Day 2

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By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 02:04 am:  Edit

My second day started slow. I had hoped to get an early start, but about of week of burning the midnight oil so I could make the trip left me exhausted. I woke up at bout 11 am. After some coffee, I headed out to exchange some more money.

To my surprise, the cambio that had given me 2.98 R/ $1 yesterday now said the dollar had dropped and it would be 2.90 R/$1 today, or 2.92 R since I was such a good customer. Ouch. I smelled a rat, so I hit about 5 cambios nearby. It must have been true because all quoted between 2.88 R to $2.92. I decided not to change money and see if an ATM rate was better. I talked with the nice receptionista at the Debret about it, and I was told to try Citibank, about 8 blocks away. I went and withdrew 1000R. On my receipt it said 3.12 R/$1. I checked Bloomberg online and it was about 3.02 R/$1. I can only guess that the rate is updated in the afternoon. So I was happy and went back to the hotel to relax a bit. I ran some errands, checked some emails and before I knew it, it was 2pm. Time to hit a Terma, and I was itching to try 4x4.

TERMA 4x4

Traffic was bad into downtown and I didn’t arrive until about 3 pm. This place is a lot bigger than it looks-the hallways remind me of catacombs. I’ll say this, I hope they never have a fire there or a lot of people will die. About 25-30 garotas in the boite and selection was ok, but I was not overly impressed. I talked with a gordita for awhile, then cut her loose and mingled a bit. I picked out a garota with a cute face and we hit it off real well. Her name was Karina, a loira.

Garota:
Karina-Terma 4x4
Looks: 6 (Rio scale).
Looked to be an 8 in the dark boite sitting down, but
once in the room, she was about 15 lbs overweight.
5’5”, 120 lbs, 22 yrs old, not sure of kids, Loira
Session: 9

I chose Karina based on her face as she reminded me of an old girlfriend. I was initially disappointed at her belly and a little fat on her ass, but I was very pleased with the session quality. I opted for a 1 hr room at 160 R. Before the session I made it a condition we DFK for awhile it the boite. We did for about 10 min and I suggested we go upstairs. Once in the room, she allowed a picture of her face and one of her ass but only clothed. We immediately went into DFK which proceeded into a prolonged BBBJ with rimming for about 15 minutes. I then did a little DATY and she was into it. At that point she wanted sexo and we went her on top, doggie, then mish to completion. I had her legs up on my shoulders as I was pounding her and she slipped her hand underneath and was fingering me-God these garotas really go all out. That took me over the edge and I came pretty hard. We still had about 30 minutes left. I rested for 5 min and she then started in with the BBBJ and rimming again. Then she said she didn’t get enough cowgirl so she did this real slow and had great vaginal control squeezing me as she rocked back and forth. I couldn’t come so soon afterwards, and she went back to BBBJ to finally finish on her tits. Overall, she was very passionate all the way. Overall a great session. So far 3 great sessions and 1 pretty great one.

Photos: Karina 012 013

I showered and went back down to the boite. I had planned to leave and hit Terma 65, but I soon realized a problem with 4x4. You want to arrive early to avoid the crowd, but selection might not be that great until 5-6 pm. This was the case now at about 5 pm. Talk about buyers remorse, I noticed about 5 stunners walking around-Maybe not quite as hot as the Centauras garotas, but so close it wouldn’t matter. I sat down and was talking to a loira with no intention of taking her up. She was sitting next to a morena named Bia that had an incredible face. I think she may have the face of a model, but is probably a little too big in the legs and ass for the camera. Anyway, I sweet talked her and she didn’t pressure me at all. I finally decided I had to have her, so we went up for a cabine.

Garota:
Bia-Terma 4x4
Looks: 8 (Rio scale). Face a 9, body a 7.
5’6”, 120 lbs, 20 yrs old, 1 kid
Session: 9.5

My Portuguese has gotten a lot better. I’ve memorized a few key phrases to compliment garotas and flatter them. This worked exceptionally well with Bia. When we got to the cabine, she said I made her feel special and like a woman, and that she wanted me to enjoy fucking her. I said no problem. Only downside was no photos allowed of the face, which is her best feature. As you can see, she didn’t have any problem with photos of the rest of her body. If Karina was passionate, Bia was an animal. She sort of attacked me and went into DFK and a forceful BBBJ. After 10 min of this she asked if I would DATY her. I said of course. She then jumped on my face and went wild. After 5-10 min my face and chin were drenched with her juices. She was really into it and screaming and moaning. She then went cowgirl and missionary and she was definitely a screamer. Since I’d popped twice, it was taking me a while to come. She sensed it and said “I bet you want me from behind, don’t you?” How could you guess? Bia has a typical Brazilian bunda-a bit wide and a little big-perfect for nailing her doggie. She had been into the other positions, but this really set her off. I was pounding her pretty hard and she was thrusting that bunda back meeting every stroke. Finally we both looked up into the mirror and she got this wild smile on her face. That took me over the edge and I exploded and collapsed totally exhausted. We cuddled for about 5 min and the phone rang. I showered and she made me stay at the stairs 10 min so she could run get a pen to write me her number. She begged me to call her over the weekend to get together. We’ll see, but I don’t think so. Too many termas, too little time.

Photos: Bia 014 015 016 017 018 019 020 021 022 023

Back to the boite and it was even worse than before. Even more hotties walking around. Now over 50 garotas with about 10 very attractive ones. Unfortunately also about 75 Brasileros too and you could hardly move. I hung out about 10 min, but I left because I couldn’t go again so soon.

Got the bill-282 R !!!!!. That’s $95 for 3-4 hours in 4x4, 2 high quality sessions, 3 pops, and a couple drinks. GOD I LOVE RIO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I left and walked back to the main drag to find a taxi and found Terma 65. I decided not to try as I was spent. One downside to 4x4 is the traffic in and out of downtown. It took me 20 min or so to find an empty taxi at about 6:30 pm. Rode back into the city and walked along the beach a bit. I decided to try Alcazar restaurant and eat outside. Pretty good pizza-it’s Italian style with no sauce. Pizza, salads and a few drinks were about $8-very reasonable, but it’s not gourmet type food.

After that it was about 10 pm and while looking at the photos of the 4x4 garotas, I got the itch again. It was too early for Help or the Lido clubs, and I didn’t want to stay out all night, so I decided it was time to try MC.

TERMA MONTE CARLO

Took a cab and in 5 minutes I was at MC. Checked in, slipped into the robe and then up to the boite. Probably 20-25 garotas, a few 8’s or 9’s, but not as many garotas as 4x4. This is a smaller club. Still, overall quality was good and I spotted several targets after surveying all the available talent. First was a fairly tall Loira with an ok face and nice body. I introduced myself, but I forget her name-she seemed a bit distant, and I got the feeling she would be a dud. Next was a morena sitting with a friend with a great face and body. I made a mental note to talk to her after I got a drink, but when I walked back someone else had sat down with her. The last was Mayara. She’s been photographed before and I recognized her. I also thought I remembered a so-so review, so I was wary of choosing her. I sat next to her and I practiced my Portuguese. She was really sweet to me once I started with some basic Portuguese and she was showing me how to say words. We laughed some and she started grinding up against me, etc..I think her body was probably the best in MC-one of the best I’ve seen. She also had a lot of youthful energy which I liked, so I relented and went for a cabine.

Garota:
Mayara-Terma Monte Carlo
Looks: 9 (I’m afraid to give a 10 because everywhere I look I
seem to see a better garota.) She has a natural look I really like.
5’0”, 95 lbs, 20 yrs old, morena, a spinner.
Session: 9

In the cabine, she got affectionate. She thanked me for speaking to her in Portuguese, or at least trying and said most clients didn’t bother. We started kissing-she doesn’t DFK, but did kiss a lot with open mouth which seemed more sensual after having a tongue shoved down my throat so much. I asked for photos and as you can see she was really into it. I’d never understood how the camera adds weight, but I do now. Mayara is small and a spinner. The photos add weight and help her a bit in my opinion. I thought the photos came out well. That natural look she has drives me crazy, some others may not like it as much. After kissing and necking she started a BBBJ with some ball licking. She had a nice corkscrew technique too. After that cowgirl and mish and I finished in mish really forcefully after about 35 min. I came faster than I thought I would partly because she was so hot and really tight. I would just look down and I couldn’t believe I was fucking this gorgeous young garota. It wasn’t really wild sex, but she was into it and I loved it. After she gave me her number as all have and I left.

Photos: Mayara 024 025 026 027 028 029 030 031 032 033 034 035

Waiting in the boite for Mayara to give me her number, I noticed another garota with an incredible face named Bia. She never got up, but it looked like she might be carrying some fat on her legs and ass. I practiced Portuguese with her for a few minutes and told her she was hot, but I was spent and going home. MC was about to close anyway-it was 12:30am and garotas were leaving. We talked and she told me not to forget her and to find her later and she gave me some great DFK for about 5 minutes before I finally got up and left. Only in Rio.

Total bill- 175 R. That’s about $60 for 2 hrs at the Terma and 40 min with Mayara. What a deal. As I was leaving I talked to the owner who was fluent in English. He asked if I liked the establishment (DUH!) and I said I’d probably be back. He said two other partners run Solarium under the same company. The guy was very nice and professional. Took a taxi and it was back to the Debret by about 1 pm.

Back at the hotel it was about 1am and I was really tired. After 4 pops I didn’t want any more sexo, and my strategy is to go 3-4 pops per day so as to hopefully not hit the wall later. However, to this point I’d been a Terma junkie and I figured I needed to at least go see what the deal was with HELP.

HELP DISCO

Out front of help there were 30 or so garotas, none of which looked very appealing. Cover was 20 R to enter. I paid this and went inside. Help disco is pretty big and there were a couple hundred garotas at least. I can sum up my impression of Help in one word – Unimpressive. About 95% of the garotas are skanks with a few doable ones mixed in. I walked around for about 45 min to survey the scene and I only saw 10-15 fuckable garotas and maybe 5 real hotties. Overall quality is much higher on average at the Termas. They ought to give you a stick to beat the skanks off of you. I don’t mind the garotas flirting in the Termas, but I had several ugly ones grabbing and propositioning me and with the music so loud it was hard to communicate. Finally I just started grabbing their hands and pulling them off and walking away. This type of club really isn’t my favorite kind of scene as you can probably tell.

There were a lot of people dancing, so if you like discos and dancing you might enjoy it. I wouldn’t go there if you’re looking for a stunner. She’ll be hard to find and probably will have 10 guys waiting to take her.

So I left, walked back to the hotel and went to bed.

So far all my sessions have been very high quality and I’m really loving the Termas. I figure I will need to try a Lido bar eventually, but I’m almost afraid too because the Termas are pretty much a sure thing, and if you did get a dud, it’s not a very expensive mistake. After 2 days, I’d rate the Termas I’ve been to as follows:

  1. Centaurus
  2. 4x4
  3. Solarium
  4. Monte Carlo

That’s if price is no object. If I was to rate best garota value Termas, it would be like this:

  1. 4x4
  2. Solarium
  3. Monte Carlo
  4. Centaurus

I agree with most posters on the board that Centaurus probably has a higher percentage of stunners, but other Termas, especially 4x4, have almost as many and really more variety. You don’t really have to settle at any Terma, so I would say Centaurus is overpriced based on the competition and would recommend the others. That’s not to say I won’t go back, because I might.

I’ll try to keep things updated daily-no promises.

By Bluestraveller on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 09:17 am:  Edit

Hombrecito,

One of the advantages of Help, Meia Pataca, or a Lido bar, is that if you like the girl, then she can hang out with you for more time.

Rio is a truly beautiful city and you should at least visit Sugar Loaf (10 min cab ride) and perhaps Christo. The views are spectacular, and it helps to have a nice chica on your arm.

You're reporting is great and I am really looking forward to the next report.

BT

By Athos on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:12 am:  Edit

HC1
Another amazing daily report, thanks.
You're my new hero.

By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:39 am:  Edit

BT,

I visited Sugarloaf yesterday and I hoped to do Corcovado today, but its cloudy and I´m heading downtown for my afternoon terma run. I got about 50 photos of Sugarloaf, but I figured I would only post garotas. I hear Corcovado is even better and I´m going to try to get there early tomorrow.

By Dcool1 on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 12:32 pm:  Edit

Hombrecito,
Great report! When I read you, all my good memories of Rio come back to life.
I am a real fan of 4X4. I like the local flavor of this terma. It is definitly more carioca style. And the show!!!! the show they have at around 6/7pm!!! it is a must! last time I was there, the show ended with 8 gorgeous models on stage for a lesbian party... Absolutly astonishing!
Ooooh Hombrecito, your report is a torture for those who are at home...
Dcool

By Sakebomb on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 01:49 pm:  Edit

Hombrecito,

I respect your style as you don't throw around 9s and 10s ratings for garotas when they're close to extinct during this low season. You seemed to enjoy the company of the best available or flashback women every terma had to offer. So far we have crossed on 4 garotas from MC, 4x4, and L'uomo.

When I read your assessment regard Help, I thought I was reading my own post which I had on a week ago. I can't wait to read your thoughts regard Barbarela garotas. I personally enjoyed La Cicci as it provided a place to kick back and relax with a compassionate garota rather than being in the husstling atmostphere with money hungered or skanky-loooking garotas at Help and Barba. There wasn't any pressure to bust a nut at night in Rio since we all have busted most of our nuts at the terma(s) in the daytime.

I commend your style and look forward to reading your first terma threesome experience. Keep on trucking...Ahh, you mentioned 160R for 1hr at 4x4, I was there a week before you and my charges were all 150R for 1hr suite. Did they raise their prices to catch up with other termas? Still a bargain for beauty.

By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 03:55 pm:  Edit

Sake,

Read the next report. I did a Barbarella garota because I wanted one of the garotas in BT´s videos if I could find her. I did find her and the session was great, but I WAY overpaid. Other than her and 3-4 other garotas, Barbarella was not impressive at all and I saw a lot of talent that would have a hard time making it a terma.

I haven´t been to Ciccoilina yet, but I plan to tonight.

HC1

By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 04:01 pm:  Edit

Sake,

Re the 160 R for 4x4 I really don´t remember. That´s why I´ve been doing daily reports because there are so many termas, garotas, etc.. I was at 4x4 again yesterday, but I still don´t remember. I´ll be there tomorrow or Friday and be sure to check on the price. I´m pretty sure I was charged what was on the sheet. My first day I got a suite and a cabine and that was what I was charged or what I remember was charged.

HC1

By Athos on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 06:02 pm:  Edit

If you arrive before a certain time at 4X4, you get some type of discount.

By Mitchc on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 07:03 pm:  Edit

If you session before 5:00, your entry fee is gratis.

By Athos on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 11:51 pm:  Edit

HC1
After looking at photos, I recognized Karina and remembered kissing her inside 4X4 because of her beautiful face but was shocked to see her belly upon closeup, so had to back off from her. She did give good vibes so not surprised to hear she was good in bed.
I really enjoy reading your writing, and descriptions of garotas are extremely accurate.
You may want to consider a return trip in nov/dec time frame to enjoy a large selection at Barbarella and several hotties at Help, besides terma hopping.

By Ee2002 on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:41 am:  Edit

Hombrecito 1
Great report.I can,t wait to go back to Rio.As for Help I can agree it wasn't as good as people made it out to be but that was during the low season (June).I did pull two all nighters that were 8's and one 2hr garota in three nights.Looking forward to the high season.

happy hunting..

By Hombrecito1 on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 06:24 am:  Edit

Athos,

True about Karina. I made a rookie mistake of not having her stand up and checking front and back. One downside to 4x4 is the lighting is dim in the boite and I said ok before I'd checked out the goods. Great session, but I'd pick a hardbody over her next time.

HC1

By d'Artagnan on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:12 pm:  Edit

Once you've hit a good terma, I think your scale already may get thrown off, so it may be harder to assess Help. Based on all I've read on Help and my own experience, I would say that selection at Help is much less consistent in quality than termas and such. When I was at there I had little difficulty finding some nice girls. Eli and Indian from my Brazil report seemed to be popular, they were both Help girls.

By Blazers on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 06:22 pm:  Edit

Mayara....WOW. She ranks in the top 5 best looking girls ever posted on this site. I see a lot of Brazilian chica photos but this is the first one that really caught my attention. Totally perfect.

By Mitchc on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 06:33 pm:  Edit

Yeah, that's top shelf.

By Hombrecito1 on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 03:33 pm:  Edit

Blazers,

I agree the photos of her ass are great, but you'd be surprised how small she is in person. The shots make her look bigger than she actually is. I've got a photo of her on my lap and I look like a beached whale.

After Mayara I began to realize how being 5-10 lbs overweight or even having wide hips ruins a photo. I started to choose thin garotas who I knew would photograph well which was good and bad I suppose. I ended up turning down a ton of hot garotas with great attidudes because they were slightly overweight.

HC1

By Sbronx77 on Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 04:56 pm:  Edit

HC1: I'm re-reading your reports and I noticed you mentioned talking to the garotas in Portuguese. What key phrases did you use to flatter and compliment them? It might come in handy for me.

By Hombrecito1 on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 02:54 am:  Edit

Sbronkx77,

You have to not only know what to tell a garota, but how to pronounce it correctly. You can't also just say "You are beautiful" (Voce e hermosa) over and over, you have to work it into a converstation as you would with any woman. There isn't one or a few "key phrases", but the word for beautiful, (hermosa, linda, divinha) is pretty much the same as Spanish or is understood well by the garotas.

My usual questions with garotas went like this. Age? If over 22, then say they looked younger. (Cuantos anos voce ten? 28 anhos-Nao Posible!)Kids? if they had kids say it didn't show. (Voce ten Filhos? Dois filhos-Nao Posible) Boyfriend? Most would deny a boyfriend, but actually have one. When they say they don't, say that it isn't possible for a woman so beautiful to not have a man waiting and you don't believe it. (Una muljer como voce no ten namorado. Nao lo creo) Always be romantic and playful and the garotas love it. If the garotas didn't warm up to me, then I would usually drop them.

It's kind of hard for me to translate that whole thing. If you have a specific word or phrase, why don't you Hombremail me and I'll try to answer it or find out if I don't know. Remember if you don't pronounce Portuguese correctly they will not understand you even if you have every word right. I didn't come close to speaking fluent Portugeuse, but I learned how to say a few things with proper pronunciation and a minimal accent and I was understood easily. (Good example-The word for twenty in Portuguese for 20 is "vinte" similar to "veinte" in Spanish. When I said "veinte" (pronounced BAIN tay) to the garotas, I was not understood because in Portuguese, "vinte" is pronounced (VEEN Chee). And this comes up a lot because most the garotas are 20ish.)

HC1

By Sbronx77 on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 10:55 am:  Edit

HC1, Thanks, I get the drift. I'll get my rap down to a few phrases, before I go upstairs. I'll be as charming as ever, and let the chips fall where they may! Maybe, I'll teach the garotas some English as well. It ought to be interesting and FUN. [SMILES]

By Bluestraveller on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 04:26 pm:  Edit

I believe it was Bwana Dik that had a phrasebook called Hot International. Basically, it is a guide in 7 languages of pronunciation of commonly used words to meet, pickup, and have sex with women. You can learn a lot of words and also it is a lot of fun to show the garotas because they can see how to speak the English as well.

BT

By Sbronx77 on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 06:05 pm:  Edit

BT:Where can I get this book??

By Bluestraveller on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:41 pm:  Edit

Here are some google links that I found. I think that Bwana said you could buy it from the UK Amazon.

http://singletravel.com/hot/international/

Here's the Amazon link.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1885948174/absolutsearch05/104-2255378-6922335

Here's a little mini review

At last, a phrasebook that can really get you places! Whether you're an American in Madrid, an Italian in Rio or a German in Prague, this pocket-size tool will take you from "Want a drink?" to "Get lost!" From "Kiss me" to "Take your clothes off." From "I love you" to "I never want to see you again." It's got everything you need to pick up girls, do the wild thing, or fall in love--in French, Spanish, Italian, German, Portuguese, Czech and English for foreigners. Also features easy pronunciation guides, a funky dictionary, and detailed coverage of safer sex, as well as a unique "zebra-stripe" format that lets you and your new friend(s) hop from one language to any other--instantly! Fun, (very) explicit and indispensable, Hot! International is your new passport to romance.

Hope this helps.

BT

By Bonvvnt on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:49 pm:  Edit

Then again, if you want to have normal conversations (and romantic ones as well!) look for a copy of Rick Steve's Latin American Spanish and Portuguese. Pocket sized, covers both languages well for use in and outside the bedroom. It includes phonetic pronunciation too.

By Athos on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:52 pm:  Edit

Regarding Portuguese accent, they speak Brazilian Potuguese in Rio as Portuguese spoken in Portugal is closer to Spanish. Tch and Dje sounds are typical Brazileiro.

By Ee2002 on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 02:56 am:  Edit

HC1 or anyone who might know..

Sorry to drift into a language topic,but in brazilian portuguese did you find that they pronounced "o" at the end of a word like oh. Most of the language books pronounce it like oo as in boot. Even though when I went to Rio I did not know anything about portuguese, but I dont recall hearing anyone using the "oo" sound ending.

By Hombrecito1 on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 03:37 am:  Edit

I don't know what books you mean. It can depend on the letters before the final "o" maybe. I know "Eu Falo" or "Eu Tenho" uses the "oh" pronuciation you described. Come to think of it Rio, Belo, and a ton of other words do too. I can't think of any with the "oo" pronuciation, but there could be some. Any specific words you know of that had the "oo" pronuciation for "o" at the end of a word?

HC1

By Stayawayjoe on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 07:41 am:  Edit

Most of the words I heard in Rio had the "oo" pronunciation including falo and tenho. Sometimes the cariocas speak quickly and we have the tendency to want to hear the "oh" sound because it's more logical to our ears when actually the cariocas are saying the "oo" sound at the end of the words.

By Sbronx77 on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 09:14 am:  Edit

BT: The book, "Hot! International" is no longer in print. Very hard to get. Any suggestions? Both websites given produce no results.

By Athos on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 10:21 am:  Edit

Sbronx77
Go to Barnes And Noble or other site and look for mini book on Portuguese. Under $10 and more than enough Portuguese to get by.
For short sentences, you can also use the translation site. If you still need help for a few sentences, why don't you post them under Portuguese thread and some hombres will be happy to provide translation.
Why do you want to tell a garota she is beautiful? She already knows it. Tell her she is smart to score a point with her.
Athos

By Hombrecito1 on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 02:29 pm:  Edit

Athos,

Disagree on telling women they are beautiful. I always tell them this. It can't hurt to say they're smart too.

The reason why is many beautiful women are often insecure about their looks and don't really believe they are hot. This is especially true in Rio where all the women are hot and there's a lot of competition. I was talking to a doorman at 4x4 and he told me something interesting about this. He said Americans don't know how to treat beautiful women-that we fall all over them and shower them with praise and gifts. Before long the hot women here are stuck up bitches. This guy told me they don't do this in Rio. He said the guys in Rio go out of their way NOT to compliment or gawk over hot garotas. In fact, he said if there's a hot garoata with a so-so garota, the Brazilian man will purposefully go up and talk to the ugly one. This is ingenious and confuses the hot garota-she thinks she looks good, but men don't respond. Have any other guys noticed how Brazilian guys at Termas tend to be with a middle to lower tier garotas? Maybe this is why. I think this may be why so many hot Terma garotas are geininely nice and not bitches.

Back to telling the women they're beautiful, I think most of the garotas I was with appreciated because they don't hear it as much as you think.

HC1

By Cortogringo on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 02:59 pm:  Edit

Whatever their motivation maybe, bless the Brazilian guys for leaving the hot garotas to us Americans.

By Sbronx77 on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 06:15 pm:  Edit

HC1: That's a good point. I just plan on being as charming as ever. It won't hurt to tell a garota she's beautiful. Compared to the American women, SHE IS!!! BTW, how is security at the Debret? [e.i. safebox, etc] I'm concerned about my valuables. I'm not a flashy guy, but I would like to return to the states with what I brought with me!!

By Bluestraveller on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 07:34 pm:  Edit

Guys,

We're overanalyzing this thing. I think the best rule of thumb is just be yourself. If you like to sweet talk, then go ahead and do so. If you just want to make out, then do that. There is no right or wrong answer.

I brought up the book Hot International, not because it teaches a certain style, but because it is a very amusing book that you can have fun with the garotas.

BT

By Ee2002 on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 12:06 am:  Edit

HC1

I have checked different portuguese books and in all of them the o ending is pronounced oo. It doesnt sound right to me thats why Im asking, before I go and start talking to these garotas when I make my next trip........thanks

Example:obigad-oo or fa-loo,etc....

By Athos on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 12:23 am:  Edit

Ee2002
Well it seems simple but not so fast.
Eu falo - present tense o is fairly short, not long
but
voce falo - past tense o is long to differentiate between present and past.

Now, watch out for vowels combo:
ao this is nasal as in nao, sao, Sao Paulo
oi is promounced like in English boy
ou is pronounced like o
and oe well good luck in pronouncing that nasal sound.

By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 01:53 am:  Edit

Ee2002,

It's VERY hard to explain and give examples of pronunciation in this format. My advice is to write down the main things you want to say and find a garota or two at Meia Pataca to practice with. Say everything to them and have them repeat it over and over and eventually you'll get it. Like the ao nasal sound in Athos's example-that's pretty rare in English, just have a garota say "nao" a few times and practice with her.

By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 01:58 am:  Edit

Sbonx77,

The rooms at the Debret has a small safe. Not huge, but big enough for wallet, cash, camera, V. Be sure to request the key at the front desk.

By Athos on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 11:12 am:  Edit

One can also listen to Brazilian radio to pick up some Portuguese. I am listening to radio ElDorado 92.9 FM from SP. Cool american music with Brazileiro DJ.

By Hombrecito1 on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:24 pm:  Edit

That's a good idea Athos-I might try some stations on the web. I'm losing all my Portuguese because I've had no exposure for a month.

HC1

By Sbronx77 on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 08:46 pm:  Edit

HC1: Man, don't lose the language!! You need to go back to Rio soon!


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