Wow! I just returned from Angeles City, bags still on the floor, fresh from the airport. I have decided to make this trip report geared for all, not only the veteran, but also for those that have never been and planning to go. I will include some very basic information so I hope I don’t bore any of the veterans. My hope is that this report will be informative, practical and entertaining to all.

I might state some opinions in the report about certain things, like the hotels or the girls. Everyone has different viewpoints and I know that my opinion is not the only one around. One of the reasons why I am posting this report is to hear the different viewpoints of members. I cant really discuss the trip with any of the people in my social or business circle for obvious reasons. It wouldn’t be appropriate for me to go into work on Monday and discuss the trip details with my work buddies. So this forum is good for us to have an open discussion. It sucks to go on a trip and not be able to talk about it.

One last disclaimer, all the girls talked about and photographed in the report are over 18 years of age. I made it a point to ask and I checked their identification.

Trip Purpose and Introduction:

Ever turn the television on late at night and see a commercial for “Girls Gone Wild”. There is one rendition of the commercial which involves Mardi Gras and Snoop Dog. There are hundreds of girls tearing off their shirts and getting freaky. The scene is hot and the video suggests that Mardi Gras is the place to be to get the women. Then the camera pans over to Snoop Dog and the announcer then states “Lets see what happens when Snoop Dog gets behind the camera”. Suddenly, it seems as if gasoline was thrown on the flames and the girls start acting like a bunch of hungry dogs thrown some meat.

Now lets turn to reality. Chances are that you will spend over a thousand dollars and never get laid at Mardi Gras. You will party, see a lot of naked breasts and get drunk. You might get laid, but its not guaranteed and the woman may not even be that attractive. You certainly wont get laid multiple times a day by different women and in 3somes or orgies. In the end, you are left with faded drunken memories, but not of any real action back in the hotel room.

I am in my early 30s, work a job and am your average single male American. I have been out with many women in my lifetime and each time it has cost me in terms of finances and emotions. As well, I have been out to bars many times and gone on lots of useless trips where, in the end, I spent lots of cash with little to show in terms of action. I like going on these trips because there is a 100% chance of me seeing action. As well, there is little chance of me having on-demand 3somes back in the states. On these trips, its 100% possible to have the same experiences that porn-stars enjoy, but wouldn’t be a reality for yourself normally.

Some people have a moral dilemma when it comes to a sexually oriented vacation. However, these same people with the morality issues have no problem throwing money around at regular bars, dates and on Mardi Gras type trips. At this point in my life, I see no difference between handing the money to the woman directly versus using one of the more in-direct methods. I actually feel good when I hand money to a woman in one of these 3rd world countries. They seem more deserving then say your local bar owner where you might go on a typical Friday night to stir up some action or the local restaurant owner where you might go to take a regular date.

Getting there/Getting back-

The two words that best describe getting to and from Angeles City is punishing and agonizing. From America, you have to take an 18 hour flight to Hong Kong and then get on another 2 hour flight to Manila. These flight times do not count the time it takes to park at the airport, delays of the airline, getting through immigration, getting your bags, etc. Once you get to Manila, you then have to ride another 2 hours through some horrible traffic where no one seems to care about the traffic rules. Its highly likely that you might have to be in cars/planes over 24 hours before you even see Angeles City.

Here are some tips that have helped me through this agonizing process. Before you go, exercise, eat healthy and get as much sleep as possible. If you work a job, like myself, then try to slow down your work load and reduce the drama, if possible. Once your there, try to get out in the sun and exercise. The pool at the Orchid Inn and the park, not too far from Fields Ave, seem like good places to take in the sun. “Jet-lag” has many possible different side effects including fever, diahrea, insomnia, etc. Right now I am feeling sick with a runny nose and light fever. I believe it to be caused by the jet lag.

In packing before the trip, consider taking carry-on luggage only. Check with the airline website to find out the specifics. Most of the airlines loosely enforce the carry-on regulations. No one measured or weighed my carry-on luggage. I did see some guys bring on more than one carry-on and they were obviously greater than the 15-lb limit. There are many different luggage makers who have designed specific luggage that will meet exactly the airline’s requirements. If you must check a bag then consider that you will have to wait an extra 30-60 minutes for it to come off the conveyor. As well, there have been reports of stolen items in checked baggage at the Manila airport and airlines have been known to lose the entire bag on occasion.

There is a 7-11 in Angeles City that you will be able to walk to. This 7-11 carries many personal items and so you really don’t need to bring many of the usual personal items. I noted that they carried Shick razors, Colgate toothpaste, Safeguard soap, etc. There were many name-brand items, but the selection was limited. The pricing at the 7-11 is out of this world cheap. That same bottle of Gatorade that costs $1.79 at my local 7-11 only costs $.50 at the Angeles City 7-11. A cup of coffee costs $.20 while that same cup costs $1.20 at my localized version. You might want to consider taking no personal items and just purchasing everything when you first get there. You also want to purchase everything at the 7-11 versus getting it out of the hotel “mini-bar”. The prices of items in the mini-bar are double to triple when compared to AC 7-11.

When you get off the plane and you know that your next stop is “immigration” or “customs”, do not walk, run. Immigration agents are notoriously slow and everyone that gets in front of you will end up slowing your process down. Don’t be afraid of being rude and running past everyone. The slower you proceed to immigration, the longer you will have to wait in line. I have waited in these lines for 45 minutes at times and it is not fun.

Hotel-

I chose the Hotel Royal Amsterdam for the two weeks I was in Angeles City. Its right on top of the street action and everything in the hotel is new (built in late 2004). My room was #305. It had a king sized bed, huge double doored closets, one loveseat (2 person leather sofa), one leather chair, and oak nightstands/table. I felt that this was more room then I actually needed. The couches were beneficial in that it provided an extra place to have sex besides the bed. I also used the small coffee table and oak table for some kinky sex positions as well. The couches also provided a nice place to sulk and watch television or for the honeys to sit on when they were just hanging out.

The restaurant, “Stephanies”, in the hotel was good. However, I felt the Orchid Inn had better tasting food, larger portions and cheaper prices. There was also a place called “Sub-Delicious”, just a walk up the street, that had a comparable menu and cheaper prices then either hotel. The steaks at the Orchid Inn are the best I have tasted in the entire country and the pricing cant be beat. 400 pesos (about 7 dollars) for a huge New York cut steak. I recommend avoiding Stephanies and trying the other alternatives.

I explored around the hotel and took several pictures. The main difference between the cheap rooms versus more expensive rooms is simply size and a few bits of extra furniture. You receive the same service no matter what room you get. The main purpose of your stay is just sex so all you really need is a good bed. The 16-27.50 dollar rooms are good enough and you wont be disappointed.

However, I must say this. All of the rooms have a window. Sometimes that window is facing the exterior and other times it is facing the interior annex. If you get a room with an exterior facing window, you will hear some noise. That noise is of various things that just happen to be going on outside, karaoke clubs, trike drivers, etc. It wont be a loud chorus, but more of a low din. The curtains don’t seem to be your heavy duty “black out” type that are found in most hotels. They will not seal out all the light and noise. I am not a light sleeper and during the night, I was engaged in other activities where I didn’t quite mind the low din of noise.

The first floor rooms have a different entrance way then the 2-4th floor rooms. You must walk past the kitchen and front desk which might get a little weird. I would feel weird walking past the restaurant staff each time with my barfines. The 1st floor rooms are not for me.

When you reserve a room at this location, be very specific as to what you want and ask questions if unsure. If you don’t want a window facing the street, tell them. Make reservations well in advance (at least 2 months) as the hotel was sold out the entire time I was there.

As with most mongering hotels, the typical guest is your older unaccompanied male, 40-60 years old. The hotel at night is usually very peaceful as a result. You wont see the guests vomiting in the hallways or hear loud raucus parties going on in the next room.

The Girls-

In my opinion, I believe the girls to look the same as the regular Filipinos you are accustomed to seeing in the states. The exception is that these girls tend to be more slender than their American counter-parts. I have always been one that has been attracted to Filipino women. Some guys might not have the same attraction as me however.

The average age among the girls tends to be the early 20s. Its not hard to find ones that are real young, 18-20 age range, however. There are also a few in their early 30s that can be found, that is, if that’s your poison. They come from varied backgrounds, but most, if not all, are simply very poor by American standards. Some are students trying to make some quick cash for tuition, others are straight from the farm-fishing boat type, etc. Most speak English, but if you really start trying to explain something complex, the girls might start to struggle.

There was one girl who told me that she really didn’t have to work since she had 500,000 pesos in the bank provided to her by an ex-boyfriend. Translation, $5300 in the bank??? I wish I could feel that same type of security back home in the United States.

My day to day routine during the trip was to find a short time session during the day and then head out during the night for the “main event”. My opinion is that the best women in the city are to be found between the hours of 7-11pm. The bars tend to line-up the best looking women during the evening shift. The evening shift usually starts at 7pm and its best to get to your favorite bar right at that time. The later you wait, the more chance that some other monger is going to pick up the better looking women. If you waited to long, chances are that you will be looking among the “scraps”.

There were more than a few times I would barfine the same girl again and again. I would have her bring along a different friend each time though;) There are advantages and disadvantages to a repeat barfine. You can usually get away with nastier and kinkier stuff with a repeat. You will also get better treatment. There was one girl who stopped by my place on her day off to care for me when I wasn’t feeling good. There was another “repeater” that shooed away some guy that bought her lady’s drinks just to sit with me when I entered the bar. The disadvantage is that your not getting that variety that you came to Angeles City in the first place to experience with the “repeaters”.

When I first started making these trips to Angeles City, I would be so excited that I would go to the first bar I saw and barfine just about any girl. I wouldn’t buy drinks or hang around at all. Then she would get back to the room with me where I had her strip and then the fucking began. Well, this strategy resulted in less good sex and more “runners”. As well, you will notice, at times, that some of the bar girls will make up an excuse not to go with you (“Im on mens” seems most common). So in the next paragraph I will explain in detail what works for myself in regards to getting great sex out of the girls and less “running” and less excuses.

Before you begin your trip, try to lose that weight. At one time, I did have a small double chin and on my earlier trips I was getting the “Im on mens” excuse on more than a few occasions. Now that I have lost the weight and am in much greater shape, the response from the ladies is 100% better. Before you go to the bar, prepare as if you were going out to a real American bar to pick up women. Shower, dress stylishly, get rid of that beard and look yourself over. A little *light* cologne and deodorant is also a must. When you are at the bar, forget about the fact that you have to pay a fee and that this is basically prostitution. Pretend that this is a real bar in America and talk with the ladies the same way. Sit down with them, buy them a drink, hold their hand, look in their eyes, ask them where they are from in the Philippines, ask about their family, etc. Before you break out the cash, ask the girl if you can barfine them and how long they plan on staying. Then break out your cash and go back to the hotel room. Once you are in the room, dim the lights and cuddle with them for a bit. Get some liquor out of the mini-bar and poor them a drink. Talk with them some more, maybe even watch television for a bit. When the mood is softened up, then make your moves and fuck the daylights out of them.

I found the cellphone to be an essential part of my mongering equipment. I bought one off of Ebay with a Smart sim card before I went. Sometimes you could get one of the past barfines to come over during the day or page her to ask if she has any friends. This was essential to getting good daytime action. I wasn’t fond of the “Dollhouse”. The morning lineup was simply horrible. I barfined one girl from that lineup and regretted it.

The one thing I noticed about the girls is that you truly do not appreciate their nice slender bodies until you are back in the states with the regular fat bodied white woman. This fact became clear to me when I was waiting for my luggage at the conveyor. All those fat asses congregating around the luggage.

The Bars

The girls basically work in “the bars”. The bars can be found in two places, Fields Ave area and the “Perimeter”. My preference is Fields Ave and I stuck with the main bars. My opinion is that the best looking girls are usually found in the main bars. I found a lot of high quality women in Blue Nile, Neros, Viper Room, Bunny Ranch and the Classroom. The lesser or smaller bars seemed not to have as much selection. Everyone has their preferences on this issue so Im not saying that mine is the right one.

There are the Santos Street girls or “freelancers”. These girls are your basic street walker type of prostitute. My preference is to stay away from these girls. The girls working in the bar have to register with the local government and carry these bright pink cards. The girls are looked at by a doctor on a weekly basis and are tested for HIV once a year. The registered bar girl is also usually above 18, they check the identification. The unregistered Santos Street girls doesn’t have to go through this process. So the question is why don’t these girls seek employment at the bars? Is it because they flunked the HIV test? Is it because they are underage? Maybe they are just trying to get higher margins and better freedom by working on their own? Is one of these underaged girls a trap for the local police to extort cash out of you? Who knows. To me the risk is unacceptable with these girls.

The Mongers-

The typical mongering crowd at this location seems to be the following: older males (40+), asian male business types, and Australian rugby types. I am in my early 30s and among a very small minority of mongers in this crowd. You usually will never see males in their 20s in Angeles City.

However, there is a new mongering crowd in town and that is the United States military. As we all know, Clark used to be a major airbase and that’s what started up the bar scene in Angeles. However, Clark was shut down for military operations back in 1991 and the military mongers essentially vanished. The US military has returned to Clark in a limited capacity due to ongoing military action against the Abu Sayef in recent days. How recent? Actually, I was watching CNN and they reported that a combined US-Filipino 5000 strong force was engaged in training operations. They were using Clark as a staging area before heading to the southern Mindanao province. I looked out the window and saw two C-130 aircraft that just took off from the base flying to the south. I wondered how long it would take for those airmen and Marines to find their way to Fields Ave (they were not present when I was at the bars in the preceding days). Well, it didn’t take long, the next night I saw teams of 20-somethings in military cuts wondering the streets.

My belief and hope is that the military mongers will be gone soon. I read that the exercises are only running until November 1st. I have nothing against the military and, in-fact, I was in the service many years ago. However, the military crowd will not be good for the rest of us mongers. The peaceful mongering hotel would be turned into a wild fraternity party. The competition for bargirls would be unreal, i.e. it would be difficult to compete with some young 20-something in-shape male. Then the maturity level would also reach an all time low.

Here is a good example, I was at this one bar when I saw my one bar-girl friend Joy, she is actually in one of my pictures. She is 18 and has some hot looks. At any given time she has multiple barfines and her cell phone is always going off (she is also married, haha). I talk with her every time I go into the bar. On the last night I was in town, I went into the bar to meet with another girl, not Joy. Joy was sitting with two young Marine guys. She sees me, smiles and waives hi. Then asks me how I am doing. The two Marines simply grunt at me and act like I am hitting on their girlfriend. If those two Marines were just part of the regular mongering crowd, then I bet they would have been a lot friendlier to me and more understanding. I wasn’t even trying to barfine Joy, she was just trying to say hi and be friendly. As well, she should, because I fucked her good the first week I was there.

The fact of the matter is that these girls are here for the cash and they set aside their moral convictions in regards. “Joy” gets fucked by different guys almost every night of the week and its a running joke at the bar she works at. I fucked at least 5 other girls including Joy at the same bar, sometimes more than one at a time in “3somes”. I think I even started to become a centerpiece at that bar with the mamason sitting with me at the same table everytime I came in. Mature mongers realize that these girls have other guys on their plates, that’s how the money is made. I can foresee angry fights breaking out if the military crowd decides to stick around.

Turnover/Changes-

One of the best things about Angeles City is the turnover and changes that occur from day to day. Its amazing how new bargirls come and old bargirls go. New hotels are built and new bars go up or are simply reorganized under new ownership.

The last time I was in Angeles City was about six months ago. I only saw a very few bargirls that were still working from that time, there are many new faces. Some of the bars appear to have changed names or were renovated completely.

I personally enjoy this fact about Angeles City because each time I go there is a new pot of girls to choose from. Every visit to AC is a new adventure for myself.

Videos/Pictures-

I have found that most of the girls don’t care if you take pictures of them with their clothes on. A smaller percentage don’t care if you take pictures of them naked. Actual porn style videotaping is usually strongly resisted with concerns of you throwing it on the internet as their main issue.

So, with that said, I had purchased the Sony HC90 mini-dv camcorder for this trip. This is the best single chip camcorder on the market, in my opinion, and its very compact. I chose the single chip over the 3chip because of expense, low light performance and compactness. This is a very small camcorder that fits in the palm of your hand.

I hid the camcorder in the mini-bar basket on top of the mini-fridge. The camcorder was propped up just enough (by bags of m&ms and crackers) so the lens just poked over the top. While the woman was in the bathroom, I would quickly set the camcorder up and threw my shirt on top of it. It looked as if I took my shirt off and flung it over the basket carelessly. When I knew the tape ran out or batteries went dead, I simply acted as if I was going over to the mini-bar to grab a snack and then I would snatch the camera while I was at it.

There were a few girls who did allow me to just break out the camera on a tripod in front of them and do some full-on porn taping.

If you want to do some serious shooting, consider the lighting. The room lighting simply sucks. If you’re really serious about videos or pictures, consider taking a professional lighting setup or at least some better light bulbs. Most of the hotels have these dim light-saving type.

Marriage/Serious Thinking-

On some occasions, there are some mongers who decide to take things a little bit further.

I would say that most of the bargirls are indeed sweet and caring and would make great loyal wives, but there might be a few obvious snags.

First, is that most of the girls have no skills that would produce a serious income back here in the United States. These girls are not the medical care variety that you have seen here in the states.

Second, I have known a lot of Filipinas in the states that simply changed personalities 180 degrees when they land here and obtain citizenship. A Filipino in the old country is a much different animal then one that has been Americanized back here in the states.

Third, once you get them here to the United States then they will probably want to bring their entire family over. Consider this, put yourself in their shoes. If your family was left in some poor 3rd world nation, wouldn’t you want to get them over to the 1st world? So you might marry them now, but later on you might be living with their fathers, mothers, aunts and cousins as they all filter here to the states.

Before you take the plunge, discuss it with your family and friends and talk it out. Go on the internet and search for actual stories of guys who have done this. Think and plan, know what you might be getting yourself into.

I did hear of one key advantage. There was one monger that I heard of that made a deal with his new wife. The deal was that they would visit the bars together at least once a year. Now that’s a sweet deal, a mongering arrangement with your wife.

Laptops-

Bring them. They are not truly needed, but you need something to do with the off-time. There are many internet cafes, but its awkward trying to surf the net and write emails amongst all the Filipinos in the café. Plus you want to edit your photos, write reports, etc.


Condoms-

Some of the bargirls will not require you to use condoms, especially repeat barfines. Some of the girls even asked me to take it off.

Well, we are all adults here and I don’t need to stand on the podium lecturing about STDs or unwanted pregnancies. Use your best judgment.

If you are a condom fan, as am I, get some quality ones before you leave. The ones I saw in the good ole AC 7-11 just didn’t appear familiar or trustable to me. There are a few online websites to get good quality ones in bulk before you go.

I used Trojan Magnum XLs and wont use anything else.

Street salesmen and the “AC walk”-

The single most annoying thing to me in Angeles City is the vendors who seem to attack you from the moment you step outside of the hotel aka the “green zone”. The moment you step outside of the “green zone” you are instantly approached by several men selling everything from fake Viagra, leather belts, sunglasses, etc. One guy even had a pair of green binoculars (what will I do with these?) Then there are the trike drivers that scream “trike” every time you are within a hundred feet. It doesn’t end there, however. Then there are the freelance street girls and my personal favorite, the street children. The street children will grab your arm and wont let go until you grease their palms. Even inside the bars, you are approached by salesman who want to snap your photograph, sell you roses, sell you peanuts, etc.

I have developed a fast paced walk, the only way to avoid these salesman. I call it the “AC walk”. There is of course the “AC run”. This is wear I break out into a full blown run in an attempt to get away from the street children.

Prices-

Please, please, always try to use the most economical approach when you go to Angeles even if you are a rich man and can afford it. Ask yourself, do you really need to rent out a $55 Jacuzzi suite when the $35 superior room would do just fine?

The simple reasoning for this is that everyone who owns a business in Angeles City wants to see prices go up. In fact, it does seem as if prices have gone up substantially in the last few years. You may think that prices are still cheap now, but it was a lot cheaper two years ago.

Do not encourage the business owners to up the prices. Do not play into their game. If they find that you have no problem paying one price, they will try to up it another 10% the next go around.

So with that said, do not stay at the Wild Orchid Inn or any other place that wants to charge top shelf prices. This place is an obnoxious blasephemy. We want to continue on with getting laid at reasonable prices, not pay out the nose. Dont let the hotel owners gain the upper hand.

Conclusions/Recommendations-

Go to AC! Go to AC! Go to AC! I have found the perfect trip length is two weeks and that once you go, you must go back for a second or third trip.

I have found the true appreciation of the trip is not completely realized until a few weeks afterwards. Usually you are back in your normal routine and you find yourself rewinding through videotapes and digital pictures. You keep hitting yourself thinking that you should have barfined that girl or this girl or had a group session with those girls. It takes a few mongering trips to perfect your techniques and figure out what works best in what area. One trip is never enough and its best to go now rather than later. All it takes is for Arroyo to hop in the Mercedes, drive 2 hours and call all this off.

Someone emailed me asking if all this flying was worth it. As I have said before, there is a 100% chance of getting laid on this trip. I would have to say its completely worth it.

Here are pictures of various girls that I encountered during the trip. All the girls in the photos are above 18 years of age. Sorry to have fuzzed out part of their faces, but most of the girls concerns were that I would post the pictures on the internet. I wanted to at least partially respect their concerns and privacy. I like to be the "nice guy" on occasion and so I hope you guys respect that:

Photos: Various Girls 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

Here are detailed pictures of the Hotel Royal Amsterdam:

My room, #305:





The view from my window, Room #305:




The door to this room was open as the maid was cleaning it. This room is #301 and does not have an exterior facing window. It looked like a great deal:





This is the annex of the hotel. The annex covers floors 2-4 and some of the rooms windows face this annex:




Another room that just happened to be open, Room#401:




This is a picture of the 4th floor:


This is a picture of the price list of different items at the Amsterdam. Wow! A nice leather couch for $178.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and pics.

Thanks for taking the time to write an excellent report. I was also at the Royal Amsterdam from Oct 9-15. I was in room 204. We probably crossed paths without knowing it at some point during my stay.

As far as I can tell you might have been given a little bit of bargirl BS concerning the girls working from the Santos street bars. My Santos street favourite explained that they have the same requirements as all the other bars. She showed me her card , although I really didn’t look at it too closely. There may also be some genuine freelancers working along Santos who are not properly registered.

I am a little surprised by the fact that I was offered bareback sex from most of the girls. This is both Santos girls and the girls from the main bars. Of course this is an offer I declined as I have never and will never bareback a working girl.

I’ll post of few of my pictures under the appropriate topics over the next few days.

Nice write up Ironeagle, thanks.

I am so glad my trip is scheduled for November 18th, hopefully long after the military has left. I am early 30's as well and I don't want to lose the ONE thing I have going for me compared to most Angeles visitors.

If this is going to be a regular joint exercise between the US and Philippine militaries, it may be good idea to cross off Angeles during those dates, just like when Cobra Gold hits Pattaya.

I've become somewhat addicted to AC recently and really like it. I didn't have a good time my first time there, but when I returned in February and hung up with a bunch of fellow CH'ers I had a blast. I think the best way to do AC is with a bunch of fellow Hombres, but I still have a good time by myself as well.

BTW, I recognize your girl in picture 20 from Bananitas. As I recall, 18 or 19 years old and about two weeks off the bus (if that can be believed) when I met her there in September. Nice BBBJ, good sex overall and a great, tight body! I've got some pictures I will be posting when I get around to writing my report.

Jrsx,

I didnt mean the girls working in the bars on Santos Street, I meant the girls actually walking the street. I guess you could call them "freelancers" or "street walkers". Sometimes there seemed to be none and then there was one night where there seemed to be quite a few. They seemed to congregate around the trike drivers where Santos and Field intersect.

I might give these girls a try one day. I know that a few members from the board have reported that you can get discounted rates from these girls (versus the bars).

It felt a little funny to me since these girls were not actually working in the bars. I wasnt sure if it was a police setup or maybe these were the rejects from the hygeine tests. This may have been their day off from another bar and they were just out to make some extra cash. I didnt have much knowledge of their situation so I shyed away.

I forgot to put in my report that the one thing that really irked me about the Amsterdam was the whole towel bit. I wasnt going to pay extra for more towels and tried to make due with the two towels. It was difficult at times because there was multiple showers going on between me and the girls. I remember that the Orchid had lots of towels and they would send up more upon request.

I felt they put a lot of detail into the Amsterdam. I noted that the letters "RA" were carved on the bed board. It makes you feel like your in Europe. Its little things that pissed me off, however. The two little things were the towels and the non-hotel quality curtains. I have never been to a hotel that didnt have the heavy duty black-out type curtains. The black-out curtains would have probably cut down any street noise as well.

Did Room 204 face the street and how was the noise factor in your room?
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Xenono,

I too did not have a great time when I first went many moons ago. I guess when you first go to the Philippines, you expect the worst and dont really know what to do. My opinion is that you have to go multiple times in order to truly enjoy the scene.

I did try to hang out with some CH members this time around, but I lacked coordination and it didnt take place.

This entire mongering community has become a huge addiction for me as well. There are many aspects about my life that are indeed unenjoyable. I work hard at a thankless job and receive only a paycheck in return. I deal with a**holes and problems on an hourly basis and I have no confidence that I will ever be promoted. Its these trips that renew your confidence as a male and it should. There is nothing like two 20-something or late teenage naked females to renew that male confidence.

The Bananitas chick was the best looking one in the line-up. There was no question in my mind of who I would pick when I walked in. If this chick were in Los Angeles or New York, then I bet she would be able to meet some rich boyfriend in accelerated time. The only drawback was her personality I thought. She was clearly from the farm or fishing boat, but a nice welcoming personality overall.

As the plane cruised around Manila and I looked down at the farm-land/fishing boats, I wondered how many cute chicks like the Bananitas girl are stuck there. In the Phils, they are just any other girl, but in the US all the guys would be all over them.

Hey Ironeagle, welcome to the AC apologist club :-) Like Xeneno, I've been quite infatuated with the Phils lately. It's consistently been 100% guaranteed good times for me.

Your dilemma in not being able to share your exploits and pics with your social/business circle hits home with me. Before I used to hang w/the hombres, it was really frustrating to keep all those great memories and pics to myself. I think that's where the value of a board like this and it's members are for me.

Anyway, a fantastic report, I appreciate all the info and the hottie pics.

There is one small detail that I would like to add to the report. In one of the out the window pictures, an open blue garage can be seen in the distance. This is that famous all-night filipino Karaoke place that keeps some RA guests up nights. I judged the volume not as a loud chorus, but a low din background din. There were times when this chorus was louder than other times. The other out the window shot is towards fields.

If you follow that row of blue garages, somewhere around the Bunny Ranch is a laundry where I think the rate for clothes was 30 pesos for 5 kilograms. I looked inside their operation and they did use electric washing/drying machines. The point of the laundry is that you can get away with taking a carry-on loaded with 3-4 changes of clothes and launder the rest while you are there.

On this trip, I brought a large samsonite case filled with 10 pairs of clothes. This was nice, but contributed to about 30-45 minutes of waiting time at the baggage conveyor. It also took me another 30 minutes every time I had to pack this large case up. For example, packing to go to the phils, unpacking the case into the RA closets, repacking the case to go home, unpacking the case at home. There was also some anxiety as to whether or not the contents of the case would be lost or stolen or if customs/TSA wanted to delay my trip further and rumage through my large case.

As I walked off the plane on one of the legs, I saw one guy carrying a large backpack and wheeling out a suitcase from the plane. No one questioned him and he was in economy class like myself.

I think a person can get away with carry on only. Bring no personal items, buy it all there at the 7-11. Bring 3-4 sets of clothes, let the laundry do them when it becomes dirty.

Ironeagle
Room 204 at Royal Amsterdam did face Fields Avenue. There was a little bit of street noise but I did not find it bothersome. Something that might help with the Royal Amsterdam is to have a CH member map out all the rooms by room category and price.

I did some preliminary mapping of the place. I dont know what rooms are on the 1st floor, not interested in those rooms.

201/301- Room has window that faces interior annex. $27.50/night. Economy deluxe plus. This room is in my picture set. I feel this is the best value as it appeared roomy enough and would be extremely quiet as its window faces the interior. It doesnt come with couches, only two chairs and a small unusable table. There is a desk, however.

202/302- Rooms have windows pointed to streets.
203/303- I believe these are either the 35 or 45
204/304- dollar a night rooms. There will be a slight din of street noise in these rooms.

205/305- Superior Room, $35, slight din of noise. Has two small couches, desk, king sized bed. Window faces exterior.

206- Unknown type, window faces interior
306- Unknown type, window faces exterior
207/307- Unknown type, window faces exterior
208/308- Unknown type, window faces exterior

209/309- Window faces interior. These rooms
210/310- I believe to be jacuzzi rooms at $55
211/311- per night. They appeared to be very
spacious and would be very quiet inside.

4th floor rooms-Appear to be different in size and type of other rooms in hotel.

401-404- Windows face exterior side of building, not street. One of these rooms is pictured in my set. They appear to be either economy deluxe plus or superior rooms (27.50-35 dollar range). There are no couches, just an unusable table set. The tables and chairs are so small that only a very short person could use it effectively.

405/406/407- Unknown type, no windows on the interior.

408- Panorama Suite, $150 a night. Its basically two Jacuzzi rooms combined to form a suite. The entrance appears to be in the stairwell and there are windows facing both the exterior and interior.

I suspect that the economy and economy deluxe rooms are on the 1st floor. There was another thing about the first floor that I forgot to mention. On one night I had witnessed a grumpy Australian guy come to the front desk demanding another room. He and his buddy stated that the fan from the kitchen was too loud, he was a light sleeper, could not sleep and these rooms should never have been used for occupancy in the first place.

I partially agreed with the Australian guy in thought as the first floor is right next to the kitchen. However, these rooms are probably the $16/night specials. I dont know what the guy expected to get with just $16.

Nice refreshing report and I do agree with you about trying to not pay for the high end things that are becoming available in AC to not encourage them to go in that direction. Unfortunately there are a lot of guys who think that staying at the Wild Orchid will somehow give them preferential treatment from the girls...guess what? It doesn't. It's hilarious to see a guy that is paying for a $89 room take a 500 piso Santos girl across the street into his room...whats the point?

I have to disagree with you about the talent at Fields vs.Perimeter bars. That used to be the case but no longer. The biggest difference now is that Real Street is dead and Richards bars (Mistys Neros, BN, BNE, Cambodia) are a shadow of what they once were. Those places were hottie central before but now just average bargirls in a nice setting. It seems as though the talent now in AC isnt concentrated in one area but very spread out and random. You really have to do your hunting to find hotties as each bar has one or two. The only exception is Honeykos which has about 4 or 5 now.

This has to be the first time that I have seen girls faces blurred out from a trip report from Asia. Its common from Brazil but this is a Club Hombre first in Asia. I respect your wishes but I doubt every girl mentioned to you their worry about the internet. For me, I figure if the faces are blacked out or covered..why bother.

(Message edited by blazers on October 24, 2005)

I cant justify throwing down $89 a night for a room when there is green liquid oozing down the street gutters, power lines dangling so low that you can grab em, the stench of sewage every other block, rows of stores made out of what appears to be old storage garages, tin roofed shanties, beggars everywhere, etc.

In fact, I feel guilty having thrown down $35 for a night. Next time, I might either check out the Swiss Chalet ($25/night) or go with either Room#201/301 of the RA at 27.50. When I want a pool and cool restaurant, I will just walk over to the Orchid and act like I am a hotel guest. Bring a gym bag with a towel and such and just steal the Orchid's services.

"In fact, I feel guilty having thrown down $35 for a night. .... When I want a pool and cool restaurant, I will just walk over to the Orchid and act like I am a hotel guest. Bring a gym bag with a towel and such and just steal the Orchid's services."

Even better, stay in a STANDARD room at the Orchid for $25 and you can get all the towels you want, PLUS room service with the Orchid's food, which you said you liked. Stay at least 2 weeks, which you said is ideal, and enjoy a 10% discount on the entire bill to boot!

Or, if in-room internet access is a must, pay the same $25 to stay at Central Park Hotel next door, which does have a small wading pool and, according to all reports, excellent service.

Yours is an excellent trip report, with just the right amount of detail (most punters who actually go to Field Ave probably could not care less about the more intimate details). Also, kudos for honoring your pledge not to show faces on the internet.

Just to be a good sport, I will throw up one without the fuzzy face. She is 23 years old and I did check her ID.

I wont tell you where she works, I'll let you figure it out. She didnt mind having the camcorder going and the lights full-on. This was one crazy chick who will do just about anything.

The only downside was that she had this crazy, annoying hyper personality. Even though the sex was top notch, I had to let her go after a certain amount of time.

Photo: Various Girls 26

Good outline of AC, I wish I had seen it before my first trip in July. Fortunately, MongerX and Porker provided in-person information and guidance. As a result, my first trip was FANTASTIC, so much so that I went back a week later instead of going on to Thailand. Maybe that was the difference between my first experience and yours and Xen's--personal guidance from a fellow CH member. I always try to hook up with CHers, I've yet to meet a really bad apple, and most are great people to hang with while pursuing our hobby.

I agree with Blazers about the photos--why bother with a clothed, blurred photo? If the girl is nude, I can see a rationale. You don't say anything other than that you met them, so where's the embarrassment?

But I disagree with Blazers about the Wild Orchid. I stay there to give MYSELF preferential treatment, could care less about impressing the girls. My money is what does that--and with Porker's input, I don't think I was overpaying ANYBODY. Plus, you don't have to leave the hotel to check out what's available across the street. And since it rained every day I was there the second time, once I decided on the take-out dish, the dash back and forth was short.

Yes, the Wild Orchid is expensive by AC standards. So what? The way I practice my hobby does not include cutting corners on luxury when I'm indulging myself, I do that enough back home. Besides, I really like the pool. Those bubbles in the spa areas can hide a lot of underwater action, too.

I find it weird that a guy would secretly videotape girls, but be shy to submit pics without blurred faces to a website like this that has at least rudimentary security against non-paying/locals viewing. But 'up to you'.

The Bananitas girl had pics posted on AC2 several months back, as well as disclaimers about her being a runner.

Re: patronizing high-end establishments like Wild Orchid, that's entirely up to the individual, and preaching against it is like spitting into the wind. Like telling some japanese/korean guy not to tip 1K piso for short time... Some people like comfort and some people are USED TO paying a lot more. Just imagine what you might be paying in Manila, Bangkok, Hong Kong or Macau.

I feel videotaping the girls is essential. My situation is that I work a stressful job. I need a reminder of my past vacation and switching on the videotape serves as a good escape. I dont plan on sharing the videotapes, they are just for my personal use.

Blurring out the pictures is my personal decision. I can understand your position and I know that my blurred pictures is far from the norm, but this is my trip report and how I feel I should present it. I'm sorry to hear that you feel this is "weird". I was hoping that you would respect the manner in which I presented my report.

Your right, patronizing any establishment is up to the individual and how you spend your own money is your personal decision. However, my point is that paying the highest price will only encourage the hotel and bar owners to raise prices further. It appears they have raised prices a few times already. If everyone is willing to pay Wild Orchid prices then that will only encourage hotel owners to raise existing rates and build more expensive hotels. The rooms that are priced under $30 will disappear.

The Wild Orchid and the Orchid are definately fun places, but I feel both are overpriced when looking at other alternatives. The pools are nice, the food is great, the service is great, etc. However, these are all secondary to why I am in Angeles City. As well, the Hotel Royal Amsterdam has many amenities. I dont feel I have given up much by staying in the $35 room at the RA versus the $50 room at the Orchid or the $89 at the Wild Orchid.

The Bananitas girl didnt run on me...Its not only the money that the girls are impressed by, but its also the attitude and the treatment that you convey upon them. Treat them nice, respect them and they will stay as long as you want.

As I stated in the beginning of the report, we all have different viewpoints and mine is just one of many. My viewpoint is only my subjective opinion and Im just here to discuss a great vacation because I cant discuss it in other social/business circles.

Your remarks seem a little confrontational, but Im not looking for a fight or flame. Lets leave it at that. Have a good day.

Fantastic report, thanks for posting !! My experiences were very similar to yours.

I thought he made it pretty clear why he blurred out the faces, the girls were concered about the internet, he respected their concerns.

The overwelming majority of girls i was with also voiced concerns about pics being posted on the net.

Like you,I also treat the girls like a girlfriend not a ho, and haven`t had a runner in 3 consecutive trips. Alot of that could be just pure luck of the draw.

Nothing wrong with making videos, but why a hidden camera? Seems to me like as much an invasion of privacy as posting relatively tame pics on a fairly secure website.

Re: runners, people can keep telling themselves it's because they're nicer to the girls than others, smell better, etc. if they want, but the bottom line is that some girls just take the money and bolt as soon as they see an opening. It's not a huge problem in AC, IMO, and not a huge deal when it happens, but if you go there often enough and barfine often enough it WILL happen to you. Certain clubs have chronic reputations for girls that don't respect that the barfine is supposed to be for long-time and not 'up to the GIRL'.

Haha. Why hidden? Its because if I told them I was filming, then they may not have agreed to it in the first place. Plus, I get a more natural video and capture the girl's true reactions. If they knew that there was a video, then their reactions may not be so natural.

Sure its a minor invasion of their privacy, but its only for my own personal use. Im not going to throw the videos up on the internet or create video tapes to sell.

Once I develop a comfort level for this website, then I may start posting unblurred pictures in future reports. I just noticed you cant right click the pictures and you were right that only a certain crowd patronizes this website.

Before the trip, I had my doubts about the video camera and was feeling guilty(having spent so much $$$). I just viewed the tapes the other night and the girls look a lot better in action then in those still shots. The dim light in the room, however, makes for lousy video.

I am going to experiment next time and try a few scenarios. Like coming out and telling the girls I want to make a porn-style video so I can use halogen umbrella lighting and get much closer action shots.

Try to shave with the razors you buy in AC and your dead.

":In my opinion, I believe the girls to look the same as the regular Filipinos you are accustomed to seeing in the states. The exception is that these girls tend to be more slender than their American counter-parts."

Are you kidding me?

Good report but half of it must be from a different AC.

IE writes:

":In my opinion, I believe the girls to look the same as the regular Filipinos you are accustomed to seeing in the states. The exception is that these girls tend to be more slender than their American counter-parts."

A007 responds:

Are you kidding me?

You think they get big in Angeles then you ain't been to SD/LA/SF lately!! I'm running into a lot of them that are giaMONGOUS. They are Mexicans from an island. Once they shit a baby or two the carbbomb goes off and they overinflate to superhuman proportions...

E

I have seen more hot P.I chicks in San Diego then I ever have living in Manila.

How many of the P.I. chicks in San Diego will jump into your bed for $21+tip? The Southern California pinays do look good, but the Angeles City ones look better when they are naked and ready to fuck.

I've lived in Southern California and fucked many pinays. Each time, though, it came at a huge price measured in dollars, time and emotions.

I like Angeles because its a no brainer. You go there, throw your money down, do your business and then leave. No emotions, little time spent and the cost is minor in comparison to what it would have cost to date and have a relationship. You essentially fuck and then go back to the real world and continue on with life.

Yeah you can probably fuck for free in southern california, but its purely by random chance. When I go to Angeles, there is no random chance.

Ironeagle; thanks for a thorough post on your recent trip. My buddy Blackjack and I will soon be visiting the PI - your thoughts will help us have a much better time!

To quote myself again:

By Porker on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 08:48 am: Thanks for sharing your experiences and pics.