Porker and I had visited TVO in Monterrey several months ago, and we were absolutely astounded at the continuous line-up of real beauties that were paraded before us one Friday night last November, one stunner after another.

Well, I had been meaning to return to TVO again since that night, just to see if what we had experienced was a fluke. So, last Friday night, I had the opportunity to revisit, and was not impressed what-so-ever.

Most of the girls I saw on the line-up were just average, or below average. I have no idea what happened to all the superstars.

It was also really interesting too because I noticed there was a girl that was on stage during the line-up that was suggestively dressed, but fully clothed. She was hanging really close to another girl, a girl that was obviously a professional stripper, a girl that was hanging out in all the right places, obviously with very little modesty. But, the modest girl was, in fact, the best looking girl in the place, even fully dressed.

But, I noticed that the girl that was fully clothed and suggestively dressed was modestly playing at unzipping her dress. She would start to unzip it, then before going too far, she would zip it right back up. Then, she would pull up her outfit slightly above her ass cheeks, in a slow and cautious way, almost in a contemplative and reluctant manner. Her behavior was so uncharacteristic to what I am used to seeing in the strip clubs of MTY, that I concluded that she must be a complete and total newbie. Once I determined that she must be a newbie, I watched with even more determination.

Anyway, during the line-up, she flirted with exposing her breasts, and pealing off her outfit. But, she never actually did it. Instead, she remained fully clothed during the entire line-up period, staying very close to her experienced companion the entire time.

Eventually, after the line-up concluded, the girl came on stage alone. She started to dance around the pole in an unfamiliar manner, obviously testing her ability to negotiate the pole, and playing with dance moves, deciding what might look suggestive and sexy. She was obviously very uncomfortable, and to a seasoned officianado like myself, I had by then concluded that she was most certainly a complete and utter newbie stripper.

Eventually, my suspicions were confirmed. All of a sudden, prior to removing a stitch of clothing, she bounded off stage, made a B-line for the dressing room, and immeidately slipped on her blue jeans. She was obviously un-nerved, and talking to one of two of the other girls. I can only imagine she was saying how she was just not cut out for being a stripper. Once she had her jeans on, she was quickly out the door, never to be seen again.

So, I suppose we should all appreciate the obvious difficulties that some girls must go through to eventually become so proficient at entertaining us. For some, it must be harder than for others. But, after seeing that little display, I had a new found appreciation for the girls that can pull it off, and make everything seem so effortless. Thank God for them!!!

Can you tell us something about TVO? Where it's located, price, scene, etc?

TVO is located about 3-4 blocks South of Madero on Zaragoza in downtown Monterrey. The following prices are general because I haven't frequented TVO very much in the last three years. But, the cost should be relatively accurate, and can even be generally applied to most of the middle tier clubs in Monterrey.

At certain times, the girls participate in a "Presentation." The Presentation is where all the girls in the bar get up on stage, displaying themselves to the clientelle with the ultimate intention of being selected for fecha drinks, table dances in an upstairs semi-private room, and/or for extra favors performed in a totally private room.

At TVO, the guys can offer to buy the girls a "jarra," which is a pitcher of beer or wine, or they can buy them individual drinks as well. The "jarras" usually run about 350 pesos, under $35US.

The jarra is the best deal, but you can also choose to buy them individual drinks, which run about 100 pesos (under $10US). You usually get more for your money with a jarra because it takes longer for them to consume the pitcher versus individual drinks.

Once you purchase a jarra or individual drink you are then permitted to drink with them in the main part of the bar, in view of the main stage, or you can retire to a shared semi-private cushy area upstairs called the Privados.

In the Privados, the girls usually sit on your lap, or next to you, on plush chairs or couches. During which time you can grope them, smooch, talk, drink, etc...but, not much else.

It is fun, but I have grown-out of this particular indulgence, and usually just choose to bar fine pretty girls in the lower end clubs. So, I haven't really bought a jarra in a long time. But, I am well acquainted with the purchase of jarras, as it was certainly an intregal part of my initiation when I first discovered Monterrey.

The privado lap dance area is more private and cushy than the main stage area, and you can take more liberties with the girls there than downstairs near the main stage. Plus, it's a much quieter environment in the upstairs privados where you can drink and converse with the girls without having to contend with the blasting music nearer to the main stage. Then, if you choose, you can pay the relatively expensive price of a totally private session with them.

Lap dances in the "privados" cost 100 pesos (under $10US). Of course, a semi-private dance usually includes lap dancing, along with as much groping, tit sucking, fingering, and smooching as you want. Various favors are also up-sold in the privados, favors that cost in addition to the lap dance session.

If you choose the up-sell service, then you move from the privados to a totally private area where the girls provide full service that is timed, usually between a half hour to forty five minutes. I'm not sure of the specific timing with respect to TVO's policy, but it is somewhere in that vicinity.

The add-ons range anywhere from about $25US for a covered blow job to as much as $45-$80US for full service depending on the girl and the range of favors. You can also bar fine a girl from TVO, but the cost is quite a bit more expensive than the clubs I routinely pull from.

The cost to bar fine from TVO is around 2000 pesos (under $200US), whereas I usually pay closer to 1350 pesos (under $135US) from the lower end clubs, and that's for girls that are just as young and attractive as the girls that are routinely available in the medium level clubs like TVO.

So, with respect to bar fining girls, I generally refrain from buying jarras, and reserve my expenditures for the lower end clubs where I can get equal quality, and more time with the girls on my own turf for less money. However, if I do visit a medium or upper level club, it is usually with the intention of socializing with my trip buddies and not necessarily with the intention of bar fining a girl.

However, there is sometimes a potential payoff to cultivating relationships with girls in the medium and upper level clubs. If you buy them drinks, you can sometimes arrange for outcall services, usually for about 800-1200 pesos for between 2-4 hours. But, generally, you will have to buy them a number of drinks over several seperate individual visits in order to establish your credibility with them, which can cost a few pesos over time.

So, I generally prefer to stick to the lower end clubs where I can spend less, bar fine the relative same quality, while also doing so at a price that is similiar to what you might pay if you were to arrange an outcall session with a bar girl from one of the medium or upper level clubs.

(Message edited by Unspongebob on April 02, 2006)