2006/03 Steve_Richards - New Zealand from a Kiwi Point of View

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By Steve_richards on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 01:17 pm:  Edit

I am a born & bred Kiwi
(of European decent (4 or 5 generations ago) – commonly know as a Pakeha (said ‘par-key-har’) by the indigenous peoples of this country (Maori – correctly said may-or-ee or commonly by us white fullas ‘mow-ree’)
This is a collection of my limited experiences with P4P in New Zealand
(North Island only as I have not mongered down in the South Island)
I have not done any international mongering either so I cant personally compare with any other countries, however I have read a lot of reports on this site & think I can give a reasonable comparison of GFE based on everyone else’s reports.
Note
all prices quoted are in NZ dollars
The current exchange rate is $0.65US = $1NZ so 2/3rds of what I quote is what it would cost in US$.
The P4P scene in NZ is 100% legal & is basically of 2 types:

‘Massage Parlours’ (Brothels)
These offer a selection of girls, the number depending of size & time of day etc…
& have rooms on site (‘out the back’) for mongering.
The better establishments have showers & some even spa baths in the room (often at a little more cost for the bath). The grotty places have communal showers (like the old school days), & you need to watch your belongings or some unscrupulous bastard will nick (steal) your stuff!!.

The prices vary from $100 to $150 for ½ hour & $150 to $200 for the hour.
The time keeping is usually very punctual & any time extension (if they let you) you will pay extra for.
Usually the time is set before you start & always money up front to the Desk.
I have never tipped a girl as NZ doesn’t have tipping anywhere for anything.
Our attitude towards tipping (in general) is you are getting paid for the job, do it properly & I wont complain & if you are really good I might/will come back or recommend you to someone else!!
However, if you tip a girl they would be pleasantly surprised & might be better (GFE?) for you NEXT time.

The ‘Parlours’ also offer ‘Escorts’, which are the same girls but on out calls – visits to motels/hotels etc… and at a $20 or so premium to pay the driver etc….

The girls are from 18 yrs to 40+ & are all the same price. Races are many and most
Commonly Pakeha (common NZ euro chick – blond & brunette), Asian (Thai mostly & for the locals to have an exotic flavour!!) the odd Indian & Maori (always part Maori as there are no 100% full bloods left).
Personally for me the 25% Maori & 75% Euro look the best (of any race) – think hot Hawaiian!!
The attractiveness ranges from 4 to 8 with the rare 9. The grotty places have some real dogs!!

The GFE is usually low though
They never kiss
never let you go down (do oral) on them
always use condoms for BJ & sex (if they don’t they will be old, disease ridden, junkie, slappers!!)
and some (about ¼ to 1/3) don’t even let you touch their pussy with your hand or fingers. The worst I had let me touch her breasts briefly then jumped on & that was it!!

The up side is you get to see what you are buying.
This is done either by the girls doing a ‘walk by’ where they walk past & introduce themselves (with their alias working name) & you tell the desk who you want, pay etc…
OR (in the better places) they have a lounge bar (where you can buy drinks at marked up prices - about $5 for a beer or $3 for a juice) & you mingle with the girls. Depending on the Monger to Girl ratio they will come up to you & be friendly/flirty or if they are busy they expect you to introduce yourself to them.
I prefer these types of places as I always ask what they will let me do to them & what they will do to me & ask about tattoos, piercings, shaved pussies etc…(depending on your preference obviously).
My experience is the more tattoos or piercings they have the ‘harder’ they are, ‘harder’ meaning less GFE & more mechanical i.e. common slapper ho bitch!!

I have found that the Day Shift girls are friendlier & better GFE (what little you get!!) as the number of mongers is less. The nightshift (varies as to when they start usually between 8 & 10 pm) girls are OK at the beginning of shift but at 11 pm onwards the mongers are many & the girls tend to be lazy & business like.

‘Private Escorts’
These are 1 to 3 girls working privately out of a motel or house
They advertise in the local newspapers or a nationwide weekly rag called the ‘the Truth’ (which is actually an oxymoron as the articles are full of utter lies but has lots of pages of girls!!)
The local metro papers have an ‘Adult Entertainment’ or ‘Personal’ section in the classifieds, & give a basic description (age, race, hair colour & size), price & mobile phone number.
See the Herald for Auckland, Dominion for Wellington, Waikato Times for Hamilton etc…..
The prices vary from $80 to $120 for ½ hour & $120 to $150 for the hour.
The time keeping is also usually punctual & any extension you will probably pay for.
Most times the time is set before you start & usually pay money up front to the girl.
Again I have never tipped.

The girls are basically the same as parlours but I tend to think they are maybe a notch or two better. The attractiveness ranges from 6 to 9 with the rare 10. (for me a very hot Maori 21 yr. old from Rotorua who kissed, hugged & did good GFE)
The GFE is usually a lot better but not high on the international scale – they still rarely kiss (only one was the Rotorua 10), always use condoms for BJ & sex but only a few don’t let you touch their pussy. I now always ask first so I don’t get short changed.
My experience is the Maori girls give better GFE by a significant amount & they tend to be genuinely horny & interested, (all I’ve had genuinely came when I fucked them!!)
– but it really depends on the girl at the time but don’t expect much from any & you wont be disappointed!!
The best place to find Maori girls is Auckland (sometimes part Polynesian which are very similar) or Rotorua
(as you have probably guessed these are my girls of choice & for good reason)

The down side is you don’t get to see what you are buying.
The way around this is to ask for an accurate description over the phone when you are shopping around/booking & also ask what they will let me do to them & what they will do to me & ask about tattoos, piercings, shaved pussies etc…

As a note, they always knock 5-10 years off their age, add 1 to their cup size & 1 to 2 sizes off their clothes.
NZ cup sizing is: A (nothing there) B (small) DD or E usually means large & saggy – usually with a large girl to boot!!
NZ Dress size (actual) is: 6-8 very skinny (12 yr. old girl stuff = skin & bones) 10 = slim (the perfect 10?) 12 average/normal woman, 14 curvy with a little padding, 16 large (fat).
So a size 12-14 girl is really a 14-16 – so quite large etc… I tend to look for the size 10-12 as they are real woman with curves etc.. (my personal taste – curves, ass & tits) most guys prefer them to be slim so go for a 8-10 if you want that but they tend to have small tits. If they say they are size 6-8 they will be skinny!!

If she sounds OK, you have to make a booking (can be virtually immediately if they are not busy) & they will give you an address to go to.
They will meet you at the door & let you in etc… If they are not your type or have over exaggerated their appearance just (politely) say no thanks and walk off….!!
If you like what you see, the norm is to go into a room, you may be asked to shower first (I always shower before I get there so I don’t have to – as sometimes the shower time is counted), & then get into it.

Two or More Girls at Once
If you want this extra, you will have to check that the girls are OK to do it (before you pay or book!!) & let them know if you want them to be bi or if you are just greedy!!
You will pay both girls the same price as above and sometimes an added fee of about $40 (or more if you want them to be bi towards each other).
They will let you fuck one, then the other, & then back, but usually make you change condoms between switching. Some will make you keep track of which hand is on which girl so they don’t get their juices mixed & therefore tend to be separate from each other & it becomes 2 x 1-1 rather than a 3sum.

You & Your Friend (or Partner) with a Girl at the Same Time
If you want this, you will have to check that the girl is OK with it. You will EACH pay the girls the same price as above and sometimes an added fee of about $40.
She will let you fuck her, then your mate & then back etc….

Long Time
I have not had any long timers as they usually don’t offer it, but late in the night (more like very early in the morning - 2-4 am) at the end of their shift they may consider it.
Prices would be more the earlier it is – it would be based on probable number of clients they could get – you would pay for them all!! i.e. at 11 pm she would probably get 2 – 3 more clients so expect to pay 3 – 4 times more than for ST!! I would expect them to leave early in the morning – so more medium time than long time!!

Multiple Pops
I have not done this either – two pops in a n hour for me is hard work!!
Some will not allow it, you pay for pop & after that you usually get a massage till the time is up, some will get dressed & expect you to leave – don’t!! tell them you paid for the time & make them work for it. These are the NIL GFE’s of course!!
I tend to delay popping as much as possible, this pisses some off as they try to get me off as vigorously/quickly as they can so they can go get another client!!! Or at least minimise the fucking time. These also are the NIL GFE’s of course!!

Parlours:
Auckland:
Femme Fatale: definitely #1 , classy, lounge bar, nice rooms & good looking, numerous & friendly girls (day shift)
Pelican Club: I have only been there at 11 pm at night (rush hour) & there were 5 guys to every 1 girl – sucked, others say it is OK but I cant confer!! Didn’t P4P so don’t know what rooms are like.
Others – average not memorable!!
Taupo:
Bobby’s – Only one in town, a strip club where you get to have one of the strippers (when she’s not stripping) for ¾ hour. Average girls, get to see before you buy though!!
Palmerston North:
Candy’s is best – classy, lounge bar, nice rooms & good looking, numerous & friendly girls (early night shift)
Roxanne’s is next (& next door too!!) – lounge bar, nice rooms & average looking & friendly girls (early night shift) – owned by same person as Candy’s so can pick one girl from each & have both at once (Roxanne’s has nice spa bath room).
Lounge Bar - sucks – full of dogs & communal showers!! Didn’t P4P so don’t know what rooms are like.
Wellington: I’ve been to most, all did the ‘walk by’ intro thing so I didn’t P4P so don’t know what rooms are like. Girls OK to good looking.

In Summary:
If you want relatively cheap short time fucking, with a good choice of looks/races, then New Zealand is a good place to P4P.
Probably one of the most inexpensive place to fuck hot looking euro blondes for 1 hour at a time!!.
The attractiveness of the girls is quite good to excellent with some being technically good at CBJ and most allow lots of positions.
If you want good GFE then you will probably be disappointed unless you strike it lucky like I did with a hot little local girl!!

If you have any comments or questions please post a message or contact me direct.

Cheers

By Murasaki on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 06:13 pm:  Edit

Good summary. I was pleasantly surprised at how many mongering opportunities were available in NZ. I mongered in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch on a trip years ago before this board existed. The best bang for the buck was Christchurch, which is where I did two white chicks, an extreme rarity for me.

By Don Marco on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 06:21 pm:  Edit

Very nice overview, although after reading about CBJs my interest in NZ waned greatly.

By Hunterman on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 10:35 pm:  Edit

Dittos, DM. But it still sounds like an interesting place for me, though, since I have OD'd on the dark-haired, medium-light to dark-skinned girls/garotas recently, and would like to do some blond Euro types for a change.

And I believe in the power of charm and repeat business to take that C off the BJ, plus it sounds like tips might have a lot of power too, as they do in other countries.

Good work, Steve, thanks for the information.

By Don Marco on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 12:18 am:  Edit

hman, go to germany and get your fill of hot euros and BBBJs :-)

By Porker on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 12:33 am:  Edit

Yes, HM, with 'your personal budget', Germany's a no-brainer.

Steve, great report, thanks!

By Steve_richards on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 02:19 am:  Edit

I shall look forward to meeting up with my fellow mongers next time you visit my back yard.
Let me know how the tips &/or repeat business goes with getting the condom off!!

By Godfather on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 09:27 pm:  Edit

Interesting...i didn't even know there was much hobbying going on in New Zealand...i was there in December and seemed really low key. I didn't even try to find anything. I was amazed at how cultural the city and the population there is.

By Steve_richards on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 11:11 pm:  Edit

what city did you visit?
& yes you have to be looking for the places or in the papers
whores are generally very discrete!!

(Message edited by steve_richards on March 05, 2006)

By Robert Johnson on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 11:55 pm:  Edit

Having spent a couple of years in the Christchurch, South Island area several years ago, it was great to "hear" your Kiwi accent! The paucity of hoties at the Uni (Universty) (Lincoln) where I was attending was astonishing and discouraging, but I did manage some dates, non-p4p.

Like you, I thought the Polynesians tended to be better looking than the Pakehas. There was one attractive Euro-descent gal, and a couple from the U.S., where I'm from. Personally, I found the Asians to only be interested in studying (good on them!), but some are attractive. I was also able to get in a date with an attractive Japanese tourist. The Japanese tourists tended to be quite outgoing.

I had a fantastic time tramping (hiking) in Fiordland National Park (in the SW of the S. Island), other parts of the west coast of the S. I., and the 10 day NW Circuit of Stewart Island, off the S. end of the S. Island.

Kiwi-Yankee Dictionary: "grotty" means dirty, grimey.

Thanks for the pronunciation guide to the word "Maori." One of the few times I encountered hostility was when I tried to say that word.

Wasn't prostitution legalized only a few years ago there?

"Ta" (thanks) for the guide to the Long White Cloud!

By Steve_richards on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 11:28 am:  Edit

good to hear you had fun in my back yard.
Yes prostitution was legalised only a few years ago only. The action hasn't changed much, just more adverts!!
I must remember to translate better next time!!

By Steve_richards on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 07:05 pm:  Edit

Update 12/3/06
I visited a couple of parlours in AKL at around 2 - 3 pm on saturday Afternoon, just to check out the scene.
Flora's:
has been refurbished with 4 theme rooms,
rustic cabin, jungle, roman & beach.
Very nice. given a tour of the premises by the only girl on - early 20's, brunette olive complexion (1/4 or 1/8 Maori?) 7/10 $NZ170 for 1 hour cash or $NZ185 by credit card or eftpos.
Femme Fatale: same layout 6 girls on, 2 mongers (+ me) ranging from 20 - 35 5-8. 1 was part maori (often termed as 'exotic'??!!). no asians. 3 blondes
$NZ180 for 1 hour cash ($NZ200 credit card/eftpos)
Spoke to 1 for a while. she would do anything but anal, oral without a condom or sex without a condom. would let me do oral on her (rare)
she was quite old & fugly (fucken ugly) so probably needed to do more to get customers
needless to say i did not P4$P!!
& then ran out of tiome so couldn't scope anymore!!

as a note, now prostitution is legal, any payments for girls that are electronically traceable are about $15 to $20 dearer as the parlour/escort/girl has to declare it & pay tax etc...
so take cash!!

2 US$ = 3 $NZ so multiply all NZ prices by 0.67

By Brazil_Specialist on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:50 am:  Edit

Great! A civilized rich nice country with legal and affordable prostitution. Should I move over to NZ??

Unfortunately, in most first world countries you get the best gf experience from illegal aliens or from mafia dominated girls who are just too scared to treat you bad. The locals tend to be too cold. Seems to be the case in NZ too!??

By Steve_richards on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 04:34 pm:  Edit

the best GF experiences I have had have been from
'escorts' which were freelancers working from a house. only 10-20% though
Parlours (brothels) rate low for GF
It is really up to the girl at the time??!! & how she relates to you....
Has any one had other experiences in the land of the long white cloud?


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