BA in December and inform about other places if possible (heard that Yamila in Pavon Av. and Galicia Av., Avellaneda, is scheduled to reopen in September).
Hope this helps.
Andres