Subtopic	Posts		Updated
	Archive 01	50		2006/03/13, 08:57 pm
	Archive 02	50		2006/03/13, 08:58 pm

I just want to say that this started out as journal notes, but then it turned into a trip report. This wasn’t typed all at once, but at several times throughout the day after different experiences.



Day One

I arrive in Medellin on time at 9pm. I am staying at the Mansion. It was a good thing I paid them to have someone pick me up at the airport, because if you were to grab a taxi when you arrived and gave the driver the address, it would be that there is no way he would be able to find the Mansion.

An acquaintance of mine has stayed here several times in the past and he loves it. I was on the fence between Medellin and Buenos Aires (two places I have never been to). And he highly suggested staying at the Mansion. My commute was going to be about 11 hours door to door (had to take 3 flights), so I wanted to hit the ground running with a sure thing. I explained my situation and he recommended a girl for me to have the Mansion pick me up at the airport. It never happened and they dropped the ball.

If you decide to come here and you’re a Cheap Charlie, make sure to have the Mansion email you directions in Spanish so that you can print them out and give them to a driver so that you can get to your destination. You will only save about $5US doing this, so like I said I was glad to have set it up through the Mansion.

After dropping my bags off, Robert was kind enough to get me out on the town. He got me to an ATM and we headed over to Fase Dos. He introduced me to a few guys, and made sure I was in good hands.

Fase Dos is a “strip bar”, where you can do girls onsite or pull them out and take them back to your place. It’s not what I had expected. It’s not like the states where you have 3-7 girls dancing at one time on different stages and there are various girls giving table dances at one time; In the states you can see girls dancing with their clothes off or with a bikini on so you can at least judge their bodies. It’s not like Thailand where there are 10-30 girls dancing at one time and you can see what they look like. And it’s not like Brasil where even if the girl has here clothes on (lets say in Help or Barbarella) she is shaking her body and you get a feel for how that thing can move in bed.

Fase Dos has one stage. Only one girl dances at a time. They dance for 3 songs and then they come around and ask for tips. I was in there for over an hour, and I only saw three girls dance. You are waiting between 10-15 minutes between dancers. In the meantime, there are girls spread out through the bar sitting down amongst themselves. They are very timid and they will not approach you. It was difficult to gauge what the girls bodies looked like, because all of them are in clothes and most of them were sitting down. There was one that was about an 8 in my book that I stayed away from, because one of the guys I was with said that she was a bad performer. Also, I was told that even though it was a Saturday night, Medellin’s busiest nights are Wednesday-Friday, so that might explain why I was wondering why the place appeared to be “dead”. You might want to consider that when planning your trip. One more note about this place. They were hitting us up for a 3 drink minimum, so it was cheaper for me to buy a pint of rum with a few cokes than to buy 3 rum & cokes. The local rum is great; very smooth. $10,000P to get in and I left $80,000P for my drinks; roughly $36USD.

So I opt to leave this place and go for a ride with Roberto (local recommended taxi driver through mansion). He is going to take me on a tour. We head over to San Diego strip bar. This place has about 45 guys and 10-15 girls. I order us a couple of Corona’s, and I met a beautiful 23 old with a 9 face and 7/8 body. She was trying to give me the hard close, but in my interview, she said that she wouldn’t give me a BBBJ, so that was the deal breaker. She was the only thing in there that I would have touched. Roberto and I finished our beers while we watched two Gorditas come out and do a Lesbian show. It was a comedy. We left and rolled down several streets looking for girls and the only ones that seemed to be attractive looked young. I didn’t want to take a chance on getting caught with a minor in a foreign country so we decided to go to another place called ORIENTALE .

This place is a CASA, a good old fashioned brothel. You walk in and sit down. Then about 10-15 girls come out and introduce themselves to you one at a time. One of them is the often photographed Ana Marie, who is working under the name Andrea. Someone needs to stop feeding her, she’s put on 15 pounds since her last photos were taken (yes, I know that is the pot calling the kettle black). Anyway, I was tired and I wanted to get the monkey off my back so I just settled for a 20 year old with a nice smile. After my last trip, to Thailand, it’s now important me to pick a girl with a nice set of teeth. She was about a 7 overall. She wanted $220,000P and I countered with $170,000P and she agreed for 45 minutes. The session was Blah. Covered BJ; once I get this I’m not really into the session anymore and I just want to take care of my business and get out. Sex was mechanical. She didn’t have lube, she didn’t even know what lube was. I tried using spit and that was even a problem. Overall cost was $75USD. Next time I am in this situation, I will establish a price and then drop the BBBJ question. If it’s happening then I’m all set, if it’s not, then like our NFL players, I’m holding out to try to renegotiate my contract.

Also, I spent about 2 hours with Fernando and he wanted $45,000P, I wound up giving him $50,000; $22USD.

By the way, I am staying in Room # 6 at the mansion. I am paying $81 per night with my Hombre discount. The room is very nice, however there is no AC. It’s not a big deal for me, but if you are a guy who needs it, this place might not be for you.

Being that the information on Medellin is not really developed, I felt that I was at a disadvantage. For instance, I got up an hour ago and went downstairs to get breakfast. The girls offered me some fruit, but I’m not really into that and have no idea where to go to grab something to eat. There is no restaurant section or a section on how to get around. One of the drawbacks I can already see about staying at the Mansion is that you are set back off of the main road and it’s not like Rio or Bangkok where you’re on a main road with typical stores/places to eat. I have no idea where to go or how to get there. The girl that works here doesn’t speak a word of English an my Spanish sucks so getting information ain’t happening. I’m sure I’ll figure something out, but these are just my thoughts right now.

One other thing. When I arrived at the Mansion last night, the place was dead. Not one girl hanging around. I’m not sure what is going on here, but my impressions of this place from reports on this board, and from checking out their website are far off. Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t expecting the Playboy mansion with girls running round in lingerie 24/7, but I thought there would be one or two hanging out especially on a weekend. Also, the pool looks like a comfortable place to take a dip, but the Jacuzzi isn’t working.

Break……..



Day Two

Met a guy naked Kickoxer. Nice guy, he’s been down here a bunch of times and loves it. He helped me out with some questions I had. Showed me a supermarket that’s about a 10 minute walk from the Mansion. Grabbed some water and some cokes for the fridge in my room. Also, I brought liquor from Duty free, because that stuff is actually more expensive down here. We order in some food; bistek, rice and beans with a couple of fried plantains. It costs $10,000P, $4.50 USD. It’s nothing special and pretty bland. I am really missing the Terraco’s Canja soup right now and I wish I was at Carnival. Also, the Mansion has a print out of all the strip clubs and Casa’s with phone numbers and addresses. Ask them for it at the desk.

Break……..

It’s Sunday so there are not many options, so we go to a place called New Life about 1:30pm. This place is another Casa. They march out 7 girls, nothing special, the best ones there were 6’s. The place is only $30,000P ($13.50) for 30 minutes so I wind up settling again with the hopes of getting at least a decent BJ. Failed again, as I’m two for two with a covered BJ. Maybe I am just jaded because my first five mongering trips were to Rio; I’ve been to Thailand and now here. Aside from a cheap piece of ass, I don’t see any place ever being as good for girls than Rio. It must be me, because I don’t see what the big deal is about this place. So far it’s been pretty weak. I’m bored and completely unsatisfied. It’s turning into the classic “you get what you pay for” scenario. Cheap isn’t necessarily better if you’re used to a certain standard of service. If you’re spending less money for services that aren’t satisfying, then it’s just money down the drain.

I get out of New Life and head back to the Mansion for the Sunday BBQ I’ve read about. Hopefully I will finally experience something worth writing about. So far the best thing about being down here is having ESPN Desportes. I love watching soccer games and they show them 75% of the time.

Later….

The hits keep on coming. No BBQ and I haven’t seen one girl walk through the door here. The two guys I met last night checked out this morning, so it’s just me and Kickboxer here. He’s got a girlfriend, so he’s been hanging out with her (at her place) this afternoon ever since we got back from New Life. I’m thinking that because I’m the only guy here they didn’t want to deal with throwing a party/BBQ (whatever you want to call it) for one guest. This sucks because I’m totally out of options. This place is dead quiet. I’m hanging out in my room. The Columbian girl is downstairs talking with the cleaning girl and I haven’t seen Robert all day. It’s Sunday and no other places are open other than New Life; looks like I will have to wait till the strip bars open up. I’m not sure who it was, but they made comments about if you like being spoon fed on these trips, then the Mansion would be a good place for you to stay. I am really not finding it that easy to get a quality piece of ass, and I’m wondering when is going to happened because that’s why I chose coming here. To me, the mansion will get you to where you need to be by giving you the addresses of the clubs, but from there it looks like it’s going to be a lot of work to try and find a winner; just my thoughts. My idea of being spoon fed is jumping in a taxi and going to a Terma, and I am no where near that ballpark.

A few hours later…….

Kickboxer comes back and it’s a good thing, because I can’t get anything here without his help. The kid is an Ace. He speaks fluent Spanish and he’s helping me communicate with the girl they have working here who doesn’t speak a lick of English (yeah, I know, blah blah blah I’m in a foreign country and I should have learned their language. I don’t see it that way, the guys who own this place both speak English and if they want to cater to English speaking clients, then they should not have these barriers). Anyway, we start talking. I say I’m really disappointed about my stay so far and that I’m looking forward to going out to the clubs tonight so I can turn this trip around. He hears my words and his jaw drops; he then tells me that it’s Sunday and that the clubs are closed. He tells me not to worry because they have a book of girls we can call to order in. He’s got the girl who works there calling girls. She calls about 4-5 girls and she can’t get anyone to come over.

This place totally sucks for me right now and just when I’ve completely had enough the first girl walks through the door. It’s Juliana, their current girl of the month (see their website). Her face is about a 7, but her body is like a 100! Holy crap! I ask her how much she wants and she tells me $300,000($133USD ), now all of sudden I’m getting Rio prices with what I would expect to be more shitty performance/service. Actually, that’s even more expensive than Rio, and I say to myself this is bullshit. I don’t even make a counter offer because I’ve had it. I decided to fold my cards. I picked up the phone and changed my ticket home so I can leave tomorrow morning. The way I see it, I can pawn off tomorrow as a sick day and use my vacation time towards a much much much better place in another month or so. I work my ass off so I can take a nice relaxing vacation every 3 or 4 months. Some may say I didn’t give this place a chance. I was only supposed to be here for 7 nights, I gave it two nights; how long should I have waited? I am sure everyone will have their own answers, but for me in my situation, I think two was enough. I chose to come here based off of reviews (on this board) and word of mouth. I found this place to be the complete opposite of what I was told/read. Makes we wonder.


Break……..

I am now back home and I am posting this before I even unpack.

On a final note, I want to warn people about coming here. I do not plan on coming back. I was hoping to talk with Robert about this, but he never came by the mansion on Sunday, so I didn’t get a chance to talk with him about what was not going on vs. what I expected to be going on. I would have also liked to know why it seems that previous people have had the complete opposite experience than the one I had while staying there.

Additionally, PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY AS WARNING, the mansion has signs posted throughout the place stating that you are responsible for bringing certain types of people into the mansion. I don’t want to specifically state what “certain type” they refer to, but it leads me to think of certain activities that are highly illegal in Brasil (it has nothing to do with drugs). The fact that they post this type of sign, in my mind, leads me to believe that they are aware of these activities and they blindly turn their heads. I wanted to ask why the signs were there? If there is a problem with the activity, then why not just post a sign stating that the activity is prohibited.

I got the feeling that if there were a problem, then someone was going to be in BIG trouble. I think that you would be putting yourself at risk by staying here, i.e. While another individual that you had nothing to do with, or even knew, happened to screw up. I am not saying that this would happen, but being a foreigner in another country, who knows how their police would handle you as someone who wasn’t involved in someone else’s screw up, just because you were staying under the same roof.

We are lucky to have countries that are much more opened minded than our own. As long as you obey local laws you will be fine, just don’t go putting yourself in a position where you might be exposed and held responsible for someone else’s actions.

If you are going to go to Medellin, that’s your choice, I thought the place sucked. If you do go, do yourself a favor and stay away from the Mansion. It is bad news. It’s a train wreck waiting to happen.

""" all I can say, dam Colonial upstarts."""

Hey Hunter,

I guess I one of those upstarts, but yours was the best line in this whole thread.

LOL & Thanks,
Relapse

Thanks Relapse

"I called Ana Maria today and put her on weight watchers. She denied that she has turned into a "gordita" but I know otherwise thanks to Smirkers excellent reporting. If anybody else spots her before I get down there, take that candy bar away from her and point her to the excercise bike.

radio "

Radio, you know snickers are only satisfying if you eat her...I meant them.

I personally get a kick out of Greg. He is as rough as a corn cob. When i was there someone brought in a couple of street girls and when he was finished with them, asked them to leave. They did not want to and raised all sorts of hell at 3:30 in the morning, even broke a window. Greg printed out a set of "House Rules" One was make sure and wash the tick infested street girls before bringing them into the house. Now where else can you get comedy like that?
My two trips to the mansion were good, no complaints. YMMV. Now my spanish is getting much better so who knows where I will end up next trip, however even if i don't stay there i will stop by and say G'day wanker to Greg and Hola to Med. Bob. I consider them friends and was treated as such on my trips.
Radio is my hero, because he has the sack to go to places most wouldn't dream of going. I hope he is there my next trip as i want to brave some of those areas with him. One last thought, if coming to MDE bring a little game.
Tipos de buena suerte, Sparky

For those of you who think that greg is not customer minded here is a copy of an e-mail he sent me:


greg smith <@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Hi,

Because we now have our late night maid in our $50.00 per night room we will have you now in room 10 at the $50.00 per night rate.

11 night at $50.00 per night = $550.00
Airport pickup = $ 30.00
Pretty girl, its up to you and the girl ? -------------------
$ 580.00 USD

Less 10% discount for the accomodation.

Regards,

Aussie Greg.


He upgraded me to a much better room and still gave me the CH 10per cent discount. Talk about customer satisfaction.

Also for those of you who think the Mansion is overpriced the cheapest room I found at the intercontiental Hotel was $106.00usd and that did not include breakfast.

Scooby

Will post more when i get home back to the Mansion, stay tunned, should interest DJ y Wallstreet.

The Aussie.

Scooby,
Thats great, if your happy there then stay there...
I am not trying to discourage anyone from staying where they want to stay...

Aussie,
There is not anything you can post that would be of interest to me.
Thanks anyway.

Scooby,

You've never actually been to Colombia, right? This will be your first trip I believe, and I think your first trip anywhere, correct?

My advice to you - do not make assumptions one way or the other as to what something will be. You have no real idea what you will encounter on your first trip. You may have a great time, you might catch food poisoning the first day and spend a week in the bathroom. Most likely, it will be somewhere in between.

My point - you're making posts like you have knowledge of the situation, and you don't. Just chill and have a good time, and like all good travelers, have a backup plan just in case something goes wrong. Most likely nothing will but after 25 countries, all I have to say is your plans will change at some point on your trip.

Catocany

All I was trying to show the others on this thread is that the Mansion has tried to make my trip as pleasent as possible,since it is my first trip out of the country since my Marine days. And it seems like to me you have to put down anyonewho is trying to say anything positive about Greg or The Mansion. Are you one of those guys who is so miserable that he's not happy unless he's trying to put everyone around him down. What is your real agenda here,what happened to you that your such a sour puss. Lighten up dude look for the good in people insetad of going out of you way to put them down.

I just showed the guys a e-mail that was sent and anyone can look up the other info. I just gave everyone proof that greg and the Mansion are not near as bad as you are making them out to be and you can't handle that. You just had to try and put me down well get a life JERK

Scooby

Irishrover,

Did you have another trip to Medellin since you reported on 12/6/05 that Medellin was the worst cities you have ever been to? Here is the link in case you have forgotten what you wrote:

https://www.clubhombre.com/discus/messages/1718/66915.html

What changed that made you change your mind and now you are all for Medellin where in your report you said "I doubt I will be back again"?

PhD

Scooby,

You don't seem to get the point I was making. A lot of us are defending Smirker because we either know Smirker or in the case of Wallstreet and a few others, they know Medellin. You know neither. Bottom line. It's like writing a restaurant review without ever going to the restaurant.

Again, have a good time on your trip, and be sure to post a trip report about it.

Phdmonger

Very good memory. In fact I did post those things about Medellin. Fact is that compared to Rio and Cuba and SEA where I have been spoiled for the past several years, Medellin does not compare.

In fact, my first impression after a week in Medellin was that I did not particularily care for the hobbying in Medellin. But I REALLY liked the town, and thought the Mansion was a first class place. Were it not for my time spent at the Mansion, I would not have enjoyed Medellin half as much. And I found Greg AND Robert to be excellent hosts.

Would I go back? ... I don't know. But if I did, I can promise you that I would want the Sir Francis Drake Suite again if I were there. Nice digs. Also, I would probably endear myself to the local lads who know a lot about the situation, unlike people such as Cat.

Permit me to address another issue. That of our illustrious sourpuss Catacony. Here is a guy who has NEVER been to Medellin who is front and center in this conversation, waiving the "Greg must be an asshole" flag. What drives Cat to this? His role as self-proclaimed moderator of American travel values while abroad i suppose?

Speaking of assholes, aren't opinions like assholes? Everyone has one, and everyone elses' usually stinks? In Cats case, having had the pleasure of meeting Cat, I can honestly tell you that I will NEVER spend time with Cat again. His 'social graces' left me and my guests in a most akward situation as a result of our first and only meeting. But that's only my opinion.

There are some class folks on this board who I have enjoyed meeting and spending time with. Then there are those who after you meet make you want to go home and shower with Ajax & a brillo pad. I stand behind my early proclamation that Greg cannot be faulted for being tired of having a steady flow of whackjobs and perverts through his residence.

Irishrover:

I too can understand at an abstract level how someone would object to a steady flow of whackjobs and perverts. However, I'm not real clear what specific perversions have been observed and are being objected to here. Could you please be more specific so I will know what to look out for when the next time I meet some members of the board.

Irishrover,

I still have no idea who you are, but I guess I'm just an ugly American like the rest.

Laguy

What kind of perversions? For starters, you could begin by rewinding and playing some of those films you shoot. What would your mother think if she saw you like that?? LOL

Actually, I have an agreement with my parents not to show them any of my videos. I think it is best for all concerned.

Catocony says: "A lot of us are defending Smirker because we either know Smirker or in the case of Wallstreet and a few others, they know Medellin. You know neither."

What about me? I don't know smirker, but I do know Wallstreet, I do know Medellin, and I do know the Mansion and Greg and Robert personally.

Smirker: I did not mean to seem like I was ripping on him. I did make fun of his many complaints which seemed trivial to me, but he has a right to post his experience here and if it is negative toward the mansion or medellin, so be it. This board is about honest posts, not bullshit, so more power to him. He did not do his homework on Medellin which would have helped, but he expected some hand holding at the mansion which he did not get for reasons already discussed.

Wallstreet: My great friend who posts great information on Medellin. Time for lunch again, mi amigo. I'll buy.

Aussie Greg: Rough around the edges, but a great guy who loves to show guys the ropes of Medellin. He has great patience, considering all the shit that goes on sometimes at the Mansion. He is a lot of fun to hang with at Mangos, or anywhere. He doesn't take crap from anybody, and I like that. He has always treated me well at the Mansion.

Medellin Bob: Another true great guy who loves to help show guys Medellin. Smart as hell, former cop who takes no crap, but also has a great heart. He and Greg make a good team. He is a true entreprenuer, who has taken this little idea of a B and B for mongers into the next level. He is a smart businessman too, and knows how to operate in the sometimes strange world of Colombia.

Scooby: You are doing your homework and will hit the ground running in Medellin.

Sparky: Other than the fact that we both have a thing for Ana Maria...you are a great guy and I would love to hange with you and show you the Medellin under belly.

radio

Radio,

You're one of the "others" who know Medellin.

Wow - quite a few posts in the last few days. I'm in the Avianca Lounge in Bogota, waiting for the midnight flight to JFK. Spent another GREAT three days in Medellin. Because of the elections, La Ley Seca was in force, meaning no alcohol sales and all the clubs were closed. SOmehow, I had a great time anyway. Damn, that Johnnie Walker Blue tastes great, especially at duty-free prices ($137 the liter).

I read The Aussie's 2 posts mentioning my name. I have no idea what he's talking about re: the Mango's dancers in Florida. I don't know any Mango's dancers and they really don't float my boat. By the way, Mango's ain't what it was a year ago - plenty of empty tables on a Saturday night, and that never used to be the case.

Also, where Greg posts something that will interest me - DJ Anselmo took the words right out of my mouth: there is nothing The Aussie can post that will interest me.

Regarding the Mansion, I wish them all the best - always have, always will. It's not my cup of tea, then again I've never followed the masses.

Scooby:

regarding the great customer service at the Mansion, I noticed in your email they offered a girl to meet you at the airport. Of course, as Greg says in this very thread, if she doesn't show up, tough luck. It's not on them. Your version of customer service and mine are very different. To each his own.

WS

Wallstreet

Who knows how my trip is going to end up. It may be great or like Smikers it may be a flop. Which ever way it is I trully believe that im not always in control unforseen stuff happens ontrips. If the service I get at the Mansion is not up to my satisfaction I have a choice of heading to a medellin hostel I have been in contact with for backup. If the girl does not show up Ill just have to take a cab, But its up to me wether I allow these things to ruin my trip. So far everything is going as I have planned and I don't forsee any problems, but if they happen ill just have to improvise, overcome & adapt Ive done it before I can do it again. Im not going to fly 3300 miles just to turn tail and run because of a few problems.

Semper Fi

Scooby

Scooby we expect a impartial trip report posted on your adventures both good and bad. If you see Radio's girl Ana marie, take away her candy barAbove all else have fun!!!
Sparky

I leave tomorrow evening. Watch for the report as SNIPER INVADES COLOMBIA!

When you meet Greg, be sure to remember to punch him as hard as you can in the stomach, then assume the Rambo position as you laugh and agree to buy each other beers at the pub.

I hear that's the Aussie way of greeting.

Okay sniper, your our man on the ground, we need some good intel.
Sparky

Hombre,

Time to move this to the off topic-flames area?

Sincerly Yours

Sandy who has had enough!

I will tell it like it is if I have a bad time. I might hold it back until I return (as to not insult anyone while I'm still in their house).

I can tell you, so far the Mansions staff have been very communicative about my accomodations and arrival via email. I do feel I should have no problem when I arrive.

I leave in about 10 hours!

Sniper

Save some for me !!! LOL

Scooby

Hey guys I have a question Im leaving from the US are there any inoculations I need before I go to Medellin.

Scooby

Not unless you are planning on going deep into the jungle - then you might want something against malaria.

I suggest waiting until the second trip to go into the jungle.

Testosterone comes to mind.
Sparky

For malaria you need pills starting a week or two before entering the danger zone. However, there is no malaria at 5000 feet of elevation.

I would be sure that my tetanus shot is current. I also got yellow fever, typhoid, and Hepatitis A and B.

I've been in the Jungles of Panama, the beaches in Thailand, and all over South America. I have never had a problem and I never get shots.

You might need shots when you get back! HAHAHA

My insurance company doesn't pay for Malaria medication for prophylactic(preventative)care. They will however treat you after you contract malaria. I guess it's cheaper to treat one person with it rather than preventing 300 from contracting it.

My insurance company doesn't pay for shots, either.

Gee Sniper, are you aware that Hep A and B can be sexually transmitted? Hope that you are still a virgin.

And let's not forget you can get Hep C sexually too...and no vaccine for that baby. And that (as well as Hep B) can cause some serios long term problems w your liver (amongs other increasing your risk for liver cancer)

My primary physician tells me that she is not aware of any instance where Hep C was sexually transmitted. I guess that doesn't mean that it can't happen. Just that it is highly unlikely.

This is straight from the CDC (Center for Desease Control) here is the link:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/c/faq.htm#1b

Hepatitis C is a disease of the liver caused by the hepatitis C virus (HCV). HCV is spread primarily by direct contact with human blood. For example, you may have gotten infected with HCV if:

You ever injected street drugs, as the needles and/or other drug "works" used to prepare or inject the drug(s) may have had someone else's blood that contained HCV on them.

You received blood, blood products, or solid organs from a donor whose blood contained HCV.

You were ever on long-term kidney dialysis as you may have unknowingly shared supplies/equipment that had someone else's blood on them.

you were ever a healthcare worker and had frequent contact with blood on the job, especially accidental needlesticks.

Your mother had hepatitis C at the time she gave birth to you. During the birth her blood may have gotten into your body.

You ever had sex with a person infected with HCV.

You lived with someone who was infected with HCV and shared items such as razors or toothbrushes that might have had his/her blood on them.

Thanks Scooby... I was going to look up a ref for Tom as well.

You may or may not get it while having sex but who wants to run the risk? It is a nasty one if you get it.

Some signs of hep infection (not always present): jaundiced (yellow) skin and sclera (whites of the eyes), hepatomegaly (enlarged liver), and early sign is yellowness under the tongue (see how you manage to check that out in a foreign language).

If you see some of the SGs in TJ have this signs, of course you cannot tell what kind of Hep it is. Get the vaccines and use a condom.

Gents,

This post was so much fun to read and then the health tips?

8 posts about how to avoid catching a disease?

Where is Wallstreet to tell you guys that these posts should be in the "Men's Health" section?
**relax Wallstreet, just ribbing you a bit**

Come on guys, use protection and even then use common sense and look for signs of sickness and if you see any, stay away from it. Plenty of fish in the ocean (and alot better smelling too).


Cubanut

Cubanut,

So the little boy who ran away came back, just like I said he would.

Get the Mansion PR machine going - they need it badly.

Wallstreet,

They don't need me to do any PR the next ten days. Sniper will be filling in nicely I'm sure.

BTW- Has your ex-fiancee returned to P4P at Fase II since you threw her off your money train? Have you gotten engaged to any other whores lately?

You know I tried to be nice but you keep on acting like an asshole and I will NEVER take any shit from ANYONE!

ANYWAY:

Gents,

I am deeply saddened that Smirker was disappointed on his visit to Medellin. I am the the acqaintance he mentions in his third paragragh above that recommended Medellin over Buenos Aires.

Smirker and I met in Rio over a year and a half ago. Last November we saw each other again in Rio and he mentioned that he was going to Thailand soon and then he wanted to try either Colombia or Argentina. I had been to both countries and told him I would be happy to show him Medellin after his return from Thailand and around late March. Smirker contacted me in early January and said he had certain dates in mind 2-24 to 3-4 to go to Buenos Aires. After speaking to him about Colombia again, he decided to give Medellin a try. I asked him if he could wait a few weeks for me to go down with him but he needed to go on those dates. I recommended the Mansion with the thought that he would find it enjoyable and sent him information on Medellin and wished him a Bon Voyage.

We all know what happened next, if not, go back up and read his report.

After reading Smirker's report, I am thinking whether being with me would have changed anything. I don't know if it would have. Smirker is not the first person I know who did not like Medellin. On two separate occasions I took two friends who went down and one really hated it because it was not like Cuba and the other hated it because (like Smirker thought) it was not like Rio.

I will soon be taking yet another friend and fellow monger to Medellin for his first time. We will also be heading to Cartagena and even Bucaramanga for a change of pace. I have told him that it will not be like Cuba, Thailand, Brazil etc.. (he's been to about 25 different countries mongering except Colombia.) He says he fully understands and just wants to check it out for himself (but with me). Three other mates who I took down with me on separate occassions to Medellin are also returning to Colombia to join us. Those three did like Medellin.

As I mentioned above, the Mansion doesn't need me to promote them. They have more than enough satisfied customers for everyone to make up their own mind to try or not.

Soon my buddy Rio Rockstar (AKA DJ A) will be talking about a new pad in Medellin. I'm sure it will be awesome as well.

And please don't forget that if you are fortunate enough to be very short, you can kiss ass and stay at Casa Wallstreet.

good buddy, what got in to your wheaties this am? hope to see you in rio soon.

It really pains me to see two of my friends go at each other like this. This is not healthy for either of you guys. I admit that there have been times, in the moment of passion, when I have thought about chucking it all and marrying one of these babes. I bet this happens to a lot of us mongers. Fortunately for me, common sense returned and I said "what are you thinking?" Fortunately for Wallstreet, he realized before it was too late that it was not a good idea. I don't think we should be ridiculing him for this now. He was honest enough to tell us about it, and that should give him a pass on the ridicule in my book. I know he said a few things to Cubanut also which were not appropriate like calling him a little boy because he got mad once and said he would never come back to Club Hombre. We all knew that was just the heat of the moment and I am glad he came back.

I have no idea what started this little disagreement, and maybe they do not either. Problem is both Cubanut and Wallstreet share one common trait, neither will take any crap and neither will back down. So lets agree to disagree and walk away from this one. I would hate to see this continue. One day the two of you may actually bump into each other down there. I hope I am there to see it so I can buy both a beer and talk about what we all share in common: the love for hot latina pussy. How can you fight when you are talking about that?

radio

Cubanut,

You are the one who said he was through with posting and ran away like a little boy. And now you're back like I said you would be.

When are you and your friends going to be in town? Looking forward to seeing you.

Radioman,

I am in agreement to disagree and will keep my mouth shut about ALL previous discussion (including the above) but this comes under the condition that Wallstreet does the same.

So the ball is now in his court.

As for me, I'm starting right NOW!


Cubanut

Crap I hate when this happens. Why doesn't Hombre add a live chat room onto this board?

Ok Radio here's the dilemma. I was writing up my message and posted it at 8:05am and then saw that Wallstreet posted one 2 miutes before me at 8:03. So now it looks like I posted after reading his which I didn't.

This sucks because I have a response but to do so would break my part of the agreement.

So what do you think? Let it go? Cuz I got a real good comeback. But I'll go on your call.


Cubanut

Ignoring the Cubanut/Wallstreet drama.

One question are Wallstreet and Djanselmo, involved in renting accomodation to foreigners in Medellin, I ask this, because it might have some bearing on this thread.

Cubanut,

If you are really extending an olive branch, I'll accept it. Good luck in all your future endeavors.

Hunter,

I am glad you asked. I have NEVER rented an apartment for profit in Medellin. For the purposes of full disclosure, one (and only one) board member (who also happens to be a huge fan of the Medellin Mansion) stayed at my apartment for a couple of months. He paid half the rent - and he paid it to my ex-fiancee, so in reality, I paid the landlord every month for the apartment and the board member's share went to my ex - which was fine by me.

Point of reference - the board member who stayed at my place is a well-respected member of this board as well as a personal friend of mine. He stayed at my place because it was mutually beneficial to both parties. Profit was never part of the calculation.

I am not getting into the business of renting out apartments/rooms/etc in Medellin. I said it before and I'll say it again - I do not want to make my money $50 at a time.

Rest assured, if any members of this board stay at my apartment, it's because I consider them friends. And I will not accept any money from them. Anyone who knows me knows this is true. I always pick up the check. The only person who beats me to the check (every now and again) is Merlin. Otherwise it's on me.

I go to Medellin every other weekend and I am so happy that I have an apartment set-up just the way I like it - and when I arrive everything is just as I left it. That's worth a lot to me and I'm not going rent out my place to strangers and worry that my place might get trashed or my neighbors pissed off, etc.

There's an old Chinese proverb that says: "Being responsible for someone else's happiness is the surest path to misery". Truer words were never spoken. Throw in my lack of patience and that I don't suffer fools gladly, and it's clear that I don't belong in the service industry. I'll leave that to Greg, Roberto and DJAnselmo. BTW - I know as much about DJ's plans as you do - or less. I wish him luck in his venture as he's a nice guy. If I can help him out I will, as that's my nature.

Hope this clears things up.

Wallstreet, thanks for the post, I know nothing about your accomodation or DJs, apart from what is posted on this board, mostly on this thread.

Hunter

This is great. Both Wallstreet and Cubanut are offering an olive branch and I really hope this is an end to all the hostility and animosity between these two. I hope my post is the last one on this conflict. I am going to start another thread, hopefully in the right section, to explore the possibilities of hooking up with Mango’s dancers, real Medellin models, or model type girls. Hopefully this thread would be informational and not confrontational.

PhD

Wallstreet Says: "If you are really extending an olive branch, I'll accept it. Good luck in all your future endeavors. "

There is a great start, and I believe he is. Thanks for accepting it and I officially declare this feud to be over. I do this gladly, because I am friends with both Cubanut and Wallstreet, like them both a lot, and hate to see things said here that make either one upset. I think the problem here is that these two are just too much a like in some respects. They both have strong opinions, refuse to take crap, refuse to back down, and love hot latina pussy. I really do think if they got to know each other they would be friends.

Move along boys, nothing more to see here. Thanks both of you for doing the right thing!

radio

(Message edited by radioman on March 18, 2006)

& the Hatfields & McCoys unite "YEEHAW"

Gents,

One thing that was totally lost and I didn't give much thought to until now was a statement Smirker made above: "I was on the fence between Medellin and Buenos Aires (two places I have never been to)."

Why do I say his was overlooked? Well, what if Smirker decides to go to Buenos Aires next? Will he find it to be totally unlike Rio?

Buenos Aires? If you want a place that is totally unlike Rio, it is Buenos Aires. I mean I had fun there two years ago but it was work to do so and not cheap. The exception was a SW I picked up in Recoletta that was one of the most beautiful women I saw in Buenos Aires, albeit she had fake tits. Cheap and easy. Just walked up to her and asked.

**NOTE** Smirker is a friend and I am writing this so he does not get disappointed in Argentina.

Smirker used the services of Don who is a guide in Rio. As a guide he provides airport pickup and accomadations, cell phone, friendship etc..
Don's fee per week for guide service is $250usd. Many mongers use Don's services at least for their first trip to Rio as did Smirker. Don's guide service is mainly taking guys to termas and setting up internet girl dates and translating.

In Medellin, Greg and Robert do about the same as Don but at NO extra fee. Of course it helps if they are around. In Smirker's case, Greg was on vacation and Robert was sick. "Shit happens".

I don't know anyone who has used or has written about any "naughty" guide service in Buenos Aires. I don't know if there is one available. Do any of you readers know of one? If so let Smirker know because without one, at least on his first trip to Buenos Aires, it will be another Medellin story.

So Smirker, if you are reading this, I suggest you forget about going to Buenos Aires altogether until you find a reliable source to be your guide.

Cheers,


Cubanut

There is a guy here that belongs to ICG or WSG (whatever it is called these days).

He says that the guy that runs the board, Jackson, has a setup in BA.

Not a hotel situation but a dinner club of some sort. Very posh and very affordable. Something about $40 to $50 for the evening. Includes a lot of drink and food and a constant parade of women at the dinner.

I have never used Don's services, I just don't think I need them for a place as well developed as Rio.

I did want to have a great time in MDE and its not well developed. I think the Mansion is a good start.

I probably would stay here again, not because its such a nice place, I just like hanging out with them.

When I was in BA back a few years ago, it was only a 2 day stopover until I was in Rio. I didn't monger on that leg of the trip.

despite how "developed" rio is, don's services are invaluable on your first trip. i still learn from him and i am on trip 40. smirker [my friend ] just needs to get back to rio

I am in Medellin Now guys and just now getting back to this thread...sorry for the delay i was in Miami for the previous 3 days too. WOW....i just want to make something clear...i am not the one who will be "Owning" the new property that will eventually be available for mongers to stay....i honestly dont find that kind of work amusing...but i am in the loop if you will, with people who are doing it and have seen their vision of the service they want to give to all the people.

Hunter hope this answers your previous statement from above or at least clarify's it some what.

Just so you guys know what it is i will be doing....I will be promoting Electronica Music Events here in Medellin I wanted to try to do something i love and put myself in a position to meet the "Regular Girls" of Medellin...Its alot more appealing to me than running a Monger House.. However i would like to see more options when it comes to having a place to stay that offers you great service. Competition is healthy.

BTW i decided to stay at The Belfort Hotel on this trip and have to say for 140,000 Pesos a night ($70)(2 People) I am totally impressed. Very Nice place, AC (when you need it) High speed Internet (Charge is $6 for 24 Hours) Free Breakfast in the morning...The Breakfast Buffet is reallllly good, alot of choice's of diffrent foods. The Pool area is very nice and the service here is exceptional. The shower and water pressure here is also excellent.

I think when it comes down to it, like i always said, its personal prefrence. if you dig staying at the Mansion, stay there. I liked it when i first stayed there....but things changed there (for me) and i didnt want to be around certain people because thier personality was not to my liking....some people might like people who are verbally abusive and inconsiderate....I dont. I certainly dont like when people threaten me, but hey thats just me.

Find your happiness.

DJ

DJ,

You little motherf**ker. Wait until I get my hands on you - I'll f**kin' . . . oh wait - you said you DIDN'T like when people were verbally abusive and threatening. My bad.

The Belfort is the only upper-end hotel in MDE I haven't stayed at. I think they're associated the the Dann chain - it looks that way in their ads in the in-flight magazines.

Competition is healthy - for the consumer. Looking forward to seeing the development of that venture.

Good luck with the promotion business - smart move. I just can't understand why you wouldn't want to be in a house full of testosterone-filled strangers comparing notes on how long and hard they fucked "fill-in-the-blank". Sounds like a dream job to me

Wallstreet...LOL

Yes this hotel is managed by the Dann Chain....Also thanks for the support....its always nice to have.

DJ: Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I, like you, also dislike verbally abusive, inconsiderate people who threaten me. I also don't like trading my chicas with my 'mates'like baseball cards.

No axe to grind, but hitting MDE in May and NOT staying at the mansion. If Belfort is guest friendly, I'll put it on my list.

Hey Mav.....

Belfort is Guest friendly...just get the 2 person rate as i mentioned above and your good to go.....

Enjoy.

DJ

DJ,

RE: Belfort being Guest friendly.

When you checked in at the two person rate did you do so with or with the other person? If with the other person did you and she/he (a joke). Have to register or give an ID? Also have you inquired or tried or plan to bring anyone else into the room other than the registered other person?

This is important soley because some hotels do require guests to register if staying overnight if they are not previously registered. I know day guests usually do not have to register. I am not against hotels and have stayed in many, usually opting for luxury/presidential suites (the Rio Othon Palace was $900 usd per night for 5 nights) but I prefer apartments or houses.

I am definitely no "Cheap Charlie" but one of my favorite temporary dwellings was a place I stayed at in Cuba which was a very nice coach house for $15 usd a nite that was built next to a chiken coop. The roosters would wake me up early in the am everyday. However, this to me was not a bad thing because the crowing of the cocks would be my cue to roll over and do a little morning "cock-a-doodle-do" with the lovely in bed next to me from the nite before.

I really miss those roosters.


Cubanut

CN asked my follow up questions, as I will not be checking in with a girl but plan on bringing some into the room. If this is frowned upon at Belfort I'll go elsewhere.

Last time I stayed at Meridian in Rio they really gave me a grilling when I tried bringing a garota up to the room- even though I had booked it for two. I hate dealing with the issue and would rather it not come up at all.

Cubanut, You asked:

"When you checked in at the two person rate did you do so with or with the other person? If with the other person did you and she/he (a joke). Have to register or give an ID? Also have you inquired or tried or plan to bring anyone else into the room other than the registered other person? "

I did have the person with me when we checked in.....but when she wasnt here i had some girls come up and visit me with no problem. She did NOT give her ID. As nice as this place is they also seem to be pretty relaxed about things. I will say this though, for those of you who like the street action, as you know some of those girls dont dress that "neat" and nice...they might question or ask about those girls....but i cant be 100% shure because i havent gone that route on this trip. I have basically only used girls that i have had previous contacts with...When i did go to the street girls i always like using the ST hotels anyway. I was never ever really interested in spending all night with street girls....little to hard core for that. Hope this helps.

DJ

Last time down I did two street CAMO girls. I call them that because they were both dressed in camouflage mini-skirts. It was interesting because they were not together. I picked the first one up and walked several blocks toward the Hotel Eros. Just before I got there I see a second camo girl, wearing the same get up. Cut camo mini-skirt, with matching camo tank top...and cute little baseball caps. These girls were HOT. I had no trouble getting them both checked in to Hotel Eros for three hours and proceeded to un-camo them. I wonder if THEY would have had trouble getting into the Hotel Belfort?

radio

ps, they both had camo belly button rings.

Radio, I guess my question is: How did you see them?

Rad Man used his night vision goggles.

radioman, it sounds like you did a 3 some with the camo girls. how do sgs interact with one another on the average? and did it cost you more or less for the 3 some. in tj, they tend to charge you more for that sort of thing...they consider kinky. in other places, you get a break in the cost since they are each doing less work theoretically. thx

Yes, I did a threesome with the camo girls. It is probably the 12th time I have done a threesome with street girls. They are so cheap that it is tempting to take a second girl up, in case the first one turns out to be a dud. It is unusual to find street girls that will go lesbo on each other. The best I have done is a double boca blow job...one on one side, one on the other. I have also made out with one while screwing the other.

I paid each street girl what I would have paid her solo...so about 20,000 pesos which is 9 bucks. I do not do the threesomes in the standard sweaty tiny street girl hotels. I go down the street to Hotel Eros, where I get the suite with a jacuzzi for 3 hours. The girls think this joint is really cool. They call it la hotel elegante. It runs about 37,000 for three hours, a little more for the extra chica. They don't mind staying extra time there, because it is so nice and we have fun. Nothing like having two babes in the jacuzzi sudsing it up, where they both can't keep their hands off mr. winky.

Be careful with two girls from the street. Most of the time I know the girls. Even with the camo girls, where I picked them up on different street corners, I knew both girls and had been up with each one of them...so I trusted them. Just be careful because it is easy for one girl to distract you while the other goes through your pants pockets. With the camo girls, I knew that they were OK.

Street girls are like normal girls, they just like to screw. You get the same attitudes and jealousy of normal girls. One of my street girl favorites is SO jealous that we have this love hate relationship. If I take her up she thinks we are married. If she sees me talking to another girl she breaks up with me....and never wants to see me again. If I take the girl up she wants to kill me and her. Next day, she is back to normal and we start over.

One horrible street girl fight left one of my favorites all scratched up in the face...really horrible finger nail scratches. I felt so sorry for her I gave her 20,000 just for that. I have loved my time on the streets, but it is dangerous at times, and I have seen things that are disturbing. Particularly bothersome are the girls that actually show up with their moms. I have had street girls offer to do me with their moms! I never did, but I thought about it. I also have seen very pregnant street girls...girls I have done before and gotten knocked up. Not MY baby, at least I hope not!

radio

Two words about trusting chicas: don't ever.

Most are very poor. I have had money stolen from me by chicas that I have known for over a year. It's the rule of the papaya.

Now we are pushing the envelope.....Mother/Daughter teams.........

Mother - daughter teams........super

Personally Id rather do identical twins now that wold be a trip

There are Identical twins at Help in Rio, and they are attractive.....FYI