I did a few weeks worth of research online and printed trip reports and maps (links below). The most helpful reports were from Blazers and Murasaki. Thank you, for the great intelligence. After reading all these reports, I was eager to check out the MPs, skeptical of Patpong, interested in NEP and sure to like Soi Cowboy.
Patpong
However, I had also read a lot on STDs (www.avert.org/aidsthai.htm) in Thailand and especially the reports on AIDS. Therefore, by reading this report, one has to consider that my mileage requirements may have been lower than in some other reports. I did not want to DFK, DATY nor receive BBBJ or BB anything from professional providers. With that in mind it was obvious that the freelancer scene should have been off limits for me. That this did not turn out that way was one of the reasons why even the best preparation in virtual reality cannot prepare for “real” reality.
2) Flight:
I flew business class from SAN via SFO and NRT on All Nippon Airways (www.fly-ana.com) and highly recommend their service. My only complaint was that the BKK office was not helpful at all when I tried to delay my return by one day. They actually refused to assist me over the phone and demanded that I present my ticket at the office off Silom Rd. or fax a copy to them.
3) Jet lag preparation:
I read some stuff on how to fight the jet lag. However, most websites seem to deal with cross country and / or transatlantic travel.
I decided to sleep as much as possible on the flight from SFO to NRT and attempt to not sleep from NRT to BKK. Arriving, as most flights do, late at night I wanted to avoid arriving well rested and than not to be able to sleep.
I do not like pills, and therefore got drunk quickly after take-off from SFO and slept 3 hours before enjoying the amazing service All Nippon Airways has to offer.
Once in Bangkok I was able to sleep for 6 hours, got up and made sure I went outside into the sun without sunglasses all morning and had a reasonable experience. The first 3 days I was fading around 6-8 pm, but after that it was no problem at all.
4) Hotel:
I was on a business account and stayed at the Mandarin Oriental. (www.mandarinoriental.com/hotel/510000001.asp) The hotel was spectacular. My room had butler service, view of the river and can only be described a luxurious, beyond 5 star.
Twice I brought a girl to my room, late at night, the bell boy just got the elevator, did has servant routine, pressed my floor, wished me a good night, using my last name: Mister X and completely ignored the lady in my company.
Both girls were from CM2, dressed in a cocktail dress and did not appear as out of place as some NEP girls may have been.
5) Women:
The girls in Thailand are prettier than I expected. They are slimmer and taller than Japanese or Chinese women in general and for me and my obsession for spinners it was paradise. The prostitutes come in many sizes and shapes, but the best looking girls are not for sale. Considering providers I agree with most comments previously that they serve mostly Japanese cliental (Poseidon, Baccara and Rainbow 3) www.poseidon2000.com www.baccarabar.com . However, I did not find one with a good vibe.
Guide
During my visit I found the girls at Soi Cowboy and NEP decent looking and I enjoyed seeing so few implants, many good asses and especially nice legs. I did not plan to venture south for reasons stated above, but the lack of shaving is a real downer for me. On the positive side Thai in general, including prostitutes seem to smell very good and the obsession with smell the Thai culture comes in handy.
The clinginess and apparent of the professional girls seemed to be their was of pitching their service and although annoying at once I got used to it quickly. Granted I was there only 10 days but all the regular Thai girls I saw ignored me and attended to their dates at bars and discotheques just like anywhere else in the world.
6) Lady boys:
At NEP one has to pass the one K-girl bar on the second floor (Casanova - www.bangkokbargirls.info/NanaPlaza/map.htm )when walking around and the ones I saw there were all obvious. Sometimes I wondered at bars like G-spot, but all the mongers who I saw leave NEP with katoeys were quite obviously gay and I have my doubts if right-minded mongers really get fooled, or if this not often an excuse.
After my trip, I feel more secure to actually tell a k-girl from an XX. If in any doubt, take a girl from Baccara, where the girls wear no panties. On another note: the katoeys always left me completely alone when I walked by ignoring them. The hustle only came when I looked at them and this is fair game since they obviously feed of an ambivalent cliental.
Baccara
7) Sex:
I sampled only 3 girls for full intercourse, the rest were either CBJ and/or single position jerk-offs. The girls were so small and the pussies tight that I looked as if I had a big dong (nice fantasy), but the girls all had a nice way to not insert fully, but ride the tip of my dick with nice rhythm. Especially when having covered sex the grind Latinas do is not giving me enough friction.
The girls I was with in BKK seemed more like a servant, never reaching the illusion of mutual sex. In TJ and during my visits to the FKKs in Germany the girls would try to fake mutual enjoyment
I think it is a question of culture and style and got used to this especially while going the MPs.
If I had a Thai girlfriend I would ask her to shave and give her oral, which may ease them into enjoyment. On a second note I may bring female condoms, if I return for a second visit.
The other main downer on some of the hotties, especially at the Go-Go bars was the bad teeth on many.
8) Bangkok:
Besides the sex industry Bangkok is a city in full bloom. I never thought the city would have so many other things to do and the whole expatriate life style seems very appealing to me. Bangkok and its people seemed very nice, I always felt safe (except when crossing the street looking to my left) and the people I met through business and contacts were amazing and showed me a good time.
The only place I absolutely despised was Patpong. The hustle makes this place way too high maintenance for me.
Throughout my trip the real thrill for me were freelancers. I enjoyed the vague margins between professional provider and amateur. This is where my TJ mongering socialization comes to play. In order to spend a whole night or more with a girl I like to feel her out more than usually possible at the GoGo Bars.
9) Freelancers: (Adelitas in Bangkok) www.cm2bkk.com
I know I had been warned, but on my first Saturday in town, my business contacts wanted to take me out and actually suggested CM2 (www.cm2bkk.com), the place I had heard so much about on this and other boards.
The place is near Siam Square, entrance on Soi 10, which parallels the main road with its Sky Train (BTS). We got there at 11:30 pm, cover 550 Baht, downstairs, nice, clean, quiet bar to the right and straight to the main stage with live band. The band played a weird but fun mix of hip-hop and Asian music.
Besides being a decent size place, the club was packed with women, lots of women, hot, skinny, amazingly tasty and – not all but - most flirtatious. I had never seen such a freelancer to regular girl ratio in a happening place like this.
Back in NYC I knew hotel bars and clubs with hookers doing tricks (or undercover cops), but never more than a few.
CM2 compares best to an Adelitas combined with Tangaloo www.tangaloo.com. If Adelitas has 80 girls on a good night, this place had hundreds. I was immediately struck by a few taller Thai women and some Caucasian lookers, who may have been Russian.
I know I had fantasized about being with a super tiny spinner, but this worked at an MP (see below) where we were almost always horizontal, or at least I was, but it seemed awkward here.
Within minutes a perfect 10 walks provocatively past our group and I can’t keep it together and ask her to dance.
Although she spoke English I did not understand anything she said. The Thai accent was new to me and with the band playing I could not understand her name, where she was from, what she pretended doing for a living etc. She looked 25, 5’5”, on high heels and had great teeth.
All I can say I spend 30 minutes of dancing, 0 Baht, good fun and appeared like a cool guy in front of my colleagues.
When the band went for a break I split from Miss Perfect 10 and went home after drinking with my colleagues until 2:30. However, the last 30 minutes we were standing in this place without music and lights all switched on. The bars in BKK close at 2am, but there is no “last call”, the music just stops, nobody gets kicked out and you can finish the drinks without pressure, but there will simply be no entertainment after 2 and no more new sales.
I guess that is the result of the re-election of the president who tries to clean up BKK earlier this year.
Standing around and looking at the girls who had not hooked up, I promised to myself to return for some romance later without the ball and chains in form of my co-workers.
I would return twice to CM2 (see report Part 1) and hook up with very good providers. I paid 4000 baht ($100) each and spent at least the same in room service and drinks for the night. However, I made sure not to go anywhere private, other than my hotel, which had amazing service, including butler and made me feel safe.
I did not spot any k-girls at CM2, but of course outside the GoGo world there is no the security of clubs. There is no one to complain to the next morning.
Won, the NEP girl at Pharaos I spoke with for 2 hours pointed this out nicely, as she had amazing insight into the whole freelancer versus GoGo girl philosophy (see below)
10) GoGo life
a) NEP:
I went to Nanaplaza three times; usually combine with a stroll from Soi Cowboy. This place has been talked about so much. My first impression was that it is basically the Zona Norte times three stacked three stories high over an area of only one city block! My favorite place to sit was at Pharaos on the first floor near the entrance. From there I watched the coming and going of mongers, girls and k-girls for hours.
Pharaos has a cute girl named Won, who I hung out with for two nights chatting and drinking. She explained me so much about Nana and the rest of BKKs nightlife that it was almost a lecture series in mongering. At one point I came very close to BFing her, but she quoted 4,000 Baht and I laughed it off without making a counteroffer.
BTW, that was not the only time I came very close to BFing a GoGo to the Oriental, but never closed the deal. I somehow regret that and definitely put this on my list for a return visit.
My favorite bars were: Mandarin and Rainbow 3 with the cutes girls and least obnoxious music. I saw some shows at various bars and some were quite hot, but nothing as I would have expected and I assumed that the new political climate must have made them tone down their act. One problem was that there were so many bars and shows and each place hustled me for drinks, that I was buzzed pretty quickly and at least one night I was simply too drunk to BF any girl.
In general I was not overwhelmed with the talent level at most places, except the both mentioned, but I guess this changes constantly.
b) SOI COWBOY:
This turned out to be my favorite Go-Go area. It is only one block away from the new Sukhumvit (www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp) subway station (MRT) and two from the Asok Station (BTS) has fewer bars than at NEP and fewer hustle. Afterschool disappointed me. The place may be good for a quick HJ, but the girls were just too ugly for the lighting. The only hotties were the waitresses, but they played with their cell phones and did not seem interested in switching assignments with the HJ girls.
At Dollhouse (www.dollhouse-agogo.com) I actually saw the famous ping pong balls, but never in action, only in a basket. One girl walked around holding the basket, selling balls to mongers, but when someone bought a ball the girl would just throw it around. Is this the residual of a past high culture of pussy ping pong blowing? Won had told me the bars at Patpong would still do it since they were under a different police precinct and bribed the police better.
The hustle at Dollhouse was low, but I did not see the upstairs see-through stage in action. However, I had a great time using their happy-hour before 8:30 to enjoy beers for 30 baht.
My favorite place and only regular hang-out in Sukhumvit became Baccara (www.baccarabar.com) The bar has 4 types of girls: a) bar tenders in red plait school girl outfits, maybe wearing panties; b) hostesses in black cocktail dresses, possibly wearing panties; c) downstairs Go-Go dancers in daily changing outfits with open toe shoes (not those disgusting boots some bars feature) and not wearing panties, d) upstairs Go-Go girls, dancing on the full-scale glass stage in black and white school girl outfits, definitely not wearing panties.
Baccara
My favorite seat was one of the comfortable red sofas downstairs a few feet away from the main stage and able to watch the upstairs dance floor.
On my third visit here I came very close to BF an upstairs Go-Go who had squatted nicely over me and had great legs and ass. Unfortunately, her teeth were a different story and I could not get over that.
Any time I will get back to BKK, you will find me sitting at Baccara staring at the school girls without panties bouncing around the dance floor upstairs. In my mind this place has the best setup.
I checked out few others at Soi Cowboy and all had fewer hustle than NEP, but some barely any visible talent.
Soi 33 www.bangkokbob.net/soi33.html
This Soi is just across from the Emporium shopping mall and like at the hostess bars in LA, I found myself not knowing what to do. The one place I checked out was the Office. The girls were all dressed in evening gowns, some really cute, but this scene is just not my thing. I picture this to be a great place for folks with more time in Thailand, since some of the girls were really good looking. Assuming that all they do is talk with the customers in the bar, the girls should have more personality and social skills than most of the soapy and Go-Go girls.
11) MP’s (see detailed report on my thoughts on MPs)
I sampled service at 4 MP’s, but checked out a few more. Please see my separate report on MP’s. I developed a routine over time in BKK, which assured that I would be able to relax at a MP almost every day off from work.
The first day I realized that the selection is very unpredictable and after the second session I learned that looks in a soapy girl are not that important. Firstly, I had my eyes closed most of the time anyway; secondly there is no romance and very little interaction while outside bed or tub.
My first soapy girl was Nat (No. 88) at La De’fense. She was tiny, skinny and for the first session it was decent. My second soapy was at Colonze 1. Her name was Pong (No. 201) and she gave massage during my whole trip, however, her BJ was very mediocre.
Photo: Pong 04
Third soapy was Tan from CH1, very good slip and slide. Recommend her highly (see MP report). My last provider was Am (No. 153) at Poseidon. This MP is by far the nicest I had seen, but Am was the worst soapy. I do not recommend her, but the overall visit to this nice place was worth it.
Photo: Tan
Photo: Am
12) Blow Job Bar:
The only place I went to was Lólita's (www.lolitasbangkok.com) on Soi 8. I was horny after a stroll through Soi Cowboy and NEP, but not ready to commit to a long-term relation i.e. Bar Fine Girl. Walking into Lólita's I saw some reasonably cute girls, the first approached me, took my hand, asked me if I wanted to sit down and order a beer, I declined and upstairs we went. The girl placed me onto a plastic leather couch inside a weirdly smelling room and encouraged to take of my pants.
I was the only customer that night and for privacy Lin, the girl who would suck me off, closed the rotten appearing curtains around us. After cleaning my Robertito with wipes for 1 minute, she wanted to start sucking. However, in my STD fear, I asked her to use a condom. I believe she almost fell over from shock and surprised. After Lin regained her composure, she walked downstairs to get a flavored condom and began sucking.
I have never received such a pleasant service for so little money. Compared to the soapy girls Lin really had nothing else to be good at than blowing and that she did very well. I let her suck for a good 15 minutes and blew a nice load. We went downstairs I paid 700 baht to the bar, gave Lin 300 (maybe too much in hindsight) and left a happy camper.
13) Memorable impressions and open questions:
1) At 6 pm I step out of the BTS, loud noise is blaring from the PA and the thousands of Thai running around like there is no tomorrow suddenly halt and stand until the noise is over. It reminded of a scene from The Matrix as time slowed down to a halt. Seconds later everybody as running at full pace again. I assume that was the national anthem and one is not supposed to move during its performance…
2) Thai give up their seats on the trains for children always, not for weak, slightly overweight farang.
3) Thai men don’t seem to spit on the floor, like Middle Easterners and Chinese.
4) Thai women and their farang boyfriends do not hold hands in public.
5) Why do all the soapy girls remove their number before allowing a picture?
6) Don’t step on money; since it has the face of the king, this offends Thai. (accomplished)
7) Don’t touch anyone’s head. Not accomplished, since I could not resist helping out my girls deep-throating me a little deeper.
8) Depression: Anybody else noticing this mood change throughout the day? I woke up often depressed, sad, even when in company. During the day I would then get euphoric and manic (leading to too much fucking). Obviously, the euphoria and mania did not bother me as much as the depressed waking up. I had this in past mongering excursions to TJ and am not sure if it was the hang over or also the effect of the jet lag. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
Online resources:
http://bkktonite.com/ (used their general information and web forum for research on MPs and Hotels)
http://thaiwebsites.com/ (links to urls in Thailand)
http://www.bangkokbob.net/ (expatriate’s guide to Bangkok with very good links, a must for all who travel to Bangkok.)
http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/stanti/index/index_index.html (Thai radio and TV online)
massage parlours:
http://voidxxxx.tripod.com/massage/thaimassage.html (good but a little outdated review of all MPs in BKK)
http://www.poseidon2000.com/suiterooms/thepalace.html
Maps:
http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/bangkok_map/bangkok_map_metro.html (city map)
http://map.yoasobiclub-anna.com/00map/phetburitatmai.htm (Japanese soapy map)
http://www.precisionreservations.com/ (Reservations and city map)
Night life:
http://www.cm2bkk.com/ (Best freelancer place for me)
http://www.qbarbangkok.com/whatsnext.php (Q Bar. Had a good time there, few freelancers, more regulars)
http://www.bedsupperclub.com/home.php (Didn’t like it, is more of a gimmick than serious nightclub and overpriced)
http://www.bangkokbargirls.info/ (cool site about Go-Go bars in Bangkok)
