Fourth Trip to Rio and its starting to become obvious that my fellow US countrymen are ruining the Rio scene. Perhaps it is only a matter of time before all tourist thermas and disco's are charging prices in US dollar values i.e. no more Rio market value sex. In the US you can get a pretty good escort for about 150 US for 30 min if you look for it. In Rio 150R is starting to become a joke to these Programma Garotas...Why? because Gringos are paying 300 and 400R for Help girls and Thermas are catching on by charging 250R for a hour sesion, which is still a good price but then they double the room charge for duplas. At Luomo for instance its 80R twice if you want a dupla. I ended up paying 550R(last therma sex)

Photo: Therma Dupla 01

for an hour dupla session at a therma. Good grief I mean thats 220US, my game is good in the US Ive been able to spend about 150 to 200US for US duplas, why do I have to pay 220US for a Rio therma dupla? Because of the miseducation of the Gringo.

In my report I will try to first enlighten my US brothers who really have to be educated in what they need to understand about how to maximize thier expenses and minimize the eroding sex trade in Rio. Then I will give some alternatives to Thermas and Help. Because in the end I want to show that the whole purpose we travel for sex is to payless. You can get beautiful women anywhere in the world. If you want to payless then dont overpay in Rio. Europeans and other foreigners are starting not to even come to Rio. They are venturing to other locations which I will mention to distribute the inflation of Rio.

Arrived at Rio Gig, touchdown!! Got a taxi, but failed to realize as soon as your there Brasileros are after ya! Got suckered by a guy who took my bags to the taxi and then negotiated a outrageous price 70R to the cabbie! Like Charles Barkley would say... Listen Up! When you get to Rio your immediatley subjected to price inflation. And if you dont catch on fast every local will test your knowledge. Start off with the simplest rule. Remember these locals average pay is 10-15R a day. And that will not change no matter how many rich gringos come over the border.

Arrive at my Rio connection and comrade Brazil Specialist. Immediatley I was involved with a out of this world steamin dupla session with Gleice and Lidiane.

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Two hours of nothing but bliss. These girls were sexual predators that will leave a man dazed and confused payed true market value 100R each for two hours now thats a deal.

If your really good at game and even know a little portuguese. You can get girls to spend the night for 100R. But you would probably have to start the programa really late.

Then later in the week I wanted to find out the true prices of what an average local who wanted some sex would go. Man! think about it what would a local man pay for what a local man in the us would pay. It dawned on me, let's go get that. Do you think a local man does not want a little action. When we went downtown Rio Centro. Immediatly I was impressed with how many hot young business women were everywhere. If you get a chance hang out downtown you'll have fun. And the sex is the best part. Ofcourse you would get lost if you dont have a guide but luckily B.S. was more than happy to show me the scence.

So for the first time I see locals getting girls. Well what are they paying? Special promotion 15R 20min, what a minute! You mean you can get action for that long! Well I met Andrea a tall bubble butted Mulatta that was more than happy to bang my brains out for 30min for 30R .

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Well I guess I got lucky with this one. But then we took a stroll to the next level of this multifloored play house. And I see a 35yr old loira sex goddess that was so soft and curvy I thought I was touching Chamin tissue paper.

Point is get out of just thermas and Help Disco, get a local and get back to cheap sex with top notch talent.

Thought that Rio Centro would not of had the fun to compare to where we went in local Copacabana, where only a few blocks from the beach we are in what looks like a local apartment but we come along Muiki a playmate style garota who for 15R would give you 15min of fun

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and if you liked it why not buy her for 30min or 40min, heck at the local therma rates why not take her all night for what they pay at tourist trap thermas. Of course pictures I post always back up my claimes to fame(or shame).

Freelancers like Priscilla or Camila

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and non tourist sex apartments, along with downtown is more than enough along with agencies to give the average US gringo a great two weeks although I say about 1000R a week for girls is more than enough or maybe you could have two duplas at a therma and be broke I dont know you tell me.

Next girl was a freelancer. I mean I was running one time with a bag of Mcdonalds to pay this out of this world runway model 200R(super hot)for three hours the most I payed for a single girl outside of Help I payed 200R but never again I said. To even add to that when I was running with the Mcdonalds I got this loira Vanessa to commit to 100R for an hour later in the week.

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I found www.classisex.com.br website and looked and these types of girls in Rio are going for too much. Curitiba and Forteleza places where gringos dont go are in my opinion are hobbyist four star choice for fun where I plan on enjoying the last days of single sex adventure.

But dont take just my word for it. Contact B.S. and ask him to educate you on the philosopy, N.O.P. or never over pay. I think if you look for a good time then make it a good time while you still can.
P.S. Still nothing compares to Karlas girls always got luv for them!!!

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NICE!!!!very educational...heh heh...
nice pics...

Nice report. Unfortunately I think the gringos who are messing things up are the ones who don't come to this site.

Damn! That was a flurry of hotties! Kudos to you EOTRE (New achronistic nickname pronounced yo-tray). Nice info, thanks for sharing with us!

Val

I live in Macae, and spent last week in Rio on business. My employer's office is in Centro, so that's where I was staying. I decided to check out some of the lower class termas in Bwana Dik's guide, and discovered that there ar still bargains to be had!

I was in Club MV 30 (Rua Mairink Viego, 30) about 6:00 Wednesday night. There weer about 3 girls for every guy. Of course there were some that I wouldn't take to a dog fight if they were defending champion, and some that any man would be proud to be seen in public with!

I chose a morena in her her 20's named Kelly. Good looks and body, but even better attitude. She spent a lot of time laughing at my piss poor attempt to speak Portuguese.

We spent forty minutes in a cabin. The first round was bbbj to completion, and the second started with a bbbj and ended up reverse cowgirl.

All told, with entry fee, two drinks for me and one for her, 40 minutes in the cabin, and tip for the locker room attendant, I got out for R$110. In my book that's pretty good value for money.

Thanks Bwana Dik!!

Nice score Jakalope!

You're welcome, Jakalope. But it can get even better. I had a two hour nooner today that cost...zip. Actually, I paid 8 reais for the cinema ticket, but that was it.

Where can I reserve an advance copy of "Bwana Diks' Guide to Theatric Sex". I'd pay 8 reals

This report is must reading. It kills me how some guys just pay whatever the chick asks. As in any market, there is an asking price. These garotas have learned to start out with a real high asking price, and the fools just pay that price (and ruin things for everyone else). I still love Rio, but it has definitely been adversely affected by the increased number of (foolish) Americans going down there.

Mirrors are great. Thanks for the photos.

ofcourse nothing ever beats free pussy, if I only spoke fluent portuguese I know I would get that most of the time, but hey its not like this is my whole life, I mean Its get to a point when I say to myself, where is the challenge, is there anything I have not done, and with Rio you can pretty much do everything, so now that I am back in the states I will just keep my wallet closed and save until my next trip to sex disneyland

Good point, Endoftheroadex. And, of course, no pussy is ever completely free, which is why we often like to negotiate the price ahead of time so we know the exact costs. But I can say this: my experience is that "free" pussy in Brasil is much closer to being free than "free" pussy in the States. So when I return to the States, I guarantee you I will keep my wallet closed even from the "free" variety.

The great thing about the "Disneyland of Sex" is that almost all the rides are "E ticket" rides but only require an "A ticket." In the States, most of the rides are of the A-B ticket variety but require an E ticket.

I suspect some of the kids on the board may not understand the ticket allusion here...

Endo and Elgran

It's all "Americans" who are stupid and paying the inflated prices???

I'm sure all the Europeans, with their overinflated Euros are towing the line and bargaining hard. . .

WS

just saw one of my favorite loira girls Vanessa on MikeinBrazil wow this is really not a big community in Rio, she is under the video dubbed pussy sandwhich, crazy thing is it was produced on May 5, I saw this girl like 10 days later, I dont know whats more exciting doing a girl before she goes public or doing her after

great report, you got some really hot women there.

mikeinbrasil does prove how small the world is down there. that guy must make a lot of money, because several of the girls on there I have talked to have told me they were only paid 500-600R for doing it (which was less than I would have thought as I had always heard they got about 1000R for films in general).

Camila and Priscilla have already been touched by the "miseducated gringo". They've made appearances in various American porn.

Looks like all of your pics are still from a video camera. I guess that means BS's girls are cool with you videotaping the action:-) Looks like I will have to drop by his place and pickup a few girls next weekend!

no girls are ever just cool with being videotaped, and if they did not want to do it for free, than I didnt even bother

How would someone contact a freelancer like Priscilla?

freelancers are not easy to come by unless you have a connection in Rio, meaning they speak portuguese and have access to them. Ofcourse I would reccomend you contact BrazilSpecialist he is an excellent source for them

Great report thanks for all the great info................

Mello 89:

What American Porn was Priscilla in?

Great idea! Posting the sign with the R$ 15 for 20 minute special. Even most middle class Brazilians and Copacabana girls are surprised about these prices.

The place has pretty decent girls. I think it is Buenos Aires 85. All 5 floors are whore houses. Bottom floor is really expensive with a minimum of R$ 20 or 40.

Yes, free lancers/amateurs are hard to come by. I like to meet them a year before they start in Help or a termas or become a porn star. Takes lots of time, $$, and frustration tolerance. To find a good one I have to endure lots of dogs that I have to send back with some transportation money.

You would not want me to post the photo of the one I had to give R$ 40 to get rid of. Beats me why my friend thought she was attractive enough for me.

Actually, lots of girls whose photos are here got picked up by some of you guys in my place.

Monique, Priscilla (aka Prissy), and many more.

end of the read is so depressing-OUTSTANDING
especially since it is slanted toward budget conscious brethern. great, great job.
Muiki was 5 bucks every 15 mins?
man, I would have run out of 5's quick.
looking for ward to your 5th trip/report, and to MY first!

curiousone, I didnt edit my story well enough this was only my third trip but when I was writing my story I was already thinking about my fourth trip, I have spent a total of four weeks in Rio , I wont be back until April of 2007, but this time it will be a four week trip,Im pretty sure the Federalies will have to arrest me, put me in a straight jacket and "Hannibal Lecter" face mask, and cart me back to the airport because I wont want to leave!

brothel pricing requires a different strategy.

If you do 8x 15 minute sessions in a row, you might as well use karlamodels in the cleanliness of your own room.

You take one girl for a 15 minutes session. Then you have the next girl lined up to instantly come in for the next 15 minutes. Or you take a 15 minute break and then go for the next 15 minutes with the next girl.

Endoftheroadex screwed up once. Did not listen to my advice and booked a 30 minute session. They even ripped him off and charged him R$ 40. He did not know that these girls are trained to get you off in 12 minutes. Could have paid R$ 15 instead.

The 10 minute session really is kind of short, but there is much you can do in 15-20 minutes. Just don't waste time.

For R$ 40 I do 2-3 girls there. Why waste money!

Often I even give outrageous tips of R$ 10 (note that the girl gets only half of the R$ 15, so I actually tip 150 % of what she gets!!)

Another strategy, an invention of mine: you take 2 girls for 15 minutes. One waves a towel, or better a cardboard, to replace the broken fan and missing aircon, while you do the other girl. After a few minutes, you switch and fuck the fan girl.

Possibilities are endless.

Also note to bring 2 own towels, one for drying off after the shower and one to put over the not-so-clean bedsheet.

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This is in answer to

curiousone: "Muiki was 5 bucks every 15 mins? "

More cheapskate advice to follow:

Endoftheroadex screwed up more times. Like the R$ 550 termas visit.

R$ 550 Could get you 30 girls downtown, 55 girls if you really push it. Or 5 karlamodels girls, with the right to invite 3 of your best male friends to join in for free in a 4 guy on 5 girl orgy! Or 4 such orgies with 5 girls, for a total of 4x5 = 20 girls for a total of 4x2 = 8 hours, if your 3 male friends chip in their fair share of the cost.

One basic cheapskate rule is: "always take the cheapest room for the shortest time with only one girl". At least at an expensive termas, if you are not rich.

I myself violate this rule occasionally. Instead of taking one girl for R$ 10, I take 2 for R$ 15 each for a total of R$ 30. Sometimes I like to be a high roller and splurge!!

But doing the same in an expensive termas is a different story: you should not do 2 girls for a total of R$ 550 if you can do one girl for R$ 200. Unless if 200 dollars for you is chump change, then all power to you. Or if you have 1 week of vacation to blow a year's savings and really don't care.

Actually, it seems some termas allow you to do orgies, 2 guys with 2 girls with free switching. That sounds like an interesting way for cheapskates to save. Anyone can report their experiences? It seems you have to get the girls' permission that they allow free girl switching.

I know Brazilians that pick up girls at Help at 11 pm. They offer the girl R$ 50 per guy for a blow job. They are 2-3 guys, so the girl leaves with R$ 100 or 150. Amazingly they find lots of takers, among the younger and less experienced crowd.

Hey, how much are those girls in classisex? They look good. BTW, years ago, say round 1985, there were girls in cinelandia (next to mesbla) in rio with local hotels just upstairs. Very reasonable. Also, you can meet girls in Copa who will just want to convince you to return to the U.S. with them or so it was back in the 80s

Classisex girls are in Curitiba, 2 hours flight from Rio. If someone gives me an excuse, I might go there some time. It also is on the way to Iguaçu falls.

I called there years ago, but prices probably are still the same. Prices are much lower then in Rio, probably about R$ 60 to 100, rarely more then 100. I think never more then 150. I think that is for an hour or two. Incall is even cheaper, for short periods

Certainly no Barbarella pricing!!

Oh fuck, I desperately need help. Unfortunately, I didn't read your report till yesterday after I returned from 12 days in Rio. I know this won't surprise you guys too much, but I think I overpaid a little. The only bargain I got down there was the cashews on the beach. I know I'm kind of like" Rainman," but I need a little assistance on my next trip. R$15 for a woman, I can't believe it! Jorge, that little bastard, was charging me R$15 for a fucking coconut drink on the beach.

Those coconuts are $R1.50 at the kiosks on the "boardwalk" that the beach chair guys get them from. You REALLY got ripped. Even Paulo (the pirate--is he still in business--I didn't see his tent in December?) only charged me R$5.

Jaguar definitely looking forward to your report. I hope you had a good time. The Brazil economy definitely needs a guy like you. Based on your spending habits I'm sure you can easily get a Permanent Resident Visa (just kidding my friend). Hemp

I think I am going to write a sequel to my story, only this time I will call it the no education of the gringo!!! what in the world is anyone thinking (no offense Jaguar) but if you spend 15R for a coconut thats more than what the avg Brasilero makes in a day, a realization that the Gringo gets what I like to refer to as capless inflation, or in simple terms "fool! were gonna see how much your stupid gringo ass is gonna pay" for basically anything that requires money, cab, hotel, girls, food, ect ect.
Hey B.S. about you wanting to go to Curitiba well I am definetley going to go on my last trip as well as wanting to see Foz de Igacu so your old pal Endo is down maybe we can find some girls like the nameless one

It's entirely possible to find girls during the day in and around Help, Meah Pataca and hooker beach, who will go to your room for 100R/2 hours. That's the way to utilize your over-priced apt in Copa. They'll go for even less after the first time. One really sweet gal was hitting my apt first thing after she would arrive in Copa, around 5 PM. 50R, and she was a blast. Another was in my building and after a few days of riding in the elevator, she rode me - 100R first time, 70R the next two times. She was awesome, too. Another black gal was buying shoes, so I milled around outside until she walked out. A half-hour later she was naked in my apt, 100R. She wanted to know how I knew she was a programa garota (lol)

And it's not only during the day. There was a 19 y.o. standing at T.A. around 11:15 PM. She looked friendly, and for some reason I walked up and said my apt was a 3 minute walk and asked if she wanted to see it for 50R. She came and I was expecting a quick bj, but she wanted full service and was a sweetheart.

What a phuckin' place....

Note to self...

Next trip to Brazil, EXPLORE less expensive alternatives. GREAT INFO!!!!!!!

Randalst, I suspect you are attractive or have some qualities that girls like.

I never heard of girls being available for R$ 50 at Help, Terraço Atlantico, Meia Pataca.

So what is your age, hair color, eye color, body fat content, baldness, etc?? Socializing skills, etc??

BS-You are kidding our fellow hombre of course??

BS - In order of your questions - 46, brown, green, 16%, lots of hair. I am sociable. Actually, you and I talked one day for an hour on your porch, you swinging in your chair and me to your left. Remember?

What I said is true - to the penny. There is one girl I pay 200R for 2 or 3 hours (and once 300R overnight) but she is so exquisite, I make an exception. Still, last time I was annoyed she didn't cut me a break given (IMHO) she likes hanging out. But I have a considerable list of others - some also exceptional - who go for from $50 to 150R.

I treat girls I like as family. So do other guys on this board, who also get steep discounts. As far as the first-timers who go for those prices, I don't have an answer, except to say, I work at being in the right place at the right time, all day, every day I'm in Rio. Unlike you (and others) who live there, I don't have the luxury of letting minutes escape me. I try to use my time the best way possible - for now, the next hour, day, week and trip.

I usually let the garota move at her pace, which makes her feel comfortable. When I approach someone new, I act like I'm not desperate, but if she wants to come, know me, etc., she'll forget about her distasteful routine for a while. That's my actual wish for her, because then she relaxes and you know what that means. Plus, I want to be relaxed, too, and why not? I'm on vacation. The ones who are opposite that disposition, who want to make 300R and run, they act nervous, look away, and look for a mirror to see how awesome they are. They may be awesome, but they're usually not an awesome phuck. I've been burned enough times by awesome looking girls to know better.

By the way, Two girls do me gratis when I go and 2 others would, but they're a little strange. It's too bad because the strange ones are virgin-like in so many ways, but free pu*sy is never free. Their expectations of me were over the top - so I had to let them go. The two who do see me gratis don't like it when they find me hunting, or worse, with another girl, but they're willing to see if I can change.

Ya know what I mean?

B.S., you never emailed me back about Operation Tidal Wave October 2005, this is what you have been waiting for!!!gringo with an almost unlimited spending limit, the difference between spending a lot and spending a little in Rio has nothing at all to do with the women, you can find superstars like Muiki(in my report) for 15R
the difference is the style, enviroment, location, and class of lady that changes the experience, Im sure for your translation skills, and knowledge of Brazil, you wouldnt mind traveling to Curitiba for some programma, or how about Centaraus just to say you did it, hell I could even pay the nameless girl what she is worth!!!