ME
Some background on myself, presented only to help you put some of my comments into perspective. I travel a lot for work. I prefer upscale hotels with good service. Hotel location is also important to me. I consider myself an average looking white American man with a very athletic build. I am in my early 30īs, personable, easy-going, and I speak only marginal spanish. I am not a bargain hunter, that is, I don`t mind paying a little more for something I really want. However, I donīt like being ripped off. One other comment, I prefer the strip clubs over massage places in general. Gives me more time to look around and lock in on a hot chica.


MY GAME
Again, this is offered as reference, your results may vary. I usually tell the girls I am single, no children, wife passed away in a car accident 3 years ago. I think this is a good line, if you are married or single, you figure out why it works. Also, I tell them I am in town for business for the entire week, and I may have a free day or night later in the week, maybe we can do dinner. Again, does not matter what the real story is. For whatever reason, this all seems to work well. On this trip, I got a phone number from every single girl I asked (9 in total). Finally, I tend to dress fairly well. Smart business casual, well groomed, cologne, sometimes shirt and tie. Again, not sure is this helps getting the digits, but I saw some Americans in these places with flip flops, fanny belts, and obnoxious tshirts, and I wondered what self respecting whore would want to be seen with them.

THE GIRLS IN PANAMA
To stereotype a bit. Over 90 percent are from Colombia, in Panama for one year on a visa. Over 90 percent of them have a child back in Colombia and are very forthcoming with this info. These percentages seem high, but they are not exagerrations. Ask any girl at any club how many of the girls are not colombian. You will get answers like 1,2,3, or 4. Approximately 25 percent are silicone enhanced, with approximately 10-15 percent also getting braces work done while in Panama. Finally, almost all of them seemed happy to pose for photos, if they could see the photos after you snapped them. This may take a little doing, especially if you have photos of 6 other chicas on your camera. Anyway, I have a super small camera with a weak flash. The result is poor photo quality, but the camera fits well in my front pocket.

PHOTOS POSTED LAST WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MODERATORS WILL CHOOSE TO INCORPORATE THEM FOR YOU BELOW.

AIRPORT
Immigration was incredibly fast, even though I had to go through the line twice because I forgot to pickup the 5 USD tourist card at the front of the line. Airport to hotel was 20 minutes, 27 dollars (25 USD plus 2 USD toll, so I was told). This is the first time in the trip I felt like I was being ripped off. As we pulled up to the hotel, the driver said "now for the big tip". I gave him no tip, because I felt like he had already taken me for the extra 2 USD he said he needed to pay toll across the bridge. Two dollars is nothing to me, but I hate being ripped off.

HOTEL
I chose the brand new (opened Nov 05) Veneto Hotel and Casino. It billed itself as a 5 star hotel, although this certainly was not the case. Definitely nice and clean, but not 5 star. Service was so-so, but everything was brand new. Within one square block of the hotel were three casinos, several internet cafes, a few really good, cheap restaurants (Manolos, Nik Greek), as well as all the American chains (McD, Subway, KFC, Dunkin D, etc). I would definitely choose the area again, but I think I would choose the El Panama Hotel next door to the Veneto, after I scouted the area a bit. The pool area at El Panama was sweet.

TAXI
They will take you fo whatever they think they can get. Cab rides to all of the locations I visited were 5-10 minutes. On the low end, the honest guys charge 2 USD. On the high end, they want 5 USD from the rich gringo. Fix the price before you get in the cab. Very simple technique. Also, they will wait for you outside a place like Golden Time for no charge. Not a bad deal.

CLUB MIAMI
I would rate this place average. Girls dress in all white lingerie. Total for incall service in a small back room with a small toilet, shower, bed was $139 including 5 beers for me and two drinks for the chica. Fixed price, no hassles. Talent on an early in the week weeknight was decent, 5 to 7 range, with more 5īs than anything else. Girls were aggressive, but, as typical in these places, after you get rid of the third girl that sits down with you, the rest get the hint and wait to be invited over. I settled on a cute little chica from Colombia (of course). Very spirited, standard latin american whore routine (SLAWR) to start off, which is what I like, and I let all the girls do it, rub her titties all over me, CBJ, mount me, ride me, try to make me cum that way. If that doesnīt work, and it doesn't usually make me cum if I have already fucked a couple chicas this trip, they switch to doggie, which is my preferred position. Of course they are open to your needs, but it is interesting how they all go through the same routine. All in all, not a bad start to the trip. Also, this was my first stop of the night. She was really sweet and wanted to cuddle after we were done.

GOLDEN TIME
Phenomenal place. What they say is true. This place has the hottest girls (by far). Girls where outfits of their choice, although something I saw made me think they may be going to standard uniforms (like the other places in panama) in the near future, email me for details. The price of 94 USD all inclusive cannot be beat, fixed price, no hassles. When you start getting quotes of 350 USD for takeout at a strip club, you start doing the math really fast: I can get 3 chicas who are just as hot for that price at GT. It starts to mess you up to go anywhere else. Anyway, I sat down in a waiting room, asked for a cerveza, pulled out my pen and paper, and 30 to 40 girls paraded in wearing numbers. I scribbled down 5 numbers, and asked to see those girls again. Settled on my Colombiana of choice, and she came in to chat with me while I enjoyed my beer. Next, I was asked to pay up front at the reception desk, and she then led me up to a nice room, shower, bed, no toilet. SLAWR followed. She was phenomenal, too. Got the digits and crashed for the night. Hey, long day, landed at 8pm, stopped here and Miami Club, then hit restaurant bar for a burger before sleep at 2am.

CARRIBEAN CENTER
Girls dress all in blue. Only 8 girls working 730pm on a weeknight. Range of 5 to 6. Not impressive at all. But I was there and had some time to kill. Went to a back room with my Colombiana of choice, and the bargaining started. She started with 100 USD, I countered with 40 USD, we went back and forth. She would not budge from 80 USD, all inclusive, she even "called the front desk" supposedly. I went with it. Poor session all in all. She must have been trying to set a speed record. Although, at the end, she warmed up to me, gave me her phone number, asked me my later week plans, etc.

ELITE
Beers were 6 USD. Opens at 8pm, I got there around that time. But girls do not go on stage until 930pm or so, and girls continued to roll in at 11pm, when I left. Lap dances are 3 for 50 USD. Lots of girls in the place, easily 40 or more, range 5 to 8. The uniform here is a nice tight white sailor type thing, but only after they make there first set on the stage. Had some beers, got a lap dance (20 USD), got her digits. No plans to follow up with her, just wanted to see if I could get them. OK stage shows. Girls dance two song sets as the main performer, but stay on stage for 6 songs, so if you stay there a couple hours, you get to see most of the talent in the light of the stage, which is a plus.

LE PALACE
There were maybe 40 girls in the place, 5 to 8 range. Stage show was really horrific, the girls looked like they were miserable performing pre-choreographed numbers, as someone else on this site noted. I was drinking whiskey here, and not sure of the price. I also started buying drinks for a chica early on, and the total bar fine came to 160 USD including my drinks and hers, when I took her back to my hotel later. She quoted 250 USD for take out, which you can also charge on your credit card, but we worked out a deal for 100 USD cash. Still, pricey compared to GT, but I figured what the hell, and she was a real sweety, actually my favorita for the trip, a cute little blonde shakira look a like, and the best in bed for sure. A few other notes. She told me the owner was French. And the girls could only drink brandy and champagne, nothing else. Also, no smoking for the girls, which I though was interesting after the fact, because I saw so many girls stealing drags off of the customers in the club. Anyway, the chica I took back to the hotel was a real GFE, and of course we made plans for later in the week.

OASIS MASSAGE
Stay away from this place. Run away. Run away screaming. I have nothing good to say. I was there late afternoon, 4pm. Selection of 6 girls in the 4 to 6 range. Internet says 65 USD all inclusive. Once back in the back room, I was told 70 USD HJ, 90 USD CBJ, 110 USD sexo. She would not budge. I almost walked out, but settled on 70 USD HJ. The Massage was over in less than five minutes before she turned my over to jack me off, and she was horrible at it. She tired out quickly and made me help, nonetheless. The other thing here was no showers, and the bed used for the massage had this nasty green comforter to lay on, which looked like it was last cleaned around the same time Carter handed the canal back to Panama. All in all very bad.

CRISTAL MOON
New place. Open less than one year. Very nice inside. Owner is supposedly from Las Vegas. UI got there around 8pm, mistake again, and the manager gave me a tour of the entire place, really nice guy. All you can drink 20 USD. Lap dances 20 USD. Web site www.cristalmoon.com, but I didnīt see any of the girls shown on the site. Talent was poor, with 2 hotties in the 7 range and another 15 girls in the 5 to 6 range. Place opened at 8pm, but nothing got going until after 9pm. I got one lap dance from an actual Panamanian girl, got her digits, and left.

GOLDEN TIME
Back to old faithful the same night as Oasis and Cristal Moon. Ended up parading the same 5 girls I asked for last time, and settled on a different one. It was a little awkward to say the least, walking in there past the first chica of the trip only three nights later. This new girl was damn hot, an overall good experience, SLAWR, which was fine with me. Funny story, though, she called her bambino from her cell while I was on my back getting a massage. VERY STRANGE...............

Heading back in July for business..........

Nice report, Thanks. A few comments on costs for the benefit of posterity -- you were quoted about 2X the going rate at Oasis. Miami charges about $90 for a trip to the back room, and Golden Time costs $84, I think, if you don't come in a cab (or get the cab to drop you off nearby). In Le Palace and Elite a lot of people will arrange something with the girl for after work or for the next day to avoid the outrageous barfines. At Elite, you need to be very careful, because management will fire her if she's caught freelancing. And if she's a Colombiana that could be a big problem. In LePalace, managment doesn't seem to care -- I've had women there ask the waiter for a flashlight and a pen.

The girls I saw at LePalace on a very slow Monday night were gorgeous. They line up, all in very sexy white lingerie, while slowly dancing. This is the best view of the girls in order to chose if predetermined to take one out. The bar fine is 136 USD. The drinks are also costly. The stage show, appearing every 5-10 minutes was cabaret style to Broadway's Chicago show. The dancers are very sexy and get naked at the end of the pieces. Overall a fantastic place but at an American tourist price.

thinking of making a trip to panama and cosa rica at the same time. ive been to costa rica twice and thorughly enjoyed myself. also been to rio several times and it is my favorite. reading the post it seems like panama is slowing down, do you recommend making the duo trip or should i look into maybe the dr.

Mrveen -

Nice report.

You are a guy who doesnīt mind paying a little more for something you really want. Me too, but I discipline myself when down-range to ensure I carry the correct (non-verbal) message.

First-time visitors to Latin America countries incorrectly think that what impresses the ladies in the US will impress the ladies down-range. Though anybody with a steady paycheck impresses all ladies North and South of the border...there are big differences between the two cultures.

All men in Panama, regardless if you are a local or a gringo, fall into just a few categories...whimps, more dollars than sense, tight wads, and real machismo men...I suppose there may be other categories, but you catch my drift. When in Panama or other Latin American and South America countries, you should strive to attain the right level of machismo...too little and you will be thought of as a whimp or fool...too much...then arrogant and undesireable. But, if just right...you are worthy of respect...then a chica in Panama or other Latin and South America countries will gladly fuck you harder and longer...because she respects you for being a man...she desires to fuck a strong man because that is a quality she looks for in a potential mate...a man who will provide for and protect her and her babies.

When I haggle in Panama I look the chica in her eyes and I tell her I know what the price is...Iīve been here many times before...$20 at the door and $40 for the fuck is very fair...take it or bring me the chica who was sitting to your right.

Iīve never...never had a chica walk-out...they would lose too much face...lose face...lose respect...and it is a long climb back to the top.

Another thought...when newbies, whimps and big spenders pay inflated prices, you literally ruin it for the rest of us. So you guys with more dollars than sense...think a little bit before you throw the cash down thinking you are impressing these women as if they are gringas...you are polluting their minds...you are converting them into gringas...we gringos monger outside the US to get away from the stereotypical white/black gringa in the US.

GT, Royal Eleg Cntr, Club Miami charge higher prices...but more gringos go to these places than do the locals...hence, gringo inflation.


AJ