By Wingpin on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 07:45 am: Edit |
While in Rio last week for business, a group of friends from our Brazil office decided to surprise me with a trip to a Rio "Terma." Translated directly "terma" means "spa" but in Rio it means "legal brothel." After asking around, the word on the street seemed to be that the two bast places to go were "Centarus" and "Solarium" with Solarium perhaps being a little better, or at least a better value.
It is both similar to and very different from a SF massage parlor.
When you first go in, the reception room looks a lot like a legit, upscale day-spa, with the exception of a tv monitor which displays alternating pictures of some of the more popular girls in skimpy bikinis and come-hither poses. The girl at the reception desk gives you a key with a number and a wristband, and explains their prices, which, when you factor the exchange rate (a very favorable 3-1 right now) work out to about US$180 for entry, 40 minutes in a room with the girl of your choice, and full service. More if you want more time, more girls, or if you order drinks, less if you do less.
Now here is where it gets a little different.
After you take your key, you go into the changing room where you take off your clothes (keep your underwear on, is my advice) and put them along with your wallet into a locker and put on a nice clean terry cloth robe which is handed to you by one of the young female attendants. Lock your locker, put the key on your wrist, and go on to the bar. I am told there are showers and a sauna room, but I did not see them. You are told not carry any money with you into the spa itself- the key with the number is your "account" and you simply pay the total tab at the desk when you leave. Everything is fixed-price and explained ahead of time, so there is no haggling. Nice.
Upstairs in the bar area, there are about 20 or 30 girls in tiny thong bikinis or hot pants and bikini tops. Some are dancing to the rock music the DJ is playing, others are just standing or sitting around looking sexy and tying to make eye contact. The youngest look about 18 and the oldest ones look like they might be in their mid 30s. Most of them have sweet, thin hardbodies, but a few look like they need to lose about 10 pounds. Their faces range from average to very pretty, but none stand out as complete knockouts. There are also about 8 or 10 other guys in the room as well, most of them have a drink or a cigar in one hand and one of the prettier girls in the other. At one side of the room a DJ sits at the audio console, at the other end is a full-service bar. You can order drinks at the bar or from time to time a waiter makes the rounds. You pay simply by giving your locker key number. The walls, of course, are all mirrors.
My friends try to introduce me to a pretty blonde, but she speaks little English and I speak less Portuguese, so after "what's your name" "you're very pretty" and "this is your first time here?" we don't have a lot to talk about. Of course that doesn't stop her from asking "you want to make love," to which I say not now, maybe later. I need to look around a bit first, after all.
Let me say that I have been to lots of AMPs over the years, but always alone and always with a certain dread of being seen by someone that knows me. It is very strange going to a legal brothel with a group of people that I know from work. Even though most of them are Brazillian and married and think nothing of it, the fourth guy is an American like me and I can tell he is also not exactly sure how to deal. I mean, these guys know I am married, what will they think of me if I go off with a girl? And yet they keep trying to convince me that this is a chance I shouldn't pass up... Then one of our guys dissapears and we assume that he has found his girl for the night, or at least the next 40 minutes. So at least that problem is solved, to some extent- if I go with a girl I won't be the only one.
The next problem is selecting a girl. There is no shortage of pretty ones, but I know that I can only chose one tonight. One advantage to the girls' dress code here is that you can more or less see exactly what you will get before you commit. Should it be the tiny thin one with the only moderately pretty face, or should it be the cute blonde that is just a tiny bit thicker (not fat!) than I like, or should it be the tall brunette with the gorgeous face, or should I just take the girl with the best tits? Decisions, Decisions....
Then I start thinking, what about the STD risk, I mean, this is RIO, after all, and I know that even with a condom you can still get plenty of nasties and my wife is going to want some action the day I get home, no time to allow time for a quick STD screening at Planned Parenthood. (Some bugs can take weeks to test positive, anyway) The girls are all young and healthy looking, but is it worth the risk?
Finally I get up the courage to talk to a girl. It is frustrating because of the language barrier. Most speak about the same amount of English as I speak Portugusese, which is about 2 or 3 phrases, but they are still very friendly and they all ask, "you want to make love?" After talking to a few I pick a small cute blonde and we go downstairs where one of the attendants who speaks English asks me, 40 minutes or one hour? I go with 40 minutes. Then she suggests I use the bathroom but strangely, no shower.
Then she puts me in a small room with bed, similar to but a litle nicer than one of the more upscale AMPs in the states except there is a phone in the corner, presumably for the girl to use if she gets in trouble or for the house to ring us when time is up. All the walls are mirrors, which is a nice touch. I wait about 5 minutes and the girl comes back without the bikini, instead wearing a shear red baby-doll style negligee.
I am not sure if the girl normally gives a massage first, as I am so horny at this point that we go straight to making out. She likes kissing, deep french kissing, which is a nice surprise since I so rarely get that at US AMPs these days. The baby doll comes off, and I start fingering her, which she also seems to like, and she starts to get wet. Then I fall back on the bed and she climbs on top of me and reaches around with her hand on my dick. At first I'm a little feaked out that she's trying to put me inside her without a condom, then I realize that she is doing the exact opposite. Bummer/what a relief. She does offer to give me a a BBBJ, but since I haven't showered since this morning and the weather today has been hot and humid, (I sweat a lot just walking around) I feel very self consious and I decline. (Oh how I wish I had found their showers first!)
The sex itself is good, she is very enthusiastic and offers multiple positions, and lets me alternate between fucking her and using my fingers, which I kind of enjoy. Afterwards, she takes off the condom and throws it away somewhere, I don't even remember if she cleaned me up with a hot towel or not, I think she did, then she lies down on the bed next to me and we just snuggle a kiss a little. She is very affectionate.
Then, an interesting thing happens to me. I start feeling incredibly sad and guitly. I think she picks up on this because she askes me, what are you thinking? So I try, with my very bad Portuguese, to explain that I am married and I feel bad about cheating on my wife, and she exaplins that she used to be married herself. But our language barrier is pretty severe- neither one of us fully understands the other and I don't have all the words in her language to say more about how I feel, so I just say it's better to not think at all right now and we just kiss a little more. Then I start looking at this pretty, 23 year old, blonde Brazillian lying naked next to me and I start to get aroused again, so I try to touch her pussy and see if she will go a second round, but she smiles, makes a noise and pushes my hand away as if to say she's too wiped out to go again right now. Yeah, OK. So I kiss her mouth and her nipples some more and just lie there a while longer, and about the time I start thinking that I better go out and find the other guys, the phone rings to tell us that our time is up.
I put on my robe, again no shower is offered but perhaps they assume I know where to find it. Too bad, because I don't and now I really want one. When I go back to the bar, two of the other guys are there- the one who disappeared first has returned but now another has gone off and we are waiting for him. It is getting late now, about 1:30am, and the place has cleared out. Only a few girls remain and they are all sitting down paying no attention to us. One of the guys says, so, did you enjoy your massage? And I just say "yea, it was nice." I am still feeling guilty and very self consious that I have just cheated on my wife, with a prostitute, with three other guys that I will have to work with in the future knowing all about it. Ugh. At least most of them work in the Brazil office and none of them work in the city I do.
After our fourth man returns, we make our way back to the locker room where we change back into our clothes, hand the robes to the young female locker room attendant, who tells us that tomorrow night is "swingers nite" where couples get in at a discount, and hands us a flyer which I assume tells us the same thing, as it is all in Portuguese.
At the reception desk, I am quitely hoping that the cashier will just hand me a credit card slip to sign but instead says "Smith, $182.50" (Pretend that my last name is Smith) loud enough for everyone in the room to hear. Great, now there is no doubt, based on the menu that was read to us when we entered, exactly which entre I ordered. Then she reads the other guys' totals to them and I am not as completely embarrassed, as at least one other guy ordered the same thing and one of them might have ordered more, although that might just be his drink tab.
On the car ride home, the guys congratulate me for enjoying some of the special pleasures that Rio has to offer and I suggest that the next time they come to the bay area, I will take them to San Francisco and return the favor. I explain that US massage parlors in SF are staffed almost exclusively with asian girls, and this interests them even more as they don't have much of that down in Rio. One of the guys says that he was a little dissapointed that we didn't go to Centarus becasue it is bigger, has prettier girls, and they _don't_ wear bikinis in the bar area. But the second one counters that the prices were much better at Solarium and they agree on that point.
By Bruce2 on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 04:42 pm: Edit |
Yep..it's easy to forget. The pangs of our conscious. Wondering though..after having been to the establishments in the US, did you feel the same? Or was it the presence of your office workers that threw things off a bit?
By Tight_Fit on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 06:06 pm: Edit |
Interesting post. Most of the ones here are from guys who have long since quit worrying about issues of guilt. In fact, most of them seem to not even care about real world relationships with women anymore with little apparent loss. Stay in touch and let us know how your own road to personal satisfaction goes.
By Godfather on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:22 pm: Edit |
Is that price correct? $180 US for 40 minutes with a girl. Doesn't that come out to something like 600 reals right now. That can't be right is it? If so, it doesn't seem like a deal to me.
By Hemp on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:58 am: Edit |
Godfather regarding the prices below are the actual ones as of last week. Keep in mind that the girls around Help and Barbarella will try and get as much as they can but definitely will negotiate. All PRICES ARE IN REAS AND NOT US.
Termas: $40R to $50R entrance fee. You don't have to take a girl to Cabine if you don't want to. Girl for 40 min = $150R 60 min (suite) = $200R. Example = Entrance and 40 min cabine = $200R (about $60US at current exchange rates). Help girls will ask for $100US but you should be able to get for about $150 to $200R for a few hours and $300 for all night. Don't pay more. Many Terma girls will meet you for $250R to $300R for all night after they get off work. Your best bet is hiring Don from Rio Tours and you will save much money because he knows them all and will translate for you. If you need anything else shoot me an email. Hope above helps. Hemp
ps - UWPhoto is one class guy and I understand he hung with you in BA.
By Godfather on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:21 am: Edit |
Hemp,
Thanks alot for your post. I thought that guy was mistaken with his post on the price. Those prices sound much better. Gives me a good guideline of what to spend.
My only worry is that I'm not really attracted to darker girls. Some guy posted the make up of Help is 30% white girls, 30% black girls, and 40% mixed. Many of the pictures posted in the Brazil section, honestly I'm not attracted to so I hope I don't have problems.
What is the best way to "hire" Don? Via email? I emailed him for apartments and a Rhonda emailed me back. I'm assuming she is a co-worker or something.
Yeah, UWPhoto is a class act. We spend a lot of time talking on IM's and phone. Gonna hit BA with him again in November and he is trying to talk me into going yet again in late October/early November..LOL.
Thanks again Hemp
By Hombrecito1 on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:12 am: Edit |
Godfather,
Rhonda is Don's sister.
There are a ton of all shades of women in Rio. There are lots of blond light skinned ones if that's what you like. Also a lot of brunettes with a brownish tan skin. I didn't notice as many black women percentage-wise at the termas as in say San Jose, Costa Rica, where you have a good deal of Dominincans. I did see a couple of gorgeous black garotas at the beach, but I didn't pursue it. I also thought I saw a higher percentage of black garotas at Help.
That's funny about your perception of the Brazil photos. I would say the exact opposite, that the Brazil section photos are overall higher quality than the B.A. ones. I think you, UW Photo, Moondog, d’Artagnan, and Ezy have some great shots, though. The first thing is that there are a lot more Brazil photos, about 1000 vs Argentina at about 275, so I would expect more shots of different types of garotas, some of which you may not like. Specifically, I liked your photos of Sandy, UWphotos of Augustina, and my favorite is Ezy’s photo of Claudia. I didn’t find Gena to be very attractive, though. Overall, there are a lot of photos from Argentina where the chica is 30-35, has fake tits, and maybe some work on the face too, or the face just isn’t that attractive to me. I tend to find younger more natural looking women more attractive, but that goes to each guys personal opinion. Check out recent photos of Ileana by Mitchc, Rebecca, Larissa, and Julia by me, Terma B2 by the Artist, Shayna by Layne, and many others as great examples of natural tits. I did a couple garotas with fake tits, but that seems to be rare in Rio.
My guess is that those who prefer B.A. will pick those photos and those who prefer Rio will pick those as best. I’m probably biased because I’ve only been to Rio, but I hope to get to B.A. soon. It would be interesting to take 10 random guys and show them all the photos of B.A. and Rio and not tell them where the women are from and see which ones most guys preferred.
HC1
By Kidcisco on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:19 pm: Edit |
I have a question I see it on the website ALL the time if guys like WHITE SKIN women, why do they go to a country with mostly BLACK SKIN women LIKE DR OR RIO, WHY NOT GO TO EUROPE ???? were you would easy fine WHITE SKIN women why not RUSSIAN etc.
Just a question?? it just like going to Japan looking for BIG TITS OR BIG ASSES.
KidCisco
By Canonperdido on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:21 pm: Edit |
There are not very many, but there are a few really nice black Domincas in BA. I know. I have seen, and done them there.
By Ee2002 on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:36 pm: Edit |
I have to agree with KidCicso, I have been reading this site for about a month and notice that most of the guys seem to be looking for blonde like White skin females/"playboy"looking females. Now I could be wrong, It just appears that way, like with the criticisms of Help.Everyone always seems to always mentions about there is mostly "dark women" there compared to the termas with more loiras.Now dont get me wrong to each their own, but like KC said why go someplace where there are a lot of dark Latinas as opposed to Europe or somewhere similar.
I personally love latin women and love the different types of chicas that South America has to offer.Hopefully nobody takes offense,it was just something that I also noticed and was wondering about.
By Godfather on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 08:11 pm: Edit |
Hombrecito,
Thanks for your post. Don't get me wrong. There are lots of hotties in the Brazil section. I just meant in the proportion to the number that were posted I'm not attracted to many of them. But on the other hand, many of them are smoking hot. Also, for the record...many of the girls posted in the Buenos Aires section I would NEVER see. In fact, some of them posted I wouldn't see them even if it was free. I'm not lying.
The truth of the matter is everyone has different tastes. Yeah, Sandy and Lisa were definitely hotties and are my "type". I go to BA and plan to go more is for the total package. I'm in love with the city, the people are friendly, great restaurants, good atmosphere, safe. It's the whole package. It has everything I need/want.
Kidcisco, you make an excellent point. That is probably the reason I barely read any of the Rio or Brazil reports and didn't look at many of the photos. Since I'm going in December/January I started to read all the reports. I know there are light skinned girls from Brazil that are gorgeous because I've met some in the States. Most were from Southern Brazil. My preference is lighter skinned, blondes. (I'm not saying it has to be natural).
I've dated mostly blondes in my normal dating life. Some brunettes. My last girlfriend was a latina and it was only then that I discovered just how hot they are in bed. Guys go down to SA because of how hot some of these chicas are in bed. Also, many like me just love the atmosphere down there as opposed to Europe. No offense ever taken.
No one is right or wrong. I'm sure guys that love Rio would hate BA and vice versa. I'm very interested in finding out how I'll like Brazil. I still don't know if the thermas are for me. Sounds like you can't go wrong but I am still a little leary about seeing the girl you lust after go in with some other dude or making out with him. Like I posted somewhere else.. I'm not naive. I know what these girls do for a living. I know they see multiple guys each day...that goes for anywhere in the world. BUT at least I don't have to see the guy she has been with last or making out with in a room. That will be interesting to see how it is.
Thanks for all your posts. I've enjoyed them.
By Hombrecito1 on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 01:59 am: Edit |
Godfather,
You don't have to see the woman you just did with another guy. You can do her and then leave for ANOTHER Terma, or go a club. There are so many options in Rio it will blow your mind.
There are also lots of lighter skinned blondes and brunettes in Rio. You won't be dissapointed I assure you.
HC1
By Godfather on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 05:40 am: Edit |
Hombrecito,
I didn't mean hanging around AFTER you tag a girl. I'm talking about before. I read on this board about guys that saw they keep seeing the girl they want snaked over and over by other guys. I mean, nothing for nothing but I probably couldn't see a girl if I saw her with some slob before I saw her. Nothing against those that do...just a personal thing. (I guess I'm wierd like that... ha, ha).
I'm not worried that I'll find what I'm looking for. In fact, my biggest worry now is not being able to stay longer than the 4 days I had planned. This is gonna be great! I'm ready to go!
By Hombrecito1 on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 02:52 pm: Edit |
Godfather,
It's all in your head man. There are so many garotas, if one is with a guy, pick another. That thought literally never entered my mind and I basically lived in a Terma while in Rio.
Termas might be the greatest mongering invention ever. You're going to die when you see it.
HC1
By Godfather on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 03:10 pm: Edit |
I can't wait. I'm pumped and ready to go. I want to start studying Portuguese, have my ocean front apartment (on Rua Bolivar) rented, have my new digital camera (which is awesome by the way).
Pray for me. My dick might fall off in Rio.....
By Bendejo on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 02:01 pm: Edit |
Hey now this is getting interesting.
When I signed up as a paying member and finally got to see the pix, I couldn't believe how bad looking some of the women were! I had already been to Brazil so I knew there were lots of women who looked better than that, on and off the program. I would see gals working the johns at places like Meia Pataca and most of them I wouldn't even have noticed in a different environment. I saw a woman working Mab's who was well over 200 pounds and was ugly, I mean she looked like an ape. I'm looking at her and thinking 'who the hell would pay for this?' when I realized she was looking back at me as a potential john. The very thought made me lose my appetite. I'm not into the 1-10 system, don't require Playboy types, and have my own peculiar tastes, like attitude more important than looks, 30s and 40s ok, and I don't have set requirements like boob size, flat stomachs such. One of my most memorable sessions was with a gal who (I peeked at her id when checking into the hotel) was 43.
Yes, there are a lot of black whores working the beach joints and Help. But what is the proportion of blacks to whites and hispanics in the termas and nightclubs? Yes, there are a lot of black people in Brazil, but it is no way a predominantly black country. There is a large representation of blacks in the coastal towns clear up to Belem, but once you start moving inland the people look more like the folks in the rest of Latin America.
I really go for Latinas, the olive skin and black hair hits me where it hurts! But when I visit the Rio termas about half the time I end up with a blonde. Also, I've been with some brown babes to discover, from those few triangles of flesh that are protected from the sun by their bikini, that they are really quite white with delicate pink nipples, as opposed to the rough brown ones most Central American women have; they do some serious tanning down there!